Chris Benoit kills wife, 7 year old son and then self.

Agreed about Jericho. The only wrestling shirt I own is the very first Y2J shirt and its still hanging on my wall. Bow down to your very first Undisputed Champion.
 
I think Jericho knows he can go back to WWE whenever he wants which is why his comments were tempered. Marc Mero and Chyna have a snowballs chance in hell, which is why the lambast WWE and/or Vince. I think Bret has gone through too much to get animated. That stroke and the tragedies in his life really took a lot out of him.
 
[quote name='Zenithian Legend']I can't imagine anyone not agreeing about Jericho. I hope he comes back to wrestling soon.[/QUOTE]

Yeah same here, Y2J is truly a class act inside and outside the ring. When/if he comes back do you think it will be with the WWE? I'd actually like to see him go to TNA myself.
 
[quote name='Silent Assassin120']Yeah same here, Y2J is truly a class act inside and outside the ring. When/if he comes back do you think it will be with the WWE? I'd actually like to see him go to TNA myself.[/quote]

if he needs the money he will go back to wwe but if not i think he will join tna because of their lighter schedule and i think y2j lives in florida which is where tna is located and films.
 
[quote name='Silent Assassin120']Yeah same here, Y2J is truly a class act inside and outside the ring. When/if he comes back do you think it will be with the WWE? I'd actually like to see him go to TNA myself.[/quote]

Class act is right! I met him at an airport about 6 years ago. I had sat in the 3rd row the night before at a house show, and before I could introduce myself to Jericho, he says, "Hey did you enjoy the show last night?" I was stunned, of course I said yes, which was true, I mean how can you go wrong with a card that included Jericho vs Angle for the world title and a main event that saw Steve Austin teaming with the Undertaker! Still for him to remember me from the night before... or maybe it was a lucky guess, either way I thought it was really cool. In the few minutes I talked to him, Jericho definitely seemed to be a very genuine and classy person.

I saw Benoit that day too... didn't talk to him though.
 
Jericho pointed at me when he was standing on the top turnbuckle at a WCW house show. I was second row, or so.

He nodded in approval, as I was wearing a WCW Monday Night Jericho tshirt.

I almost shit my pants.
 
Another great example of how cool Jericho is. You would think more wrestlers would do things like that. I believe Jericho is smart enough to realize something that small or what he said to me, can make a wrestling fan's day. Plus it's something that fan will never forget. If only more athletes and entertainers were like Jericho.
 
[quote name='lokizz']if he needs the money he will go back to wwe but if not i think he will join tna because of their lighter schedule and i think y2j lives in florida which is where tna is located and films.[/QUOTE]

I really hope he winds up in TNA if anywhere. I mean, he seems like a smart guy, I bet he has enough WWE money put away to not work again for the rest of his life. Seeing a team of WWE guys like Angle, Cage and Jericho go up against the "native" TNA guys (well, semi-native) like Styles, Daniels and Sabin would be awesome. A true markout moment for me if it happened.
 
Sorry, not to derail the current topic, but I remembered going to WWF NY for a signing and Big Show was there. Lots of people don't like him but I think this is a cool story.

A little kid about 3 people in front of me had a Giant figure in the package from WCW. After waiting on line for like an hour, the little kid was next, and he started handing the figure to Big Show who was sitting on the other side of the table, and a WWE "handler" (those people that stand next to the talent) grabbed the figure and pushed it back to the little kid, and said "He won't sign this, only WWE merchandise" and Big Show grabbed the figure back and said "It's my figure, I'll sign what I want" and signed it and gave it to the little kid, who was so excited. And then Big Show said to the WWE employee "Don't ever do that again". Not it a mean way, not it a threatening way, not yelling. Just calmly telling him that.

I thought that was pretty cool.
 
[quote name='Haggar']Sorry, not to derail the current topic, but I remembered going to WWF NY for a signing and Big Show was there. Lots of people don't like him but I think this is a cool story.

