Cheap Ass Gamer at E3 2012

Maybe it is because Wombat's kids are still under 3 or 4, but NintendoLand looks like the type of videogame our family plays together. Granted I dozed off while they were talking about it. But I assume the gist of it is a bunch of 1 vs 3 mini-games where the team of 1 has the gamepad. :)

Not sure what Nintendo was supposed to do for Ship. They showed off Pikmin3 and SMB which he seemed interested in. 2 good games at launch is a lot. Plus UBi showed off a Rayman and ZombieU. If all those end of being great games then that would be an unheard of launch.

But I still remember Red Steel at the Wii launch and how rushed that was. HEar that Ubi?

Now again WiiU isn't going to be a violent 3rd party machine except for ports. What is likely to happen is 3rd parties release these ports. They don't sell because consumers have played them or see that the same game is under $20 on another system. Then the 3rd parties conclude that these games don't sell on the WiiU and then they don't get made.

Or maybe they sell out of the gate. And a few day and date third party games also get released on the Wii U in the next 2 years. That is until the next-gen 360 and PS come out which will presumably create a big power gap between those systems and the Wii U. And no one will develop those games for the Wii U unless they are ports that are pruned and downgraded for Wii U with a GAmepad feature tacked on.

But for 1st party stuff. New ways to play. 3rd party stuff that is all ages or kids stuff or mainstream-y. That will be the Wii U.

Some of these features like IR for the TV and continuing games on the controller seem like features that help sell the system. My 2 kids share a 42" hdtv. If one can play a game on Wii U on his controller when the other wants to watch tv or even play another console or pc hooked up to the tv then that is a big selling point.

I did groan when they showed off wiimotes again and the balance board. It makes the system feel old. Couldn't they have updated the Wiimote somewhat? Improved the pointing functionality so I get less shakiness when pointing at the corners of my tv screen? Or...?

On the other hand would I want to pay for those controllers again. No.

Oh and I sold my balance board yesterday instead of trashing it.
 
I was sadly underwhelmed by all three of the console manufacturer press conferences this year. I would have been happy to hear about a 3DS redesign, a console price drop, or something else exciting.

I'm always happy to hear about new games, but I was hoping for something more unique given that we're nearing the close of this hardware generation.
 
Listened to the Audioboo, just wanted to mention some things, as I've seen others with these same points:
- Last of Us: It didn't come across too well in the gameplay snippet, but the "hobos" were likely part of the bandit/looter gang that was established in a previous trailer, who have been trying to attack and kill the two characters ever since they arrived in the city.

- CoD BlOps 2: The "Snipe" icon was actually part of the new choice system, where you can decide how to proceed through a level, and supposedly your choices can change certain outcomes. At that point, the player must decide whether to snipe and provide covering fire, or rappel down with the rest of the team. In the video, you only see the alternate "Rappel" route for a few seconds, and you probably wouldn't know what it means unless you knew about this feature beforehand.

[quote name='Curufinwe']I'm still hoping they announce the rumored 3DS XL at tomorrow's briefing.[/QUOTE]

It's difficult to say when they'll announce it, since the rumors only state a potential release window of somewhere between summer and the holidays. It's possible that they could announce it tomorrow, but it sounds like the event will be software-focused. Heck, they could even pull an Apple by announcing and releasing it within the same month at either Gamescom or their annual Fall conference. The 360 redesign (same week) and PS3 Slim (within a month) showed this to be a viable plan. Even Nintendo has some precedent with this, as they announced the DSi in October and released it in Japan in November.
 
E3 sounds bad this year. All the financial sites are questioning whether consoles will be around 15 years from now. Just looking at the gaming stocks is enough to tell you that something is going to have to change. These large publishers can't continue to lose money every year. Sony badly needs to do something of they're not going to be around. From the Audioboo it sounds like the WII U came off pretty bad too. This industry is in trouble.
 
[quote name='GOTA']E3 sounds bad this year. All the financial sites are questioning whether consoles will be around 15 years from now. Just looking at the gaming stocks is enough to tell you that something is going to have to change. These large publishers can't continue to lose money every year. Sony badly needs to do something of they're not going to be around. From the Audioboo it sounds like the WII U came off pretty bad too. This industry is in trouble.[/QUOTE]

I have to say that was my guess too. None of the conferences gave me confidence in any one companies offerings. If I had to invest in a new gaming console and I had this year to base my decision on, I would be turned off. I would go with PC gaming, social gaming, or Ipad or Ipod touch, or Android device. The industry has reached a stale point and rehashing the same old stuff. The innovation is really coming from the IOS and Android areas. Why pay for a $60 rehash when I can easily get a quick fix on a game for $5. Console gaming has reached its end I think. I know alot of people and friends are in the same boat. It has just gotten so stale. Nothing really grabs me. And I have been playing games since Atari. This is the first time in gaming that I am completely not interested in anything from any company.
 
the funny thing about the wiiu conference is how proud they were that you could use 2 wiipads with the console lol thats kinda sad considering when they first started talking about it they said youd be able to use 4 and add to that that the games didnt look too impressive on wiiu. yeah its early stuff but so were a number of sony and microsofts games so if thats nin pushing hd well goodluck.
 
