CAG League Sports: Madden 12 "JV League" - We Finished 3 Seasons! Thanks Everybody!!!

Saints - 31
Jaguars - 21

Avenging their loss from last season, New Orleans pushed its winning streak to 6 games. Big plays were the story of the day for the Saints, as after trading defensive stops, Tracy Porter picked off Blaine Gabbert in the endzone and returned it 101 yards to draw first blood. After another interception, the Saints got a field goal to go up 10-0. New Orleans stopped a big 3rd and 1, forcing the Jaguars to punt. On the next play, Darren Sproles broke off a 55 yard TD run to give the Saints a commanding 17-0 lead.

Jacksonville would not go quietly though, as they scored their first TD before the half ended to draw within 17-7. They wanted more though, as they attempted a surprise onside kick and recovered it with 0:49 to play. I was surprised by this, and I paused the game to see if I could challenge it on the grounds being totally lame, lol. No, with a 17-7 score with an entire half left to play, I don't know...I'd say it's borderline. Game isn't really out of reach there, so I don't know how many coaches would have tried for it. Nothing came of it though as the Jags ended up punting it away anyway.

In the 2nd half, the offenses came alive. On the very first play, Brees found Marques Colston streaking across the middle, which resulted in an 80 yard catch and run TD. The Jaguars answered right back, as Gabbert started to settle into the passing game, to pull within 24-14. After forcing a 3 and out, the momentum seemed to be shifting, until Gabbert was picked off again, this time by Patrick Robinson who returned it 39 yards down the to Jacksonville 20. Two plays later, the Saints scored again, going up 31-14 as the 3rd quarter expired.

In the 4th quarter, the Jags fought valiantly, but New Orleans was able to limit their offense to only one more score, wrapping up the game with one final interception, this time by Malcolm Jenkins (the 4th different Saints DB with an INT), who returned it 33 yards.

Saints
Drew Brees - 5-5, 127 yards, 1 TD
Darren Sproles - 9 att, 64 yds, 1 TD, 1 rec, 9 yds
Pierre Thomas - 2 att, 7 yds, 1 TD
Jimmy Graham - 3 rec, 38 yds
Marques Colston - 1 rec, 80 yds, 1 TD
Roman Harper - 6 tackles, 1 INT
Malcolm Jenkins - 5 tackles, 1 INT
Tracy Porter - 2 tackles, 1 INT, 1 TD

Jaguars
Blaine Gabbert - 22-37, 322 yds, 3 TDs, 4 INTs
Maurice Jones-Drew - 12 att, 55 yds, 4 rec, 32 yds, 1 TD
Mercedes Lewis - 8 rec, 121 yds
Mike Thomas - 4 rec, 85 yds, 1 TD
Jason Hill - 3 rec, 38 yds, 1 TD
Dextrell Wallace - 2 rec, 37 yds
Clint Session - 4 tackles, 1 sack
 
[quote name='KasterDB']It's okay, you lost to the other one ;)[/QUOTE]

Quiet, you.

[quote name='Yanksfan']Uh oh, now pitfall is gonna beat me with the hose later tonight. :([/QUOTE]

:rofl: I got a good deep belly laugh from this. I did just take my frustrations out during my game for the other league 42-14. I actually had to let up early in the 3rd quarter because I didn't want to play like a total dick, so I'll be calmed down when we play. Plus the Redskins suck, so you got that going for you.

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The onside kick was a mistake. Like I said, I was kind of panicking because it has been a long time since I've been dominated like that. It wasn't totally wrong, but you're right. It was lame.
 
I believe cambell is the owner of the vikings im avaliable tonight till around ten pm watching tin tin with the kids and then mon-fri anytime after 7 when i get home from work .
 
