E3 2011: Sony edition. Conference starts at 8pm est/7pm cst!

[quote name='knightsdwn']It's all good. Was just curious why you would dismiss the game so early on ;)[/QUOTE]

I didn't even realize Sly had so many hardcore fans to be honest.
 
[quote name='tcrash247']So E3 so far is 90% motion controlled games and handheld shit, I hope Nintendo comes through for me.[/QUOTE]

lolwut? are you serious?
 
[quote name='Llamaw00d']I was a bit disappointed that AT&T will be the sole provider for the US 3G version of the Vita. These exclusivity deals are the killers of market price correction. Two thumbs down just like I gave the iPhone when it first came out. After the first couple of demonstrations I figured I could wait a while and get it in a year or so after it's price has dropped a bit.[/QUOTE]

The only other company is Verizon, and it will require entire different hardware. It won't make sense at this point to have 2 different 3G model
 
[quote name='HeSaveDave']I didn't even realize Sly had so many hardcore fans to be honest.[/QUOTE]


slys a cool series but im surprised they still havent come out with a jak game.
 
[quote name='Ivanhoe']just going off of memory

PS vita price point was what I expected 249 and 299. I am more interested in what kind of apps we can use on it , how the internet works and multitasking etc
and how exactly will the 3G work? an extra cost i assume? but how much? 9.99/month? or free like kindle?? (which i doubt)


Dust 514 seems like a good concept but who knows if it will actually get released and work how its suppose to.

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Ivanhoe...........what I took away from the presentation was that it would go through the AT&T network and draw from your data plan through AT&T. If you didn't have a current plan with AT&T you would have to sign up for one. BOTH PREVIOUS STATEMENTS ARE MY PERSONAL CONCLUSIONS FROM WHAT I SAW AND ARE NOT BACKED UP BY PUBLISHED INFORMATION.

As far as Dust is concerned, I am actually pretty excited about that. I hope to be in the Beta for that.

Llama
 
Btw.. early MP access for UC3 as a Subway promo? How fuckin awesome is that? I'm wondering if it's a server test so that everything is running tip top when the retail game is released. Lord knows the Socom crew has yet to have a PS3 launch go smoothly and Warhawk was a bloody mess as well...
 
[quote name='QiG']Socom crew has yet to have a PS3 launch go smoothly[/QUOTE]

naughty dog is in another universe when compared to slant six and zipper
 
I think one of the biggest things to take note of is that the PS3 didn't receive a price drop OR a bigger HDD, something everyone was anticipating. I assume they could announce it sometime this week, but every E3 price drop I've ever seen has been during the company's big press conference.
 
[quote name='DOMINATOR912']I think one of the biggest things to take note of is that the PS3 didn't receive a price drop OR a bigger HDD, something everyone was anticipating. I assume they could announce it sometime this week, but every E3 price drop I've ever seen has been during the company's big press conference.[/QUOTE]

TGS is the better place to drop the bombs, right before the holidays.
 
[quote name='DOMINATOR912']I think one of the biggest things to take note of is that the PS3 didn't receive a price drop OR a bigger HDD, something everyone was anticipating. I assume they could announce it sometime this week, but every E3 price drop I've ever seen has been during the company's big press conference.[/QUOTE]


Your right, I forgot about a pricedrop...

Maybe after they stop making those 299 blackops bundle is when the regular 160gig will get a pricedrop?

I'm waiting on the best deal to buy another PS3.. maybe ill have to wait until around black friday.
 
I still think the price drops come when they are getting ready to reveal a new system. Right now, the PS3 is not ready and Xbox360 isn't either. I think we are at least a year off with price drops.
 
[quote name='DestroVega']what is PSVita... a phone?[/QUOTE]

No. PS Vita is what people have been calling NGP. It will have 3G access through the AT&T network to play games and chat and the such. It looks pretty cool with a front touch screen and dual front analog nubs and a back touch pad as well. 6-axis controller components, and other stuff. Looks similar to the PSP, maybe a bit larger, I'm not sure on that however.
 
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[quote name='Sir_Fragalot']Bingo. My major problem with Sony right now. I came out of this press conference interested in like nothing except for that Shooter from the guys who made EVE. Even the Vita has nothing that said wow, this is new, I want to play it. It was more ugh another *insert game here.[/quote]

I tend to agree. The only game I got excited for was the new Sly game, but no real new IP shown tonight.

I feel like I want to buy a Vita, but no game has said I need this yet.
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I'm not really a portable gamer, but I wonder if it is a little too big. Nicer for the older set with big hands, but I don't see this unseating Nintendo with the younger set. My reaction to the price is that they are using this as a loss leader, because I don't see how they are making a profit on these.

