Do all the decent girls always have bfs?

[quote name='Collectordragon']I'm not basing it just on looks. I look for the complete package.

I know these girls aren't lying because I either know them so well that I know for a fact that they have a bf or I don't know them that well and they mention they have a bf before they even know if I'm single or not. I'm also not asking these girls out. I find out these girls have bfs before I would ask them out in the first place. Often times they tell me about their bf and then ask me if I have a gf or not. That makes me wonder... Do girls ever lie to guys about having bfs because they're actually interested in the guy they're lying to? Like they talk about a fictitious bf to try to find out if the guy they're lying to has a gf or not?[/QUOTE]

To answer your last questions, yes. Been there, done that. It's a bit cheap to do, but it does happen. Trying to gauge interest, I suppose.
 
[quote name='shrike4242']When're we going to see the website with those multiplayer tricks, anyway, if you can do that all night? :rofl:[/QUOTE]

Sheeeeeet....

I gave up on that site....I'm just gonna post tubgirl on there soon enough.


"Tubgirl - The lost photos"
 
[quote name='shrike4242']Usually the ones who toss out the insults are a bit self-conscious on their own, so take that into consideration when worrying about insults being tossed around.[/QUOTE]


hehe!

Actually, I'm not really all that self-concious. I have my hang ups, being too confident is probably one of them.

I felt that the OP was whining. All the advice needed was the obvious stuff: meet people. There are infinite flavors of ice cream, you should taste them all.
 
[quote name='Mookyjooky']Sheeeeeet....

I gave up on that site....I'm just gonna post tubgirl on there soon enough.


"Tubgirl - The lost photos"[/QUOTE]

That might cause a few bits of confusion if you don't change the hostname. :rofl:
 
[quote name='Lina']Guys have to ask girls out 95% of the time. That's why we're less picky.

[/QUOTE]

Yep.

[quote name='Lina']That can be a problem.

Try not being friends with a girl before asking for a date. I wouldn't be surprised if some of those girls lied they had a bf, just so to not hurt your feelings, and keep you as a friend.

I've pointed this out before, and people went crazy on me... so, I'll just leave it there. ;)[/QUOTE]

God yes. That can be the biggest problem. That doesn't mean be an ass, but if you start doing just "friend" stuff and then you want to be more than friends, you'll get the "we might damage the friendship" line. That is death itself.

I will say this, the older you get, the harder it is to find someone available to your liking. You will find more single mothers, divorcees, that sort of thing. Those aren't the kind of relationships for everyone.
 
[quote name='Mookyjooky']You've made some comments before about not being able to go out.... you have a broken leg or something?

Also, about the slut thing....Call me.

I dont really know what I'm doing, but I can do it all night... ;-)[/QUOTE]

Sprained my foot during the winter... which was worse because of a previous major injury I had with that foot.

Then, had shoulder surgery at the end of March. Hopefully, in a week or two, I'll be able to drive and do normal things again.
 
[quote name='GuilewasNK']I will say this, the older you get, the harder it is to find someone available to your liking. You will find more single mothers, divorcees, that sort of thing. Those aren't the kind of relationships for everyone.[/QUOTE]

Even more sage advice.
 
[quote name='Lina']Sprained my foot during the winter... which was worse because of a previous major injury I had with that foot.

Then, had shoulder surgery at the end of March. Hopefully, in a week or two, I'll be able to drive and do normal things again.[/QUOTE]

:shock:

Looks like the bad karma fairy paid you quite the visit. Ouch (x2).

Hope it all heals up nicely and quickly.
 
God yes. That can be the biggest problem. That doesn't mean be an ass, but if you start doing just "friend" stuff and then you want to be more than friends, you'll get the "we might damage the friendship" line. That is death itself.
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I've done this myself, and I felt beyond horrible for it.

I can't explain why girls do this to guys. Once I trust some guy as a friend, we'll do anything not to lose that. You're welcome to hate us for it.
 
[quote name='shrike4242']:shock:

Looks like the bad karma fairy paid you quite the visit. Ouch (x2).

Hope it all heals up nicely and quickly.[/QUOTE]

Not really. Just part of being a tennis player. :)

The shoulder problem I've had for years... and finally had it taken care of. It's not fun playing when your shoulder cap randomly dislocates.
 
[quote name='Lina']I've done this myself, and I felt beyond horrible for it.

I can't explain why girls do this to guys. Once I trust some guy as a friend, we'll do anything not to lose that. You're welcome to hate us for it.[/QUOTE]

Why would I?

