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[quote name='DVO21']the other mess it would cause is people with little cap space that need to backload offer to be able to get there team rosters back to 53 players or as close as they can get it. unless of course the 53 man roster rule was gone which then we could do the 2 year max offer deal to FA's[/QUOTE]

This upcoming free agency period isn't the only way to fill your team. You have the draft and left over free agents once the preseason starts.
 
[quote name='Konfusion']This upcoming free agency period isn't the only way to fill your team. You have the draft and left over free agents once the preseason starts.[/QUOTE]

i agree completely but theres also that chance that a few teams might be short of 53 by 1 or 2 and i dont see the reason of making it a big deal if the bigger worry is people making outrageous offers in FA in the last season completely backloading to get all big time players. i'm making trades right now to free up cap space. im moving 2 pricey players for picks. so thoughs players will be gone and then i could have 9 picks in the draft and be able to pick up 2 or 3 players in FA and be just fine but its. not really just my team i would be worried about making the 53 man cut theres other teams as well in similar positions as mine maybe not with as many draft picks and possibly worse money situation. with all things considered the 53 man roster just might not work when we can configure our contracts to money going in certain places certain years and have to make the rules fit how the game makes it easier to manage as a whole league. the rule its self was a great idea i think but in the later years and the way EA setup things with the contract it makes things kinda messy with holding people to 53 man roster.
 
[quote name='DVO21']i agree completely but theres also that chance that a few teams might be short of 53 by 1 or 2 and i dont see the reason of making it a big deal if the bigger worry is people making outrageous offers in FA in the last season completely backloading to get all big time players. i'm making trades right now to free up cap space. im moving 2 pricey players for picks. so thoughs players will be gone and then i could have 9 picks in the draft and be able to pick up 2 or 3 players in FA and be just fine but its. not really just my team i would be worried about making the 53 man cut theres other teams as well in similar positions as mine maybe not with as many draft picks and possibly worse money situation. with all things considered the 53 man roster just might not work when we can configure our contracts to money going in certain places certain years and have to make the rules fit how the game makes it easier to manage as a whole league. the rule its self was a great idea i think but in the later years and the way EA setup things with the contract it makes things kinda messy with holding people to 53 man roster.[/QUOTE]

I don't think I fully understand what you are trying to say, but if you can't make competitive deals on a free agent under normal rules, then you can have what is left over in the preseason. If you are that close to the cap, then you need to make potentially difficult roster decisions to fill your team. Teams in situations like yours or worse need to release/trade players or let players go in free agency. This happens every year in real life. A lot of big name guys released or being let go from teams because that is what they have to do. If you are 1 or 2 players short of 53 and have no cap room, then release somebody so you can afford to fill your team. That's why the rule is there.
 
actually in real life the league minimum for a team is 45. and in real life only 45 players on the team suit up in real life as well 53 is the max of the nfl for the official roster and 45 is the minimum.
 
plus most of my starters that are making any money to actually clear space have bonuses so that wouldnt really help make space money wise. and i dont plan on cutting any starters to grab guys that i wouldnt ever play thats just dumb.
 
[quote name='DVO21']actually in real life the league minimum for a team is 45. and in real life only 45 players on suited up in real life as well 53 is the max of the nfl and 45 is the minimum.[/QUOTE]

I'm not arguing with you on that. Real life teams have 53 players for reasons that don't affect us. I was not for the 53 man requirement.
 
[quote name='Konfusion']I'm not arguing with you on that. Real life teams have 53 players for reasons that don't affect us. I was not for the 53 man requirement.[/QUOTE]

i wasnt taking it as an argument was only pointing out the fact and i agree that i they need the 53 for reasons we don't completely. i also never agreed with the rule. i can understand the point of the rule though but i can also see the point of disagreeing with it. which i have obviously choose to not agree with it with u
 
[quote name='DVO21']plus most of my starters that are making any money to actually clear space have bonuses so that wouldnt really help make space money wise. and i dont plan on cutting any starters to grab guys that i wouldnt ever play thats just dumb.[/QUOTE]

All I am saying is that you put yourself in this situation. Rules shouldn't be changed to accomodate people who didn't plan ahead.

