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[quote name='yahoosale14']LOL? maybe in pc sales...but overall sales? not even close. i thought mw3 was bringing dedicated servers this year??[/QUOTE]

MW3 doesn't have dedicated servers, or it hasn't been announced.

And in looking that up to re-confirm, I learned that quick-scoping is coming back. So, noobtubes and quickscoping, the two things that make MW2 unplayable, are back in MW3. Good job, IW, for learning from past mistakes.
 
[quote name='JasonTerminator']MW3 doesn't have dedicated servers, or it hasn't been announced.

And in looking that up to re-confirm, I learned that quick-scoping is coming back. So, noobtubes and quickscoping, the two things that make MW2 unplayable, are back in MW3. Good job, IW, for learning from past mistakes.[/QUOTE]

Tubes are in BO and aren't nearly as big of a problem.

We'll see how it goes with quick-scoping. I'm hoping they don't allow SOH Pro on snipers. Either way, I'll take IW's way over Treyarch's any day. You can't even really use a sniper in BO because of the shit hit detection, anti-sniping maps, and the overall sniper nerf they implemented.
 
[quote name='Trakan']Tubes are in BO and aren't nearly as big of a problem.
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Because of Flak Jacket, and because they can't be replenished with Scavenger.

Which brings up another question, is the equipment slot returning, and are claymores still gonna be in that slot? I don't want MW2's infinite claymore bullshit again.
 
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I just went 18-0 on nuketown hardcore TDM, with SR-71, Chopper Gunner, and Dogs. LOL. Seems like i should have gotten more kills. But my teammates ran to the other side so spawns flipped and i couldnt find the enemies as easy as they should have been while flying the chopper. If they would have just stayed on their side i could have drilled them all where they spawn over and over. :bomb:
 
[quote name='JasonTerminator']Because of Flak Jacket, and because they can't be replenished with Scavenger.

Which brings up another question, is the equipment slot returning, and are claymores still gonna be in that slot? I don't want MW2's infinite claymore bullshit again.[/QUOTE]

infinite? :roll: i'm doubting you've ever played mw2 at this point. its limited to 2/3 claymores iirc. if you plant more than 2, the others disappear.

nube tubing isn't an issue unless the whole team does it and you(for some unknown reason) don't have an OMA, danger close, commando nube tube class to get them back.

im not sure what the crying about quick scoping is, if you got sniped, then go from behind or dont run straight at him and allow him to quick scope you.

will multiplayer details be revealed at cod XP? have they announced when they will discuss it?
 
I think when he said infinite claymores he was referring to them being able to be replenished when using scavenger in MW2, an ability that was adjusted and removed from Blops.
 
[quote name='yahoosale14']infinite? :roll: i'm doubting you've ever played mw2 at this point. its limited to 2/3 claymores iirc. if you plant more than 2, the others disappear.

nube tubing isn't an issue unless the whole team does it and you(for some unknown reason) don't have an OMA, danger close, commando nube tube class to get them back.

im not sure what the crying about quick scoping is, if you got sniped, then go from behind or dont run straight at him and allow him to quick scope you.

will multiplayer details be revealed at cod XP? have they announced when they will discuss it?[/QUOTE]

I'm assuming you never played MW2 then. While JTAG's were destroying MW2 you could lay infinite claymores around the map. You need to check your facts before you post since every one of them has seemed misinformed and biased. You may be a COD fanboy, but many of us have been playing COD since release day and have valid complaints about the games.

Edit: And quickscoping is so easy my 4 year old nephew could do it. You can't exactly get behind 6 players every single time and I have easily seen entire teams either quickscoping or using one man army grenade launchers in MW2. With slight of hand pro bringing up sights quicker and the aim assist that horrible player have to have quickscoping was one of the biggest problems in MW2. Last, OMA tubing from 1 enemy can be a problem. I can show you a video of 1 guy getting 7 kills off the start on Wasteland leading to Harrier, Chopper Gunner, Nuke in about 30 seconds. It is people like you who believe there are no flaws in their favorite game that keep the game from actually getting better. COD4 was a breakthrough and since then the COD series has done nothing worthwhile to improve shooters. I would love to see another "realistic" shooter knock it off, maybe then they will start trying to improve the game rather than change a couple things and crap another one out the next year knowing they will get record sales.
 
