Destructoid Reports MGS4 is coming to 360 in 2008
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I like how he thinks it won't happen...because truth be told money drives everything. Everyone has talked about how costs are skyrocketing and I would think MGS4 would be on the higher end of the spectrum. Either it's going multiplatform or Sony is going to pay a boatload to keep it on the PS3 only.
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[quote name='bortle']They discussed it on 1up radio. They guessed it probably would eventually happen because MGS4's development costs are significantlly higher than most games.[/QUOTE]
This is actually something I've been saying for a while. Next gen games are just WAY too expensive to produce, to hope there are enough users on one console to buy it. This is why I think within a year you will see pretty much every game that isn't first party go to both systems.
This is actually something I've been saying for a while. Next gen games are just WAY too expensive to produce, to hope there are enough users on one console to buy it. This is why I think within a year you will see pretty much every game that isn't first party go to both systems.
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It would be great if it did appear on the 360 at some point.. it'd be a relief.
I don't really care how long it takes, since I have no plans to ever buy a PS3.. I just wanna play that damn game.
I don't really care how long it takes, since I have no plans to ever buy a PS3.. I just wanna play that damn game.
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[quote name='pinoy530']You don't exactly know your history either. MGS1 already had VR missions in it. The MGS VR Missions that came out later was merely just brand new VR missions, it did not have MGS1 in it. MGS2 substance came out 1 1/2 years after Sons of Liberty and was not value priced. It was the full blown $49.99 whlie Sons of Liberty was Greatest Hits at $19.99. Which is part of the reason why substance's ps2 value held over the years. MGS3 subsistence was also released 1 1/2 years later, although discounted, 18 months is still a pretty long time to wait to play a game. Not to mention that you would have already heard about spoilers by then, I mean Kojima wanted you to be surprised about Raiden or how would you feel if you knew Aeris would die in FF7.[/QUOTE]
Check again.
-MGS1 was re-released in Japan, and given extra modes to beef up its perceived value.... these were the VR Missions. When VR Missions came out as a standalone in the US, it was priced as a full game but really was only the pack-in disc from the game's re-release.
So, price to American gamers who wanted to play the whole game, and reward the developer by buying it new:
$50 for MGS1
$50(?) for VR Missions, and you don't even get the re-released game.
Total: $100
-MGS2: Substance came out 1 year after MGS2.
MGS2 release date: US: November 13, 2001
MGS2 Substance release date (XBox): US: November 5, 2002
So, price for early adopters:
MGS2: $50
MGS2 Substance: $50
Total: $100
Even if I was wrong about the dates (I wasn't), how does this change the "Substance" of my argument? My argument was that if you want the full game, you'll have to wait at least a year, at which point you'll either be buying it for the second time or have curbed your MGS apetite for awhile. I think Kojima is sticking it to his fans, because he charges full price for the "early" version of the game, and then charges full price again for an "enhanced" version of the game.
I'll say it again. MGS4 WILL have an updated version of the game available a year after initial release. If you want to get the full game, then I'd recommend waiting the year, because if you rush out and buy the game the first time around, and then go buy the updated one, you're just helping to encourage this nonsense.
Check again.
-MGS1 was re-released in Japan, and given extra modes to beef up its perceived value.... these were the VR Missions. When VR Missions came out as a standalone in the US, it was priced as a full game but really was only the pack-in disc from the game's re-release.
So, price to American gamers who wanted to play the whole game, and reward the developer by buying it new:
$50 for MGS1
$50(?) for VR Missions, and you don't even get the re-released game.
Total: $100
-MGS2: Substance came out 1 year after MGS2.
MGS2 release date: US: November 13, 2001
MGS2 Substance release date (XBox): US: November 5, 2002
So, price for early adopters:
MGS2: $50
MGS2 Substance: $50
Total: $100
Even if I was wrong about the dates (I wasn't), how does this change the "Substance" of my argument? My argument was that if you want the full game, you'll have to wait at least a year, at which point you'll either be buying it for the second time or have curbed your MGS apetite for awhile. I think Kojima is sticking it to his fans, because he charges full price for the "early" version of the game, and then charges full price again for an "enhanced" version of the game.
I'll say it again. MGS4 WILL have an updated version of the game available a year after initial release. If you want to get the full game, then I'd recommend waiting the year, because if you rush out and buy the game the first time around, and then go buy the updated one, you're just helping to encourage this nonsense.