BTW, I'm amused about Levine talking about Motion Control. It sounds like he was among the closed minded here on the board with the "real gamers use gamepads". Glad his eyes were opened that motion control can be used in "core" games. I think too many have a prejudice against it.

And I lolled at the AT&T announcement. I had the same reaction.
 
No can unseat Nintendo, the demographic for the PSP has always been a different one -- adolescents who want to be "cooler" by having a sleek Sony device instead of a gameboy, and of course other older gamers.

PSP got crushed by the DS but it still took a very respectable share of the market. There's money to be made on both sides, it's just there's obviously a bigger casual market that Nintendo has a hold of. Obviously Sony can gain more ground if 3DS doesn't do something though.
 
We could still see a price drop soon or PS3's with larger HDD's & maybe N wireless. Maybe as early as August. Sony likes that time of year for that sort of thing. All depends on how PS3 does between now and then.

Sony may have put more emphasis on PS Vita and ending with it's price to give it the most exposure. Maybe after seeing MS's shitty showing they decided to hold back a thing or two. I found it a bit odd that the conference ended early instead of going for it's planned 2 hours.
 
I think Sony and MS kinda tied. They both sucked equally. They each had ONE exclusive that I care about. Gears 3 and Resistance 3. The rest was Kinect/Move bullcrap. Vita (besides the name) looked cool too.

Most of the stuff I'm looking forward to is cross platform. Skyrim, Rage, Ghost Recon, Modern Warfare 3, Battlefield 3, and Saint's Row 3.
 
[quote name='Llamaw00d']Dust looked pretty dang good to me as well.[/QUOTE]
it looked like a below average sci-fi shooter to me. those textures were terrible.
 
[quote name='Ivanhoe']Your right, I forgot about a pricedrop...
Maybe after they stop making those 299 blackops bundle is when the regular 160gig will get a pricedrop?
I'm waiting on the best deal to buy another PS3.. maybe ill have to wait until around black friday.[/QUOTE]Their bundling the remaining stand alone 160's w/COD & 320 w/move. The price drop delay may just be a stall to dwindle current stock levels before introducing the 500 GB HD sku.
 
[quote name='panzerfaust']No can unseat Nintendo, the demographic for the PSP has always been a different one -- adolescents who want to be "cooler" by having a sleek Sony device instead of a gameboy, and of course other older gamers.

PSP got crushed by the DS but it still took a very respectable share of the market. There's money to be made on both sides, it's just there's obviously a bigger casual market that Nintendo has a hold of. Obviously Sony can gain more ground if 3DS doesn't do something though.[/QUOTE]

I'm not expecting it to dethrone Nintendo...but I am expecting it to put up one helluva fight. When Nintendo and Sony have to fight for our money, we win.

Also, there's one thing that changes the dynamic this generation...with the PSP/DS battle, since DS had a touchscreen and the PSP did not, that meant there were games that simply could not work on the PSP. Now, that's changed. You can't really make a 3DS game that just cannot work for the Vita....unless they find a way to make the entire 3D thing mandatory for some games.
 
Vita looks nice...what a terrible name though. (Then again, I guess most console/handheld names are pretty stupid.) $250 is a great price point.

But, I don't really want portable games; would rather (just) have them on the PS3.
I'll take Uncharted though!

Nothing much for me from both Sony and Microsoft. Which is kind of a good thing...don't need to be spending money anyway.
 
[quote name='panzerfaust']Well DS still has dual-screens...[/QUOTE]

True, but I wouldn't be surprised if the total screen area on the Vita was comparable to the total screen area of the 3DS. In resolution, I know the Vita wins. Either way, overcoming the dual screen thing is a lot easier than overcoming the lack-of-a-touch-screen problem the PSP had.
 
the Vita trailer shows Dragon Crown, which looks very much like a VanillaWare game. That could be a day 1 purchase for me.
 
They need to tell us how we're going to be able to get PS3 versions of Vita games playable on PS3. Will we have to buy them alone or packed in with the Vita version, will they be on PSN, will they transfer from the Vita...
 
17 pages and no one has mentioned the lack of Kevin Butler? :shame:

My favorite unintentional moments of hilarity.
The Iceland guy announces Dust and you can tell it must say on his notes "(hold for applause)" or something as he briefly paused, and not a single person clapped. They didn't really do a good job of explaining what it is. At first it seemed like a killzone or warhawk type shooter, but then they pulled up and the view they were showing made it look like a real time strategy game.
Then of course the boos at AT&T is always good for a laugh.

Playstation suite, they announced it, didn't say anything specific about what it does, except that it runs on android and some other tablets, then were on to the next topic in like 20 seconds. Why even bother.