[quote name='SlimJim0725']I'm assuming you never played MW2 then. While JTAG's were destroying MW2 you could lay infinite claymores around the map. You need to check your facts before you post since every one of them has seemed misinformed and biased. You may be a COD fanboy, but many of us have been playing COD since release day and have valid complaints about the games.

Edit: And quickscoping is so easy my 4 year old nephew could do it. You can't exactly get behind 6 players every single time and I have easily seen entire teams either quickscoping or using one man army grenade launchers in MW2. With slight of hand pro bringing up sights quicker and the aim assist that horrible player have to have quickscoping was one of the biggest problems in MW2. Last, OMA tubing from 1 enemy can be a problem. I can show you a video of 1 guy getting 7 kills off the start on Wasteland leading to Harrier, Chopper Gunner, Nuke in about 30 seconds. It is people like you who believe there are no flaws in their favorite game that keep the game from actually getting better. COD4 was a breakthrough and since then the COD series has done nothing worthwhile to improve shooters. I would love to see another "realistic" shooter knock it off, maybe then they will start trying to improve the game rather than change a couple things and crap another one out the next year knowing they will get record sales.[/QUOTE]

you've reached the point where it seems you're trolling.

JTAGs are a small minority of the community and i've never experienced this infinite claymore thing you're talking about. 10th prestige glitch didn't bother me because it was aesthetic and pointless.

what information have i posted that is misinformed and bias? i simply thought dedicated servers were in mw3 due to bowling's comment about the backlash from fans and thee pc community. i've had the game since near release and the only big issue was the care package glitch that took quite some time to be fixed(i think i came in after the javelin glitch). you're misinformed if you think quickscoping was one the biggest problems in mw2, then learn to snipe because quickscoping isn't that accurate.

if its part of the game. deal with it and learn to adapt and stop crying about parts of the game, its like crying about certain attachments and perks, its just pathetic and pointless. maybe you're a casual player or our skill levels are very different, but i don't complain about quickscoping or see it as a game breaking issue like the care package glitch.

fwiw, the game is "arcade" and fast paced, not realistic and as most people who have ever played cod know, theres two separate studios who make cod games and they never make successive cod games, giving them 2 years to develop a new game, not "every year" like you incorrectly claim.
 
[quote name='AirMcLaren']I think when he said infinite claymores he was referring to them being able to be replenished when using scavenger in MW2, an ability that was adjusted and removed from Blops.[/QUOTE]

This.
 
[quote name='JasonTerminator']This.[/QUOTE]

its not like you could actually have an unlimited amount of claymores though.

looking it up, the glitch was patcheded at the lastest by november 21. so that glitch only lasted for the first week the game came out.
 
[quote name='yahoosale14']you've reached the point where it seems you're trolling.

JTAGs are a small minority of the community and i've never experienced this infinite claymore thing you're talking about. 10th prestige glitch didn't bother me because it was aesthetic and pointless.

what information have i posted that is misinformed and bias? i simply thought dedicated servers were in mw3 due to bowling's comment about the backlash from fans and thee pc community. i've had the game since near release and the only big issue was the care package glitch that took quite some time to be fixed(i think i came in after the javelin glitch). you're misinformed if you think quickscoping was one the biggest problems in mw2, then learn to snipe because quickscoping isn't that accurate.

if its part of the game. deal with it and learn to adapt and stop crying about parts of the game, its like crying about certain attachments and perks, its just pathetic and pointless. maybe you're a casual player or our skill levels are very different, but i don't complain about quickscoping or see it as a game breaking issue like the care package glitch.

fwiw, the game is "arcade" and fast paced, not realistic and as most people who have ever played cod know, theres two separate studios who make cod games and they never make successive cod games, giving them 2 years to develop a new game, not "every year" like you incorrectly claim.[/QUOTE]

Quickscoping is insanely accurate unless you are bad at the game. JTAGs were very big for a while, just because you were one of the lucky people not to run into them does not mean it wasn't there. I would put on bomb squad/hacker/whatever you want to call it and literally see hundreds of claymores on the map that did not disappear when a player died (plenty of times). The game is easily more realistic than Halo or Gears which are basically the other alternatives to the game as no other company has had a decent multiplayer shooter since Rainbow Six Vegas 2 for me. I also realize 2 studios do the Call of Duty series, that does not mean they do not crap out a Call of Duty every year.