[quote name='n8rockerasu']One can only hope. ;)[/QUOTE]

It did happen..Pitfall outplayed me considering he was playing with an inferior team for the first time. The win column doesn't care though, but it certainly wasn't the better player that won today. I've lost games against him where I felt I played better. Ryan wasn't as accurate as normal and I wasn't making up for it. Pitfall had a huge 2nd quarter of big plays..considering how limited Washington is for playmakers, I was in awe of what he did with a few of them.

The game did have a pretty dramatic ending though. After an INT for the Falcons trailing by 4 points with 4 minutes to go at the 50, the Falcons were able to milk the clock down and drive slowly down. With 1 timeout left, I was stopped at the 1 yard line with about 12-13 seconds..I decided to try to hurry up and run a play and hope I could get a TO off if I failed. With 1 second left, Turner absorbed a big hit and somehow fell in the endzone for the game winning TD. If he had gone down short of the goalline, I do not know if I could have called that TO fast enough. Epic finish Pitfall, gg and thanks for helping out with the sub.

ATL - 24
WAS - 21
 
Well, I'm 0-2 against the NFC South this week. I guess it's time to stop the shit-talking. Unless I hand the Panthers their first loss tomorrow.

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That was a fun game. Redskins aren't as bad as I initially thought. Roy Helu would look fantastic in the Green & Gold. Someone take them as their primary and trade him to me. LOL.

Sorry, n8. I tried.
 
Week 7 Summary

Power Rankings
1. Indianapolis Colts
2. Dallas Cowboys
3. Green Bay Packers
4. Carolina Panthers
5. Kansas City Chiefs

Offensive Player of the Week
Adrian Peterson, MIN - 27 att, 293 yds, 4 TDs

Defensive Player of the Week
TJ Ward, CLE - 8 tackles, 1 INT, 1 FF
 
[quote name='pitfallharry219']

Sorry, n8. I tried.[/QUOTE]

Haha, it's all right. I'm still ahead of him. It just means I can't let up either. It really does feel like I'm playing NCAA where one loss, one play could screw up my entire season. Do you hear that Tanabeo, Yanksfan, and Kaster (even though TB isn't your primary...I don't care, lol). ONE mistake could ruin your entire season. Think about that as you lay your head down on your pillow tonight. OOOOOOooooohhhhh!!!
 
[quote name='n8rockerasu']Haha, it's all right. I'm still ahead of him. It just means I can't let up either. It really does feel like I'm playing NCAA where one loss, one play could screw up my entire season. Do you hear that Tanabeo, Yanksfan, and Kaster (even though TB isn't your primary...I don't care, lol). ONE mistake could ruin your entire season. Think about that as you lay your head down on your pillow tonight. OOOOOOooooohhhhh!!![/QUOTE]

Well, I'm like 1-6 with Denver, so Tampa is all I got.
 
Damn...my game with staticz dropped with me down 21-16, but just getting the ball back in the 3rd quarter. I hate when that shit happens cause I feel like the do-over games are always tainted somehow. Though honestly, I was catching some shitty breaks in this game. His defensive players = lunging, twisting, and snatching deflected balls (much like Lindsay Lohan in that way). My defensive players = "What...wait...there's a ball coming at my head? Huh where? Ow!" (much like Lindsay Lohan in that way), lol.
 
[quote name='n8rockerasu']Damn...my game with staticz dropped with me down 21-16, but just getting the ball back in the 3rd quarter. I hate when that shit happens cause I feel like the do-over games are always tainted somehow. Though honestly, I was catching some shitty breaks in this game. His defensive players = lunging, twisting, and snatching deflected balls (much like Lindsay Lohan in that way). My defensive players = "What...wait...there's a ball coming at my head? Huh where? Ow!" (much like Lindsay Lohan in that way), lol.[/QUOTE]

Do over games suck. My gameplan has been exposed and therefore points are a lot harder to come by. Ah well.
 
well guys i leave tommrow the 20th until the 28th. if plans change again u will be sure to know but im not counting on it for any cowboys games please contact statciz for he will be taking over the team while im gone
 
I just rage quit against Tanabeo because I got sick and fucking tired of Devine taking the handoff and running backwards towards the sideline to cheaply outsmart the shitty AI. It's bullshit and cheap and I'm not going to waste any more of my time playing against a bitch who constantly pulls that shit.
 
