Format War - HD DVD vs. Blu-Ray - *Its Over...Toshiba Swings White Flag*

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[quote name='Snake2715']I guess this as good of a place as any to ask.

Whats everyones feeling on ISF calibration of their HDTV sets? I got a guy from AVS forums that will be up my way in Feb, I am fairly confident that I want to get it done, but some outside AVS forums input would be nice.[/quote]Worth it if really have that kind of money to spend.

It's pretty much impossible for us as average joes to accurately set colors, and some of the other fine tuning.
 
So is it safe to assume the war is over now and that if I buy a PS3 to play Blu-Ray movies that in fact Blu-Ray will win and I won't be stuck with an obsolete player and format in 6 months? I really want to watch Hi-Def movies but I refuse to pick a format that will fail.
 
[quote name='guyver2077']right well im just looking around in case i get the option of purchasing another tv. i dont want to cheap out anymore and i want a 120hz set

it would have to be at bestbuy instore so im looking at 46in samsungs and sony.

that 52in is actually priced less than the 46in xbr. so thats why i looked at it. it is probably too big for my bedroom anyways but the price stood out.


Sucks having this dead tv in my room, might have to bring out my old trinitron tube to atleast watch football in sd! ahh :([/quote]

I haven't heard good things on AVS about the 120hz TV's from some, some love it, others not so much. I personally am not a big fan of DLP's as the bulbs only last 5,000 to 8,000 hours. I think the Sony SXRD get better reviews and I think they last longer. If I was going rear projection, I would get one of those, which saddens me that sony is no longer making them.
 
[quote name='jimbodan']So is it safe to assume the war is over now and that if I buy a PS3 to play Blu-Ray movies that in fact Blu-Ray will win and I won't be stuck with an obsolete player and format in 6 months? I really want to watch Hi-Def movies but I refuse to pick a format that will fail.[/QUOTE]

The way I see it , if you do buy one , and that happens at worst you end up with a PS3 .

That is very unlikely to happen though , hell I went out and picked one up .
 
[quote name='jimbodan']So is it safe to assume the war is over now and that if I buy a PS3 to play Blu-Ray movies that in fact Blu-Ray will win and I won't be stuck with an obsolete player and format in 6 months? I really want to watch Hi-Def movies but I refuse to pick a format that will fail.[/quote]

It's virtually guaranteed that Blu-Ray has won the format war against HD DVD. However, it remains to be seen if it can drag itself out of niche status and become a mainstream product. Of course, even if it stays niche, it wouldn't necessarily be "obsolete". Title availability would just be somewhat limited (blockbusters and cult favorites mostly), like in the days of LaserDisc.

Of course, that wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing. At the very least, it would mean we'd never have to avoid foolscreen 16x9 versions of movies that were originally 2.40:1, and studios would have to keep putting out quality encodes.

In my opinion though, I think the final results will be somewhere in between. BR will never be as popular as DVD, because a very large minority of the public won't care at all about the extra detail and sound quality. But at the same time, it already looks to become something far greater (in terms of adoption) than LD could ever hope for. So I personally think we're set.

Short version of the above diatribe: Go ahead and get your PS3. You'll be able to get movies to feed it with for a very long time. :)
 
[quote name='jimbodan']So is it safe to assume the war is over now and that if I buy a PS3 to play Blu-Ray movies that in fact Blu-Ray will win and I won't be stuck with an obsolete player and format in 6 months? I really want to watch Hi-Def movies but I refuse to pick a format that will fail.[/quote]
No, it's not safe.

Blu-Ray has lost the format war, and it'll die before the year is over.
 
[quote name='gokou36']Didn't I call your dumbass out earlier? Stop trying to blame Sony when its clearly Toshiba and Microsoft that keeps this stupid war going.[/QUOTE]

You are pathetic.

Again, if I'm such a dumbass, please pummel me with the real facts.

Oh, that's right, you can't because I actually back up my posts with facts from reality instead of just posting "hurf durf u r dumb"

- edit [quote name='H.Cornerstone']better scratch protection[/QUOTE]

Please stop listing this.

It's not an exclusive feature and the only reason Sony pays extra for it is because they have to (since the data is so close to the surface of the disc). It's the solution they came up with after they decided not to put BR in plastic cartridges like they originally planned.
 
[quote name='Sporadic']You are pathetic.