Your misinformation was about infinite claymores btw, but I am done arguing with someone who just can't deal with the truth about the game. You call me a troll, but basically argue with everyone that has an issue with the game saying that something isn't broken about it. As I said before, enjoy being a fanboy of a series that is just going downhill. The game just gets easier and easier as time goes on anyways because the name Call of Duty jumps out to every casual player now.
 
[quote name='SlimJim0725']Quickscoping is insanely accurate unless you are bad at the game. JTAGs were very big for a while, just because you were one of the lucky people not to run into them does not mean it wasn't there. I would put on bomb squad/hacker/whatever you want to call it and literally see hundreds of claymores on the map that did not disappear when a player died (plenty of times). The game is easily more realistic than Halo or Gears which are basically the other alternatives to the game as no other company has had a decent multiplayer shooter since Rainbow Six Vegas 2 for me. I also realize 2 studios do the Call of Duty series, that does not mean they do not crap out a Call of Duty every year.

Your misinformation was about infinite claymores btw, but I am done arguing with someone who just can't deal with the truth about the game. You call me a troll, but basically argue with everyone that has an issue with the game saying that something isn't broken about it. As I said before, enjoy being a fanboy of a series that is just going downhill. The game just gets easier and easier as time goes on anyways because the name Call of Duty jumps out to every casual player now.[/QUOTE]

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haha ok, i'm not misinformed....it was a glitch that was fixed immediately and was in no way a big deal or a game breaker. im not arguing with issues, but theres no need to complain about a game when theres tons of others to play. you dont like noob tubing? go play a different game, its that simple. i dont like halo reach's health system and reticule bloom, but you dont see me crying about it ad nauseum, do you?
 
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haha ok, i'm not misinformed....it was a glitch that was fixed immediately and was in no way a big deal or a game breaker. im not arguing with issues, but theres no need to complain about a game when theres tons of others to play. you dont like noob tubing? go play a different game, its that simple. i dont like halo reach's health system and reticule bloom, but you dont see me crying about it ad nauseum, do you?[/QUOTE]

Actually it wasn't even fixed immediately, the infinite claymores lasted for several months and it was a major game breaker for anyone unlucky enough to run into rooms like that frequently. You could adjust damage ratios where any "damage" perk (stopping power, danger close) was either unstoppable or it did absolutely nothing, chopper gunners did insane amounts of damage, and nukes could last anywhere from 1 second to an hour. I did go and play different games at that point, but there is not a very good variety of shooters out that are any good and on top of that unless it is Halo, COD, or Gears you could easily spend hours just searching for matches. Being a consumer I can voice my opinion on whatever I feel like and I feel like many of the issues I have with the game have been fairly common complaints in the "COD community" with any of the games.
 
Pretty easy to tell last video was photo shopped/edited for his amusement none of the\\\\hots were real and were staged. If you wish to show true skill challenge me, Cheesy Dinodale
 
[quote name='XpG CheesyMan']Pretty easy to tell last video was photo shopped/edited for his amusement none of the\\\\hots were real and were staged. If you wish to show true skill challenge me, Cheesy Dinodale[/QUOTE]

The Rolling Thunder video? It's edited for style, but what makes you think it was staged?
 
i dont have a linked youtube to show clips, but its a flash kill and the clip doesn't show the flashing anyway

this guy was in a room on WMD (the one that leads to outside walkway)

he kills two guys, i flash him, he hides behind indoor window while flashed, proceeds to aim at me and kill me while flashed.

funny thing is though, in the clip (without flashing) it shows his gun trailing me and aiming for him. the position of his gun is to the left while facing right
 
[quote name='timesplitt']i dont have a linked youtube to show clips, but its a flash kill and the clip doesn't show the flashing anyway

this guy was in a room on WMD (the one that leads to outside walkway)

he kills two guys, i flash him, he hides behind indoor window while flashed, proceeds to aim at me and kill me while flashed.

funny thing is though, in the clip (without flashing) it shows his gun trailing me and aiming for him. the position of his gun is to the left while facing right[/QUOTE]

That is just lag for the gun aiming for him, he was probably pretty much on you the whole way. As for him being flashed, it could either be that he had tactical mask pro (you would get hit markers, but it wouldn't affect him) or he could have just heard your footsteps and followed shooting. I have killed plenty of people while flashed or stunned and have had it happen to me as well.
 