[quote name='pitfallharry219']I just rage quit against Tanabeo because I got sick and fucking tired of Devine taking the handoff and running backwards towards the sideline to cheaply outsmart the shitty AI. It's bullshit and cheap and I'm not going to waste any more of my time playing against a bitch who constantly pulls that shit.[/QUOTE]

Sorry you feel that way I run to the side to outrun the D if you dont blitz your CB or LB off the edge of course im going to get around him. You didnt bitch when you were stopping me for a lost of yards
 
I'll weigh in since I just played Tanabeo myself in the other league.. Assuming the "running backwards" thing is the same thing he was doing against me - basically running laterally in the backfield after the snap before trying to cut up field - I didn't find it especially cheap. It was definitely stupid and ineffective (no offense Tanabeo) since I stuffed it every single time, but I didn't think it gave him any advantage or gamed the AI in any way.
 
Hey Nate, I'll promote you back once I wake up tomorrow, if that's cool. But since it's 4 AM and I'm on spring break, expect it to be early afternoon sometime :)
 
Still waiting for a reply from the vikings owner. Message him on xbox and posted in the forum. Anyone know him or can i get a sub tonight. Oh an its is cheasy as hell to pull the techmo bowl runs. It to bad people have to abuse the game. Its easy u run three time outside so the whole defense gets tired from chasing and boom, now u basically can do what u want on offense. Yeah it can be stopped but it takes the front line ,lbs,and ur secondary giving up three recievers for some reason. Sooo it is there its a known problem, and it is cheap. Can you do anything about it no, just plant in your mind that whoever uses this exploit, than yeah they must be trash to use a glitch ,why else would they use it every first and second down. So best thing to do is play your game the right way, and just let the spineless trash get there wins cause thats all they care.
 
[quote name='N3XTLVL']Still waiting for a reply from the vikings owner. Message him on xbox and posted in the forum. Anyone know him or can i get a sub tonight. Oh an its is cheasy as hell to pull the techmo bowl runs. It to bad people have to abuse the game. Its easy u run three time outside so the whole defense gets tired from chasing and boom, now u basically can do what u want on offense. Yeah it can be stopped but it takes the front line ,lbs,and ur secondary giving up three recievers for some reason. Sooo it is there its a known problem, and it is cheap. Can you do anything about it no, just plant in your mind that whoever uses this exploit, than yeah they must be trash to use a glitch ,why else would they use it every first and second down. So best thing to do is play your game the right way, and just let the spineless trash get there wins cause thats all they care.[/QUOTE]

It's Campbell. Did you message him on here? The reason I ask is because he would get an email advising he has a pm? He has it set up to shoot an email to his phone every time he gets a a PM. No disrespect and I know you tried but the standard is messaging someone from CAG because of the email notification. Like me he works all day and barely checks the forum and I rarely notice messages on XBL because I mostly only get on to play for the league.

Just my opinions though man. I'll text him and let him know to look out. Can you quote the message you posted in here so we can see? I don't recall seeing it in the last few days?
 
I'm on my phone so it's not easy to find for me but he did post in here right away. I agree though, PMs are the best way to communicate, even for those that do check the thread, it can easy to miss a post.
 
[quote name='N3XTLVL']Still waiting for a reply from the vikings owner. Message him on xbox and posted in the forum. Anyone know him or can i get a sub tonight. Oh an its is cheasy as hell to pull the techmo bowl runs.[/QUOTE]

Hey man sorry I must have missed your post in here. When do you wanna play? I agree with those who posted after you that a PM on here is probably the best way to reach me because it alerts me via email which I check quite often. I can only check the thread a couple times a day, so I am liable to miss a couple of posts.