A little kid about 3 people in front of me had a Giant figure in the package from WCW. After waiting on line for like an hour, the little kid was next, and he started handing the figure to Big Show who was sitting on the other side of the table, and a WWE "handler" (those people that stand next to the talent) grabbed the figure and pushed it back to the little kid, and said "He won't sign this, only WWE merchandise" and Big Show grabbed the figure back and said "It's my figure, I'll sign what I want" and signed it and gave it to the little kid, who was so excited. And then Big Show said to the WWE employee "Don't ever do that again". Not it a mean way, not it a threatening way, not yelling. Just calmly telling him that.

I thought that was pretty cool.[/quote]

Big Show gets a lot of undeserved crap anyway IMO.

I'll say this about Jericho or any other wrestler, when you get out, stay out if you can becasue that lifestyle can't be healthy. I swear Flair is going to drop dead in the ring.
 
Flair is retiring next year at Wrestlemania.

With how far off topic this thread has become, I'd like to shamelessly promote the actual wrestling thread, where we talk about these sorts of things all the time in an effort to keep this thread on topic. You can find it here.
 
[quote name='GuilewasNK']when you get out, stay out if you can becasue that lifestyle can't be healthy. I swear Flair is going to drop dead in the ring.[/QUOTE]

I posted what my local paper had said. 66 wrestlers under 45 have died in the last 20 years. Also wrestlers are 20 times more likely to die under the age of 40 then pro football players. That little statement alone proves that the need an off season.
 
[quote name='GuilewasNK']Big Show gets a lot of undeserved crap anyway IMO.

I'll say this about Jericho or any other wrestler, when you get out, stay out if you can becasue that lifestyle can't be healthy. I swear Flair is going to drop dead in the ring.[/quote]

Show really does. When I met him (this is a separate incident a year or so before meeting Jericho), I had an autograph sheet and pen, but Show was eating so I didn't want to bother him, just wanted to say hello to say that I met TBS. He said it was no problem though and signed anyway. I think he gets that undeserved crap simply because he doesn't take crap from authority.

As for Flair, I'm pretty sure that's the only way he'd ever have it.
 
Jim Ross comments on the media's coverage of the situaton...

I have come to the conclusion that I am much better off personally watching something like a John Wayne movie, WWE 24/7 or reading a book than I am immersing myself in “news programs” that are filled with theory disguised as fact and with poorly prepared and produced “stars” who are hell-bent on having all the answers, when anyone with any modicum of common sense knows that the truth on many controversial issues has yet to be determined, and perhaps will never be known by any mortal being.
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http://www.wwe.com/inside/commentary/95616/95628/9564221/062907sotw
 
Here's my report on the show (well, the last hour and a half anyway) -

The Wrestling Observer Live radio show on now is all about Benoit, and both Bryan and Dave share storied about Benoit not thinking his matches were all that special, with Eddie having that same mentality. Dave shares a story about seeing a tag match with Benoit and Eddie facing Liger and Ohtani, seeing them blow the house down, hearing the following matches not even get 1/4 the heat, and then going out to dinner with them afterwards, praising their match, and each asking him why he felt it was so good.

Both state that Benoit never projected an ego, even after winning at 'Mania XX, which felt like vindication to Benoit according to them. A caller says he's been a fan for 22 years and Dave says that you'll never see it again. He then knocks Nancy Grace for the "Horsemen to Raw" comment, which Dave says what ignorant, and due to them having a fact-checker who hadn't watched wrestling in forever. He thinks they did a far better job when Jericho was on, and Dave praises Jericho as being the best, with Brian Lawler being an embarrassment.

The caller tells Debra's story when she argued with DeMott, and Dave says that questioning the timing is odd, as the time to do it is now, as they won't care about it later, unfortunately. The caller asks how WWE can erase Benoit from the history books, and Dave says that we're about to find out how they do it, as Benoit is in so many PPVs from 2000-onwards. Dave says that they'll probably just do a normal show on Raw, and they'll never mention Benoit again. Bryan was told that the show will be very light-hearted, without any really violent stuff. Dave says that it's sad that Nancy's contributions to wrestling have been ignored over the past week.

