Do we really need a Paul Bearer Memorial Thread? Ohhhhhhhhh Yeeeeessss

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Miz and Maryse are now engaged. Lucky bastard.

Also, the WWE has invited Glenn Beck to RAW in the wake of his comments on the Swagger storyline.
 
[quote name='Scorch']http://shop.wwe.com/Big-Bossman-"Li...wvar_W04867_color=Light Blue&start=5&cgid=otr

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First WWE shirt for which I've had genuine interest since the Kaientai Evil shirt.
 
Wonder if that line of shirts will come packaged with a C&D for barbershopwindow?

(not that WWE has a case, but that's never stopped them from threatening litigation before.)
 
That was posted today... I guess they'll just end up suspending Swagger instead of releasing him.
 
I don't think there was ever any fear of him being released, realistically. Looks like Swagger's ass was saved by the combination of heat he's getting from right-wing nutjobs, which has translated into a lot of free publicity for their shows.

This arrest won't do a thing to hold him back, given that.
 
Beck would be a nuclear dumbass if he accepted that invitation. :lol:
 
[quote name='Brak']Plant.[/QUOTE]

Obviously, yet still fucking hilarious.

On a side note, I just threw $35 away on "decent" Smackdown tickets for this Tuesday. Hope I get to see some Swaggy awesomeness. And Cesaro swinging Miz around like his bitch again. PLEASE!
 
[quote name='dkreegz515']As of February 19, 2013, Scott has arrived in Atlanta after detoxing in a medically supervised environment. Thanks to everyone for their support!! ----ddp
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And Scott gives Louie the razors edge/pins him for the 1-2-3 during a DDP Yoga session. XD

Seriously though very very happy to see this. Loved how he did the intro as the bad guy and all too. Scott's already looking/doing a lot better!
 
I'm beyond happy for Scott as well as Jake. In my opinion DDP already had a place in the hall of fame someday, this sure as hell seals it.
 
Please don't let Vince McMahon, his investors and his finely tuned sociopaths manipulate you into thinking that the wrestling hall of fame in Vince's bubble is the end-all, be-all crowned achievement of a pro-wrestler's career. :(

Edit: Wait. Edge was inducted? looooooooooooooooooo-- continued on next page... --oooooooooool
 
That doesn't deserve a serious response, but: what makes Edge a bad inductee? Triple Crown, King of the Ring, Royal Rumble victories, involved in the first TLC match, won the first MitB, and was part of top feuds with Matt Hardy, John Cena, and a well past his prime Mick Foley.

While I'm thinking about it, stop spamming the hell out of the Steam trade thread.
 
I figured it was you who reported me.

You were that kid.

And you forgot to add "bland", "boring" and "mediocre Christ Jericho impersonator" to Edge's lengthy list of credentials - credentials that make him more eligible than Savage, or even Funk getting inducted on his own, as opposed to a package with his brother -- and whoever in the Four Horsemen who only got inducted as a package. (Are there others that got inducted as packages?) Not to mention all of the other snubs.

In my opinion, Edge is a channel changer in terms of personality - subjective.

I feel that this factor isn't subjective: Simply too early to induct him.

I suspect they inducted him to make his retirement more of a feelgood moment for the WWE Universe... On the same coin, it could have been the right thing to do what with his career being plucked away from him, although I suspect he had his eyes on acting all along anyway.

Despite that, when Edge is in the hall, and a list of others who should have been inducted the first year aren't, or at least before a fairly young guy who just retired... It just looks bad. Good feelgood moment for fans and Edge and his friends, I guess. Coulda just held off on it for a few years.

Trish Stratus seems a little too early, too.
 
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I was kidding.

Someone pointed the rules out to me. I never read the first post of any thread, so I wasn't aware that you could only post once every three days.
 
[quote name='Brak']I was kidding.