Women view trust as a very important thing, so it's a natural reaction. At least the women I know.
 
OP, maybe you are like me and only want what you can't have. I enjoyed hitting on Girls with BFs, liked the challenge, but when I got them or any girlfriend I got bored. I was known as "The Homewrecker" in school.
 
[quote name='Lina']Not really. Just part of being a tennis player. :)

The shoulder problem I've had for years... and finally had it taken care of. It's not fun playing when your shoulder cap randomly dislocates.[/QUOTE]

Yes, tennis would be one sport where you can mess up both those parts of your body. Ouch indeed.

Glad the shoulder problem is finally fixed, I'd think it could mess up your game just a little bit.
 
[quote name='msp32']OP, maybe you are like me and only want what you can't have. I enjoyed hitting on Girls with BFs, liked the challenge, but when I got them or any girlfriend I got bored. I was known as "The Homewrecker" in school.[/QUOTE]

Girls are the same way this... maybe even more so.

Even if a guy is with some awful girl... his stock rises. Simply because he can't be had.
 
[quote name='fanskad']Because they like you that means they aren't picky? You must have really low self esteem.

People like who they like. It's a mixture of nature and nurture.[/QUOTE]

You misunderstood what I said. I wasn't talking about the girls that like me I was talking about the girls who have already have bfs.
 
[quote name='shrike4242']When're we going to see the website with those multiplayer tricks, anyway, if you can do that all night? :rofl:[/QUOTE]

Also about the "I dont really know what I'm doing, but I can do it all night" comment...

I'm 24 - Lost viginity at 13, studied tantric sex, done enough acid to shoot blanks forever....of course I know what I'm doing.

But, I use that line on older women at the bars all the time...

I usually give them some bullshit story about being a cartographer in Antartica and how I study the land masses of glaciers and stuff. And a story how I was trapped in a glacier for 32 hours and how ever since then I can maintain an erection for 8 hours straight cause something froze in my brain and I cant get it down once it goes up.

I use the ol' "Dont know what I'm doing line" and I look like Johnny Depp from Benny and Joon (With the 30's clothes and the fedora) and it works EVERY TIME.

Personally, to me....women are just hotter at 28-38 - And they love to teach young Wes (Thats me) a thing or two....or at least the illusion of teaching me. Older women know what they want, they want control, they've lost all the babyfat, clean panties and they love taking care of men....

Basically, what I'm saying is....go for older women OP!
 
[quote name='Lina']Girls are the same way this... maybe even more so.

Even if a guy is with some awful girl... his stock rises. Simply because he can't be had.[/QUOTE]

Someone's claimed property seems to be worth more than unclaimed property. Odd how that is.
 
I know a guy who used to string Maria Sharapova's rackets, if you know what I mean.


Slutty women are what slutty guys want.

I can't stand sluts.
 
[quote name='Lina']I've done this myself, and I felt beyond horrible for it.

I can't explain why girls do this to guys. Once I trust some guy as a friend, we'll do anything not to lose that. You're welcome to hate us for it.[/QUOTE]

Guys do it too. Don't place all the blame on the girls.

It's funny how guys always say "why do girls do this or that?", or exhibit the same insecurities that girls have and don't even realize that guys and girls are a lot similar than either think. They both think the other is some foreign creature. I have to laugh when I read some of these threads (not in a bad way, it's just amusing). Some of the things guys say on here are things girls are wondering, too. We all have the same insecurities.
 
I never was a homewrecker and I never went after anyones girlfriend. I'm not saying I am a moral guy- I'm not. But there are some things I will do that's immorral and somethings that I wont do.

Cheating at Poker yes. Cheating with other peoples women, no.
 
[quote name='moiety']Guys do it too. Don't place all the blame on the girls.

It's funny how guys always say "why do girls do this or that?", or exhibit the same insecurities that girls have and don't even realize that guys and girls are a lot similar than either think. They both think the other is some foreign creature. I have to laugh when I read some of these threads (not in a bad way, it's just amusing). Some of the things guys say on here are things girls are wondering, too. We all have the same insecurities.[/QUOTE]

Women and men are similar, yes, though society tends to make them more different than they are. Same ideas, same insecurities, and the like, just some different parts in different places.

Though, each gender does tend to do some very odd things at times. :D
 
[quote name='fanskad']hehe!

Actually, I'm not really all that self-concious. I have my hang ups, being too confident is probably one of them.

