Dragon Quest IV Nerfed: Official Thread

How long should I expect to put into this game, ballpark? I'm not planning a speedrun or anything but I also (generally) don't feel compelled to get every single secret and collectible when I play RPGs.
 
I'm about 25 hours in and I don't seem anywhere near the end. But then again, I do tend to look for everything and take my time. There are still lots of areas I can't get to (have a boat but can't get lots of places that I see on the map).

What is with the person you pick in Hoffman's Place that is some sort of ambassador? It wanted me to quit the game when I wanted to send her out (and I was still playing so I declined). Is that a Wifi Connect thing or just a local wireless deal? Or does it have nothing to do with connecting with other people. Strange there's been no mention of this in the thread. (But it seems so since you choose a long greeting to make for them).

I just barely started getting that city built so I can't see how I don't have many more hours left in the game. Not sure how you could power through in 18 unless you knew exactly where to go (I've spent a lot of time trying to figure out where to go next and just exploring and finding new things in the mean time - love games like that!).
 
Finally started this. Accents are driving me nuts. I could see the appeal if they were voiced, but without that it's just annoying. Also, now more pissed about missing party talk.
 
[quote name='pete5883']Accents are driving me nuts. I could see the appeal if they were voiced, but without that it's just annoying.[/quote]

Couldn't agree more. And they aren't always obvious since English isn't a phonetic language. At least Chrono Trigger took them out.
 
[quote name='laaj']Couldn't agree more. And they aren't always obvious since English isn't a phonetic language. At least Chrono Trigger took them out.[/QUOTE]

There were no accents in the Japanese version. They were added in the localization. And yes, they suck.

io: Don't worry about the villager. Look in the manual for more info; it's local Wifi connection. It gets you absolutely nothing if you participate, so just ignore it.
 
[quote name='io']I'm about 25 hours in and I don't seem anywhere near the end. But then again, I do tend to look for everything and take my time. There are still lots of areas I can't get to (have a boat but can't get lots of places that I see on the map).

What is with the person you pick in Hoffman's Place that is some sort of ambassador? It wanted me to quit the game when I wanted to send her out (and I was still playing so I declined). Is that a Wifi Connect thing or just a local wireless deal? Or does it have nothing to do with connecting with other people. Strange there's been no mention of this in the thread. (But it seems so since you choose a long greeting to make for them).

I just barely started getting that city built so I can't see how I don't have many more hours left in the game. Not sure how you could power through in 18 unless you knew exactly where to go (I've spent a lot of time trying to figure out where to go next and just exploring and finding new things in the mean time - love games like that!).[/quote]

I went through it kinda quick since I've played the hell out of the NES version, it's my favorite RPG and I remembered a lot of it from back in the day. The 1st time I went through it, though, it took me forever to find my way! Imagine how frustrating it is without the map always visible. The NES version had a map you could access, but it wasn't remotely user friendly in comparison.

Glad you're taking your time and enjoying it, though, that's how this game is meant to be played.

Don't know what to say about the Wifi stuff, to be honest I ignored it completely.
 
I really wasn't liking it too much in the first 4 chapters, but 5 has sucked me in good and I am loving it. I couldn't force myself to play for more than an hour at a time in the beginning, but now I've spent my whole weekend playing.
 
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I finished off chapter 5 late late Friday night. In fact, beware and leave yourself a few hours when you go into that final battle as the stuff afterwards goes ON and ON and ON. I was really frustrated with it, actually, as I needed to get to bed and it was pushing 5am. I had already stayed up way too long finishing it and just wanted to get to a save so I could get to bed (had to be up at 9am for my son's soccer game). So I kind of skipped through whatever story/wrapup happened there and finally got to the save... Anyway, will be starting up chapter 6, I guess, tonight. Credit have rolled of course, but I understand there's more...
 
Just finished off all the optional stuff in Chapter 6 and beat the second end boss. Clocked in around 38 hours or so total. I pretty much did everything except collect every monster in the log (and I didn't do much with the casino).

Loved the game though and am looking forward to the next couple on the DS (and of course IX).
 
Yeah, I finished Chap 6 even though it felt super tacked-on. I mean,
palette-swapped final boss?
Come on, now. Looking less forward to IX now that I realize a 3D DQ battle system will never be as fast as a 2D DQ battle system, because they insist on showing your party's attack animation.
 
Quick Q.

I am on the 5th chapter and Torneko the shopkeep in in my party. It seems that when I battle with him, he sometimes does random moves I never even know existed (eg, I tell him to attack and he will let out a roar to freeze enemies),

Is there a reason for this?
 
On Chapter 5 about 18 hours in, but I'm taking my time, exploring and finding stuff. I'm LOVING the game. I'm the type that likes to have the best equipment when I find it, and I just saw a weapon that cost 15,000 so I guess I'm grinding for a while now. The accents aren't too bad, I kinda like how they're all different, and if you sound them out in your head it's not too hard to figure out what the people mean to say.
 
[quote name='soccerstud652']Quick Q.