The caller asks about what they can do with Benoit's brain, and says that his wife knew that Daniel had a problem just by looking at him. Dave says that WWE didn't know he had Fragile X, nor did his best friends and even Daniel's grandparents didn't know, and he then says that it still isn't 100% confirmed that he has it. Dave says that some of Benoit's friends feel that Daniel did have something wrong, while others are in complete denial.

The caller then asks if brain damage shows up on Chris, could it have been hereditary, and Bryan says that it isn't likely at all, since Daniel couldn't inherit the damage caused by chairshots to the back of the head, diving headbutts, and God knows what else. Dave says that we'll never know exactly what happened, but we might just find out what they were doing at or around the deaths occurred, but that we'll never know exactly why. He says that, as a father, he can't imagine how Chris killed his son, since he knew for a fact that Chris loved his son. Dave says that he may never be able to watch another match of Benoit's but says that the whole thing is very confusing and he isn't really sure what he'll do.

A new caller asked if he'll be erased from history, and Dave says that while they might do that, but they can't really erase him from history. They'll definitely try, but they can't erase him from history anymore than the NFL can erase O.J. Simpson from history. The caller says that he's still a fan of Benoit the wrestler, but isn't a fan of Benoit the man. He then thanks Bryan for his personal memories of Benoit, and says that they helped him get through this. The caller says that maybe the Bibles were used to show that he knew he was doing wrong, but wanted to use them for salvation, and Dave says that there's probably something to the Bibles. Superstar Billy Graham will be on for hour 2.

A new caller starts off hour 2, saying that he's been a fan for 23 years and says this is very surreal. He asks if anyone thought that Nancy was leaving Chris, and if there could've been an intervention. Dave says that they'd had rough times throughout the years, and that people who were friends of theirs locally knew of their problems, but that Dave didn't know of any problems recently.

Her leaving him leading to this is one policy theory on this whole thing. The caller says that them erasing him from history is just P.R., and Dave says that it's all P.R. Dave says they've handled things very badly, although he did praise them for the show on Monday. The caller calls the press release damage control, and Dave says that it's poor damage control, as antagonizing the media was a horrible move.

The caller asks if they're going to take signs away, and Bryan says that they have already started doing that. Graham is up, and he thanks Dave for having him on. Dave says that of all the people he knows, no one can relate to what Benoit went through more than Billy. He asks him how much, between all the drugs and everything else, do you lose control of your actions. Billy says that he went through a lot of depression due to drugs and horrible health, and that he was at the point of taking his own life, yes, but never got to the point of massacring Valerie.

Billy says that it must've been a very deep issue, and relates Dean's story about Benoit mentally checking out of a conversation in the middle of it. He says that all of the deaths piling up around Benoit got to Chris, to the point of crying on the shoulders of Billy and Valerie, and that Chris took the death worse than anyone else who wasn't part of Eddie's family. Billy says that the placement of the Bibles is very significant, and represented great sorry, with Benoit's hope being to take his son to a better place.

Dave says that there have only been a couple dozen people in our lifetimes that were the top guy in WWE, and that when the run at the top is over, they come dome dramatically. Austin told him this once about Brock, as he understood why Brock left, and didn't hold it against him. The come down was a killer for Billy, and it was almost unbearable according to Billy. He says that he (Billy) might've been too weak, taking it too seriously, and a defect about his own personality, and says that Nancy was telling Valerie that even though Nancy had fun in wrestling, that she didn't miss it at all, and that she loved being a "boring old housewife". Bryan says that Benoit loved wrestling, but hated everything else about the business.

A new caller asks about if either Bryan or Dave have been asked about the wellness policy. Dave says that the testing was developed by Dr. David Black in Nashville, who also developed the NFL's testing. When Dave first learned about steroid testing in the early '90s, when he read everything he could about it. The WWE's key ratio policy is 10 to one, but if you're over 4 to one, you won't be suspended, but you will be watched. He says the situation that's really tough now is guys getting off of steroids who has been on them for a decade, he'll go through major depression and physical problems, which isn't good. That's one reason doctors do prescribe low levels of steroids to help maintain health so guys don't completely lose their minds.