[quote name='SlimJim0725']That is just lag for the gun aiming for him, he was probably pretty much on you the whole way. As for him being flashed, it could either be that he had tactical mask pro (you would get hit markers, but it wouldn't affect him) or he could have just heard your footsteps and followed shooting. I have killed plenty of people while flashed or stunned and have had it happen to me as well.[/QUOTE]

Probably a Tac Mask Pro user, yes. It's why it's quickly becoming my favorite tier 3 perk.

I got accused of "wall hacking" yesterday because I wallbanged a guy I saw go into a building, twice. I imagine he was pissed, hence the accusation.
 
Not sure, ive done a replay of a video where i got flash banged, but in the replay the flash effects dont show up. So he could have been flash banged. Also hate how once you see something, and rewind it, it wont do it the same. Like a car exploding, once it explodes in the replay, if you rewind it and play it over it will still be in its post explosion state. Or if someone blows up, replay it and they disappear upon death. Stuff like that.

As for cheesyman, i think he was talking about the knife/tomahawk video? Though that wasnt even the 2nd to last video posted. Doesnt make sense to say that about my carpet bomb. Unless he was just trying to make a joke?
 
Starting to notice lots of groups of people working together to camp-control an area. In FFA.

They really should remove the ability to join your friend's FFA games. I use the feature to play FFA with my friends sometimes, but I'm willing to give that up to stop those cheaters.

Also, really starting to resent that all my favorite assault rifles are unlocked at high levels since I've decided to stop using the FAMAS whenever possible. The enfield is ok, but the recoil is unpredictable, and the M16 isn't good for smaller maps, and I don't use the M14. I love me some Olympia, but that only works if I can flank my enemies, and some people just don't let that happen, usually campers who always have spy planes.

I should probably stop complaining about this game.
 
Wow you got 4 kills? 2 from the nade and 2 from blowing up the RC car with that nade? Thats what it looked like. If so thats pretty sweet. You should post the one you were talking about before with the flash.
 
Im uploading it, i ran through the whole video got to the part, the screen flashes, and he moves slow.

in the clip theres no flash and he moves at regular speed. so its hard to determine anything if it uploads this way

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phvFLZrUWWc
HERE IT IS, and remember his screen is white(radar goes away) yet he knows when to shoot and the gun like traces me (i looked at what he had, he had "hacker pro")
 
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If he had Tac Mask Pro on it would have shown him just laughing at your flash in the killcam. If he got hit with it and was blinded but his gun was still following you, it was probably just the aim assist screwing you. I know I've hit some cheap aim assist kills before, it happens.
 
[quote name='timesplitt']Im uploading it, i ran through the whole video got to the part, the screen flashes, and he moves slow.

in the clip theres no flash and he moves at regular speed. so its hard to determine anything if it uploads this way

HERE IT IS, and remember his screen is white(radar goes away) yet he knows when to shoot and the gun like traces me (i looked at what he had, he had "hacker pro")[/QUOTE]

That is hard to tell since I am not seeing it actually happen, but it doesn't look like the flash really hit him too much at all which is why he was able to do that. As for the gun following you, my guns do that movement all the time because I turn a lot, you should see what it looks like on a higher sensitivity. I played on 10 at one point and even though I played well on it, I also had a lot of deaths that I normally wouldn't have had due to my aim being too fast and I start getting trigger happy because of it.
 
i shoulda been smarter, if i had creeped in rather than run i coulda gotten the drop on him.
i got flashed in a match earlier today and it really slows you down so this guy did get lucky.


today was a weird day. one group of guys loved the chopper gunner and called it in like 4 times a match for several. my rockets got a lot of use (and misses). after a couple matches of these guys owning me and my team. we actually had the lead in one match, but lost the lead and then lost the match by 1 kill. i was so pissed, i still am.


i was in another match where it was 2 vs 5 the game never brought people in wtf is this about? (i was on the team of 2)
 
[quote name='timesplitt']

i was in another match where it was 2 vs 5 the game never brought people in wtf is this about? (i was on the team of 2)[/QUOTE]

I just had a similar match happened. I wouldn't have minded as much if it were TDM, but it was domination and it was a 2v6 (more like 1v6 since my teammate was 0 and 5). I stopped paying attention to not having teammates and just focused on trying to stay alive since they had almost every area locked down camping corners and I did a pretty decent job at it.