Someone pointed the rules out to me. I never read the first post of any thread, so I wasn't aware that you could only post once every three days.[/QUOTE]

I may be wrong (and someone please correct me if so) but I assumed WWE inducted Edge so soon to both draw interest to the Hall of Fame Ceremony that year (as Edge is still fresh in people's minds) and thus lock him into a Legends Contract which I understand didn't work as well as they wanted it to.
 
Edge is one of the best heels we've seen in recent memory. Calling him bland is fucking moronic, but calling him a "mediocre Chris Jericho impersonator"? That's just shitty trolling.
 
I've never been impressed with Edge either (outside of E&C). He never had "it" to engage me in his antics as a single wrestler. IMO, the primary reason he got his big push is due to the heat he had from schtupping Lita. Just a yawn-inducing bore to me.
 
My biggest beef with Edge has always been his no-impact finisher.

The running hug makes Cena's AA look like a goddamn burning hammer.
 
I agree. The Downward Spiral and that DDT he did looked much much better.

Edge was aight. Amazing during the attitude prime, decent during the smackdown 6 era, pretty ok during one of his UT, Hardy, Mysterio fueds. Had a decent match with foley and y2j. Had a damn solid career, just was never really anything but just solid. I agree they shouldve waited a few years to induct him. Especial. If he ever comes back ala Shawn Micheals.
 
[quote name='mtxbass1']Watched both of those Scott Hall videos. Good stuff there.

Has anyone actually tried DDP yoga? I'm really tempted to grab it.[/QUOTE]

I've tried the pre-DDP Yoga, branded as "Yoga for Regular Guys". I'm severely out of shape, so it kicked my ass pretty easily. I was doing it every day until I started watching my son on a daily basis, who constantly tries to climb on me while trying to do it, which kind of takes me out of the "zone", as they say, so I stopped doing it.

That, and I'm a lazy asshole. :lol:
 
I hate Edge's mic work. He's confident when he speaks, but doesn't really say anything... interesting.

He's a solid wrestler, but I feel like they chucked him into the title scene FAR too early, which stunted his growth as a performer.

Edge's persona just doesn't stand out to me at all, especially near the end of his career. I don't "get it" - I feel indifferent / have the urge to change the channel when I see him out in the ring.

I feel exactly the same way about Randy Orton.

As for someone scoffing at me calling him a Jericho bootleg: Look at Edge's mic work when he started blossoming as a singles competitor. You can tell he probably looked to Jericho as one of his inspirations. "I'm sarcastic and witty!" I take it you assumed I was stating Edge was an exact Jericho replica.
 
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Yeah Edge after E & C I wasn't that much of a fan of. Keep in mind too his first ever match (ever?) in the WWF he hurt a guy really bad too. Him f ucking Lita probably had a lot to do with his push too. And Lita well you know she's been around a lot too.

I thought about the DDP Yoga thing too. But I think the cheapest DVD package is like $60+ too. Is there a bluray version by chance too? And part of me just wants to say the whole DDP Yoga thing is just another fitness fad that's a gimmick and all about the youtube money/money. Yes I'm very happy it's helped so many. But it's just one thing I'm always thinking about when I see it online. So many fitness gimmicks on DVD's out there too. And people jumping from one to another once there bored of one too.
 
I'm not sure what I think about Edge. He's never been, to me, someone who I "want to be." When watching wrestling (or anything, really), we identify with the people on the shows we watch to some extent, whether WWE or Mythbusters or Meet the Press.

Edge did a lot in his career, but I never felt like I had to watch his matches, I never felt like I cared about his feuds, the outcomes, etc. I remember people telling me his hair match vs Kurt Angle was a magnificent wrestling extravaganza, but I legit fell asleep watching it.

He works for someone, just not me. Whether he's in the hall of whomever we can get to sign a legends contract this year or not is of no consequence to me, in the end it's all a work. Maybe in ten years I'll say "dang, I miss Edge's ring work!" and suddenly decide to buy a video of his best matches. But as of right now, I can't see that happening. Just not interested.

Antonio Cesaro, OTOH? Dude's so good I'm even interested when the Miz in on tv right now.
 