Billy's going to talk about it - after his liver transplant, he was told that he wasn't at the level he should have been, as his testosterone level was very low, at about 125, leading to now have to take 150 milligrams of testosterone to have a normal level. He says that if you don't cycle down intelligently, you're going to come down very hard. Bryan asks about the "roid rage" stuff, Billy says that that when they first mentioned that steroids were in the home, that's why it got national coverage, because they think that steroids triggered it. If they didn't find steroids in the home, the story would've been downplayed.

Billy says that he feels steroids could've played a part, as Chris having a stockpile despite passing an April test tells him that he was keeping them to keep his testosterone up. He says that low testosterone could literally be a killer, and Dave says that looking at the last 18 months of his life, with him losing Eddie, and Bryan says that Chris told Bryan that he would write letters to Eddie every day in a journal given to him by Nancy. Bryan says that Chris said he wasn't crazy, it just helped him get through it.

Billy says it seems like Benoit had some sort of mental illness, but he doesn't know if they saved his brain. Dave says that they might not be able to do, as Chris didn't have the AC on, leading to the tissue degenerating. Chris Nowinski and others are trying to get his brain preserved for medical testing. Billy says that they definitely need to do something, as Benoit was sending text messages while seeing his wife decompose before his eyes. Billy says that Benoit must've been living a personal Hell to do this, and go through such elaborate means to kill himself.

A new caller is on, and Dave says that Benoit was the first guest in the history of the show, on October 9, 1999. Brian Hilebrand had just passed away, and Brian was one of Chris' best friends. Dave related a story of Benoit, Jericho, and Guerrero right before Brian's death, and Brian calling him right before his death, he never dwelled on it, and he praised Chris no matter what. Benoit was Brian's favorite subject, even as he was dying from cancer. At about 100 pounds, Brian, Eddie, Dave, Benoit, and Jericho were together - Benoit was crying uncontrollably, and Brian asked what the problem was, and Brian asked him what the problem was, and that their families were going to go to the mountains together soon. Dave talks about the people close to Benoit who have passed away - Hildebrand, Pillman, Black Cat, Victor Marr, Johnny Grunge, and Eddie. Dave says that Victor was Benoit's closest friend in Japan, but he didn't know how close they were until Chris told him. He also said that Grunge's family and Benoit's family were very close socially. The caller says that Benoit had lost a lot of friends at 40, and that's something that most people don't go through until their '80s. Dave never dealt with a death in his '30s and '40s unless they were wrestling-related. Hildebrand, Grunge, and Eddie were Benoit's support system, as were Dean, Chavo, and Jericho.

Dave says that he, Billy, and Bryan can see that he was a tortured man the past few years. Billy says that he asked his doctor about the needle marks, but they do in fact prescribe human growth hormone for their parents to inject their children, so it isn't an issue of Chris forcibly injecting his son. Billy says that one lesson here is that you think you know someone, but you really don't know anyone. Billy says that it's very telling that he's teach his son to just say "yes, maam" and "no, maam", and give up his seat shows how much he bonded with him. Billy says that Chris may have just been trying to spare his son the mockery and torture of children later in life.

A new caller joins the show, asking if Benoit was close to Davey Boy, and Dave says that he was. Benoit was very respectful toward the older wrestlers, like Davey, who was already a star when Benoit broke in. Dave says that Benoit would always seek Billy out, and Billy tells a story about Benoit having his phone off the hook for three days and apologizing to Valerie, leading to her say that he didn't have to do that. Billy says that he found it amazing how dedicated Benoit was to him and how much he admired him, given that they'd just met at Eddie's family. Billy brings up Mike Awesome hanging himself, and mentions that depression as a key there, and was likely one here. Billy shares a story about Daniel, where Chris told Nancy very sternly to watch Daniel, who was running around backstage in the catering area.