I am free tonight. If you want to play.
Thanks,
 
[quote name='bvharris']I'll weigh in since I just played Tanabeo myself in the other league.. Assuming the "running backwards" thing is the same thing he was doing against me - basically running laterally in the backfield after the snap before trying to cut up field - I didn't find it especially cheap. It was definitely stupid and ineffective (no offense Tanabeo) since I stuffed it every single time, but I didn't think it gave him any advantage or gamed the AI in any way.[/QUOTE]

The thing we've tried to establish in here, BV, is helping people learn how to stop it. Just saying "Oh, it's easy to stop" is lame and doesn't help anybody grow as a player. If you're not going to give specific advice on how to stop it, your comment doesn't serve much of purpose (no offense, but it's true). I feel like I've greatly improved my run defense since this game came out, but it's from learning to use different blitz packages. Blitzing corners, blitzing safeties, shifting my LB's, etc.

But it is without question a "Maddenism". It's a play that goes for a much bigger gain than it would in real life because the AI takes horrible individual angles and doesn't work together at all to force people out of bounds. Couple that with the speed boost you get when you get to the outside, and you're gone. So, instead of giving up 20 yards, they let it go for 80 and a TD. It's a play just like the HB screen or the 5 wide QB scramble. If YOU don't make the right defensive adjustments, your AI will take a shit angle and let people just walk right by. It's part of the defense in Madden 12 being programmed like a piece of shit.

This is the reason, to counter that, I encourage exposing people who abuse one or two plays and giving tips on how to shut them down. There should be no play that people can use over and over again and have it be successful. If you can't win a game by mixing up your play calls and outthinking your opponent, you don't deserve to win.

This is why NO ONE should be worried about "giving up their secrets" (which, I have to say...is an impression I've gotten from a lot of people in the official league). I might intentionally show you the same look on offense 4-5 times in a row and let you get comfortable with it, then use that same formation to bust off a big pass play. THAT'S football. Not running the same garbage screens and pitches all game. So, rather than chastizing people for not knowing how to stop cheesy plays, why not help them? I (and I'm sure everybody else) would love to hear what you did that was so effective in stopping those runs to the outside.

[quote name='KasterDB']Hey Nate, I'll promote you back once I wake up tomorrow, if that's cool. But since it's 4 AM and I'm on spring break, expect it to be early afternoon sometime :)[/QUOTE]

You might as well wait on that. staticz and I didn't have time to replay our dropped game, so I guess we're going to try again today.

[quote name='campbellbj1']Hey man sorry I must have missed your post in here. When do you wanna play? I agree with those who posted after you that a PM on here is probably the best way to reach me because it alerts me via email which I check quite often. I can only check the thread a couple times a day, so I am liable to miss a couple of posts.

I am free tonight. If you want to play.
Thanks,[/QUOTE]

While I do agree that PM's are a better means for getting in touch with somebody, we can't pretend that checking in with this thread isn't important. Furthermore, the Vikings are your primary team. You should be contacting him too. He posted in here and sent you a message on XBL. That still seems like more than you did.
 
Patriots Vs. Giants should be played tonight.

Superstar said he was moving when we pm'ed on Sunday, but we set the game for tonight.
 
I will add this on too, I've already received a PM earlier this season about Tanabeo's dominance and the possibility of "graduating" him out of this league if it continues. I know that was something we talked about when this league first started, but honestly, at this point, I'd have a hard time deciding who should be "graduated" and who shouldn't be (especially since we have so many players in both leagues now anyway...which honestly, makes me question what we're even accomplishing with this league). I'd much rather tell people specific plays that will stop "cheese" and make the "good players" adjust their game...which in theory, they should be able to do if it's more than a gimmick.