[quote name='JasonTerminator']
Also, really starting to resent that all my favorite assault rifles are unlocked at high levels since I've decided to stop using the FAMAS whenever possible. The enfield is ok, but the recoil is unpredictable, and the M16 isn't good for smaller maps, and I don't use the M14. I love me some Olympia, but that only works if I can flank my enemies, and some people just don't let that happen, usually campers who always have spy planes.[/QUOTE]

I am trying not to use the Famas too, I only use it when I am severely outgunned cause of having stupid teammates (playing domination solo) and always having to worry about enemy killstreaks. You are missing out if you don't try the M!6, Enfield, and M14 out in the right situations. I purchase all 3 due to the variety it gives me for almost any map. The Enfield is mainly a mid to short range AR, the M16 is mid to long range, and the M14 is mainly long range though if you learn how to really use it you can beat almost any gun at any range with it.

I also suggest running low killstreaks with hardline such as spy plane, counter spy plane, and napalm if alone or only with a couple people. A spy plane really quick with 2 kills, most people can get a 3 killstreak a couple times a match at least so that is at least to counter spy planes a match to give yourself cover from enemy spy planes (only use when enemy plane is up), and then use napalms as defense to either defend a flag or yourself by cutting off the enemy. The only other one I suggest is spy plane, counter spy plane, and blackbird. The people that hold 2.5 k/d's or higher without using attack killstreaks are usually the best players in the room (though not always). I am doing like I used to in COD4 and picking up the first weapon I see when I am low or out of ammo and being able to use any gun with just about any attachment as definitely improved my game play again.
 
[quote name='SlimJim0725']I am trying not to use the Famas too, I only use it when I am severely outgunned cause of having stupid teammates (playing domination solo) and always having to worry about enemy killstreaks. You are missing out if you don't try the M!6, Enfield, and M14 out in the right situations. I purchase all 3 due to the variety it gives me for almost any map. The Enfield is mainly a mid to short range AR, the M16 is mid to long range, and the M14 is mainly long range though if you learn how to really use it you can beat almost any gun at any range with it.

I also suggest running low killstreaks with hardline such as spy plane, counter spy plane, and napalm if alone or only with a couple people. A spy plane really quick with 2 kills, most people can get a 3 killstreak a couple times a match at least so that is at least to counter spy planes a match to give yourself cover from enemy spy planes (only use when enemy plane is up), and then use napalms as defense to either defend a flag or yourself by cutting off the enemy. The only other one I suggest is spy plane, counter spy plane, and blackbird. The people that hold 2.5 k/d's or higher without using attack killstreaks are usually the best players in the room (though not always). I am doing like I used to in COD4 and picking up the first weapon I see when I am low or out of ammo and being able to use any gun with just about any attachment as definitely improved my game play again.[/QUOTE]

Hardline is nice, but claymore deaths piss me off enough to make me use Flak Jacket damn near all the time, and I don't wanna give up Ninja or Tac Mask Pro (When I unlock it) for Hacker. And yes, I've stopped going for Blackbird/Dogs as much as I used to. I love it when I get them, but it's not often enough to rely on, unless I'm really beasting a lobby.

And the M16 is beast, but not in close-range. I've started to hipfire more than panic knife now, since I hate the inconsistency, and the M16's hipfire isn't so hot. Played a match on Array, a map I hate, with the M16 Red Dot and dominated.
 
Wow i love this games connection. I have an SR-71, i see a guy coming around the corner, i lay prone and start shooting right before he comes around the corner. (I have ghost, surpressor) Somehow he magically comes around the corner, finds me, and shoots me before one of my bullets hit him. fucking magical.
 
I guess its karma too when an RC car kills me while im using flak jacket pro, and after i havent taken any damage at all before hand? Yeah that just happened.
 
[quote name='The 7th Number']I guess its karma too when an RC car kills me while im using flak jacket pro, and after i havent taken any damage at all before hand? Yeah that just happened.[/QUOTE]

That's why real pros use the Jammer. Pop that bitch down with an RC car comin' at ya, and no problem, just shoot that bitch.