I felt that the OP was whining. All the advice needed was the obvious stuff: meet people. There are infinite flavors of ice cream, you should taste them all.[/QUOTE]

I did say in the topic post that I was venting. :)
 
Given my stance mentioned in my prievious post, my advice is stick around, have as much social interaction as possible without overstepping your boundires. Some girls and guys must have a GF or BF at all times.(Security issues or something) If you win her over she will jump ship and climb abaord you. So to speak.
 
[quote name='Lina']I've done this myself, and I felt beyond horrible for it.

I can't explain why girls do this to guys. Once I trust some guy as a friend, we'll do anything not to lose that. You're welcome to hate us for it.[/QUOTE]

I don't hate for that because I should have been smart enough to figure it out years ago. For a straight guy, I probably had more female friends than anyone I went to school with. I had a total of 1 girlfriend in high school and only 1 in/after college. It wasn't for lack of popularity or trying. I was a jock and a brain and being the tallest guy in shcool draws attention to you. It is in my nature to be friendly to everyone and it became a problem later. If I could have gotten a nickel for everytime I heard the friend routine I'd be a rich man.

Right now I am glad I don't have to deal with a relationship (epecially after the way me and my last gf broke up) but later I'll probably change my mind.
 
[quote name='Xevious']I never was a homewrecker and I never went after anyones girlfriend. I'm not saying I am a moral guy- I'm not. But there are some things I will do that's immorral and somethings that I wont do.

Cheating at Poker yes. Cheating with other peoples women, no.[/QUOTE]


Im the exact opposite, if my girl cheats on me you can have her, its more her fault than yours. But you cheat at poker your gonna get stabbed. Thats just wrong!!
 
[quote name='Xevious']I never was a homewrecker and I never went after anyones girlfriend. I'm not saying I am a moral guy- I'm not. But there are some things I will do that's immorral and somethings that I wont do.

Cheating at Poker yes. Cheating with other peoples women, no.[/QUOTE]


Why the difference?

I don't get it. The complexities of human relationships are so vast that you can't simply label two people coming together in an act of love "cheating".

Unless it's really dirty and hawt. Then you can.
 
[quote name='Lina']Guys have to ask girls out 95% of the time. That's why we're less picky.

Plus, some girls will say yes to anyone... because they're desperate, or don't want to hurt people, or just stupid.

Are you simply basing your judgments on girls by their looks?[/QUOTE]

If you think about it logically, it's the total opposite. The fact that guys are traditionally expected to ask the girl out means it's in favor of the girl meaning she has her choice of the guys meaning she can be VERY picky in which guy she chooses. A girl will get propositioned by a horny guy 95% of her fertile life. Why? She, a girl in between the onset of puberty to menopause, will have qualities which are deemed attractive to the opposite sex - youthful skin, big breasts, firm stomach, etc. Why do think the cosmetic surgery industry as well as the cosmetic industry make so much money? Because girls are getting their skin done, their breast size increased, their hair removed, their teeth cleaned, etc. For what reason would they want to do that? To look attractive. Doesn't matter if it's for a guy or show off to her girlfriends. She just wants to look good. What's the consequence of looking good? Guys will flock to her like moths to a flame. Shallow? Yes but true nonetheless. The reason why a lot of girls seem standoffish and stuck up is that they've 'heard that line before' or 'been propositioned' by a lot of guys. It's old hat to a highly attractive girl. She can have pretty much any guy she wants. The reason why it always seems like the girls go for the bad boys is self explanatory as well. Women say they want a good guy with an interesting personality. Why do they go for the bad boys then? Because they already have an interesting personality. The good guy part is the part that they want to make over - to shape as they see fit. For example, when a guy is referred to as 'whipped' what was he before? From his friends' POV, he was this confident fun-loving party guy. From a girl's POV, it's a challenge to overcome. Who wants an already made good guy? He's boring since there's nothing to expect. He's predictable. No challenge. Nothing to make over. Girls love guys that will be good... but only after the girls've made the guys into what they deem good.