The most questionable thing about it is that pitfallharry has the #1 defense against the rush in the league (it looks like Bengals are #2 and my Saints are #3 and my Dolphins are #4). So, he should know some pretty good play calls to stop the run...unless of course, Tanabeo is the only one using the run "laterally" (it's backward, come on) to break to the outside trick. I still say it's a gimmick, and I know it can be stopped. Just surprised that with that run defense, pitfallharry couldn't do it.

Anyway, in the spirit of helping and learning, here are some plays I use that seem to be effective against the run.

3-4, Edge Sting (shifting your LB's to the side you think the run is going to often gives a huge payoff)
SS Snake 3
CB Dog
 
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[quote name='n8rockerasu']The thing we've tried to establish in here, BV, is helping people learn how to stop it. Just saying "Oh, it's easy to stop" is lame and doesn't help anybody grow as a player. If you're not going to give specific advice on how to stop it, your comment doesn't serve much of purpose (no offense, but it's true). I feel like I've greatly improved my run defense since this game came out, but it's from learning to use different blitz packages. Blitzing corners, blitzing safeties, shifting my LB's, etc.

But it is without question a "Maddenism". It's a play that goes for a much bigger gain than it would in real life because the AI takes horrible individual angles and doesn't work together at all to force people out of bounds. Couple that with the speed boost you get when you get to the outside, and you're gone. So, instead of giving up 20 yards, they let it go for 80 and a TD. It's a play just like the HB screen or the 5 wide QB scramble. If YOU don't make the right defensive adjustments, your AI will take a shit angle and let people just walk right by. It's part of the defense in Madden 12 being programmed like a piece of shit.

This is the reason, to counter that, I encourage exposing people who abuse one or two plays and giving tips on how to shut them down. There should be no play that people can use over and over again and have it be successful. If you can't win a game by mixing up your play calls and outthinking your opponent, you don't deserve to win.

This is why NO ONE should be worried about "giving up their secrets" (which, I have to say...is an impression I've gotten from a lot of people in the official league). I might intentionally show you the same look on offense 4-5 times in a row and let you get comfortable with it, then use that same formation to bust off a big pass play. THAT'S football. Not running the same garbage screens and pitches all game. So, rather than chastizing people for not knowing how to stop cheesy plays, why not help them? I (and I'm sure everybody else) would love to hear what you did that was so effective in stopping those runs to the outside.
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I certainly didn't intend for it to come across as "I can stop it, so why can't you?" Sorry if that was the impression you got, I know I don't usually post in here but I was really just commenting on my impression of Tanabeo's plays, not on pitfall's inability to stop them. Maybe the best solution is for me to just keep my nose out of things in here, but since you occasionally offer your opinion in the other league, I figured I'd be okay to do so here as well.

As for stopping outside runs, I'd be happy to help. I think a lot of it comes down to what players you control on defense. Most of the players in the other league who are especially good at stopping the run tend to user their linebackers and work on reading and reacting to pitches to the outside. Now that's not a universal factor for people who are good at run stopping, but I know it works well for me.

If you think about the pitch to the outside, what they're really hoping to accomplish is getting your D to overcommit so they can cut back inside of it. At least in the initial part of the run they're not relying on their blockers at all, so if you concentrate on getting at least one defender into the backfield, it allows you to chase down the back much more easily. I know I'm making that sound easier than it is (and this is one of the reasons people put such a high premium on fast linebackers) but with enough practice it's really not hard to chase HBs down when they're isolated in the backfield, especially when they dance around like Tanabeo does with Devine.

Again, I'm not trying to suggest anything remotely like "it's easy to stop that crap, I don't see how he's successful with it!" If it was easy to stop, he wouldn't have any success with it at all. Just that with practice, it's definitely possible to learn how to defend those plays. I used to be terrible against the run, but I've made stopping it a focus and I've improved on it every season.
 
[quote name='n8rockerasu']I'd much rather tell people specific plays that will stop "cheese" and make the "good players" adjust their game...which in theory, they should be able to do if it's more than a gimmick.[/QUOTE]

Two plays I find very effective against people who run outside can be found in the 4-3 set (I use Multi D, but these should be in every 4-3 book). I know not a lot of people use 4-3, but I find it to be the most effective base defense against the run.