I'm pretty sure there are players who will sign for $600K or even less than that. If you can't find the money to sign a couple of those guys, then you aren't trying hard enough.
 
i wouldnt say i didnt plan ahead. when the league started and i took the bengals almost every players money was wrapped in bonuses and had to cut the weight at one point. and with not being able to choose where which years players get paid when not being able to see my teams future cap area years ahead i would say it tough to say where your teams cap space will eventually turnout looking like. i also agree rules shouldnt be changed but that rule also wasnt made till the middle of the season and when players are already signed to contract then being forced to apply to that rule after making contracts isnt quite fair either. by u saying rules shouldnt be changed u would also have to agree rules like that shouldnt just be made after contracts have already been made.

EDIT: i also already said my team will be fine i already have an agreed upon trade thats sending 2 players that dont have bonuses that will free up cap space and thoughs players getting replaced with picks that will cost cheaper. if the trade goes thru then i will have 9 picks and prolly be able to pick up 2 or 3 players and prolly have more than 53 players. but my teams isnt the only one that going to possibly facing problems and i think i can get my team to the 53 mark just fine but like i said before its not just my team im worried about there are others in the league with money issues. my trade has been to sentup for review no sure on the where it is now but im sure theres plenty of time and until we advance i cant really see where my team is at to start really fixing things. but i know there is one team thats -4 million or somewhere around there and i believe another around -2million
 
the selfish part of me would at least like to start free agency before Friday so that we all know exactly whos available (as it will help me and others plan trades accordingly), but the real life part of me says we should wait till Friday to give Nate and the new Rams owner a fair shot. Or at least give them exclusive rights to players on their own teams and not advance past week 1 of FA till theyve both had a chance to get on and make some offers.
 
[quote name='DVO21']
EDIT: i also already said my team will be fine i already have an agreed upon trade thats sending 2 players that dont have bonuses that will free up cap space and thoughs players getting replaced with picks that will cost cheaper. if the trade goes thru then i will have 9 picks and prolly be able to pick up 2 or 3 players and prolly have more than 53 players. but my teams isnt the only one that going to possibly facing problems and i think i can get my team to the 53 mark just fine but like i said before its not just my team im worried about there are others in the league with money issues[/QUOTE]

Anyone who is in cap trouble can make moves like you are trying to make.
 
i would love to get password and search for the league name...that way i can resign and actually get a good grasp on my team as far as money and other things before friday...that way i can be ready to go friday if we choose to wait for n8 to get home. i dont know if i have a say yet but i think waiting till friday would be a good option...it gives me a couple days to make some trades before free agency
 
[quote name='GamerDude316']the selfish part of me would at least like to start free agency before Friday so that we all know exactly whos available (as it will help me and others plan trades accordingly), but the real life part of me says we should wait till Friday to give Nate and the new Rams owner a fair shot. Or at least give them exclusive rights to players on their own teams and not advance past week 1 of FA till theyve both had a chance to get on and make some offers.[/QUOTE]

I don't see why we can't draft this weekend if we use Dark Riders schedule. Give those guys exclusive rights to their own guys and it shouldn't be a problem. We might have to wait 3 weeks to draft if we wait, assuming we want to draft on a Sunday.
 
[quote name='Yo Soy El Tiger']i would love to get password and search for the league name...that way i can resign and actually get a good grasp on my team as far as money and other things before friday...that way i can be ready to go friday if we choose to wait for n8 to get home. i dont know if i have a say yet but i think waiting till friday would be a good option...it gives me a couple days to make some trades before free agency[/QUOTE]

Can't make any trades till Free Agency anyway...