He asks if WWE is going to change its policies due to this, and Dave says that lots of suggestions have been made to Vince, and thinks that something, but isn't sure exactly what, will happen. He can see them hiring counselors for the wrestlers. Billy Graham shares a story about eating lunch with Animal, Animal's son, and Greg Valentine where they talked about Vince promoting entertainment, and wondered how the government can try to regulate an entertainment company. Dave thinks that they might rotate the schedule, where guys only work TV.

Billy says that since Vince has a full-blown wellness program, he should just start a psychological program, which Dave thinks will happen. Dave says that even the wrestlers he knew, even if they were troubled, and even if there was a psychologist on-call, they would view telling one as a sign of weakness. Bryan thinks that anonymity would be a key to it there.

Billy says that mental illness is laughed at in our society, and Dave says that maybe if a wrestler was going to be champion, and he saw the pychiatrist, they might think again about it and put the belt on someone else. Billy says that the very nature of the business is deception, and it would be a nightmare trying to put the belt on a guy while having to do an intense psychological background check on it.

A new caller is up with a two part question. Was there ever any backstage controversy about Benoit? Bryan says that there was, two weeks ago on ECW, he gave everyone a brow-beating after the match, and Dave says that his role in ECW was to teach them. Bryan says that if he was in Benoit's shoes, he probably would have done the same thing. The caller asks if they'll drop the Vince death angle, Dave says that they're going to have to. The angle was going to end up that Vince faked it. Billy brings up the Lita abortion as an angle that was a little too close to reality, and hopes that they go away from that, leading to them just trying to be entertaining again.
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That was an incredibly informative and emotion-filled show.

Edit - Here's the Wrestling Observer Live show tonight dealing with it, and featuring Superstar Billy Graham, Dave Meltzer, and Bryan Alvarez all sharing their thoughts and memories on Benoit and what might've lead to this. There's a lot of discussion about the mental problems Chris was dealing with, and on what the Bibles meant in all this.
http://www.sendspace.com/file/q449xd
 
Billy Graham is always an interesting one when in interviews. His DVD is excellent, but you really can tell he carries a lot of guilt and regret still to this day.

Interesting about the Vince limo angle too, was Meltzer suggesting the blow-off to the angle was going to be Vince admitting he faked his death, resulting in no one being responsible for the "who-dunnit?" angle... if so that's extra awful.
 
[quote name='lokizz']if he needs the money he will go back to wwe but if not i think he will join tna because of their lighter schedule and i think y2j lives in florida which is where tna is located and films.[/QUOTE]

Don't forget long-time friend Christian currently resides with TNA. I don't think TNA would be that much better with Jericho, but I'd love to see him as TNA champion, cluster-matches and all.

A sad realization, I once named Eddie, Benoit, Jericho, Lance Storm and Kurt Angle as my top 5, in that order. Sadly, two are gone now and only one is still wrestling, and I named this list in a little under four years ago (before Eddie & Benoit won their respective matches at WMXX). So much has changed in so little time.
 
[quote name='Zenithian Legend']Billy Graham is always an interesting one when in interviews. His DVD is excellent, but you really can tell he carries a lot of guilt and regret still to this day.

Interesting about the Vince limo angle too, was Meltzer suggesting the blow-off to the angle was going to be Vince admitting he faked his death, resulting in no one being responsible for the "who-dunnit?" angle... if so that's extra awful.[/QUOTE]

Well think about it, it's really the only viable solution. Vince was going nuts and as a result decided to fake his death to get away from it all, but *insert storyline here* brought him back. What else could have happened?

Also, as much as I would like to believe that Benoit was murdered, the situation as presented by the Reverend person is a bit too much. Although, I know for a fact that Satanists do live by the creed "you do me wrong and I'll pay you back a hundred times over" or something to that nature.
 