One is just a Cover 1 (this should definitely be in every 4-3 playbook), with the safety running the shallow zone on whichever side the pitch is coming to. Then user whichever linebacker is on either the HB or FB and read/react to the direction of the pitch. This also leaves the SS over the top of the run and in decent position to stop the HB if he gets loose of the initial defensive pressure.

The other is a play which I think is called "free fire" or something along those lines, which blitzes the ROLB and MLB and has both safeties in man coverage. Take control of whichever blitzing linebacker you're more comfortable with and attempt to chase down the back as you would above.

In both plays (and any play where you're worried about outside runs), it also really helps to change the rush directions of one or both defensive ends - by default most plays in Madden have the ends playing an inside technique which leaves them very vulnerable to outside runs. If you audible them to blitzes which are straight ahead, it's much easier for them to shed their blockers on the outside and help in chasing down backs who are running laterally behind the LOS.

There are variations on both plays in the 3-4 playbook as well, though I generally find 4-3 to be more effective since it stays a bit stronger against the inside run. Hope that helps.
 
I don't think Tanabeo is "better" than most people in here. He seems to have gotten a lot better in my opinion, but nothing that would warrant a boot.

I mean, did he even make the playoffs last year? I'd hope just cause I am 2-4 no one is thinking I'm a bad player, and Tanabeo being 6-0 doesn't really make him unstoppable.
 
[quote name='bvharris']I certainly didn't intend for it to come across as "I can stop it, so why can't you?" Sorry if that was the impression you got, I know I don't usually post in here but I was really just commenting on my impression of Tanabeo's plays, not on pitfall's inability to stop them. Maybe the best solution is for me to just keep my nose out of things in here, but since you occasionally offer your opinion in the other league, I figured I'd be okay to do so here as well.[/QUOTE]

No, I appreciate you giving your opinion, and it is welcome here. I just like to address these issues head on beacuse I feel like it's the best way to stop the "witch hunt" immediately. Tanabeo's dominating people with it. Ok, fine. Let's show everybody how to stop it and force him to go to something else.

I don't have one "trick play" that just works all the time. I use the run to set up the pass, and I use the pass to set up the run, and at the end of the game, they're usually about 50/50 for my total offense. I'd rather see the game played like this, but when people can run for 300 yards a game, why would they be anything but one dimensional?

I did the same thing with lyric when he was spamming Steven Jackson a bit last season. It was pretty unpopular at the time, but it made him reevaluate his gameplan and expand his offense. Once that happens, he can go right back to Steven Jackson, lol. It's the variety in your playcalling that should make you effective. Not that people just don't know what play to call to stop you. Are we playing chess or "beat the shit out of the one legged kid?" lol.
 
I didn't run the same two plays over and over hell half the ones I took to the outside were up the middle run plays he had the middle jammed up so I would take it to the edge I was still throwing with cam untill like late in the 3rd and going into the 4th because I didn't want to throw and run up the score its not like I was doing run after run
 
[quote name='Tanabeo']I didn't run the same two plays over and over hell half the ones I took to the outside were up the middle run plays he had the middle jammed up so I would take it to the edge I was still throwing with cam untill like late in the 3rd and going into the 4th because I didn't want to throw and run up the score its not like I was doing run after run[/QUOTE]

That's fine. It's not your responsibility to vary your playcalling. It's his to make you. But it should also be no top secret what your bread and butter is. This is the same point I made with lyric last season. Is it in your best interest to have a wide variety of plays that are effective? Yes. Why? Look at your game with BV, lol. This is more about everybody else improving their defense than it is about you. Don't worry, you're not getting kicked out of the league, haha.