[quote name='Konfusion']I don't see why we can't draft this weekend if we use Dark Riders schedule. Give those guys exclusive rights to their own guys and it shouldn't be a problem. We might have to wait 3 weeks to draft if we wait, assuming we want to draft on a Sunday.[/QUOTE]

I agree, 3 weeks is ridiculous
 
[quote name='perdition(troy']Last time I saw the rams roster I didnt think it was all that bad.[/QUOTE]

Yeah I took a look at it earlier seemed decent. I think Britt is up for FA though
 
My db 's are all below 80...sma bradford is paid way too much and isn't that good in my opinion..steven jqckson is a 91 but I don't run the ball all too much so I would like to down grade there. ..and that's with just a little bit of knowledge of my team
 
[quote name='Dark Rider']I propose that we advance every two days(or so). (Tonight, Wednesday, and Saturday, then draft on Sunday) This would allow all of us to start making bids, and allow Nate some time on Friday/Saturday to make free agent offers before it ends. Very few sign before the last week anyway.

Just a suggestion. Any thoughts?[/QUOTE]

Does anyone have a problem with a plan like this? The alternative could be a 2 week delay with draft on April 7. It would be a minor inconvenience for 2/32 owners to save us potentially 2 weeks of waiting. I don't think that's too much to ask. We could easily come up with a list of Rams/Titans free agents and have them off limits.
 
I don't like the idea. With trades needing to be approved, the new guy needs an invite, free agency needing to be overseen (and to be honest the lengths of the contracts need to be addressed so there aren't incredibly back ended contracts with just one season left in the league) I feel like the patient route at this point is the best route unless Nate feels comfortable doing it another way. The majority of the posts thus far have been of the waiting tone.
 
Am I missing something? Nate comes back Friday, March 22nd. Apply an advance every 2 days and the latest we draft would be the last weekend of March. Why would we have to wait 3 weeks??
 
[quote name='dr0ppinL0adz']Am I missing something? Nate comes back Friday, March 22nd. Apply an advance every 2 days and the latest we draft would be the last weekend of March. Why would we have to wait 3 weeks??[/QUOTE]

It will have taken 3 weeks for playoffs, n8's week, and FA, that's not including preseason which would add another week.
 
I should note that I will be at PAX East Fri - Sun, home sometime Sunday night. So if we advance then, Seahawks FA might be a little messy, but if I can do some from the website, I can take a peek one of the nights. Will try to remember to take a look, but I'll be very distracted.
 
[quote name='Blade3D']It will have taken 3 weeks for playoffs, n8's week, and FA, that's not including preseason which would add another week.[/QUOTE]

Preseason should only take 4 days.
 
[quote name='dr0ppinL0adz']Am I missing something? Nate comes back Friday, March 22nd. Apply an advance every 2 days and the latest we draft would be the last weekend of March. Why would we have to wait 3 weeks??[/QUOTE]

The last Sunday in March is Easter. I assume that is not a good day for people. I know I will be with my family the whole day. Saturday might be okay. I have no idea what everyones schedule is, but I was under the impression that Sunday was the day we were going for.
 
I say we wait so all the new owners get an equal chance if not then there will probably be a high rate of somebody leaving. We all know how that goes..
 
[quote name='Blade3D']It will have taken 3 weeks for playoffs, n8's week, and FA, that's not including preseason which would add another week.[/QUOTE]

so basically it's just adding 5 days to what the normal schedule would've been. I don't think it's that big of a deal.
 
[quote name='GpNinja']I say we wait so all the new owners get an equal chance if not then there will probably be a high rate of somebody leaving. We all know how that goes..[/QUOTE]

Or maybe people will leave cause they've lost interest in the game waiting...
 
[quote name='Yo Soy El Tiger']My db 's are all below 80...sma bradford is paid way too much and isn't that good in my opinion..steven jqckson is a 91 but I don't run the ball all too much so I would like to down grade there. ..and that's with just a little bit of knowledge of my team[/QUOTE]

Do you want Quentin Jammer - 84 OVR? His stats aren't really great, but he can be a decent CB.
 
[quote name='GpNinja']I say we wait so all the new owners get an equal chance if not then there will probably be a high rate of somebody leaving. We all know how that goes..[/QUOTE]

Isn't the Rams owner the only one without a league invite? Just give him exclusive rights to his own guys and let him bid when he gets invited on Friday.
 
Im almost positive the rams.owner should be able to join by searching for the league if n8 could gibe him the password unless one of the committee members has the password as well. If its a private league it would require a password
 
So the bickering ends I am sending out a anonymous vote on whether to advance now or wait until nate gets back from vacation. You should all receive it within the next 5 minutes and I'll share the results with n8 and the thread and all responses that I receive by noon tomorrow.
 
