Demon's Souls - Atlus & From Software's Action RPG - October 6

[quote name='io']Funny, to me the Mephistopheles quests seemed like a lot of trouble.

I think I killed 7 or 8 primeval demons and only once did I not get a colorless demon soul drop. And I have really low luck and never used the Large Sword of Searching.

Don't forget there's also one down below Miralda (in the locked area of 1-1), but that of course requires fighting either black phantom Miralda or the regular one (she attacks you either way).[/QUOTE]

In NG+ the quests are relatively easy, assuming you have Soulsucker. Every target on the list can be taken out with it, so it's a simple matter of getting them to stand up with a whack or two (so they stand up but aren't hostile) and then casting. It's a pretty easy way to get 2 Colorless per game, though of course you'll lose Biorr's help on the 1-3 boss.

The only thing I make sure of when I do the 1-1 Colorless also is that I'm not carrying many souls on me. One misstep and you're dead, and then you have to go again hoping you don't misstep. I've been a bit less lucky with Colorless. I've only gotten 2 out of 6 or 7 Primevals, though I really only needed the one for the specific miracle.
 
[quote name='OlDirtyBastard']You can always commit suicide in the nexus and just use emphyrical eyes at the boss fog if your that worried[/QUOTE]

Yeah, suiciding in the Nexus and then fighting bosses is how I got world 2 to PW. However, I'm not worried about dying in body form on the way to the boss in 3-2 (just a few gargoyles and one black phantom and you're there); I'm worried about dying in body form while fighting the boss.
 
This game is incredible. Best I've played in a long, long time. I'm about 15 hours in. Trying not to read much online about the game because a huge part of the enjoyment has been derived from how open and unknown the worlds are.
 
Damn Flamelurker is pissing me off.

This is probably one of my favorite games ever, and I've been playing games since pong.
 
I've got a question. I was a Meijer today and saw 5 copies of Demon Soul's with artwork and soundtrack for a regular price (59.99). Are these flippable? Just curious. I saw some going for around 90 on ebay. I just thought I'd ask some CAGs how rare they were.
 
[quote name='jughead']I've got a question. I was a Meijer today and saw 5 copies of Demon Soul's with artwork and soundtrack for a regular price (59.99). Are these flippable? Just curious. I saw some going for around 90 on ebay. I just thought I'd ask some CAGs how rare they were.[/QUOTE]

Ooops. Looks like those copies have the guide as well. I'd say that is the crucial element, right?
 
I'd say those are pretty darn worth it. The version you're talking about is the 'Deluxe' version, which was indeed a limited print. Heck, I just checked Amazon and the cheapest Deluxe there was a used copy for $109.
 
Definitely snatch up as many of those deluxe editions as you can. Those are hot commodities. If you go back for one, I'd be interested in buying the guide from you. PM me.
 
Strange. From what I gather, the DE has an artbook, soundtrack, guide and outer slip cover. These sets at Meijer were just the game with the guide and soundtrack shrunk-wrapped to the back of them.
 
[quote name='jughead']Strange. From what I gather, the DE has an artbook, soundtrack, guide and outer slip cover. These sets at Meijer were just the game with the guide and soundtrack shrunk-wrapped to the back of them.[/QUOTE]
Yes, there was an outer-shell, a rather sturdy box.
 
[quote name='porieux']Damn Flamelurker is pissing me off.

This is probably one of my favorite games ever, and I've been playing games since pong.[/QUOTE]

I love this game as well, also the flamelurker pissed me off as well. Whats your SL? I can probably help you out.

[quote name='Koggit']This game is incredible. Best I've played in a long, long time. I'm about 15 hours in. Trying not to read much online about the game because a huge part of the enjoyment has been derived from how open and unknown the worlds are.[/QUOTE]

How far into the game are you? Which worlds/levels you beaten?

[quote name='jughead']Ooops. Looks like those copies have the guide as well. I'd say that is the crucial element, right?[/QUOTE]

It is, buy as many as you can as mentioned before and flip em.
 
Sorry to cludder the game thread but I need to clarify, the copies at Meijer DID NOT have an outer shell or what appeared to be a guide. They were just the game with a thin booklet (artbook with cd inside) shrunkwrapped together.
 
[quote name='porieux']Damn Flamelurker is pissing me off.

This is probably one of my favorite games ever, and I've been playing games since pong.[/QUOTE]

Its funny how people always say they have a hard time with Flamelurker. I grinded a bunch of levels before I faced him, and by the time I did, I was around 50 and didn't have any problems with him.
 