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If this rumor does indeed happen it will not doom the PS3. Sony still has an army of loyal fanboys. The only console sales Sony may lose are from the fraction of gamers that were going to purchase a PS3 only for this game - the hardcore Metal Gear fanboys.
Even then, those gamers may still decide to purchase a PS3 if they don't already own a 360 since the game was originally developed and optimized with the PS3 in mind.
If this rumor does happen it's true it will hurt Sony's sales somewhat, but it's certainly not a console-killer. You'd be foolish if you think it would be.
Even then, those gamers may still decide to purchase a PS3 if they don't already own a 360 since the game was originally developed and optimized with the PS3 in mind.
If this rumor does happen it's true it will hurt Sony's sales somewhat, but it's certainly not a console-killer. You'd be foolish if you think it would be.
[quote name='the ender']When will you people wake up?
Nothing is going to kill the PS3. NOTHING.
That's not to say that I like the PS3, or even plan to buy one. But the fact remains that Sony is going to sell a
ing shitload of these things.[/QUOTE]
If your definition of "killing" the PS3 is having Sony drop out of gaming hardware, then you're probably right. However, Sony could easy drop from the highest market penitration to second or third. Any loss in market share is a loss for Sony.
They'll sell a ton at launch, but demand may not hold out. Microsoft sold a ton of 360s for months, and now demand is slowing significantly - they just cut sales forecasts this past week.
Sony is not invulnerable, even though they seem to think so. And, unlike the PS2, developers aren't as sure that Sony will come out on top. PS3 will not be the self-fulfilling prophecy that the PS2 was.
Nothing is going to kill the PS3. NOTHING.
That's not to say that I like the PS3, or even plan to buy one. But the fact remains that Sony is going to sell a
ing shitload of these things.[/QUOTE]If your definition of "killing" the PS3 is having Sony drop out of gaming hardware, then you're probably right. However, Sony could easy drop from the highest market penitration to second or third. Any loss in market share is a loss for Sony.
They'll sell a ton at launch, but demand may not hold out. Microsoft sold a ton of 360s for months, and now demand is slowing significantly - they just cut sales forecasts this past week.
Sony is not invulnerable, even though they seem to think so. And, unlike the PS2, developers aren't as sure that Sony will come out on top. PS3 will not be the self-fulfilling prophecy that the PS2 was.
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[quote name='jkam']I like how he thinks it won't happen...because truth be told money drives everything. Everyone has talked about how costs are skyrocketing and I would think MGS4 would be on the higher end of the spectrum. Either it's going multiplatform or Sony is going to pay a boatload to keep it on the PS3 only.[/QUOTE]
The point he was making seems to be that (and you seem to hint at this a bit), the money's going to make the decision, not alliances. If Sony ponys up, it'll stay a PS3 exclusive; if Sony can exceed their console production estimates, it may stay exclusive without any incentives; if neither of those happen, they'll have to look at the 360 as a means of recouping the cost of making this game.
This post also reminded me that Iin' hated Che Chou; he was just a perpetual bitch in his reviews, and something about his photographs in EGM conveyed this smugness that just screamed "hit me with your Buick."
The point he was making seems to be that (and you seem to hint at this a bit), the money's going to make the decision, not alliances. If Sony ponys up, it'll stay a PS3 exclusive; if Sony can exceed their console production estimates, it may stay exclusive without any incentives; if neither of those happen, they'll have to look at the 360 as a means of recouping the cost of making this game.
This post also reminded me that I
in' hated Che Chou; he was just a perpetual bitch in his reviews, and something about his photographs in EGM conveyed this smugness that just screamed "hit me with your Buick."
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It would be cool to have a version of MGS on the 360, but then again the last time I played MGS was 5 years ago
[quote name='alongx']If your definition of "killing" the PS3 is having Sony drop out of gaming hardware, then you're probably right. However, Sony could easy drop from the highest market penitration to second or third. Any loss in market share is a loss for Sony.
They'll sell a ton at launch, but demand may not hold out. Microsoft sold a ton of 360s for months, and now demand is slowing significantly - they just cut sales forecasts this past week.