Now contrast that to a guy's situation. Unless you're a big name celeb i.e. whatever's the new flavor of the month, I dunno, Brad Pitt, or a pretty boy, a regular guy will not get any girls throwing themselves at him. It's the social expectation. Guy chases girl not the other way around. So when a guy DOES get a girl to prop him, he feels it's his lucky day. It's a rare event - the planets align, etc. So OF COURSE he's gonna jump on it (not necessarily sexually but he'll definitely feel good for a bit). He's not too picky since his options are limited. Guys got to fend for themselves (quoted from Chris Rock). So guys gotta take what we can get. It's only when a guy has build enough self confidence that a guy can start being picky and that a girl will even throw a glance his way since he presents himself as a challenge. A nice guy won't do that since he limits his options (subconsciously) by putting the girl on a pedestal and elevating her above his own self worth. If only the nice guy would realize that the girl would take him more seriously if he wasn't so humble and subservient. She will perceive the guy as brother material (or even worse, fall in the friend zone) and nothing more. The nice guy will continue to be nice to the girl but in reality she'll notice he's being nice to her only because he's attracted to her by the values he's tacked on her without actually knowing the girl's personality. From this viewpoint, you can actually see that the nice guy is actually more shallow than the asshole. The asshole at least doesn't hide his true nature. I'm by no means advocating being an asshole. Rather, I'm advocating that more guys have to realize the reason why nice guys finish last - they're really not that nice at all. Guys need to have more confidence. It seriously pisses me off seeing my gender lose heart after getting shot down once. Hell, I get shot down a ton of times and I like it that way. It saves me time, effort, and money spent on a girl who would otherwise not want my company - better to find someone who will. It's all a numbers game. Out of a hundred girls, there will at least be 10 who would be willing to go out with a certain guy. I used to prowl downtown Chicago meeting girls in the most unlikely of places: coffee shop, jazz club, park, library, train station, etc. because I'm a friendly outgoing sort. I'm not afraid to admit that I get shot down a lot but I will always get a girl. I'm confident of that. It's that confidence that propels me forward even after I get shot down. The reason why the OP thinks all the decent girls have bfs is that he's not willing to look beyond the scope of his vision. Beautiful girls are all around. I put out my arm and if I spin in a circle, I will find a hot girl who will go out with me who has an amicable personality. Don't put down your standards - that's settling and I never for 2nd best. But don't be afraid of giving an unlikely girl a chance either.
 
[quote name='moiety']We all have the same insecurities.[/QUOTE]

So you're saying that you're worried about the opposite sex stealing your lucky charms as well? Thank god....I thought I was alone


"She reaches up towards the lucky charms, but she looks at me, and grabs the cherrios instead...but I know that when I'm at work....she's pouring lucky charms all over the bed and laying in their sweet crunchy colored marshmellow presence....

I'll catch her one day............one day......"
 
[quote name='msp32']OP, maybe you are like me and only want what you can't have. I enjoyed hitting on Girls with BFs, liked the challenge, but when I got them or any girlfriend I got bored. I was known as "The Homewrecker" in school.[/QUOTE]

That's not where I'm coming from. Whenever I decide I like a girl enough to consider dating it always turns out after that that she has a bf.
 
[quote name='DenisDFat']I know a guy who used to string Maria Sharapova's rackets, if you know what I mean.


Slutty women are what slutty guys want.

I can't stand sluts.[/QUOTE]

Maria has never been with a guy, because her father is a controlling insane freak that will lead that girl to bad things once she's old to realize what's going on.

Not that I want to go on about women's tennis here. ;)
 
[quote name='Collectordragon']That's not where I'm coming from. Whenever I decide I like a girl enough to consider dating it always turns out after that that she has a bf.[/QUOTE]


BS, If you know a girl enough to like her you know her dating status.
 
[quote name='Lina']Maria has never been with a guy, because her father is a controlling insane freak that will lead that girl to bad things once she's old to realize what's going on.

Not that I want to go on about women's tennis here. ;)[/QUOTE]

Time for a new thread if you do. :D
 
[quote name='Collectordragon']That's not where I'm coming from. Whenever I decide I like a girl enough to consider dating it always turns out after that that she has a bf.[/QUOTE]

You're taking too long. You should be able to decide (on first impressions) whether you like a girl or not. It shouldn't take a week; it shouldn't take a day. 15 minutes tops. The whole point of dating is to get to know each other's quirks and see if you match. A girl will know in the first minute of meeting you whether she wants to have sex with you or not. And first impression count for a lot. Yeah it's very shallow but I'd be lying if I didn't say physical appearances count for something - even among girls.
 
This one time, I went to visit my boss "Bernie" at his beach resort and when me and my friend go there....he was dead!

So I didnt want to give up my awesome vacation so I convinced my friend to pretend he was alive for the remainder of the vacation and we had a blast!!

I cant remember how many times I got laid that week!!
 
[quote name='shrike4242']Whoa. That's one hell of a post. And all of it good. :applause:[/QUOTE]

Just a simple guy helpin' out my gender
 
I agree with all of his rant.