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I thought about the DDP Yoga thing too. But I think the cheapest DVD package is like $60+ too. Is there a bluray version by chance too? And part of me just wants to say the whole DDP Yoga thing is just another fitness fad that's a gimmick and all about the youtube money/money. Yes I'm very happy it's helped so many. But it's just one thing I'm always thinking about when I see it online. So many fitness gimmicks on DVD's out there too. And people jumping from one to another once there bored of one too.[/QUOTE]

No blu-ray version. I'd probably be interested in the 4 disc set myself, which runs around $99.

I'm wondering the same myself. Tons of "celebrities" use it, but for all I know, they're paid to do so. From the limited reading I've done on it, many people do have good results...
 
DDP Yoga has been around since 2006 (as YRG), I believe. If it was a fad, it would have died out shortly after it began.

There are videos online that you can check out before you buy it, I think there's a few sample clips on his website, too.

As far as having good results -- any fitness or training will show good results as long as you stick to it.
 
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Its Charlie Haas channeling his inner Antonio Cesaro.[/QUOTE]

I don't get ROH where i live so this is the first time I have seen Haas since his days of being a Kurt Angle lackey in WWE. I like this Charlie Hass much much better. Tons of character showing through compared to his WWE persona. Then again, that is prolly due to the way WWE packaged him and the character they made him play.
 
Haas was awesome at the very end of his WWE run where he kept dressing up as other people.

But holy shit at the endless swinging of The Mana Knight into those guardrails.
 
[quote name='Halo05']Haas was awesome at the very end of his WWE run where he kept dressing up as other people.

But holy shit at the endless swinging of The Mana Knight into those guardrails.[/QUOTE]

For that to have been TMK wouldn't the ring name have to be something like Sauceless Chicken Fingers?
 
[quote name='Halo05']Haas was awesome at the very end of his WWE run where he kept dressing up as other people.
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I totally forgot about this. Off to YouTube I go.
 
[quote name='Spyder187']For that to have been TMK wouldn't the ring name have to be something like Sauceless Chicken Fingers?[/QUOTE]

:rofl:
 
Attitude Era in WWE 13 is pretty cool so far right up until the Triple H/HBK interview segment where they had to mute out the letter F or Federation like 20 times. Just leave the segment out.
 
[quote name='Halo05']Haas was awesome at the very end of his WWE run where he kept dressing up as other people.

But holy shit at the endless swinging of The Mana Knight into those guardrails.[/QUOTE]

:rofl:
 
[quote name='Spyder187']I don't get ROH where i live so this is the first time I have seen Haas since his days of being a Kurt Angle lackey in WWE. I like this Charlie Hass much much better. Tons of character showing through compared to his WWE persona. Then again, that is prolly due to the way WWE packaged him and the character they made him play.[/QUOTE]

ROHWrestling.com has the prior week's show up Thursday for free. You do have to sign up to watch but its worth it.
 
Recap of an interview w/ Vince McMahon on TSN 15 years ago. Too many choice quotes to overlook. Read the whole thing, if you're not laughing and rolling your eyes by the end, well...

* On whether he has a problem with Raw losing to Nitro in the TV ratings: "I don't have a problem. When your competitor owns television networks that are male dominated, they have an NBA package, an NFL package which they just lost, Major League Baseball. When they have that kind of strength, those kind of male demos on at least two of their networks and cross-promote and actually promote their Nitro television show more heavily than any television show in history, then I would suggest you're bound to get some television ratings. Television ratings are only part of the equation in terms of competition. We are in the television business, yes, and we look for excellent ratings, but it's not the be all and end all of what we do. They are in the television business. I'm in the sports entertainment business. There is a big difference philosophically and in terms of ratings."

