CAGLS: Madden 13 Gentlemen's League - We Finished! Thanks for Playing!

[quote name='n8rockerasu']Fortunately, I haven't played too many scrambling QB's yet this year. I've got some coming though, lol. Regular spies aren't working? (DE's and MLB) And I'm glad to see you guys jumping on the "teaching" bandwagon this year. I'm going to take partial credit for that, haha ;)[/QUOTE]

Depends who you spy. I wouldn't recommend putting a DE in the spy this year, especially with the Read Option. The DE will automatically lift up and drift to the middle of the field. This causes two issues - If you spy the RE then running to the left will smoke you and two the RE will be too fat and slow to do anything against the QB sprinting to the right.

Contains work OK, but it depends on your play recognition ratings. I user with my MLB so I don't spy their often. One option might be to put the SS in a spy. I haven't practiced against it much either, but now that I've got Tebow and what's his nuts in Oakland I'll have to figure it out.

By the way - I offered to practice with several people last year in both leagues and not a single person took me up on it.
 
I recommend turning strategy pad quicklinks on if you haven't already(like it was in Madden 10)

Hot routes and audibles are alot quicker this way and it just feels much more natural. Also, turn off auto-strafe and auto-sprint.
 
I played the panther and rg3, granted he didnt run much with rg3, i put my best dl in qb contain, and it seemed to me everytime i did he would drop about a yard back from the los and right in front of the qb. my best advice would be sub in your fastest dl that has pretty good awareness and just play him in qb spy, that way if he runs he has a better chance of getting their, and two if not you can alway drop him back when you see someone crossing the middle of the field. That's just my opinion.
 
Thanks for all the tips guys. I have been trying to user my LB's more often after that advice was given (I believe by BV). It does make it easier to cover runs to the outside and passes across the middle.
 
Yup, I was talking about it earlier with Rob, but getting better at Madden is such a painstakingly long process because the people who are already good have been good for a LONG time. Catching up to them is unlikely, so you just have to make marginal improvements.

I've been working on it pretty hardcore for over a year now, and I'm JUST now getting a feel for usering and jumping routes. Learning all the dpad shortcuts is also critical and knowing what plays are good for covering what. To me, offense is always the easy thing for people to pick up. But shutting down another team's offense takes a hell of a lot of thought, effort, and time.
 
Great point n8, and if you couldnt tell by my number 1 offense and number 32 defense i would fall into that category :)


but falcons improve to 3-3 with 24 points scored in the 4th quarter to mount a comback.

Falcons 31 Raiders 28

Matt Ryan once again threw for over 300 yds but only 1 TD
Ex- Raider Taiwan Jones had 4 TDs with less than a hundred yards.

Darren McFadden can trip off a curb and break his big and pinky toes. Idk how many yards he ran for but it was quite a few. GG Flyersfan.
 
[quote name='bvharris']If anyone has any tips on how to stop QB draws with running QBs, I'd love to hear 'em. :D

That's one thing I have not been able to figure out yet. I can stop scrambles pretty effectively, but the designed QB runs just kill me.[/QUOTE]


yeh agreed lol
 
[quote name='n8rockerasu']Yup, I was talking about it earlier with Rob, but getting better at Madden is such a painstakingly long process because the people who are already good have been good for a LONG time. Catching up to them is unlikely, so you just have to make marginal improvements.

I've been working on it pretty hardcore for over a year now, and I'm JUST now getting a feel for usering and jumping routes. Learning all the dpad shortcuts is also critical and knowing what plays are good for covering what. To me, offense is always the easy thing for people to pick up. But shutting down another team's offense takes a hell of a lot of thought, effort, and time.[/QUOTE]

Defense is by far the most difficult to master. The best thing you can do is learn all the pre-snap adjustments and pay attention to how your opponent reacts in different situations. Most people fall back on their go to play on third and long so by the end of the first quarter you have a general guess as to what play they will be running and who they look to most in those critical situations.

Someone I played a couple weeks ago came out playing great. After a couple third down plays (where people usually go to their "comfort" play) I figured out he liked throwing to guys coming across the middle when he really needed the yards. He completed a few of them for good yardage. Then came the second quarter and a long third down play. My first thought was he is going across the middle to someone. So knowing most crossing routes in a 5 wide formation come from the inside slot I had my corner shade him to the inside. The ball is snapped, his go to man is no longer open, he panics, throws a pick 6. Without the little pre-snap adjustment its a catch and a first down. That leads to frustration which then causes the opponent to fall even further back into his "comfort plays" and become more predictable.

Just ask BV when I played him in the other league. He figured out my gameplan early on, I got frustrated and fell back into more and more passing play that he could see coming from a mile away. He beat me 35-7 or something like that.