The one thing I will say, is you DO seem to love a gimmick. First it was hot swapping QBs to pass deep one second and scramble the next, then it was the Madden 2004 Vick Cheese, now it's running backward to get to the outside with speed backs. Hell, on top of that, you just got busted for going offside when you were out of timeouts against LVPatriots in the other league. Can you really be that shocked if people start to question your ethics at some point? I don't think you're necessarily malicious...but you're definitely PLAYING Madden, lol.
 
[quote name='n8rockerasu']That's fine. It's not your responsibility to vary your playcalling. It's his to make you. But it should also be no top secret what your bread and butter is. This is the same point I made with lyric last season. Is it in your best interest to have a wide variety of plays that are effective? Yes. Why? Look at your game with BV, lol. This is more about everybody else improving their defense than it is about you. Don't worry, you're not getting kicked out of the league, haha.

The one thing I will say, is you DO seem to love a gimmick. First it was hot swapping QBs to pass deep one second and scramble the next, then it was the Madden 2004 Vick Cheese, now it's running backward to get to the outside with speed backs. Hell, on top of that, you just got busted for going offside when you were out of timeouts against LVPatriots in the other league. Can you really be that shocked if people start to question your ethics at some point? I don't think you're necessarily malicious...but you're definitely PLAYING Madden, lol.[/QUOTE]

Yea but you never see me doing to the unstoppable cheese rank stuff like nanos, speed boost etc I have been subbing QBs for many maddens I did it in last years league but never got called out on it this year I did and I stoped now as for running backwards to get the edge I see RBs do it every sunday I know because I'm always thinking to myself quit running backwards dumbass I know that in real life they dont have bad AI programing for the offside thing your right you can tell I'm definitely playing madden
 
[quote name='Tanabeo']Yea but you never see me doing to the unstoppable cheese rank stuff like nanos, speed boost etc I have been subbing QBs for many maddens I did it in last years league but never got called out on it this year I did and I stoped now as for running backwards to get the edge I see RBs do it every sunday I know because I'm always thinking to myself quit running backwards dumbass I know that in real life they dont have bad AI programing for the offside thing your right you can tell I'm definitely playing madden[/QUOTE]

As I said, I will 100% defend your right to call whatever play you want. Some things may be more cheap than others, but ultimately, there is a counter for everything. I also encourage better, more savvy defense in this league (it's what I've been working toward since I got this game), and I have no qualms exposing any "go to plays" that someone may use. If you can win when people stop those plays, then more power to you. That's the sign of a truly great player. At the end of the day, this is the game EA gave us to play, and we all have to make due with it.

However, the sportsmanship issues, going offside repeatedly, hot swapping a QB, etc. you can leave those tactics for your ranked matches. It shouldn't need explaining why that's not acceptable behavior. If we're sticking to the argument that "you see it every Sunday", then that should apply to all aspects of the game. I think we've covered this issue enough though. Not thrilled with pitfallharry rage quitting, but we've all been there, and he didn't try to deny it. As long as Tanabeo still got the win, I think we're good.
 
[quote name='n8rockerasu']If you can win when people stop those plays, then more power to you. That's the sign of a truly great player.
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My overriding defensive philosophy in Madden has always been to force the other guy to do what they don't want to do. That's definitely true in the NFL (ie, make Tebow beat you through the air) but it's just as applicable in Madden. When I'm playing a guy with a dominant ground game, I always try and force them to beat me with the pass - that's how I play every time against Doomtime, though he usually beats me anyway. :D
 
NEW YORK GIANTS TRADE BLOCK

Trading:

I'm very stacked at CB, LB and D-Line. and I am willing to trade any of them.

Only off limit players are Newcomber, Bradshaw and Nicks.

I am looking SPECIFICALLY for a Center with great O-line attributes.

Also, a beast recieving tight end.

Get at me, very willing to make deals.
 