Sony is not invulnerable, even though they seem to think so. And, unlike the PS2, developers aren't as sure that Sony will come out on top. PS3 will not be the self-fulfilling prophecy that the PS2 was.[/quote]
I am not implying that Sony is invulnerable at all. But before long, the initial shock of the $600 price tag will wear off (it has already begun). A few months after the release of the PS3 and the X360 HD-DVD drive, people will begin to see that these systems cost exactly the same, and that Sony actually offers a little more with a larger hard drive, built in wifi, a memory card reader, and a free online service.
When this happens, it will come down solely to the games available on each system. Some of the big titles have become cross-console, but there are still quite a few system exclusives that Sony possesses. And the X360 doesn't have near as many exclusives to offer.
Also, while I hate to admit it, Sony will sell hundreds of thousands of systems based upon the Playstation name alone. I myself own a 360, and plan to become a faithful subscriber to the "Wii60" mantra come November. Still, I can't deny that Sony is a frickin' Brahma Bull that won't be derailed this generation. If they pull more dumb shit next gen, then yea, they'll be hurting. But this time around, I think they will do just fine.
They'll sell a ton at launch, but demand may not hold out. Microsoft sold a ton of 360s for months, and now demand is slowing significantly - they just cut sales forecasts this past week.
Sony is not invulnerable, even though they seem to think so. And, unlike the PS2, developers aren't as sure that Sony will come out on top. PS3 will not be the self-fulfilling prophecy that the PS2 was.[/quote]
I am not implying that Sony is invulnerable at all. But before long, the initial shock of the $600 price tag will wear off (it has already begun). A few months after the release of the PS3 and the X360 HD-DVD drive, people will begin to see that these systems cost exactly the same, and that Sony actually offers a little more with a larger hard drive, built in wifi, a memory card reader, and a free online service.
When this happens, it will come down solely to the games available on each system. Some of the big titles have become cross-console, but there are still quite a few system exclusives that Sony possesses. And the X360 doesn't have near as many exclusives to offer.
Also, while I hate to admit it, Sony will sell hundreds of thousands of systems based upon the Playstation name alone. I myself own a 360, and plan to become a faithful subscriber to the "Wii60" mantra come November. Still, I can't deny that Sony is a frickin' Brahma Bull that won't be derailed this generation. If they pull more dumb shit next gen, then yea, they'll be hurting. But this time around, I think they will do just fine.
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I don't see how the shock of the price tag has gone down since the console has yet to launch; unless you're basing your analysis on the generally reported fact that most pre-orders are spoken for.
Oh, and the optional (keyword there) $200 HD-DVD drive does not make the 360 and the PS3 cost the same, contrary to your belief.
I don't see how the shock of the price tag has gone down since the console has yet to launch; unless you're basing your analysis on the generally reported fact that most pre-orders are spoken for.
Oh, and the optional (keyword there) $200 HD-DVD drive does not make the 360 and the PS3 cost the same, contrary to your belief.
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Oh, and the optional (keyword there) $200 HD-DVD drive does not make the 360 and the PS3 cost the same, contrary to your belief.[/QUOTE]
FTW. Optional.
Oh, and the optional (keyword there) $200 HD-DVD drive does not make the 360 and the PS3 cost the same, contrary to your belief.[/QUOTE]
FTW. Optional.
Historically, it takes successful console manufacturers several generations to "die off." Sega's death began with the Saturn but didn't become final until the Dreamcast. Atari's death began with the 5400 but didn't become final until the Jaguar.
Notice how I am talking about SUCCESSFUL console manufacturers and not the ghetto start ups that didn't make it.
That being said, Sony is well on its way to the grave but they still have time to renew their efforts and fight back.
Notice how I am talking about SUCCESSFUL console manufacturers and not the ghetto start ups that didn't make it.
That being said, Sony is well on its way to the grave but they still have time to renew their efforts and fight back.
[quote name='daphatty']Historically, it takes successful console manufacturers several generations to "die off." Sega's death began with the Saturn Sega CD but didn't become final until the Dreamcast. Atari's death began with the 5400 5200 but didn't become final until the Jaguar.[/QUOTE]
Fixed. And god damn I loved the 5200.
Fixed. And god damn I loved the 5200.