That will quite funny if there is cross-game chat on the vita before there is cross-game chat on the PS3 :lol:.

Ruin looks interesting, gameplay looks kinda similar to Diablo. I don't know about the persistent world aspect about it, so does that mean I could be sleeping and my stronghold could come under attack?

So Uncharted Vita is not by Naughty Dog, but is by another game studio? My interest in that dropped a bit.

3DS vs. Vita will be quite interesting as the DS vs. PSP strategy was similar to the Wii vs. PS3/Xbox 360 strategy, undercut the competition on price and offer a less powerful system. Now that it is $250 vs. $250 price is thrown out of the equation and it all comes down to the strength of the hardware and software and the price of the software. After the EPIC fail of the virtual boy I am surprised Nintendo had the balls to touch 3D on a portable gaming system again, as jettisoning that gimmick would probably have cut down on the hardware price quite a bit and allowed them to price it below the Vita.

Medieval move game looked horrible, methinks they must be having some problems with Sorcery since it was suspiciously absent.

On the price drop I think MS and Sony must be playing chicken. If neither of them flinches I don't think there will be a price drop for the PS3 or the Xbox 360. Looks like the rumored price drop for the move isn't going to happen since the Resistance 3 sharp shooter bundle is the same price as Socom sharp shooter bundle.
 
Dust is a very exciting idea if you're aware of what Eve Online is, and for an MMO shooter it looked as good as any other standalone.

Resistance 3 looked like a mess IMO. Much more hyped for Insomniac's Overstrike game.
 
[quote name='guardian_owl']
So Uncharted Vita is not by Naughty Dog, but is by another game studio? My interest in that dropped a bit.
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It's developed by Sony Bend, the same folks who made the PSP Syphon Filter games and Resistance Retribution which happen to be great games. Only Ready at Dawn would have probably made a superior version.
 
Syphon Filter and Resistane Retribution are pretty terrible "oh it's good for a handheld" type of games. That's exactly what Uncharted Vita looks like.

Nothing screamed "cool game," just "old game, new screen." This is what hurt the original PSP, but I won't judge the Vita for its launch titles. I'm hyped for the potential of a great library thanks to the online features and new controls.
 
[quote name='HeSaveDave']Did anyone catch the Vita release date? Need to mark my calendar.[/QUOTE]
"Before Holiday 2011" so probably October or November, PSP GO was released in North America on Oct 1st so they may follow that same pattern.
 
[quote name='panzerfaust']Dust is a very exciting idea if you're aware of what Eve Online is, and for an MMO shooter it looked as good as any other standalone. [/QUOTE]

As I understood their presentation, players in Dust would be able to act as mercenaries for players in Eve Online....effectively allowing Eve Online players to wage war against each other using the players in Dust as pawns. If that's really the direction they're going, I'll definitely be following it.
 
[quote name='panzerfaust']Syphon Filter and Resistane Retribution are pretty terrible "oh it's good for a handheld" type of games. That's exactly what Uncharted Vita looks like.

Nothing screamed "cool game," just "old game, new screen." This is what hurt the original PSP, but I won't judge the Vita for its launch titles. I'm hyped for the potential of a great library thanks to the online features and new controls.[/QUOTE]

"NGP could be the best thing to ever happen to the PSP"

http://gamrfeed.vgchartz.com/story/86552/the-ngp-could-be-the-best-thing-to-ever-happen-to-the-psp/
 
Why did you point me to that article?

I'm not saying old games are bad on a handheld (remakes are half the reason to get a PSP right now), I'm saying dumbed down versions of current console games aren't very enticing. You either truly match the feeling of a console game, or tailor your game to the handheld experience -- otherwise count me out.

People are excited for Uncharted Vita because it looks like what they play on PS3. Except we've only seen some generic jungle environments and admittedly lame gameplay. None of the elements that made Uncharted 2 one of the best games this generation are apparent yet. Where's the insane set gameplay pieces?

Wipeout right now looks like the better launch title, as it's pretty much the same game from system to system. Uncharted Vita will just feel like Uncharted Vita, or at least that's the impression they are giving.
 
[quote name='HeSaveDave']I think Sony and MS kinda tied. They both sucked equally. They each had ONE exclusive that I care about. Gears 3 and Resistance 3. The rest was Kinect/Move bullcrap. Vita (besides the name) looked cool too.[/QUOTE]

Both conferences had more than that, but what I want to know is why people hating on Move when it is OPTIONAL to use in a game. It seemed like they said it and moved on. Kinect, on the other hand, was blatant through MS's conference. Kinect seem to be pushed as the only thing you can use to experience "X" game title.
That is the difference.
Vita was cool. Except some games suffered some slowdown in the previews a little bit. Just noticing looking back at it.
Slight advantage to Sony, but Nintendo is probably going to run with it again this year given what they will offer. It is only theirs to win at this point.