[quote name='bvharris']My overriding defensive philosophy in Madden has always been to force the other guy to do what they don't want to do. That's definitely true in the NFL (ie, make Tebow beat you through the air) but it's just as applicable in Madden. When I'm playing a guy with a dominant ground game, I always try and force them to beat me with the pass - that's how I play every time against Doomtime, though he usually beats me anyway. :D[/QUOTE]

Wow, something we agree on, haha. That's basically my feeling too. If you're one dimensional, you should lose. But it's still your opponent's job to force you out of your comfort zone. It's the process of growth.

Game 1. Player A runs HB screens all day and beats Player B 42-28.

Game 2. Player B learns how to stuff HB screens, and beats Player A 17-3.

Game 3. Player A learns how to utilize other plays and beats Player B 21-17.

In that sequence, both players got better. That's the kind of growth I started this league for. It's no fun watching people just exploit crap game in and game out. But I can't blame them for sticking with what's working either. I can't just say "stop doing that". But I whole-heartedly encourage people to expose it and figure out how to shut it down. Tanabeo is 7-0 in this league. He should have a target on his back.
 
[quote name='n8rockerasu']Tanabeo is 7-0 in this league. He should have a target on his back.[/QUOTE]

I'm 8-0;)
 
Dolphins - 13
Chiefs - 3

Whew! Glad I got out of there with this one! I started out in control, shutting Jamaal Charles down entirely in the first half. I got scared my good fortune was starting to run out though. The game was a bit laggy for me again, which screwed up a 3rd and goal play before the half ended. I was trying to audible to a pass, and apparently my X press didn't register, but my A press did, so when the ball was snapped, I was just like "OH SHIT!" Then, on a 3rd and 13 in the 3rd quarter, I got a completion that came up inches short. But, at my own 46, I did the right thing and punted.

And again, my defensive backs couldn't catch a ball for shit. Several balls thrown right at them with no one around, and "boing!" right off the hands. Kansas City got things moving in the 2nd half, but I was able to limit them to a field goal, and just use ball control the rest of the way. Reggie Bush didn't have the kind of game he was putting up in our first attempt to play (I think he had two runs of over 50 yards in that one), but he was very solid, scoring the game's only TD on a 45 yard run up the middle. He also got injured twice, but kept coming back for more, lol. GG staticz. Glad we made it through it this time!

Dolphins
Pat Devlin - 6-6, 94 yds
Reggie Bush - 14 att, 125 yds, 1 TD
Brandon Marshall - 3 rec, 59 yds
Yeremiah Bell - 4 tackles, 1 INT

Chiefs
Matt Cassel - 9-22, 157 yds, 0 TDs, 1 INT
Jamaal Charles - 9 att, 30 yds, 2 rec, 14 yds
Tony Moeaki - 4 rec, 60 yds
Dwayne Bowe - 3 rec, 83 yds
Derrick Johnson - 8 tackles, 3 TFL
 
[quote name='staticz']That went as expected. Dolphins hand the Chiefs their second loss.[/QUOTE]

Hey now. You're not being fair to my pessimistic outlook here. I expected you to romp my ass, lol.
 
[quote name='LVPatriots']NEW YORK GIANTS TRADE BLOCK

Trading:

I'm very stacked at CB, LB and D-Line. and I am willing to trade any of them.

Only off limit players are Newcomber, Bradshaw and Nicks.

I am looking SPECIFICALLY for a Center with great O-line attributes.

Also, a beast recieving tight end.

Get at me, very willing to make deals.[/QUOTE]


hmmmmm vick is up for trade . i need lb's and d line .
 
hey if cambell lagged out of our game and he was winning 24-7 ,im still in the game if i quit and count he gets the win right . the game was aganizing long lol so id like to not have to play again lol .
 
Well vikings and eagles game was about three minutes from being over Vikings up 24-7 when my xbox froze as I was ahead I Offered to restart the game but nxtlvl declined and wants the game to count. I'm ok with this as I will get a win but I wanted to make sure the league Knew what was up. what is the process here?
 
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