[quote name='Zenithian Legend']Interesting about the Vince limo angle too, was Meltzer suggesting the blow-off to the angle was going to be Vince admitting he faked his death, resulting in no one being responsible for the "who-dunnit?" angle... if so that's extra awful.[/QUOTE]"IT WAS ME ALL ALONG AUSTIN!!!!"[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qX-Mop6iyN8[/media]
 
[quote name='Zenithian Legend']Interesting about the Vince limo angle too, was Meltzer suggesting the blow-off to the angle was going to be Vince admitting he faked his death, resulting in no one being responsible for the "who-dunnit?" angle... if so that's extra awful.[/QUOTE]"IT WAS ME ALL ALONG AUSTIN!!!!"[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qX-Mop6iyN8[/media]
 
Looks like the thread is finally starting to slow down. I suppose it's been a week. Probably once the toxicology reports hit, it'll have another strong day, and then the topic will be done. I find this whole story facinating, I wonder how long until a true crime author picks the story up and writes a book.

I find the doctor getting picked up interesting. Sometimes, I feel society likes to punish someone to feel closure. Since Benoit offed himself, they can't get him. So, everyone wants to blame drugs, so they can get the doctor (who will be the real bad guy), and then someone is punished.

I'm not sure what the doctor did or not. But, unless he did something akin to gross incompetence, should the doctor really be punished. Benoit wanted to wrestle. He may have needed whatever drugs to do what he loved. Honestly, it really should have been Chris's decision. Now, I don't see how anyone saw this coming.
 
Steroids.

Feds: Benoit's steroid purchases were 'excessive'

ATLANTA, Georgia (AP) -- The pro wrestler who strangled his wife and son and committed suicide last month bought injectable steroids excessively, according to court papers.

Professional wrestler Chris Benoit killed his wife, child and himself, court papers say.
His doctor was charged Monday with improperly prescribing drugs to other patients.
Dr. Phil Astin prescribed a 10-month supply of anabolic steroids to Chris Benoit every three to four weeks between May 2006 and May 2007, a Drug Enforcement Administration agent said in an affidavit filed Friday and made public Monday.
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http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/07/03/wrestler.death.ap/index.html
 
One of the strange stories I've been hearing is that Daniel Benoit may not have had Fragile X syndrome after all.

Nancy's parents dispute that Daniel had any such condition, which is odd considering they were his grandparents and saw him regularly. Local authorities say they find no evidence of Fragile X in school documents. The woman who first made this claim about Daniel, Pam Winthrope, previously said that her late husband found out about it from Chris Benoit directly. Pro Wrestling Torch reports that Winthrope now says she doesn't know how her husband came to believe that Daniel had Fragile X.

Why is it that even something like this might not be resolved? :whistle2:?
 
[quote name='camoor']Steroids.



http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/07/03/wrestler.death.ap/index.html[/QUOTE]

What's interesting about this is not that Benoit had excessive amounts of steroids -- that was obvious from just looking at the man -- but that WWE claims that his most recent test (in April, I think) was "clean." Hmm. Kind of makes you wonder what "test" the WWE is running.

WWE official: Mr. Benoit, please give us a urine sample so that we can test for steroids.

Benoit: Is it alright if I take the container home and bring it back tomorrow?

WWE official: Exactly what we had in mind.
 
[quote name='sgs89']What's interesting about this is not that Benoit had excessive amounts of steroids -- that was obvious from just looking at the man -- but that WWE claims that his most recent test (in April, I think) was "clean." Hmm. Kind of makes you wonder what "test" the WWE is running.

WWE official: Mr. Benoit, please give us a urine sample so that we can test for steroids.

Benoit: Is it alright if I take the container home and bring it back tomorrow?

WWE official: Exactly what we had in mind.[/quote]
I think it's been mentioned by several news reports that WWE steroid testing has a huge loophole that allows for actual positive results to be officially changed to negative as long as the wrestler presents a "doctor's note" within the next 24 hours, presumably with no further investigations or consequences.
 
Read in the local paper today they were confiscating all signs with mention of Benoit at entrances to the WWE event here.