Again, if I'm such a dumbass, please pummel me with the real facts.

Oh, that's right, you can't because I actually back up my posts with facts from reality instead of just posting "hurf durf u r dumb"

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Please stop listing this.

It's not an exclusive feature and the only reason Sony pays extra for it is because they have to (since the data is so close to the surface of the disc). It's the solution they came up with after they decided not to put BR in plastic cartridges like they originally planned.[/quote]

Does HD-DVD use it? Nope. I call that exclusive.
 
How scratch proof are Blu-Ray movies/games? It can't work 100% of the time since I saw someone complain about used PS3 games in one of the Gamefly threads.

Does anyone have a link to site that has tested how scratch proof the disks are ? I'd be shocked it this was a real bullet point feature but no one has tested how far the feature goes.

EDIT:
Found this vid on youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5jEbZt6AIQ

Pretty impressive, my only tiny problem with it is all he tests is the disk booting up. After the first test the disk might hit errors in the middle. But if anyone else knows of better testing pls post.
 
[quote name='jimbodan']So is it safe to assume the war is over now and that if I buy a PS3 to play Blu-Ray movies that in fact Blu-Ray will win and I won't be stuck with an obsolete player and format in 6 months? I really want to watch Hi-Def movies but I refuse to pick a format that will fail.[/QUOTE]

If you're that concerned, you should just wait two more months. I'm somewhat confident the only non-BD of the major studios, Universal and Paramount, will at least have announced plans to release BD movies by that point.

It's virtually a lock that BD will win the war, but they still have not. That's about as simple as I can state it. So, if that's not sufficient, just wait another couple of months.
 
[quote name='Sporadic']You are pathetic.

Again, if I'm such a dumbass, please pummel me with the real facts.

Oh, that's right, you can't because I actually back up my posts with facts from reality instead of just posting "hurf durf u r dumb"
[/QUOTE]

Boy, you are fucking retarded. Which *facts* are you looking for? Funny how you say you back up your posts yet you didn't even refute ANY of my posts and tell me to give you proofs.
 
[quote name='H.Cornerstone']Does HD-DVD use it? Nope. I call that exclusive.[/QUOTE]

Can they use it? Yup, if they are willing to pay extra. Is it necessary? No, which is why they choose not to use it.

[quote name='gokou36']Boy, you are fucking retarded. Which *facts* are you looking for? Funny how you say you back up your posts yet you didn't even refute ANY of my posts and tell me to give you proofs.[/QUOTE]

Anything, you stupid fuck. Only thing you do is quote my post and go "hurf durf u r teh dumbiest"

How about a reason? Why is what I'm posting so stupid? Refute it.
 
[quote name='Sporadic']Can they use it? Yup, if they are willing to pay extra. Is it necessary? No, which is why they choose not to use it.[/QUOTE]

It doesn't matter. Fact is, its more durable than HD-DVD.


[quote name='Sporadic']Anything, you stupid fuck. Only thing you do is quote my post and go "hurf durf u r teh dumbiest"

How about a reason? Why is what I'm posting so stupid? Refute it.[/QUOTE]

Oh so now whatever people say, they have to back their shit up? How about you ask for proof instead of telling me to provide everything thats been WELL known for over a year now.

Are you racing with Gizmo for the fucktard award? At least he knows when to stop acting like a dumbass.
 
[quote name='gokou36']It doesn't matter. Fact is, its more durable than HD-DVD.[/QUOTE]

No, it does matter.

It's not exclusive if it is available to everybody and the other parties just decline to use it.

[quote name='gokou36']Oh so now whatever people say, they have to back their shit up? How about you ask for proof instead of telling me to provide everything thats been WELL known for over a year now.

Are you racing with Gizmo for the fucktard award? At least he knows when to stop acting like a dumbass.[/QUOTE]

No, see here's the real issue.

I post. My post usually includes facts and aren't even in response to you.

You post. Call me stupid.

I post. Asking for reasons why you think what I'm posting is so stupid.

You post. Calling me stupid again and saying everything is "common knowledge"

So again, if it's so easy to, smack me around with these facts that have been WELL known for over a year or go eat a cock.
 
[quote name='Trakan']Alright guys, let's cool it a bit.[/QUOTE]


I know this is getting a bit crazy :rofl:

Wait til the end of the month when the last of the hold outs switch sides....
 