[quote name='jughead']Sorry to cludder the game thread but I need to clarify, the copies at Meijer DID NOT have an outer shell or what appeared to be a guide. They were just the game with a thin booklet (artbook with cd inside) shrunkwrapped together.[/QUOTE]

In that case it just sounds like the standard version. All pre-orders and release copies were supposed to come with the artbook. Not sure how much you could fetch for the artbook, as the deluxe edition (guide + outer shell) is the rarity.
 


Brownjohn said:
Its funny how people always say they have a hard time with Flamelurker. I grinded a bunch of levels before I faced him, and by the time I did, I was around 50 and didn't have any problems with him.
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Yeah, I remember getting to SL 30 to take it on by grinding those bearbugs. After learning with experience, I can now take FL out at least SL 20-24 through melee. Its always a rush when FL goes into hyper mode and you have 1/4th life left. :boxing:
 
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Anyone else here hate World 5?

I was on a roll on beating stages until I thought about getting through 5-2. Then I said fuck it. Put down my control and will just do it another day.
 
There's just so much to hate about it, from the horrible amount of souls you get, to the movement-inhibiting/poisoning swamp, to those Giant Goblins that don't seem to get stunned by anything. I see why they put it in there, as each world has something of its own feel, but give me something like the face bug/tentacle area of 3-2 rather than the crap in 5-1/5-2.

The souls part particularly bugs me. Even on my eighth or so NG+ I only get 700 souls or so per Giant Goblin, and less than 100 per goblin. When farming Marrowstone, I would get maybe 9k souls in the span of 90 seconds (ran from the Leechmonger stone to the Dirty Colossus stone using the bridge shortcut killing mosquitoes along the way) whereas something like a Pure Bladestone run (Adjudicator archstone and kill first Reaper + hidden door Black Samurai) would give me upwards of 50-60k per 90 sec.
 
[quote name='ChibiJosh']Everyone hates world 5.[/QUOTE]

[quote name='option.iv']Anyone else here hate World 5?

I was on a roll on beating stages until I thought about getting through 5-2. Then I said fuck it. Put down my control and will just do it another day.[/QUOTE]

Yes I hate 5-1. Due to an encounter
with this old fat woman, talked to her, shortly after got backstabbed. I actually like world 3 better :drool:
 
if world 5 is the poison world, its tied with the tower world as my favorite.

the first world is standard castle-y stuff, the storm world is ruined castle-y stuff.

the mines are a little dull, though better than the castle-y levels, and the bosses are all awesome.

the tower is amazing, love all the bosses, the face suckers are super cool, the atmosphere of the prison, especially the first time you're in the world, makes you take everything slow and its kinda creepy.

the poison land is equally awesome, the leechmonger is one of my favorite bosses, but the real reason i like it is that you can blow through it quickly if you know where you're going, making it the most hassle free world, ie, good for getting lots of souls early on. the poison anti-rolling swamp was never an issue for me since the enemies you "have" to fight can be blocked with ease (those jelly fish things), and the other fights are easily avoided. since I usually start with the tower world after beating phlanx, the gloom armor makes the poison damage negligible, and there are anti poison flowers everywhere.
 
[quote name='Megiddo_CAG']I love this game as well, also the flamelurker pissed me off as well. Whats your SL? I can probably help you out.[/QUOTE]

I think I'm around 60 or so at this point. I kind of feel like I should be able to pull it off solo though or it kind of feels like a copout ;)

[quote name='Brownjohn']Its funny how people always say they have a hard time with Flamelurker. I grinded a bunch of levels before I faced him, and by the time I did, I was around 50 and didn't have any problems with him.[/QUOTE]

Hmm, well that's great for you. The problem I have is when he starts freaking out at 30% or so of HP. Not much room to move around in there and some of the times he's gotten me have felt a bit cheap.
 
I definitely hated world 5. Did anyone else notice a large amount of "I'm lost" messages there?

1-4 dragon is roasting me in 1 or 2 hits even when I'm using water veil and carrying the ring of flame resistance. I don't think I'll ever finish this game.
 
[quote name='porieux']I think I'm around 60 or so at this point. I kind of feel like I should be able to pull it off solo though or it kind of feels like a copout ;)[/QUOTE]

Hey thats cool! I wish you luck :cool: But if you change your mind, I love cooping with other cags!
 
I actually love World 5, the atmosphere and design are really unique. Plus, the boss fight against Astraea (Garland really) is so memorable to me because of the dialogue and the music. As for the enemies in the swamp, people should learn not to be provoking them until your on land. lol

[quote name='porieux']The problem I have is when he starts freaking out at 30% or so of HP. Not much room to move around in there and some of the times he's gotten me have felt a bit cheap.[/QUOTE]


Usually around that time, I use the pillars as buffers so that I can get a chance to get around him or heal.
 
[quote name='Megiddo_CAG']Hey thats cool! I wish you luck :cool: But if you change your mind, I love cooping with other cags![/QUOTE]

I would definitely like to try some coop! Feel free to add me. I actually have not tried any multiplayer yet, save from being invaded by BP a couple times.
 