But, there's not many girls who think they're that attractive, to turn down lots of guys.

I have self-confidence, and I don't think I'm ugly... but, I will always at least give a guy a chance if he asks me out. Unless he's like grotesquely fat, or very very annoying.
 
[quote name='Mookyjooky']Basically, what I'm saying is....go for older women OP![/QUOTE]

LOL. There have been older women who were interested in me but they were scary as hell. I remember one was 34 when I was like 20 and she had a 15 year old son and told me that she wasn't looking for a father for her son just an older brother.
 
jaykrue, its different in Chicago and New York, I have been all over and in larger cities its hard to spit without hitting a hot chick. In the midwest in smaller cities it is much more difficult. PLus they do get hitched way quicker there thatn in metro areas.
 
[quote name='msp32']BS, If you know a girl enough to like her you know her dating status.[/QUOTE]

Not always true. My best friend in high school was a girl and it was just something we never talked about. When I did finally ask her out I found out she had a bf and that was that (we still were friends though). Everyone thought we would get together but it just never happened. I came to find out years later that she always wanted to be with me but because of my popularity and the fact I was friends with other girls, she never asked me about it. That's why I tell everyone to speak up regardless of feelings. I'd rather get my feelings hurt than wonder what could have been.
 
[quote name='Lina']I agree with all of his rant.

But, there's not many girls who think they're that attractive, to turn down lots of guys.

I have self-confidence, and I don't think I'm ugly... but, I will always at least give a guy a chance if he asks me out. Unless he's like grotesquely fat, or very very annoying.[/QUOTE]

Well, damn, there goes most of CAG on one or both of those restrictions. :shock:
 
[quote name='msp32']jaykrue, its different in Chicago and New York, I have been all over and in larger cities its hard to spit without hitting a hot chick. In the midwest in smaller cities it is much more difficult. PLus they do get hitched way quicker there thatn in metro areas.[/QUOTE]

I beg to differ on that point, being in the midwest. Plenty of places to go and find hot chicks.
 
[quote name='Collectordragon']LOL. There have been older women who were interested in me but they were scary as hell. I remember one was 34 when I was like 20 and she had a 15 year old son and told me that she wasn't looking for a father for her son just an older brother.[/QUOTE]

Ain't nothin' wrong with older women - they know what they want. I love that fact. I hardly have to teach them anything in bed. Plus they're more sophisticated and worldly so they know how to hold a conversation. Like I said in the rant, don't be afraid of giving an unlikely girl a chance. You might be missing out on an otherwise fun relationship. And if you look at what that woman said, she's not looking for a father, she can handle her own business. Just because she wanted to be in a relationship with you doesn't mean that she wants to get married.
 
[quote name='shrike4242']Well, damn, there goes most of CAG on one or both of those restrictions. :shock:[/QUOTE]

Lol. No.

By grotesquely fat, I mean like 300+ pounds. Disgusting fat.

And gamers would have a hard time annoying me. I'm quite an easy person to please. Just being nice keeps me happy.
 
[quote name='shrike4242']I beg to differ on that point, being in the midwest. Plenty of places to go and find hot chicks.[/QUOTE]

I think St. Louis counts as a Metro area.
 
[quote name='jaykrue']Ain't nothin' wrong with older women - they know what they want. I love that fact. I hardly have to teach them anything in bed. Plus they're more sophisticated and worldly so they know how to hold a conversation. Like I said in the rant, don't be afraid of giving an unlikely girl a chance. You might be missing out on an otherwise fun relationship. And if you look at what that woman said, she's not looking for a father, she can handle her own business. Just because she wanted to be in a relationship with you doesn't mean that she wants to get married.[/QUOTE]

Never know what you might find when you make the leap of faith and talk to someone. Might be Miss Right or Miss Right Now. Won't know either way unless you make that leap of faith.
 
[quote name='msp32']I think St. Louis counts as a Metro area.[/QUOTE]

I wasn't being specific to St. Louis in my comment. Plenty of places outside of St. Louis that fit your criteria and disagree with the end outcome.
 
[quote name='Lina']Lol. No.

By grotesquely fat, I mean like 300+ pounds. Disgusting fat.

And gamers would have a hard time annoying me. I'm quite an easy person to please. Just being nice keeps me happy.[/QUOTE]

Tossing flowers at you probably helps in the nice department. :D
 
That would be cute. :)

Just don't be like the "posters I can't mention", and I'd at least talk with posters here for a while.
 
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