[quote name='Zolor23']Do you want Quentin Jammer - 84 OVR? His stats aren't really great, but he can be a decent CB.[/QUOTE]

I would like to see how he would fit in my scheme. ..I run zone 70percent of the time..I have to wait till I get my team before I can even consider it
 
[quote name='Blade3D']Or maybe people will leave cause they've lost interest in the game waiting...[/QUOTE]
Oh well I'd rather give everybody an equal chance. But hey sorry for putting in my thoughts. Lol
 
[quote name='perdition(troy']So the bickering ends I am sending out a anonymous vote on whether to advance now or wait until nate gets back from vacation. You should all receive it within the next 5 minutes and I'll share the results with n8 and the thread and all responses that I receive by noon tomorrow.[/QUOTE]

I refuse to vote, anarchy!!!

[quote name='GpNinja']Oh well I'd rather give everybody an equal chance. But hey sorry for putting in my thoughts. Lol[/QUOTE]

Have they put an equal amount of time into this league?
 
PM has been sent out and I cleared my messages assuming most will respond by then. If it is an overwhelming number either way I will post the response earlier than noon tomorrow.
 
Well since this league only has a year left...is there anyone here planning on starting a new one. ..I play everyday...I'm in two leagues with billy mcdugal and two more that are on a break since the commissioner is on vacation as well but those two are prob going to end. ..I would love to join another league that plans to operate for mulitiple yewrs where the contqcts and draft picks actually matter
 
[quote name='Blade3D']I thought n8 was fine either way...[/QUOTE]

That is what he said.

It might not seem like it because not everyone is so vocal in the thread, but there are 32 teams in this league and we are not going to be able to accomodate them all. I don't think we should have this delay just so 2 owners can have an extra day or 2 of free agency. Barely any players sign until it's over anyway. Are we going to wait until we have a time where all 32 teams can draft? We didn't last offseason. What's the difference?

[quote name='Yo Soy El Tiger']Well since this league only has a year left...is there anyone here planning on starting a new one. ..I play everyday...I'm in two leagues with billy mcdugal and two more that are on a break since the commissioner is on vacation as well but those two are prob going to end. ..I would love to join another league that plans to operate for mulitiple yewrs where the contqcts and draft picks actually matter[/QUOTE]

This last season should take us pretty close to Madden 25. We won't have enough time to do another season. I am under the impression that the league will be back for Madden 25.
 
[quote name='Konfusion']That is what he said.

It might not seem like it because not everyone is so vocal in the thread, but there are 32 teams in this league and we are not going to be able to accomodate them all. I don't think we should have this delay just so 2 owners can have an extra day or 2 of free agency. Barely any players sign until it's over anyway. Are we going to wait until we have a time where all 32 teams can draft? We didn't last offseason. What's the difference?[/QUOTE]


So, we can either wait until I get home on Friday to proceed further. OR, I can advance you guys and let somebody take over for me the rest of the way...because without free agency my team is pretty much dead. Honestly, I'm fine either way. It's not like my run to finish last season was incredibly strong anyway. So, whatever the majority wants, that's what we can do. Sorry about this. I really was hoping it wouldn't be this huge of a pain in the ass. If EA had ever released that mobile app that they bragged about back when they were trying to sell the game, it probably would have gone a lot smoother.
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Respond to the vote and the majority will get their way. We will either have more votes to wait, or more votes to advance now. Nothing will be decided at this point tonight.
 
[quote name='GpNinja']Who said we only have a year left in the league?[/QUOTE]

no one, at this point we just don't know if we will get 2 seasons in before next game or just one.
 
That was the general consensus over the last three days that I noticed. ..I would like to be wrong. ..I can go back and quote but I'm on my phone right now
 
[quote name='perdition(troy']Respond to the vote and the majority will get their way. We will either have more votes to wait, or more votes to advance now. Nothing will be decided at this point tonight.[/QUOTE]

Why does this "vote" decide anything?
 
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