Reason for not having Kevin Butler is simple. Sony wanted to not go crazy this year given all that has happened. They can do the commercials later down the road. But right now, Sony I think, is focused on getting gamers back to the brand, not to be entertained at a E3 show. It would of came off too schitck. Not saying it wouldn't have been nice, but it was focused on business, not just putting on a pretty face and a vaudeville show.
 
Sony had a much better software showing, period. Most "core" kinect games had optional usage as well, only Fable was mandatory -- and it's a clear failure.
 
Vita seems like an easy pass for me. I don't subscribe to a cell phone plan, why would i subscribe to AT&T just to play the next PSP? I don't social network, And I normally don't do multiplayer. Unless you can still buy single player games on some form of disk/memory card this is a complete and total pass.
 
Lot's of interesting stuff from Sony, not sure how much of it I'll end up really wanting. UC 3 for sure.

Anybody else disapointed by the lack of Agent? I was hoping we'd finally see something from it.
 
[quote name='praxus07']Vita seems like an easy pass for me. I don't subscribe to a cell phone plan, why would i subscribe to AT&T just to play the next PSP? I don't social network, And I normally don't do multiplayer. Unless you can still buy single player games on some form of disk/memory card this is a complete and total pass.[/QUOTE]

You don't need to have a data plan to play Vita. You do have wifi right? And besides, it's not like you have to be connected online at all times to play games. That'd be ridiculous lol.

And yes, Sony will still be selling physical games on a proprietary memory card thingy that they haven't really gone in depth with.
 
Speaking of Ruin, did anyone notice that when he resumed his progress on the PS3 version, all it did was start him at the beginning of the same demo he'd just run on the Vita? His progress through that area and where he ended weren't reflected at all.
 
[quote name='knightsdwn']You don't need to have a data plan to play Vita. You do have wifi right? And besides, it's not like you have to be connected online at all times to play games. That'd be ridiculous lol.

And yes, Sony will still be selling physical games on a proprietary memory card thingy that they haven't really gone in depth with.[/QUOTE]

Ah good...If it was digital download only for buying games I'd def have no use for it. And I have wifi, but all this talk about AT&T and 3g's (whatever that is) had me scared for a sec.

Seems like everything is centered on movement controls (Yuck) and social networking/multiplayer anymore. Both of which I've got below zero use for.

forgot to add 3D as well. Cannot stand that everything these days HAS to be in 3D. First off it gives me migraines, second it's just stupid, IMHO.
 
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[quote name='praxus07']Ah good...If it was digital download only for buying games I'd def have no use for it. And I have wifi, but all this talk about AT&T and 3g's (whatever that is) had me scared for a sec.

Seems like everything is centered on movement controls (Yuck) and social networking/multiplayer anymore. Both of which I've got below zero use for.[/QUOTE]

They said that they wouldn't lock anybody into playing a certain way. They said they were going to call it play your well so its just optional like the move
 
The conference was a little dull - even though I enjoyed the content more than Microsofts it felt slower. Uncharted 3 in 3D was outstanding -- and the only thing cool about the Resistance 3 footage in 3D was the pretty water drops that pop out.
 
[quote name='JustYourAverageJoe']Speaking of Ruin, did anyone notice that when he resumed his progress on the PS3 version, all it did was start him at the beginning of the same demo he'd just run on the Vita? His progress through that area and where he ended weren't reflected at all.[/QUOTE]

I noticed that too. I was wondering if it was a technical mis-step or if picking up your save is more based on your last checkpoint versus a save state type situation.
 
[quote name='panzerfaust']Why did you point me to that article?

I'm not saying old games are bad on a handheld (remakes are half the reason to get a PSP right now), I'm saying dumbed down versions of current console games aren't very enticing. You either truly match the feeling of a console game, or tailor your game to the handheld experience -- otherwise count me out.[/QUOTE]
by having a better control setup to go with the current PSP library Vita has a chance to have the best launch library ever...if there's alot more games avail. thru the store at launch.

I like the monster hunter series but never really played through the 3 I have b/c of the controls I'm sure those use to the HD games will definitely appreciate having both analogs to better the game experience. Add in the PSP to PS3 games & possible Vita compatiblity with these I'm really excited about the possibilities.
And the price is spot on for once AT&T not so much but I have an iPhone so definitely looking for AT&T to offer a bundle w/savings.
 
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