I am on the 5th chapter and Torneko the shopkeep in in my party. It seems that when I battle with him, he sometimes does random moves I never even know existed (eg, I tell him to attack and he will let out a roar to freeze enemies),

Is there a reason for this?[/quote]

Is random. It's likely an homage to Jester class in past DQ games.
 
[quote name='keithp']On Chapter 5 about 18 hours in, but I'm taking my time, exploring and finding stuff. I'm LOVING the game. I'm the type that likes to have the best equipment when I find it, and I just saw a weapon that cost 15,000 so I guess I'm grinding for a while now. The accents aren't too bad, I kinda like how they're all different, and if you sound them out in your head it's not too hard to figure out what the people mean to say.[/quote]

I think you're playing it wrong. Just equip the best stuff for your top 4 and beat the game.
 
I'm actually playing two games at once. I am trying to beat DQ I on GBC (with II and III in reserve after I finish I) and IV on the DS. I have VII and VIII for PS but I have yet to start those.


My goal is to have those six games finished by the time V and VI come out. This way I am all caught up for IX!!!
 
[quote name='soccerstud652']I'm actually playing two games at once. I am trying to beat DQ I on GBC (with II and III in reserve after I finish I) and IV on the DS. I have VII and VIII for PS but I have yet to start those.


My goal is to have those six games finished by the time V and VI come out. This way I am all caught up for IX!!![/quote]

There is nothing to catch up; not all Dragon Quest games are linked. Anyway I predict you'll get burned out of playing DQ before finishing even one game. You should pace yourself.
 
[quote name='laaj']There is nothing to catch up; not all Dragon Quest games are linked. Anyway I predict you'll get burned out of playing DQ before finishing even one game. You should pace yourself.[/quote]

Actually, I am not even close to burned out. I usually burn out alot quicker, but I have been playing I and IV with no problem. I tried to start VII just to see what it looked like; but I realized it was too much to handle at once.
 
That is hundreds of hours of gaming. I did over 100 on DQVIII alone. Unless you have nothing to do all day every day besides game, I don't think you'll be able to finish them all before DQ V comes out. So, just play at your own pace and enjoy them.
 
Yeah, it's going to be really tough to finish I-IV, VII and VIII by the time V comes out. I'm told VII takes at least 120 hours (I put almost 90 in and wasn't even close to disc 2; my friend spent well over 200), and VIII takes close to 100. Even II-IV can take dozens of hours if you've never played before.
 
[quote name='defiance_17']Yeah, it's going to be really tough to finish I-IV, VII and VIII by the time V comes out. I'm told VII takes at least 120 hours (I put almost 90 in and wasn't even close to disc 2; my friend spent well over 200), and VIII takes close to 100. Even II-IV can take dozens of hours if you've never played before.[/quote]

Well I have put about 30 hours into IV and I'm just about finished.

I have put about 4 hours into DQI and I am almost finished with that.

Does V have a North American release date?

Luckily, I have a 3 week vacation coming up, so I am going to devote alot of time to vegging out and playing some games. Since I finished alot of my newer games like Gears 2, I will have some room to play DQ.

Although, I have not opened Fallout 3 yet, and I know that will suck up some time.

Again, what does nerfed mean.
 
[quote name='soccerstud652']
Again, what does nerfed mean.[/quote]

OP was some fan freak who wanted all the features from the Japanese version no matter if that's appropriate for Western markets. It all depends on how much you'll be annoyed with having to constantly go the the menu and select party talk after every single game event.
 
[quote name='laaj']I think you're playing it wrong. Just equip the best stuff for your top 4 and beat the game.[/QUOTE]

Nah, it's ok, I'm not just grinding for the sake of grinding. I'm having fun exploring and talking to everyone, trying to get side quests and stuff. But seeing a better weapon or armor than the one I have when I get to a new shop makes me want it. The game hasn't been difficult at all at this point, though, so maybe I am overlevelled somewhat.
 
[quote name='laaj']OP was some fan freak who wanted all the features from the Japanese version no matter if that's appropriate for Western markets. It all depends on how much you'll be annoyed with having to constantly go the the menu and select party talk after every single game event.[/QUOTE]

That really doesn't answer the question of what nerfed means.
 
[quote name='laaj']OP was some fan freak who wanted all the features from the Japanese version no matter if that's appropriate for Western markets. It all depends on how much you'll be annoyed with having to constantly go the the menu and select party talk after every single game event.[/QUOTE]

How is not having half the game's dialogue "appropriate for Western markets" whether or not YOU personally care about it? Stop being a troll.
 
Traditionally, "nerfed" means that the game is made easier (like turning a regular football into a soft nerf football). Often, games are made easier when ported from Japan to the western market. In this case, the OP used the term to mean some features are missing, rather than the game was made easier. I personally don't think it was a good use of the term "nerfed" but whatever.
 
Anyone still playing this?

I picked this up a few weeks ago and finally popped it in. While I played many JRPGs, this is my first real DQ experience. I just got done playing the wonderful remake of FFIV on the DS and was a bit weary of going to something I knew would be radically different.