Plus more info about his name and pictures being completely gone from their website.
 
[quote name='rapsodist']I think it's been mentioned by several news reports that WWE steroid testing has a huge loophole that allows for actual positive results to be officially changed to negative as long as the wrestler presents a "doctor's note" within the next 24 hours, presumably with no further investigations or consequences.[/QUOTE]

Interesting. So, basically, you can take steroids indefinitely and then, just before your test (which, almost certainly is scheduled and not random), you can go to a "doctor," claim that your testosterone level is dropping (because you took steroids and then stopped), and get a prescription for same.

Either that, or you can just ask Dr. Scott Steiner for that "doctor's note."

Here's a link discussing the "testing" policy of the WWE: http://www.pwtorch.com/artman/publish/article_20779.shtml
 
[quote name='sgs89']Interesting. So, basically, you can take steroids indefinitely and then, just before your test (which, almost certainly is scheduled and not random), you can go to a "doctor," claim that your testosterone level is dropping (because you took steroids and then stopped), and get a prescription for same.

Either that, or you can just ask Dr. Scott Steiner for that "doctor's note."

Here's a link discussing the "testing" policy of the WWE: http://www.pwtorch.com/artman/publish/article_20779.shtml[/QUOTE]

It's not that kind of loophole - as long as they obtain prescriptions from starry-eyed physicians to obtain the steroids, they are as legal as, say, prescriptions for allergy medication (at least as far as WWE testing policy is concerned).

IIRC, WWE claimed last week that Benoit tested "clean" for steroids. "Clean" is an interesting choice of words, because it suggests no steroids turned up in his system, rather than he tested positive for steroids and 'verified' them with a prescription.

Simply put, for WWE testing, 'prescription' is the single 'loophole.' Vince McMahon was interviewed a few years back, during the peak of the baseball/steroid scandal (when Congress decided they wanted to investigate it :roll:); he said, rather frankly, that it was ok for wrestlers to take steroids. His argument was that, since wrestling is not competitive (since match outcomes are predetermined), there was no competitive advantage to be gained, nor any 'pure sport' violations to be made, if wrestlers did steroids. Of course, it's pure folly to think that doing steroids is unrelated to whether or not you end up on WWE programming to begin with; a cursory glance of their roster's physiques, and knowledge of the fact that even guys like Jamie Knoble were fired for steroid use in the past. Using steroids provides the advantage that takes you from indies to the big time, and from the bottom of the big time to the top of the big time. To say steroids provide no advantage is pure sleight of hand, but I'm sure McMahon knows that.
 
Interesting, they deleted all mentions of Benoit missing Vengeance due to family issues on the replay of the ECW main event on ECW tonight.
 
[quote name='CaseyRyback']Warrior is/was on Hannity and Colmes. I only watched a little and turned it off because he is such a joke.[/QUOTE]

I think he did a great job of presenting his viewpoints. Granted he was trying to deflect the steroid angle, but you could tell that potentially he was doing it out of conviction rather than to maintain amiable relations with the WWE.

Personally, I thought he trounced Hannity and Colmes and made them look like idiots. They ended up "playing the music", essentially forcing him to wrap up his sentence when he was in the middle of a great point.
 
[quote name='JJSP']http://nodq.com/wwe/185507786.shtml

According to the Observer, Benoit had recently taken out a new life insurance policy for himself, naming his ex-wife and two children as benefactors. Benoit also supposedly had started a new bank account in Edmonton in his ex-wife's name.[/QUOTE]

If true thats a little more sicking that means he was planning what he did all along.
 
I hope he rots in H#%^.The man was a coward.For all Of you who want to "remember" him as the actor in the WWE,and not the coward he was,is a joke.It will be a great day when vince joins him.I can go to both of the grave sites and P@** on them
 
I hope he rots in H@**,for what he did.And for anyone to want to remember him as the actor in the WWE is fooling themselves.When vince joins him,I can fly to both of there grave sites and P*** on them
 
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