[quote name='Sporadic']No, it does matter.

It's not exclusive if it is available to everybody and the other parties just decline to use it.



No, see here's the real issue.

I post. My post usually includes facts and aren't even in response to you.

You post. Call me stupid.

I post. Asking for reasons why you think what I'm posting is so stupid.

You post. Calling me stupid again and saying everything is "common knowledge"

So again, if it's so easy to, smack me around with these facts that have been WELL known for over a year or go eat a cock.[/QUOTE]

Hey genius, i'm not the only one that called you a retard. Its well known that its more durable, its well known that Sony tried to work with Toshiba and yet still wanted to use their inferior product. Why don't you go do some research before you get into these arguments. And i'm sure you enjoy doing that last comment.
 
[quote name='Trakan']Alright guys, let's cool it a bit.[/quote]
Batemanas.jpg


"Hey guys, just cool it with the anti-HD DVD remarks."

Seriously, leave sporadic be.
 
[quote name='Sporadic']It's not exclusive if it is available to everybody and the other parties just decline to use it.[/QUOTE]No. BD's are the only media using it, it's exclusive to them. Are you saying the Matrix Trilogy and Batman Begins weren't HD-DVD exclusives because they "could've" been on Blu-Ray, Warner just declined to release them?

Logic on the other hand isn't exclusive to us, you've just declined to use it.
 
Could the mass lowering of hd dvd players some how make the race closer?

Think about it, as these things keep dropping in price, people will just say "what the heck" and buy it so they can experience hd quality early. I could see hd dvd players in almost every household at a 50 dollar price point. Some people could just be in the market for a new dvd player and end up getting an hd dvd player for the upscaling alone.

This may just be my optimisim speaking, but I believe this is what happen during the JVC/VHS vs Betamax fight. We all know how this turned out...
 
[quote name='mykevermin']I recall reading that some game levels were shortened/chopped up on the GC due to "technical limitations." Beats me.



Yeah, I'm not joking. Got it launch morning and it still has had zero problems. I'm sure many people had problems with their PS2 (DRE and the like), but I would imagine a far less likely person to meet on the street would be the one who has a working launch 360.

EDIT: Now, to be fair, I haven't really used it very much since November 2006 - only for Guitar Hero games and some Japanese imports (King of Colosseum II FTW!). In those cases, I run everything off the HDD, so the only time the disc was used in the past 13 months had been to boot the console and that's it.



Animosity is a strange creature. I don't quite grasp a few things:
1) Why, if you want to pull the "I'm sick of unreliable hardware from Sony" card out, that you would instead purchase the on-the-damn-record-with-a-1-billion-dollar-replacement-program single most unreliable piece of hardware in video game history. Unreliable hardware is unreliable hardware, irrespective of who makes it.
2) Why "programming nightmares" matter to the gamer. What didn't come out on the PS2 because it was incredibly hard to program for? It's a red herring argument.



Not that I would prefer the above argument, but I experienced the single creepiest motherfuckin' bathroom attendant (and let's not fool ourselves: y'ever meet one that *wasn't* at least slightly creepy?) in my whole life. I'll spare you the details, but suffice to say, between him and hearing a house remix of "Welcome to the Jungle," I'm amazed I can still say I enjoyed myself last night.[/QUOTE]

I'm not bitching about their hardware in the sense of reliability but it's difficulty in programming for. They're repeated this mistake twice. I would argue Sega or Nintendo would never make such a mistake twice because they're first and foremost video game companies.
 
[quote name='gokou36']Hey genius, i'm not the only one that called you a retard. Its well known that its more durable, its well known that Sony tried to work with Toshiba and yet still wanted to use their inferior product. Why don't you go do some research before you get into these arguments. And i'm sure you enjoy doing that last comment.[/QUOTE]

No, see again here's the issue.

This is the Format War thread, that means there are usually two sides and people post their opinions backed up by facts and logic. Notice how when people call each other names, it's usually followed by some facts or even ideas to back that up that opinon?

I don't care if I'm called a name as long as the person attempts to back it up with something, anything.

This is where you are failing. You aren't backing up anything. You are taking the 8 year old approach to debate.

So, instead of just calling you a name, how about I just tear your post apart?

[quote name='gokou36']Its well known that its more durable[/QUOTE]

I never said they weren't. I just said that the reason behind that (TDK Durabis/other scratch proof technology) isn't exclusive because really it isn't. Any DVD, CD, or HD-DVD manufacturer can use it but they opt not to due to cost.