A big part of playing defense in Madden is being able to out think the offense. And that really just comes by playing a lot of madden. Do yourself a favor though and learn the pre-snap controls.
 
[quote name='Aft3rSh0ck24']Great point n8, and if you couldnt tell by my number 1 offense and number 32 defense i would fall into that category :)


but falcons improve to 3-3 with 24 points scored in the 4th quarter to mount a comback.

Falcons 31 Raiders 28

Matt Ryan once again threw for over 300 yds but only 1 TD
Ex- Raider Taiwan Jones had 4 TDs with less than a hundred yards.

Darren McFadden can trip off a curb and break his big and pinky toes. Idk how many yards he ran for but it was quite a few. GG Flyersfan.[/QUOTE]


GG. I had a few crazy plays. That play where I scored a defensive td I've never seen before in this game, granted I don't play a lot of Madden. My guy was in the backfield after a great jump and I stole the toss for Jones.

And that long run with McFadden where it looked like I got tackled but rolled off the pile and gained more yards, that was pretty cool.

I don't think I ever used Jaquizz, I was planning on it but Run DMC ran effective enough.
 
Anybody waiting on trades, give me some time. I've got an extremely busy day today, and I doubt I"ll be available much until late this evening. Just don't want anybody expecting to hear anything soon.
 
[quote name='CAGLeagueSports']Anybody waiting on trades, give me some time. I've got an extremely busy day today, and I doubt I"ll be available much until late this evening. Just don't want anybody expecting to hear anything soon.[/QUOTE]

I played my game yesterday, as long as I can get stuff through in week 7 I am good.
 
N8 are you planning on advancing tomorrow evening or waiting until Saturday morning to actually advance. Just wondering how much time i still have to actually schedule this game.
 
[quote name='Chetty12']N8 are you planning on advancing tomorrow evening or waiting until Saturday morning to actually advance. Just wondering how much time i still have to actually schedule this game.[/QUOTE]

Well, I"ll most likely be up late tomorrow night, so I could conceivably advance us at like 3 AM EST. If I did it Saturday, it would probably be around noon.
 
ya i already played my game as well so im good im not sure if hem already played his or not but im not in a big rush ur all good unless it gets rejected again of course ;)
 
[quote name='DVO21']ya i already played my game as well so im good im not sure if hem already played his or not but im not in a big rush ur all good unless it gets rejected again of course ;)[/QUOTE]

I bet $20 it does
 
Why do pros from the varsity play in the JV league as well? Just curious how its supposed to make you better if you are playing the same as the other league...
 
[quote name='Blade3D']I bet $20 it does[/QUOTE]


wouldnt be to surprised but its not really that uneven at all since he would rather get something for welker then just let him go to FA and i can always franchise tag him if i want to keep him
 
[quote name='DVO21']lol if ur talking about me im no pro[/QUOTE]

No just some of the other folks... In over here because I am thinking about dumping the varsity league. It's just not fun not getting past the 50 yard line every game.
 
trust me i hear ya last year i was the jags in that league my life sucked over here and then i came over here still wasnt great but enjoyed the fact that i was in position to win games
 
[quote name='WV Matsui']No just some of the other folks... In over here because I am thinking about dumping the varsity league. It's just not fun not getting past the 50 yard line every game.[/QUOTE]

Just because some of us play in both leagues, it doesn't make us "pros". I've won 2/3 of the championships in this league, and I've had one total playoff appearance in the other league in about 4 or 5 years of playing (actual years, not total seasons).
 
[quote name='WV Matsui']No just some of the other folks... In over here because I am thinking about dumping the varsity league. It's just not fun not getting past the 50 yard line every game.[/QUOTE]

Rest assured, anyone who proves to be a top contender in the other league will be asked to step aside here. I've already brought that point up. And there were some folks who played in this league last year who are not back this year. What you have to understand is that there's no real metric for determining how good somebody is...especially with all the first year players we have in here. But know that I'm definitely aware of it and it's something I will evaluate as we move into each season.
 
[quote name='WV Matsui']No just some of the other folks... In over here because I am thinking about dumping the varsity league. It's just not fun not getting past the 50 yard line every game.[/QUOTE]

I am lucky if I am even middle of the pack over there. Some players over there destroy me. I made the playoffs last year in season 5 I believe, but that's cause I was in the weakest division there, I think my record was 6-10 lol. Some of us just have the time to play in both leagues.
 
Lions win a tough game against the Eagles to pull out their first win of the season coming out strong after their bye.