About two seconds after turning it on, my fears were gone. I have immediately been sucked in by the charm of this title and have put about 6 hours in the last 2 days, which is a lot for me. The quick battles, the adventuring, the music, the dialogue..all are great. I am pumped for V to come out now and will be picking that up immediately.

Currently, I am on the 2nd chapter and just got done
beating the Monster that demanded sacrifices from a local village
.
 
The pace really does quicken when you get over the hump of level grinding. What were the programmers thinking when they made the second half of the chapter FF-easy?

Man I'm nervous about chapter 3, since it involves business deals > level grinding.
 
lol I'm STILL slowly doing my thing on this game.

I'm on chapter 5, finally recruited my last team member, but I wanna buy sum new armor b4 going to the next dungeon.

I seriously play this game like in one 45 minute session every 2 weeks lol
 
I'm still playing this. I'm a good ways into Chapter 5. I really like the freedom it gives you once you ge the ship. I've got several towns and dungeons on my TO DO list that I found, some of which seem too hard and I'll have to go back to.
 
I need to get back to this. I was playing right before bed, but got sidetracked by one of those book-things with wordies in it. I was on Chapter 5 I think, but was kind of stuck, just sailing around the world trying to figure out what I was supposed to do next.
 
I just got Psaro in my group and am trying to level him a bit currently before V comes out. Still trying to do a few side quests and find residents for that lil town of mine. :)

A lot of times when porting games from Japan to North America they tend to change the dialogue and features a bit to accomodate each culture. If anyone has seen some of the games they have over in Japan, you'd realize that more then enough people would be complaining and throwing a fit over here about them. I would love to see everything that was in the Japan version but at least its better then them not porting the series over.
 
[quote name='DragonSlayerX']I just got Psaro in my group and am trying to level him a bit currently before V comes out. Still trying to do a few side quests and find residents for that lil town of mine. :)

A lot of times when porting games from Japan to North America they tend to change the dialogue and features a bit to accomodate each culture. If anyone has seen some of the games they have over in Japan, you'd realize that more then enough people would be complaining and throwing a fit over here about them. I would love to see everything that was in the Japan version but at least its better then them not porting the series over.[/QUOTE]

Wait, Psaro joins your group? Not to be an ass but shouldn't that have had spoiler tags?

Anyway, I bought this last week at CC and I love it. Of course, this isn't my first DQ/DW games. I've got about 11 and a half hours in Chapter 4, so far. I'm addicted to playing this game, it seems. I played through a good chunk of DQVIII last year and never got this addicted. I bought this along with Wario Ware: Smooth Moves, Kirby: SSU, and Castlevania: OoE, and none of those three have been touched since last week.
 
[quote name='steveovig']Wait, Psaro joins your group? Not to be an ass but shouldn't that have had spoiler tags?

[/quote]

It's part of the post-game bonus chapter that starts before the original ending and leads to an alternate ending. I wouldn't be too bothered by having it spoiled.
 
I just got Ragnar back in Chapter 5 and now I'm kind of stuck... I've sailed all around the world, explored a few new towns and dungeons without anything notable happening, and seen the Psaro/Rose dream sequence in Straithbale, but I'm not sure where I need to go next.

I felt the same way in VIII after I got the ship... the game abruptly quit indicating what to do next, and I had to just kind of stumble randomly around the world trying to trigger the next story sequence. Do all Dragon Quest games do this?
 
after u get Ragnar, talk to the chancellor in the town/castle where u recruit him and he will point u in the direction of the next area u need to go.

it's sum castle that starts with a "Z", it's overrun by monsters and u gotta fight them.
 
I'm at what I presume to be the final boss and I have a question for you guys. Anyone know where I can find a shop inventory list somewhere besides a print guide? I looked on GFaqs and found nothing. I remember a shop that had really expensive weapons/armor especially something that was 35000 gold but I can't remember where it was.
 
It was in the south-east corner of Endor. I just bought my second liquid metal armor from there (for 35,000 gold) to use in the final battle.

As a follow-up question: does anyone know how to get to those chests that are on the other side of the wall in that armor shop? I see stairs going up and down and stairs on the roof, but no idea how I''d get up on the roof....
 
[quote name='Backlash']It was in the south-east corner of Endor. I just bought my second liquid metal armor from there (for 35,000 gold) to use in the final battle.

As a follow-up question: does anyone know how to get to those chests that are on the other side of the wall in that armor shop? I see stairs going up and down and stairs on the roof, but no idea how I''d get up on the roof....[/quote]
you jump down from the castle
 
I beat Chapter 5 but I don't have a clue where to go to start Chapter 6. Would anyone here be so kind as to inform me where I should go in this Chapter to begin it?
 
[quote name='steveovig']I beat Chapter 5 but I don't have a clue where to go to start Chapter 6. Would anyone here be so kind as to inform me where I should go in this Chapter to begin it?[/quote]

Go to where you used the flute to meet Rose. I'm pretty sure it's called Rosehill. You'll want to talk to the witch in the well. [quote name='whitereflection']Does gold and equipment carry over when you play a character in a later chapter?[/quote]

Only the equipment carries over. The characters must have wasted all of their money on hookers when we weren't playing as them.
 
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