I fist pumped the man CheapyD himself in the MS area today. Like a wuss I didn't engage him him in deep conversation, just told him I enjoy his twitter feed. But I figured why bother the poor guy.
 
[quote name='xmbri']I have to say that was my guess too. None of the conferences gave me confidence in any one companies offerings. If I had to invest in a new gaming console and I had this year to base my decision on, I would be turned off. I would go with PC gaming, social gaming, or Ipad or Ipod touch, or Android device. The industry has reached a stale point and rehashing the same old stuff. The innovation is really coming from the IOS and Android areas. Why pay for a $60 rehash when I can easily get a quick fix on a game for $5. Console gaming has reached its end I think. I know alot of people and friends are in the same boat. It has just gotten so stale. Nothing really grabs me. And I have been playing games since Atari. This is the first time in gaming that I am completely not interested in anything from any company.[/QUOTE]

If you're talking about stuff like Call of Duty, Gears of War, Halo 4, Tom Clancy #33, God of War, Assassin's Creed, Just Dance Central 3/4, Dead Space, I agree. While I like Assassin's Creed and God of War, I think it's a waste of dev time/money/energy for a multiplayer that'll be dead in a month online. And I'm sorry, but the ship battle in ACIII looks dumb and annoying. I can see many frustrating checkpoint reloads if your ship goes down due to poor control. Also I don't know how the Assassin's cloak fits with the time period either, so out of place. Sure the games are a buy for me, but I'll CAG it up to $20-30 and play my backlog in the meantime.

But things like Watch Dogs, Beyond, and Last of Us surprised me. They are looking great, unique, and fun. I'll glaldy pay $60 (no I won't, I'm a CAG, I'll find a deal) over a $1 iPhone game that kills 15 wasted minutes of time.

Even Tomb Raider is mixing things up, looking like a survival game now. Not sure I like it, but at least they're trying. Honestly I think the name Lara Croft is hurting the game more than helping, should have been a new IP.

Borderlands 2 is looking awesome. I think the new classes, skills, and areas will keep it fresh. Not to mention chasing that glorious loot!

Bioshock Infinite looks different from its previous games, can't wait to see how that turns out.

So in short, I don't think everything is stale. Stale to me is Draw Something, Plumber Buttcrack, or those dumb sim games like Tiny Tower. But a new console gen is too late. They missed their mark to move on and there are just so many current options that no one will want to adopt the next gen early.
 
Now this is funny: CNN ran a story today about how the WiiU controller can't save an aging Wii. Nintendo was hands down the all-time worst at show I've ever seen. They absolutely needed to nail the conference for WiiU this time and they still don't get it. Last year they said this console was for us core gamers and then turned right around with karaoke games, fitness games, etc. Batman? We played that last year, thanks.

The people that bought Wii are GONE Nintendo; they're not back from iOS or wherever they've gone. The people you wanted fell asleep after Pikmin was shown.
 
I think the internet ruins E3, seriously if you took away the ability to know of all the stuff that'll come out at E3 we'd be still talking about all the great stuff shown. That's how it was in yesteryear.

I was reallllly impressed with Ubisoft and fn not cool because I've watched EVERY Ubisoft show before and they've all been horribly cringe-worthy up to the point this year I decided to skip it. F (I got caught up with youtube though, can't wait for Far Cry 3 and AC3).

Microsoft blew me away with Halo 4, say what you will with rehashed franchises but I didn't get the same vibe I did watching EA's conference (sequel reboot, sequel, yearly game snore).

Funny watching that Ustream as well, I had the exact same reactions Cheapy had with everything. Personally I can't wait for NFS Most Wanted, my favorite of the franchise with open world cop chases, or whatever they finally call it. Social racing competition is my thing.

Thought Sony was going to talk more about their precious Vita, other than sales numbers. That God of War game looked interesting, esp with it going to have multiplayer now. Last of Us and Beyond looked interesting but it was hard to tell what each game were going to be like.

Nintendo's show felt like an extension of last year's show. I am excited for the 3DS games though, Paper f'n Mario, finally!
 
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[quote name='Jodou']The people that bought Wii are GONE Nintendo; they're not back from iOS or wherever they've gone.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, they absolutely failed to build on the unexpected popularity of Wii, and the point you mention is just one aspect of that absolute failure.

It's frightening how directionless and uncertain of themselves they've appeared for two E3s in a row.
 
I appreciate these audio boos, and especially Wombat pronouncing "Lara" correctly. It's something a lot of Americans struggle to do.
 