If you let the RC car get right under you/touch you, which is the only way it can kill you undamaged with Flak Jacket, it's your fault.
 
[quote name='The 7th Number']Wow i love this games connection. I have an SR-71, i see a guy coming around the corner, i lay prone and start shooting right before he comes around the corner. (I have ghost, surpressor) Somehow he magically comes around the corner, finds me, and shoots me before one of my bullets hit him. fucking magical.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, lag can really kill you. It seems like sometimes when connections aren't going your way that somebody can snipe you from across the map with a silenced Scorpion but you can't kill somebody at close range with a shotgun.
 
[quote name='timesplitt']HERE IT IS, and remember his screen is white(radar goes away) yet he knows when to shoot and the gun like traces me (i looked at what he had, he had "hacker pro")[/QUOTE]

Timesplitt, that room the guy is in makes you pretty impervious to flash-bang and stun grenades thrown into the larger room. I know because I've done what that guy did many times before. It blinds/stuns you every so slightly but the affect is negligible.
 
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Wow another map pack, but this one is purely zombies from what i read. 4 remastered maps and a new map where you fight zombies on the moon, what? The worst part of this is i only have 200mb left on my hard drive. :(

It also includes an "enhanced Zombies Soundtrack" and a new Zombies Moon theme.
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Not sure what they meant by this, it was taken from joystick. Could mean a xbox theme for the dashboard, or maybe they just mean its never been done on the moon before? Also soundtrack is confusing, not sure if they mean a real soundtrack, or just new music for the old maps?
 
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Wow another map pack, but this one is purely zombies from what i read. 4 remastered maps and a new map where you fight zombies on the moon, what? The worst part of this is i only have 200mb left on my hard drive. :(



Not sure what they meant by this, it was taken from joystick. Could mean a xbox theme for the dashboard, or maybe they just mean its never been done on the moon before? Also soundtrack is confusing, not sure if they mean a real soundtrack, or just new music for the old maps?[/QUOTE]

Nice, I might consider getting map pack 3 now, just to have all the maps again.
 
Interesting... So it is pretty much the maps that game with the hardened edition and then the moon map... Unless of course they added stuff to it.

EDIT: Woodcan (above) pointed this out in our group that:

The four "remastered" maps were previously included with the Hardened and Prestige releases -- if you already have one of those, the rest of this content will be free. Otherwise, it's the standard 1200 MS Points/$15. It'll be easy to acquire, too, according to One of Swords: " the short version is you'll be able to go into your Download History and re-download the classic pack you already own, and the fresh download will include the new Moon map. And you'll also get the soundtrack and theme, too."
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Joystiq

Awesome news since one of my friends gave me a hardened code for free.

The interview with One of Swords is pretty damn funny. Jimmy Zelinski gives awesome answers.
 
I just got a double team kill with a runaway Strella-3. I'm shooting down a cobra. First rocket goes up, flares come out. Second rocket goes up, misses and circles back toward the helicopter. Then it takes a wicked 45 degree turn when it's just about to hit the top of the helo and slams into two of my friends.

Unbelievable. I rage quit when that happened before I got kicked for a third team kill.
 
[quote name='Ziv']I just got a double team kill with a runaway Strella-3. I'm shooting down a cobra. First rocket goes up, flares come out. Second rocket goes up, misses and circles back toward the helicopter. Then it takes a wicked 45 degree turn when it's just about to hit the top of the helo and slams into two of my friends.

Unbelievable. I rage quit when that happened before I got kicked for a third team kill.[/QUOTE]

Wow, how unlucky.
 
[quote name='Ziv']I just got a double team kill with a runaway Strella-3. I'm shooting down a cobra. First rocket goes up, flares come out. Second rocket goes up, misses and circles back toward the helicopter. Then it takes a wicked 45 degree turn when it's just about to hit the top of the helo and slams into two of my friends.

Unbelievable. I rage quit when that happened before I got kicked for a third team kill.[/QUOTE]

I honestly have never even heard of that happening and I have seen some of the most outrageous things in the game happen. It should still be in your recent games, you should throw it in file share and upload it (render it to follow the rocket that hit them).
 
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