Stafford was 11/15 for 174 yards and two touchdowns (1 int). Jahvid Best showed up, rushing for 93 yards on 16 attempts. When asked what changed from the last few games, he replied "Nick Fairley said I better run better, he didn't want to get arrested for the third time this year giving me my third concussion".

The eagles played a solid game, marching up the field at will on there first drive. Thankfully I was able to make some defensive adjustments to stop the run, my man on the eagles was just killing me on that first drive. Great game, he had me running scared from start to finish.
 
Just had a good game with DoctorWorm. Dolphins won 24-10. I honestly feel pretty lucky to have won that one. On my first 2 scoring drives, both of them were assisted by drop Int's by the Rams. Pretty thankful for that. Then on my third touchdown, it looked as though a DB was going to jump my route but somehow Tannehill fit it in. Thankfully i won't have to play Steven Jackson again anytime soon :p
 
GG Chetty. I just can't seem to be competitive in this year's Madden. My only wins are against the CPU, and even though I was technically in this one for most of it, I just didn't feel like I was anywhere close.
 
[quote name='lyric706']GG Chetty. I just can't seem to be competitive in this year's Madden. My only wins are against the CPU, and even though I was technically in this one for most of it, I just didn't feel like I was anywhere close.[/QUOTE]

Id try mixing in some more draws, especially from shotgun with Jackson and see if that helps your running game. Maybe throw a few more screens in, I'd suggest you try to mix up the formations you use them from. Because you got me with the first one, but once I saw that formation it kind of gave it away. But it didn't seem like you were having trouble moving the ball, it was more finishing off the drives. Once you find plays to use in the redzone, I'm sure you'll have more success because your defense was pretty good today.
 
[quote name='Chetty12']Id try mixing in some more draws, especially from shotgun with Jackson and see if that helps your running game. Maybe throw a few more screens in, I'd suggest you try to mix up the formations you use them from. Because you got me with the first one, but once I saw that formation it kind of gave it away. But it didn't seem like you were having trouble moving the ball, it was more finishing off the drives. Once you find plays to use in the redzone, I'm sure you'll have more success because your defense was pretty good today.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the advice. Yes, I do need to be more creative with my play-calling. Last year, my running game with Jackson was great, but it seems like he's getting caught in weird animations this year and just falling down. He also doesn't seem as fast, but I guess that's right, considering he is a year older.

My problem always is getting the ball to the wide receivers. I am getting better at finding the open guy, but it seems like I just can't get it there before a DB jumps the route. I have many, MANY interceptions this year.

Anyway, GG again. I appreciate your sportsmanship, because really, the score could have been way worse tonight!
 
[quote name='Blade3D']Carolina Panthers receive:
Frank Gore- 29, OVR 92
Contract- 3 years left- 4.59m, 5.36m, 6.37m

Alex Smith- 28, OVR 83
Contract- 3 years left- 5.01m, 5.91m, 7.08m

San Francisco 49ers receive:
Cam Newton- 23, OVR 89
Contract- 3 years left- 4.05m, 4.85m, 5.88m

2nd Round Pick

As I said before I am trying to drop some payroll while upgrading at QB. He is getting the top 10 RB he wants, and a solid QB.[/QUOTE]

TRADE APPROVED

[quote name='Chetty12']This is a trade between Baltimore and Miami.

Miami Receives-

Ray Rice- 95 Ovr, 25 Years- 5 years left, 35 million total, 5.21M in 2012

Baltimore Receives-

James Starks- 75 Ovr, 26 Years- 2 years left, 1.3M total, 480K in 2012
1st round 2013
3rd round 2013

I'm doing it because it's Ray Rice and i have the cap room to absorb his contract. I've also been having a fumbling problem with Lamar Miller, so the improvement will be welcome. He's also kind of low in the cap department with only a little over 5 million, so that helps him there as well especially with Reed and Flacco needing new contracts. I'm not sure if those are the reasons for him doing it but on the surface looking at his team, that'd be the logical explanation i would take from it. I'm also willing to include any of my top 4 picks from 2014 in the trade if the committee thinks that equal out the compensation a little more.[/QUOTE]

TRADE REJECTED

Again, this was a pretty emphatic rejection. Even without taking into consideration that Starks was a player just traded for, nobody thought this was anywhere close to even. I am going to say though, since not many people commented on it, I'm using my own judgment and instituting a policy that players you trade for cannot be included in a trade for 8 weeks or until the offseason, whichever comes first. As I said before, I want people to actually be thinking about the moves they make, and not just flipping players like trading cards. So, take this one back to the drawing board and start over.