[quote name='Megiddo_CAG']How far into the game are you? Which worlds/levels you beaten?[/QUOTE]

I'm kind of a low soul level (about 20) but only because I've spent most of my souls on equipment, grass, spells, miracles, arrows, etc. I've beaten:
Phalanx blob
Guy with huge shield
Robotic spider
Flamelurker

I think I might be missing one... was there a boss between the robotic spider and flamelurker? I don't quite remember. I've tried all of the worlds available to me. Of those I haven't beaten...

Tower of Latria -- this is where I'm at now. When I last played, I had just rescued Sage Freke.

Shrine of Storms -- I've gotten to the first boss (licking tongue guy) but haven't beaten him. Tried a few times, decided to try again later.

Level with the poison rats -- Didn't even get to the boss, the furthest I got was to where there are three poisonous beatle-pods on a platform... I tried to kill all three *before* curing my poison, ended up dying as my character put the remedy in his mouth. That alone was demoralizing enough to (temporarily) give up. I have waaaay higher poison resistance now than I did when I first tried, though... I had
 
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For Flamelurker, use the ribcage on the left as a barrier between the two of you. Wait until he's not attacking you and peek out for a quick arrow, or shoot spells through the rib cage. When he goes around it to kill you, move to the other side.
 
Well, my char is about level 59 or so. If someone is up to help me out on 5-2, I sure would love that. Unfortunately, my character is a BBS build, so he has low life so far, and no real offense. I just hate fighting those fucking giant goblins when I have no where to really run around and dodge.

And Koggit, I suggest beating 4-1 ASAP. You can easily start farming for souls at the beginning of 4-2. All you need is a bow and arrows, and you can net 4,500+ souls around a minute's time. And if you get a Ring of Avarice (can be bought 3-1 or acquired in 3-2) and/or Silver Bracelet (if female), it'll bump up that amount even further.
 
Last night: major success and failures

Beat the 4-3 giant manta thing finally. I did this primarily to get at those next set of gecko. I keep killing every other worlds gecko's with ease but I cant seem to kill the only ones I care about in 4-* for the pure darkmoon. I ran up on the nest of two and they both got away. Then I tried the one on the cliff and it ran too.

I so wish I would have lvled strength for my Royal early on. I am constantly finding areas where a bow would come in handly but I sink all my souls into magic which cant be shot that far with accuracy.

I beat the 1-3 boss penetrator or something like that. I then died right after that to the three dark phantoms and one more guy who invaded then I died right after that and lost 79k souls. YA! that sucked. I got to the blue dragon 4 times and took him down to half health with magic doing 101 dmg per hit, which took forever. But when he goes up to the other building I died each time just trying to reach him. Really sucks! I so wish I had lvled strength to 30 to use this white bow.

I tried doing this trick where you use the agro ring and then let the npc kill the dragon with his 3-5dmg by leaving your system on all night. Woke up this morning to find that I forgot I had the auto power off thing on. -damn

Whats killing me is my lack of strength for the bow but now I am thinking if I can just get through this one thing I wont need it any way except for those damn geckos I keep missing. Those geckos in 4-2, 4-3 are aweful, I seem to kill all others with ease but I cant even seem to catch these guys with the thief ring on.


Oh and I found the witch so I am on my way to getting that awesome firestorm spell.
 
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[quote name='porieux']I would definitely like to try some coop! Feel free to add me. I actually have not tried any multiplayer yet, save from being invaded by BP a couple times.[/QUOTE]

I'll probably be playing tonight and I'd love to help you take down Flamelurker if you want. I'm around level 53 so summoning should be no problem. PM me and we'll coordinate a time if you're interested (I've never co-oped with someone intentionally, just random people, so would be really cool).
 
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[quote name='BREVITY']
I so wish I would have lvled strength for my Royal early on. I am constantly finding areas where a bow would come in handly but I sink all my souls into magic which cant be shot that far with accuracy.

Whats killing me is my lack of strength for the bow but now I am thinking if I can just get through this one thing I wont need it any way except for those damn geckos I keep missing. Those geckos in 4-2, 4-3 are aweful, I seem to kill all others with ease but I cant even seem to catch these guys with the thief ring on.
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I leveled my strength to 15 just now so that I could at least use the long bow (currently at +3). Not enough for the uber-bows (lava, white, etc) but at least it's a bow for areas where it will come in handy. Also a little more strength means you can use some axes, spears, hammers, etc instead of just the crappy rapier.

Also, I hear you on the geckos. I hate that every time one gets away, I know it's one less chance to get that one permanently, since they only respawn a few times. I didn't even know that until recently, so I'm sure I screwed up tons of them earlier where I just let them run away without even trying to kill them.
 