* On how he feels about WCW building around stars he built: "That fits the Ted Turner philosophy. Ted goes out and copies things. That's what he's done all his life. I don't know that Ted has had an original thought in his head ever. He is very good at copying things. You can go out and attempt to copy the WWF and open up your wallet and pay exorbitant sums of money for superstars that we created. That's fine. He can do that. That's not going to last forever. We protected ourselves now with long-term contracts with those individuals we want to stay here. If something comes along or happens to an individual and you want to allow them to be stolen, you can always do that. But you want to protect yourself with longterm contracts and be able to build a nucleus and be able to create new stars, which is something we've always been able to do. Disney used to say he could innovate faster than his competitor could imitate. That's the task before us."

* On whether he regrets letting Hulk Hogan, Diesel, and Razor Ramon go: "I would suggest with Hogan, no, I don't regret that. With Scott Hall and Diesel, perhaps. That's when we started doing our guaranteed contracts. We stayed out of that as long as we could. But right after that we started with our guaranteed contracts and that's what made them go to Turner. That and the sum of money."

* On why he doesn't regret losing Hogan even though everywhere Hogan goes, success seems to follow: "That's very true. Again, I guess to a certain extent that's a compliment to us having worked with him and having been part of the overall success of who he was and who he still is to this day in terms of television. In terms of a live event, if you see Hulk Hogan perform at a live event, you're disappointed naturally. He's not the same man he was 10 or 15 years ago in terms of athleticism."

* On whether he'd take Hogan back: "Only on the right terms. I certainly wouldn't take him back in terms of a bidding war between Turner and the WWF. You can't do that. We have to be smarter. We have to stay out of this bidding war situation. We can't do that. Turner has unlimited resources. We are the last of the independents in this business. Turner with Time-Warner, with their resources, we're like a little speck in the ocean."

* On whether he's considered taking on Rupert Murdoch as a partner: "I've talked to Rupert a number of times, not about being a partner. One day we may make this a public company. I think that's probably the way to go one day. I don't know. I like being an independent. I don't like being part of being swept away if you're part of a conglomerate somehow. There are some advantages, yes. I like competing. I like being out in the marketplace... I enjoy what we're doing now. There is no way to have an even playing field with Ted Turner... Other than television ratings we are kicking Ted Turner's ass." Eric Bischoff planned to interview with TSN this week and bring hard numbers to the table to dispute that statement by McMahon.

* On dealing with Mike Tyson: "He might wrestle. He's not currently scheduled to wrestle at Wrestlemania. We're a couple of weeks away and anything can happen. He may wrestle after Wrestlemania is over. He may go back to boxing. We don't know yet."

* On whether they've gotten their money's worth from Tyson: "I think we already have."

* On whether DX is the WWF's answer to the NWO: "No, no, no, no. I think you make a big mistake in any form of entertainment by copying. I think people know where the real deal is and that's why they support us so overwhelmingly in pay-per-view and merchandising and licensing and live events. The live event is really what our business is all about because the athletes we have a need to perform. That's their biggest thrill, to be able to perform. When you give them that forum to be able to perform, they do and our audience greatly appreciates it."

* On whether he regrets the interview with Melanie Pillman: "No, not at all. Actually there is very little in my life that I regret. I don't regret that whatsoever because the purpose of having Melanie on, because at the time Brian was known as a real free spirit. He was known from time to time to use recreational drugs. And it was felt at that time by his wife that that was one of the reasons he passed away. So I gave her the forum to say maybe everyone can learn from this, benefit from this tragedy in some capacity and that's why we had Melanie Pillman on. As it turned out he had a heart attack, he had a diseased heart."

* On Ahmed Johnson: "Ahmed Johnson hurt a lot of people. I think he started believing his own publicity. I think he absolutely lost the focus. He couldn't determine the difference between Tony Norris (his real name) and Ahmed Johnson. I mean, hello."

* On Vince McMahon: "The luckiest man on Earth. I've got a wonderful, wonderful family. I have the privilege of being in a company and doing the thing that I love to do which is entertain people. It's the biggest thrill of my life other than my family."

* On Rick Rude: "Someone who would like to be in this era and performing with the greats, but unfortunately can't."

* On Goldust imitating Dusty Rhodes: "We don't slap people in the face. That's a tribute to Dusty. Dusty was called right after we did that and Dusty laughed so hard because he knew what we were doing."