[quote name='DVO21']Bengals would get:
Wes Welker age 31 ovr 90 contract 1 year 9.5M

New England would get:
Stephen Hill age 21 ovr 77 in my schem i think he is 70 normal though. contract 4 years 2012 480K 2013 630K 2014 820K 2015 1.07M
2nd round pick in the 2014 draft.
if for any reason the committee does not like this trade if they could tell me or dvo what pick would help the trade go through to let one of us know.

changed the 4th to a 2nd rounder[/QUOTE]

TRADE REJECTED

Given Welker's abilities, the committee still felt that this one was a bit light.
 
Also, isn't the trade deadline week 8? If it's going to be 8 weeks before you can trade someone, why not just say you can't trade them that current season. That's why I was saying a lower required time would be better. Also, I think a lot of this stems from oh I want this guy now cause he is better and wasnt on the market at the time. I think 4-5 weeks would solve this problem because most likely someone else will have made a trade for them by then or you can try to workout a trade with someone you just didn't trade for. This also gives someone the oppurtunity to trade for someone at the beginning of a season and if that player isn't working out to deal them before the trade deadline.
 
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[quote name='Blade3D']49ers Updated Trading Block
Randy Moss 1yr left 2.5m
Mike Williams 1 yr left 1.68m
3rd, 4th, 2x 5th, 2x 6th, 2x 7th round picks

I am looking to move up to 1st and 2nd round picks, and adequate replacement receivers.

Also, isn't the trade deadline week 8? If it's going to be 8 weeks before you can trade someone, why not just say you can't trade them that current season. That's why I was saying a lower required time would be better. Also, I think a lot of this stems from oh I want this guy now cause he is better and wasnt on the market at the time. I think 4-5 weeks would solve this problem because most likely someone else will have made a trade for them by then or you can try to workout a trade with someone you just didn't trade for. This also gives someone the oppurtunity to trade for someone at the beginning of a season and if that player isn't working out to deal them before the trade deadline.[/QUOTE]


yeah i agree with this.
 
Broncos Trade Block

Andre Carter - RE - 91
Demaryius Thomas - WR - 81
Knowshon Moreno - RB - 79 (Very fast, receiving RB)
Eric Decker - WR - 80
Willis MaGahee - RB - 87 (Hoping to trade up. Willing to give receivers, etc. )
 
[quote name='Blade3D']Also, isn't the trade deadline week 8? If it's going to be 8 weeks before you can trade someone, why not just say you can't trade them that current season. That's why I was saying a lower required time would be better. Also, I think a lot of this stems from oh I want this guy now cause he is better and wasnt on the market at the time. I think 4-5 weeks would solve this problem because most likely someone else will have made a trade for them by then or you can try to workout a trade with someone you just didn't trade for. This also gives someone the oppurtunity to trade for someone at the beginning of a season and if that player isn't working out to deal them before the trade deadline.[/QUOTE]

That's a good point. I wasn't thinking of that when I posted. I still want to err on the side of being strict though because I don't think anyone can really dispute that the trades that take place in both leagues verge on the ridiculous. Franchise players are tossed about like it's no big deal. Since we no longer have a trade cap, people are definitely free to make more moves. But I really don't want to see many (if any) players traded twice in one season.

So, because of that, I'll put the minimum between trades at 6 weeks. That still gives people some time to get rid of players acquired early in the season, But it also limits the number of players eligible for this type of thing. As I said, I really just want people thinking about the trades they're making. The "Oh, a better player came available" defense is stupid. With that logic, you could always be shuffling your entire team. It just makes you look scatter brained and that you're running your team with ADD. And it's definitely not how real teams function.

I'll get a write up for it in the OP later, but yeah, just so everyone is aware, the new policy is that all acquired players must be on their new team for 6 weeks before they're eligible to be traded again.
 
[quote name='CAGLeagueSports']That's a good point. I wasn't thinking of that when I posted. I still want to err on the side of being strict though because I don't think anyone can really dispute that the trades that take place in both leagues verge on the ridiculous. Franchise players are tossed about like it's no big deal. Since we no longer have a trade cap, people are definitely free to make more moves. But I really don't want to see many (if any) players traded twice in one season.

So, because of that, I'll put the minimum between trades at 6 weeks. That still gives people some time to get rid of players acquired early in the season, But it also limits the number of players eligible for this type of thing. As I said, I really just want people thinking about the trades they're making. The "Oh, a better player came available" defense is stupid. With that logic, you could always be shuffling your entire team. It just makes you look scatter brained and that you're running your team with ADD. And it's definitely not how real teams function.