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Tekken, VF, MGS4 and Devil May Cry 4 are the only reasons I want to own a PS3 in It's first year to year and a half life span. If you can remove 25% of my want to get a PS3 (and possibly more if any of those titles get pushed into late 2007/2008) thats a pretty deciding factor for me, and I'm sure for many other people who can't afford a PS3/want one in the near future
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[quote name='Kendal']I can't wait to watch MGS4 on my 360...if this comes to fruition.[/QUOTE]
Yeah it will be an awesome $60 movie.
Yeah it will be an awesome $60 movie.
[quote name='captainfrizo']^ ^ ^
I don't see how the shock of the price tag has gone down since the console has yet to launch; unless you're basing your analysis on the generally reported fact that most pre-orders are spoken for.
Oh, and the optional (keyword there) $200 HD-DVD drive does not make the 360 and the PS3 cost the same, contrary to your belief.[/quote]
The shock has gone down because we've known for a while now. It's inevitable. "Time heals all wounds" and all that. Also, people are beginning to realize that the BR players cost much more than the PS3 which has one included.
I understand that the HD-DVD player is optional. But if you want to experience the "next level" of HD movies, then you'll need to either buy the 360 HD-DVD expansion (if you own a 360), buy a PS3, or pay much more for a standalone unit. For these people who desire that movie experience, the 360 and PS3 cost the same.
Don't be a smartass. We're talking about game systems here. Put down the gun.
I don't see how the shock of the price tag has gone down since the console has yet to launch; unless you're basing your analysis on the generally reported fact that most pre-orders are spoken for.
Oh, and the optional (keyword there) $200 HD-DVD drive does not make the 360 and the PS3 cost the same, contrary to your belief.[/quote]
The shock has gone down because we've known for a while now. It's inevitable. "Time heals all wounds" and all that. Also, people are beginning to realize that the BR players cost much more than the PS3 which has one included.
I understand that the HD-DVD player is optional. But if you want to experience the "next level" of HD movies, then you'll need to either buy the 360 HD-DVD expansion (if you own a 360), buy a PS3, or pay much more for a standalone unit. For these people who desire that movie experience, the 360 and PS3 cost the same.
Don't be a smartass. We're talking about game systems here. Put down the gun.
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[quote name='the ender']I am not implying that Sony is invulnerable at all. But before long, the initial shock of the $600 price tag will wear off (it has already begun). [/QUOTE]
Where?
On teh interweb? No.
On teh reallife? No.
The only people who belive the $600 pricetag is acceptable in any way, shape, or form believed so from the very moment it was announced.
As for BR, if steaming piles of shit were suddenly priced at $1,000 a pile, does that mean that being sold one for $600 is a steal? Until Sony shows us otherwise, BR is a non-factor.
The only thing people got over was Genji 2. It went from a hilarious screwup, to a game no one cares about, Giant Enemy Crabs be damned.
As for this whole MGS4 topic, I personally believe it's just a ruse. Probably an extended preview for the game where they interview Kojima and he confirms that it won't be coming to 360.
Even if the rumor were true, MGS4 doesn't have the same pull that MGS2 did with PS2. It's over huge in europe nations, but sales in both the US and Japan are lackluster (for the series, based off MGS3). The only game that'll have an international impact will be FFXIII, maybe.
Where?
On teh interweb? No.
On teh reallife? No.
The only people who belive the $600 pricetag is acceptable in any way, shape, or form believed so from the very moment it was announced.
As for BR, if steaming piles of shit were suddenly priced at $1,000 a pile, does that mean that being sold one for $600 is a steal? Until Sony shows us otherwise, BR is a non-factor.
The only thing people got over was Genji 2. It went from a hilarious screwup, to a game no one cares about, Giant Enemy Crabs be damned.
As for this whole MGS4 topic, I personally believe it's just a ruse. Probably an extended preview for the game where they interview Kojima and he confirms that it won't be coming to 360.
Even if the rumor were true, MGS4 doesn't have the same pull that MGS2 did with PS2. It's over huge in europe nations, but sales in both the US and Japan are lackluster (for the series, based off MGS3). The only game that'll have an international impact will be FFXIII, maybe.
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$1500-2000 for a ps3 preorder on ebay. hmmm....was there shock to begin with or was an intarnet/game journalist conspiracy?
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Wow, this thread is already promoting the demise of the PS3 and the fall of Sony. And all you ing saw is a PICTURE of a MAGAZINE COVER that says in little writing in the TOP CORNER, "MGS4 for 360?"