* On his favorite creation of all time: "I don't think I have a favorite. Certainly the Undertaker is a phenomenal athlete and a phenomenal characterization. The man behind it is one of the most wonderful men you'll ever see in the squared circle."

* On turning Undertaker from a no-name in WCW to a superstar in the WWF: "But you've seen that over and over again with stars who have left Turner's organization where they had tremendous talent but it wasn't recognized and they didn't have the opportunity to be all they could be. Steve Austin is another one."

* On Undertaker's appeal: "I think people can relate to that character. I think they can relate to someone who can't die."

* On Steve Austin's appeal: "Unbelievably enormous. I've never seen anything like it, not even in the brightest of the Hogan days, nothing has equaled Stone Cold's popularity. I think Stone Cold more than anything else is saying what the populace would like to say, is doing what the populace would like to do, and I think basically the everyday man or woman can relate to Austin. That's who he is. He doesn't aspire to be anything beyond that. He is very proud of being who he is. That is probably the relationship, although I'm not certain."

* On the evolution of Steve Austin vs. what McMahon originally conceived of Stone Cold: "I think that one of the things we do as a company is we're good listeners. We're decent producers as well, but I think that if you're a good listener and you recognize talent that someone has, it's pretty obvious when they have talent. You can camouflage that talent, you can hide that talent if you chose to politically, but that's not what the WWF is all about. But we're good listeners. I think most of the athletes that are here and their popularity really relates to them, the talent, more than it does what the WWF does to enhance it. Although it all has to work together, naturally."

* On Steve Austin saying he wants to kick Vince McMahon's ass on TV: "I think it's good television. I think a lot of people would like to kick my ass. I don't have a problem with somebody saying it, especially when it adds to the flavor and the attitude of the WWF."

* On the irony of how he buried the smaller territories during his days of expansion: "They ended up burying themselves. When I bought my dad's business, he had no idea what my intentions were. He would never have sold me the business had he known we were going national, notwithstanding international. My dad would get a phone call just about every other week from one of his cronies. When I bought my dad's business, it was on a balloon payment basis. We had pay for it within a year or he and his other stockholders kept the money and got the business back. It was a tremendous gamble, but after I made that gamble, I had to keep on gambling in terms of cash flow. We went to Los Angeles, St. Louis, and all points east and west and in the middle. By the way, most of the independents we went to, I went to them and sat down with them and said, 'Can we work a deal? Can we absorb this or pay you x-number of dollars through the years?' Here was this young kid at the time standing in front of these elderly millionaires who had far more resources than I did."

* Other comments: On Ultimate Warrior: "Lunatic"... On Eric Bischoff: "Don't know him that well. By reputation, not a nice man"... On Hogan: "Wow. Not as big as he thinks he is"... On Bruno Sammartino: "A confused individual, probably suffering from dementia but one with a great reputation"... On Jesse Ventura: "Overrated at the time and still is confused about his place in history in the WWF"... On Kevin Nash: "A very fortunate individual that someone saw the talent finally that he had and gave him the opportunity to be somebody."
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[quote name='Demolition Man']ROHWrestling.com has the prior week's show up Thursday for free. You do have to sign up to watch but its worth it.[/QUOTE]

Do they do that every week? That's cool. I didn't know. Thanks for the heads up.
 
[quote name='bhk']Do they do that every week? That's cool. I didn't know. Thanks for the heads up.[/QUOTE]

Yep every week's show is up the following Thursday. If you become a VIP member you get that week's show on Monday instead of Thursday. VIP I believe is $8 a month or $60 a year. You get some other benefits like discounts on merch and iPPVs, access to ROH's online library of shows and matches, etc.

Current listing of stuff on the library = http://www.rohwrestling.com/content/exclusive-ringside-content

Sorry to sound like a nonstop ad for ROH. I'm nearly tempted to join myself as I wouldn't mind being able to see some of the shows they have available on their online library.
 
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