I'll get a write up for it in the OP later, but yeah, just so everyone is aware, the new policy is that all acquired players must be on their new team for 6 weeks before they're eligible to be traded again.[/QUOTE]



this sounds fair
 
[quote name='CAGLeagueSports']That's a good point. I wasn't thinking of that when I posted. I still want to err on the side of being strict though because I don't think anyone can really dispute that the trades that take place in both leagues verge on the ridiculous. Franchise players are tossed about like it's no big deal. Since we no longer have a trade cap, people are definitely free to make more moves. But I really don't want to see many (if any) players traded twice in one season.

So, because of that, I'll put the minimum between trades at 6 weeks. That still gives people some time to get rid of players acquired early in the season, But it also limits the number of players eligible for this type of thing. As I said, I really just want people thinking about the trades they're making. The "Oh, a better player came available" defense is stupid. With that logic, you could always be shuffling your entire team. It just makes you look scatter brained and that you're running your team with ADD. And it's definitely not how real teams function.

I'll get a write up for it in the OP later, but yeah, just so everyone is aware, the new policy is that all acquired players must be on their new team for 6 weeks before they're eligible to be traded again.[/QUOTE]

I think that is acceptable. Ya, I understand, and that's why I think anything around 4-6 weeks would work. How many top tier players last more then a week in real time on the market? Not many, so that's like 3 weeks or so game time. That's why I was saying anything around those time frames would work. It also gives you the chance to deal your free agent before the trade deadline if you feel like you don't need them or want to upgrade to someone else that has come on the trade market.
 
just a heads up, i'll be gone tomorrow form 4:30 pm eastern time till the rest of the night(going to a concert) so me and blade3d will get the trade done and I'll play whoever I need to play either tonight or sunday
 
NY Jets safeties La'Ron Landry and Yeremiah Bell are on the block for draft picks. They're both in their last years. I think Landry should be coming off of injury soon
 
[quote name='CAGLeagueSports']TRADE APPROVED



TRADE REJECTED

Again, this was a pretty emphatic rejection. Even without taking into consideration that Starks was a player just traded for, nobody thought this was anywhere close to even. I am going to say though, since not many people commented on it, I'm using my own judgment and instituting a policy that players you trade for cannot be included in a trade for 8 weeks or until the offseason, whichever comes first. As I said before, I want people to actually be thinking about the moves they make, and not just flipping players like trading cards. So, take this one back to the drawing board and start over.



TRADE REJECTED

Given Welker's abilities, the committee still felt that this one was a bit light.[/QUOTE]

Is Starks the only reason we were rejected or no?
 
Opening my browser to eight unread pages of this thread has made it apparent I don't have the time to keep up with this league. You all are great and this league is a great idea but I just don't have the free time I used to... I'll have to withdraw and put my team up for grabs.
 
[quote name='hammurabi1337']Opening my browser to eight unread pages of this thread has made it apparent I don't have the time to keep up with this league. You all are great and this league is a great idea but I just don't have the free time I used to... I'll have to withdraw and put my team up for grabs.[/QUOTE]

You don't have to keep up with the thread per say, just your games.
 
[quote name='WV Matsui']Is Starks the only reason we were rejected or no?[/QUOTE]

No, a few people felt it was unbalanced anyway. Ray Rice is arguably the best running back in the game and is only 25. Some people felt that the draft picks wouldn't make enough of an immediate impact and that Starks wasn't even much of a throw in to offset the difference.

[quote name='hammurabi1337']Opening my browser to eight unread pages of this thread has made it apparent I don't have the time to keep up with this league. You all are great and this league is a great idea but I just don't have the free time I used to... I'll have to withdraw and put my team up for grabs.[/QUOTE]

Well, that sucks. But this is the exact reason we demand that all trades be even. When people can just bail at any time, no one is going to take over a team with a gutted roster. At least your journey of giving up on the Cardinals is finally over.
 
[quote name='Blade3D']You don't have to keep up with the thread per say, just your games.[/QUOTE]

I get what you're saying, but he does need to be aware of policy changes (especially considering we've had a few recently). But if he doesn't have the time to keep up with things, that's up to him.
 
[quote name='CAGLeagueSports']At least your journey of giving up on the Cardinals is finally over.[/QUOTE]

:rofl:

Sorry hammurabi, but that's pretty hilarious.
 
[quote name='CAGLeagueSports']At least your journey of giving up on the Cardinals is finally over.[/QUOTE]

Thanks, I appreciate that.
 
[quote name='KasterDB']:rofl:

Sorry hammurabi, but that's pretty hilarious.[/QUOTE]

Am I the only one who read that in the voice from that British chick who use to do that gameshow the weakest link?
 
[quote name='pitfallharry219']Now you're not, bastard.

And I miss that show. We need more game shows on prime time TV.[/QUOTE]

I disagree.
 
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