You'll probably get that mag and it will say, "Kojima said it would be possible to run MGS4 on the 360". Woopie-doo we knew that.
ing saw is a PICTURE of a MAGAZINE COVER that says in little writing in the TOP CORNER, "MGS4 for 360?" You'll probably get that mag and it will say, "Kojima said it would be possible to run MGS4 on the 360". Woopie-doo we knew that.
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[quote name='DarkNessBear']Wow, this thread is already promoting the demise of the PS3 and the fall of Sony. [/QUOTE]
Nearly every thread devolves into that somehow. Even on the PS3 forums.
Nearly every thread devolves into that somehow. Even on the PS3 forums.
[quote name='Apossum']$1500-2000 for a ps3 preorder on ebay. hmmm....was there shock to begin with or was an intarnet/game journalist conspiracy?[/QUOTE]
That is in no way indicative of the general public being receptive of a $600 price tag for a game console. I'd say the people buying those are extremely wealthy early adopters, as you can remember, 360's were going for $1000-$1500 this time last year. I highly doubt the general public even knows how much a PS3 is going to cost right now. Every single one of my "casual gamer" friends, a.k.a. the guys that play pretty much nothing but Madden have no idea. They know that I have a 360, and on numerous occasions they've told me they'll be getting a PS3 because of how superior it will be graphically to the 360. They are shocked when I inform them that the damn thing is going to run them $600+. These are the same guys who still haven't bought a 360 because $400 is too much, and they aren't exactly poor.
That is in no way indicative of the general public being receptive of a $600 price tag for a game console. I'd say the people buying those are extremely wealthy early adopters, as you can remember, 360's were going for $1000-$1500 this time last year. I highly doubt the general public even knows how much a PS3 is going to cost right now. Every single one of my "casual gamer" friends, a.k.a. the guys that play pretty much nothing but Madden have no idea. They know that I have a 360, and on numerous occasions they've told me they'll be getting a PS3 because of how superior it will be graphically to the 360. They are shocked when I inform them that the damn thing is going to run them $600+. These are the same guys who still haven't bought a 360 because $400 is too much, and they aren't exactly poor.
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in this day and age, it most definitely is (at least, it's a lot more indicative than what a couple of your friends think, no offense
) for one thing, it'll help drive up the demand. there will be news stories on it, people will see how much it costs on ebay and talk about it. the ps3 is going to be the coveted hot item this christmas, just like the 360 was last year. except Playstation brand recognition is even more widespread than Xbox. I'm guessing it'll be worse than the 360, but hopefully they'll be able to meet demand earlier than MS could
and as for the price-- credit. people spend all kinds of money they don't have. 65% of the U.S. is in debt by a couple grand :lol:
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[quote name='gofishn']That is in no way indicative of the general public being receptive of a $600 price tag for a game console. I'd say the people buying those are extremely wealthy early adopters, as you can remember, 360's were going for $1000-$1500 this time last year. I highly doubt the general public even knows how much a PS3 is going to cost right now. Every single one of my "casual gamer" friends, a.k.a. the guys that play pretty much nothing but Madden have no idea. They know that I have a 360, and on numerous occasions they've told me they'll be getting a PS3 because of how superior it will be graphically to the 360. They are shocked when I inform them that the damn thing is going to run them $600+. These are the same guys who still haven't bought a 360 because $400 is too much, and they aren't exactly poor.[/QUOTE]
haha! We must have a lot of the same friends.
haha! We must have a lot of the same friends.
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[quote name='DarkNessBear']Wow, this thread is already promoting the demise of the PS3 and the fall of Sony. And all you ing saw is a PICTURE of a MAGAZINE COVER that says in little writing in the TOP CORNER, "MGS4 for 360?"
You'll probably get that mag and it will say, "Kojima said it would be possible to run MGS4 on the 360". Woopie-doo we knew that.[/QUOTE]
While what you say is true, the thread has become less about whether or not MGS4 will come to the 360, but more about what exactly (if anything) can bring Sony down?
ing saw is a PICTURE of a MAGAZINE COVER that says in little writing in the TOP CORNER, "MGS4 for 360?" You'll probably get that mag and it will say, "Kojima said it would be possible to run MGS4 on the 360". Woopie-doo we knew that.[/QUOTE]
While what you say is true, the thread has become less about whether or not MGS4 will come to the 360, but more about what exactly (if anything) can bring Sony down?