[quote name='Supplice']I read so many methods such as these, but where is the fun in them? =|[/QUOTE]
The fun is in outsmarting your opponent, not in standing toe to toe with him, for me, at least. My first playthrough I was 100% melee. I already stood toe to toe with each enemy, and after trial and error, emerged victorious. After that I found it more enjoyable to outwit them, and use the environments to my advantage.
 
Finally got my fill of invading after developing my new PVP build and helping others in some areas. I prefer dueling, but I have not finished the game with my new build to receive my red stone so invading would have to suffice as a testing platform.

 
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Alright just started playing again after getting my PS3 back from repairs for the second time since early November. There is no way to back up your save file (not even by using system restore) so I had to start over from the level 58 I had back then. Luckily a friend of mine just got into it recently so we both started new characters 2 days ago and played through the levels together (beating each one twice) and we're already over level 40 and have beaten half the game. Also not eating the boss souls like a jackass and getting to use meat clever has made it more fun.

And I'm getting my scraping spear ready for you, supplice. And yes after I hit you 4 or 5 times or if I think there is any chance of dying I will probably disconnect. It's just my way.
 
[quote name='BREVITY']
I so wish I would have lvled strength for my Royal early on. I am constantly finding areas where a bow would come in handly but I sink all my souls into magic which cant be shot that far with accuracy.
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I just read something that might help. Bows are always used two-handed, so for a bow that requires 15 stength (e.g. Long Bow) you actually only need 10 strength, since wielding two-handed gives you a 50% bonus.

I wish I would have read that (or realized it) before getting my strength up to 15 on my magic-user. Oh, well. Now I guess I can use the compound long bow since it requires 22 strength. Too bad I also already upgraded my regular long bow to +3.
 
Just killed the first Demon. Pretty solid game so far, enjoying it a lot. If I were wanting to play as a hybrid class tank/caster is Knight a decent choice? It was between the Hunter and Knight and I went w/ the plate class for a more pre-cautious method to my madness on my first char. =]

I read up on the wikidot page to help determine how I'd make and play my first char.
 
It's been mentioned numerous times in thread already, but class is mainly for backstory purposes and only affects the very beginning of the game, which you've pretty much passed. Once you get SL10 in Magic you can hybrid out any class if you want, but eventually you'll end up leveling all stats.
 
[quote name='Backlash']I just read something that might help. Bows are always used two-handed, so for a bow that requires 15 stength (e.g. Long Bow) you actually only need 10 strength, since wielding two-handed gives you a 50% bonus.

I wish I would have read that (or realized it) before getting my strength up to 15 on my magic-user. Oh, well. Now I guess I can use the compound long bow since it requires 22 strength. Too bad I also already upgraded my regular long bow to +3.[/QUOTE]

Oh really!?? I am going to run home and test this tonight. /Excited
 
You're going to level up all stats eventually, so you might as well get up those minimum requirements to get the most out of the equipment, especially if you're going to spend the souls needed to upgrade your bow.
 
[quote name='notwen']Just killed the first Demon. Pretty solid game so far, enjoying it a lot. If I were wanting to play as a hybrid class tank/caster is Knight a decent choice? It was between the Hunter and Knight and I went w/ the plate class for a more pre-cautious method to my madness on my first char. =]

I read up on the wikidot page to help determine how I'd make and play my first char.[/QUOTE]
The most efficient class in terms of stat usage is a Faith-based one. Magic is also decent.

The reason for this is that spending points in strength and dexterity offer you no real benefit (decreased fall damage, hooboy!) other than to increase your weapon damage. Faith increases your magic defense and miracle strength in addition to increasing the damage on a "Blessed" weapon. Magic increases your spell casting power and weapon damage on a "Crescent" weapon.

So, spending points in faith or magic does the same thing as spending points on strength or dexterity for the right weapon, and they also provide other benefits where str and dex provide none worth noting.

Of course you'll still want vitality and endurance, and if you're going the magic route (and faith to some extent) you'll need a few points in Intelligence to get your MP up/get more magic slots. Your gear will need a few points in strength and possibly dexterity, just don't make those stats your focus.
 
I'm primarily a magic user, soul level 35ish and my strength is 22 (it was the first stat I raised, after finding a Purple Flame Shield in the first world). I'm glad I did, that shield rocks and my magic is still pretty powerful. It seems like to me there's no wrong way to build your char, all the stats are pretty useful.
 
I just got my Morion blade, yet to test it for the bonus without meeting requirements.

I was wondering if anyone had any tips for getting to
 
[quote name='option.iv']I just got my Morion blade, yet to test it for the bonus without meeting requirements.

I was wondering if anyone had any tips for getting to
 
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