The biggest and best thing about E3? Cheapy getting back to Japan and getting a jet lag poo and passing out from taking a shit again.
 
they were charging between $40~$60 for parking within the vicinity of the convention center!!!

and if u go a little further out, all the cheaper lots are either full or not allowing convention parking!!!

maaaaan I had to park like 2 miles away lol. Was a good walk tho!!
 
im getting sick and tired of everyone in the "gaming media" posting pics of there e3 swag.

its nothing more than the people "rubbing" it in your face. that they were in e3. which is still an INVITATION ONLY event closed to the public. and the hoops you got to jump through and id forms you must present to get a invite are crazy.

although from previous experience last year. IF you are a federal agent they let you in no questions asked. I was escorted last year by a member of DHS. dept of homeland security and we went right up to the main gate dude flashed his badge they called their security and managers and 5 mins later they handed us 2 badges and told us if we need anything where the security office was located..

but thats not the point here.


e3 is nothing more than one member of the gaming media giving swag to another member of the gaming media . its bribery in its basest fashion
 
[quote name='teknobeavr']
e3 is nothing more than one member of the gaming media giving swag to another member of the gaming media . its bribery in its basest fashion[/QUOTE]

Welcome to the world of corporations and trade shows. Trade shows exist to sell product or services. E3 isn't a consumer fair show, that is what PAX is.
 
[quote name='teknobeavr']im getting sick and tired of everyone in the "gaming media" posting pics of there e3 swag.

its nothing more than the people "rubbing" it in your face. that they were in e3. which is still an INVITATION ONLY event closed to the public. and the hoops you got to jump through and id forms you must present to get a invite are crazy.

although from previous experience last year. IF you are a federal agent they let you in no questions asked. I was escorted last year by a member of DHS. dept of homeland security and we went right up to the main gate dude flashed his badge they called their security and managers and 5 mins later they handed us 2 badges and told us if we need anything where the security office was located..

but thats not the point here.


e3 is nothing more than one member of the gaming media giving swag to another member of the gaming media . its bribery in its basest fashion[/QUOTE]

In 2004, doing internet tech support for Charter was good enough for me to get a free badge for the show floor only.
 
Just wanted to drop in and say I've been listening to the audioboos and not only are they a step up quality-wise from last year, but you guys sound like you're enjoying yourselves a lot more this year than any other. You've really been highlighting the best parts of the show and staying positive on the lesser parts. Personally I'm just glad you didn't harp on Nintendo for a half-hour. I wasn't high on their conference but there's no sense dwelling on its disappointment.
 
[quote name='teknobeavr']im getting sick and tired of everyone in the "gaming media" posting pics of there e3 swag.[/QUOTE]lol hay bro let me show u my pics!!

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anywayz, jus got home, it's late, Im hella tired n needa be back at work in the morning.

but I saw sum stuff!!! will post later. maybe. lol.
 
I thought the WiiU looked pretty cool. I usually like what Nintendo offers. I will be picking one up.



[quote name='Jodou']Now this is funny: CNN ran a story today about how the WiiU controller can't save an aging Wii. Nintendo was hands down the all-time worst at show I've ever seen. They absolutely needed to nail the conference for WiiU this time and they still don't get it. Last year they said this console was for us core gamers and then turned right around with karaoke games, fitness games, etc. Batman? We played that last year, thanks.

The people that bought Wii are GONE Nintendo; they're not back from iOS or wherever they've gone. The people you wanted fell asleep after Pikmin was shown.[/QUOTE]
 
[quote name='Jodou']
The people that bought Wii are GONE Nintendo; they're not back from iOS or wherever they've gone. The people you wanted fell asleep after Pikmin was shown.[/QUOTE]

Or are no longer with us.
 
[quote name='Kazaganthi']Also I don't know how the Assassin's cloak fits with the time period either, so out of place.[/QUOTE]

Couldn't agree more. The cloak in the original AC makes total sense, but after that the look falls apart badly.

I played AC:Brotherhood first and couldn't figure out why he was wearing that ridiculous cape in Renaissance Italy. Also the default color is "assassin white" and that has to be one of the stupidest things I have ever seen in a videogame.

But it was still better then this. There is no way rugged colonial Americans are going to ignore an acrobat prancing around in a hoodie.
 
[quote name='camoor']I played AC:Brotherhood first and couldn't figure out why he was wearing that ridiculous cape in Renaissance Italy.[/QUOTE]
You've never heard the term cloak and dagger? It quite literally spawned from cloak and sword, which were worn by spies/assassins.
 
[quote name='Jodou']You've never heard the term cloak and dagger? It quite literally spawned from cloak and sword, which were worn by spies/assassins.[/QUOTE]

As Suleiman says to Ezio in the beginning of ACR (and I paraphrase) "you don't look like no Italian"

If someone got shanked in Renaissance Italy, the first guy you would suspect is the acrobat sporting the pimped-out Arabic robes and hoodie.
 
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