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"Yes, PS deserves to die, and I hope they burn in HELL!"
I hope MGS4 does come out for 360. I've since lost interest in MGS so I won't buy it. But I just hate the PS3 and I don't need a reason. Much like how someone cheers and encourages their own home state sports team and hurls bad luck and discouragement at the other team just for the sake of "because".
...much like how I'll be rained down with heavy blows soon...
I hope MGS4 does come out for 360. I've since lost interest in MGS so I won't buy it. But I just hate the PS3 and I don't need a reason. Much like how someone cheers and encourages their own home state sports team and hurls bad luck and discouragement at the other team just for the sake of "because".
...much like how I'll be rained down with heavy blows soon...
I doubt any MGS will be a 360 exclusive, but with the game costing millions of dollars to make, I'm sure Konami will push to have it on the 360. The PS3 isn't going to have the install base to support a game costing as much a MGS4 for at least a few years.
I'm betting it'll be a "timed exclusive" for the PS3, with the 360 getting a version down the road, maybe 6 months after the fact.
I'm betting it'll be a "timed exclusive" for the PS3, with the 360 getting a version down the road, maybe 6 months after the fact.
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[quote name='62t']While MGS3 is a great game, it didnt do great sales wise. MGS is just not going to make a huge difference among mainstream gamers like GTA.[/quote]
Yah. MGS2 was the high point in the whole series (assuming, since I haven't beaten MG, MG2, and MG Acid) and should've ended on MGS3, which wouldn't have been a good ending. Kojima could've spawned his own original projects. Imagine if Kojima attempted to make a super realistic ninja stealth game! Splinter Cell/Tenchu pwned!
But no. People rather eat McGames.
Yah. MGS2 was the high point in the whole series (assuming, since I haven't beaten MG, MG2, and MG Acid) and should've ended on MGS3, which wouldn't have been a good ending. Kojima could've spawned his own original projects. Imagine if Kojima attempted to make a super realistic ninja stealth game! Splinter Cell/Tenchu pwned!
But no. People rather eat McGames.
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[quote name='nintendokid']Yah. MGS2 was the high point in the whole series [/QUOTE]
that's hilarious.
that's hilarious.
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[quote name='Apossum']in this day and age, it most definitely is (at least, it's a lot more indicative than what a couple of your friends think, no offense ) for one thing, it'll help drive up the demand. there will be news stories on it, people will see how much it costs on ebay and talk about it.
the ps3 is going to be the coveted hot item this christmas, just like the 360 was last year. except Playstation brand recognition is even more widespread than Xbox. I'm guessing it'll be worse than the 360, but hopefully they'll be able to meet demand earlier than MS could
and as for the price-- credit. people spend all kinds of money they don't have. 65% of the U.S. is in debt by a couple grand :lol:[/QUOTE]
Still doesn't change any thing, the PS3 isn't worth $600 and people know that.
It's not the coveted hot item this year, that honor was bestowed upon the Wii. TRUs said so, and these are the people in charge of telling the US exactly what they will buy.
) for one thing, it'll help drive up the demand. there will be news stories on it, people will see how much it costs on ebay and talk about it. the ps3 is going to be the coveted hot item this christmas, just like the 360 was last year. except Playstation brand recognition is even more widespread than Xbox. I'm guessing it'll be worse than the 360, but hopefully they'll be able to meet demand earlier than MS could
and as for the price-- credit. people spend all kinds of money they don't have. 65% of the U.S. is in debt by a couple grand :lol:[/QUOTE]
Still doesn't change any thing, the PS3 isn't worth $600 and people know that.
It's not the coveted hot item this year, that honor was bestowed upon the Wii. TRUs said so, and these are the people in charge of telling the US exactly what they will buy.
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[quote name='-Never4ever-']Still doesn't change any thing, the PS3 isn't worth $600 and people know that.
It's not the coveted hot item this year, that honor was bestowed upon the Wii. TRUs said so, and these are the people in charge of telling the US exactly what they will buy.[/QUOTE]
nobody knows that besides some tech junkies, forum goers and game journalists i.e. people no one listens to. Just look at the 360 last year...rguably not worth it and even amid tons of reports of the systems breaking, it still fetched way above MSRP on ebay after Xmas.
the difference is that this has "better graphics than the 360" going for it and that'll be the phrase on everyone's tongue.
coveted as in no one can get it and everyone wants it. everyone will be able to get a wii.
it's all speculation, but I think it'll take more than 1 gen to dethrone Sony. I think the hype machine will easily be as big as the 360 and probably bigger.
It's not the coveted hot item this year, that honor was bestowed upon the Wii. TRUs said so, and these are the people in charge of telling the US exactly what they will buy.[/QUOTE]
nobody knows that besides some tech junkies, forum goers and game journalists i.e. people no one listens to. Just look at the 360 last year...rguably not worth it and even amid tons of reports of the systems breaking, it still fetched way above MSRP on ebay after Xmas.
the difference is that this has "better graphics than the 360" going for it and that'll be the phrase on everyone's tongue.
coveted as in no one can get it and everyone wants it. everyone will be able to get a wii.
it's all speculation, but I think it'll take more than 1 gen to dethrone Sony. I think the hype machine will easily be as big as the 360 and probably bigger.
Duo_Maxwell
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[quote name='-Never4ever-']Still doesn't change any thing, the PS3 isn't worth $600 and people know that.
It's not the coveted hot item this year, that honor was bestowed upon the Wii. TRUs said so, and these are the people in charge of telling the US exactly what they will buy.[/QUOTE]
I seriously hope you are joking.
Working in retail I can tell you the ratio of people asking about preorders for the systems are about 12 to 1, the 12 being the PS3 and the 1 being the Wii. You get too much info from the net.
It's not the coveted hot item this year, that honor was bestowed upon the Wii. TRUs said so, and these are the people in charge of telling the US exactly what they will buy.[/QUOTE]
I seriously hope you are joking.
Working in retail I can tell you the ratio of people asking about preorders for the systems are about 12 to 1, the 12 being the PS3 and the 1 being the Wii. You get too much info from the net.
I could see MGS4 coming out for both the PS3 and 360 in the US and Europe, but it will be PS3 exclusive in Japan.
I don't really care since I don't like the MGS games. I want to see Square Enix releasing FF and Kingdom Hearts for the 360 in the US and Europe.
I don't really care since I don't like the MGS games. I want to see Square Enix releasing FF and Kingdom Hearts for the 360 in the US and Europe.
Man the more and more i read here i just want to kick certain people in the mouth. I think we should adopt a "Potential CAG signup IQ test" it will weed out the jackasses.
And i'm with vanilla guerilla on this, it wont kill the PS3. Grow up.
And i deem this BOGUS.
And i'm with vanilla guerilla on this, it wont kill the PS3. Grow up.
And i deem this BOGUS.
DarkNessBear
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[quote name='Duo_Maxwell']I seriously hope you are joking.
Working in retail I can tell you the ratio of people asking about preorders for the systems are about 12 to 1, the 12 being the PS3 and the 1 being the Wii. You get too much info from the net.[/quote]
That is very true.
I can vouge for that working at CC.
Working in retail I can tell you the ratio of people asking about preorders for the systems are about 12 to 1, the 12 being the PS3 and the 1 being the Wii. You get too much info from the net.[/quote]
That is very true.
I can vouge for that working at CC.
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Heightened Rumor: Metal Gear Solid 4 not a PS3 exclusive
If this proves to be true, then all we'll need is the DMC series and we'll be set.
Heightened Rumor: Metal Gear Solid 4 not a PS3 exclusive
If this proves to be true, then all we'll need is the DMC series and we'll be set.
crazyj
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ZOE3 FTW!!!!! I am still pissed I never bought a copy of ZOE2 to keep, I love that game and imagine what ZOE3 could be like with current gen hardware!
Anyway like others say MGS4 on 360 will not be the death of it, most people were turned off by MGS2 because of the complicated story and MGS3 was a good game nonetheless but didnt do anything too spectacular over the second game.
BUT I do hope MGS4 gets ported because I really wanna play it and dont wanna fork over $600 for one
Anyway like others say MGS4 on 360 will not be the death of it, most people were turned off by MGS2 because of the complicated story and MGS3 was a good game nonetheless but didnt do anything too spectacular over the second game.
BUT I do hope MGS4 gets ported because I really wanna play it and dont wanna fork over $600 for one
bread's done