Blu-Ray HAS to use it because if they didn't, their discs would be fucked since it was originally designed to be in a plastic case due to the fact the data is so close to the surface.

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Don't believe me, let's check out TDK's own site.

[quote name='TDK']DURABIS: Making Bare Blu-ray Discs a Reality

Because Blu-ray Disc media offers considerably higher density recording on a disc with same physical dimensions as a DVD, precise laser operation is especially critical. This makes it essential to protect the recording surface of Blu-ray Disc media against scratches and smudges.

To protect the disc surface, the Blu-ray Disc media that's currently marketed in Japan is encased in a protective cartridge. DURABIS recording surface technology is an essentially component in realizing bare, cartridge-free Blu-ray Disc media.

An original TDK technology, DURABIS is the result of TDK's unyielding conviction that irreplaceable data and content must be safeguarded. DURABIS is certain to continue facilitating the evolution of optical discs with unprecedented capacities.[/QUOTE]

[quote name='gokou36']its well known that Sony tried to work with Toshiba and yet still wanted to use their inferior product. [/QUOTE]

Yeah, it's very well know that Sony/Toshiba basically said "hey if you guys just want to stop that AOD/Blu-Ray thing, we would be cool with it"

It had nothing to do with what format was better. It had EVERYTHING to do with the fact that Sony owns most of the patents with Blu-Ray/wanted the royalties money from it being the back bone of HDM while Toshiba didn't want to lose their royalties cash cow from DVD.

Don't believe me again?

[quote name='FT.com 2005']Toshiba and Sony said talks were continuing but, two months into negotiations, they were still far apart on which disc format to use as the basis for a standard for films and computer games. "We are continuing discussions . . . but Sony is saying its own disc format will be the basis for a unified format while we believe it would be better to base the format on our [HD-DVD] disc structure," said Toshiba.

Meanwhile, Sony claimed the technical evidence supported the superiority of the Blu-ray format. "Unless there is something superior about their format, we will not consider it."[/QUOTE]

Or let's go back to 2005 Businessweek.

No company has more at stake than Sony. Long one of the most innovative companies in electronics, it stumbled badly in recent years. With Blu-ray, it has the opportunity for a triple play. It'll reap royalties from all the disks sold with its technology. Its movie business could see a resurgence in lucrative DVD sales. And it could see sales soar for its electronics gear, including HDTVs, movie cameras, Blu-ray optical drives, and especially its new PlayStation game consoles, which will include a Blu-ray drive for playing movies. Sony's people have "bet the entire future on this," says analyst Michael Pachter of Wedbush Morgan Securities. "It's too important for them to lose, so they will do everything they can to win."
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[quote name='gokou36']Why don't you go do some research before you get into these arguments. [/QUOTE]

Oh, I do.

Too bad for you going to blu-ray.com isn't considered research or else you would have had this thing in the bag.

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[quote name='TimPV3']No. BD's are the only media using it, it's exclusive to them. Are you saying the Matrix Trilogy and Batman Begins weren't HD-DVD exclusives because they "could've" been on Blu-Ray, Warner just declined to release them?

Logic on the other hand isn't exclusive to us, you've just declined to use it.[/QUOTE]

That would have been an awesome burn if it wasn't for the fact that there are DVD-Rs that use that type of technology.

Imation, TDK, Panasonic, Verbatim and Maxell all have premium options.

http://manifest-tech.com/media_dvd/hard_coat.htm
 
[quote name='Sporadic']It had nothing to do with what format was better. It had EVERYTHING to do with the fact that Sony owns most of the patents with Blu-Ray/wanted the royalties money from it being the back bone of HDM while Toshiba didn't want to lose their royalties cash cow from DVD.

Don't believe me again?



Or let's go back to 2005 Businessweek.

Oh, I do.

Too bad for you going to blu-ray.com isn't considered research or else you would have had this thing in the bag.

[/QUOTE]

So why are you telling me this when I already know that Sony has the most stake in it? Look who's shelling out the most money so they can gain from it, duh. If you think the better format wasn't the reason why, you are dead wrong. Had HD-DVD held more disc space then your argument about Sony getting more royalties from it would've been valid.

Meanwhile, Sony claimed the technical evidence supported the superiority of the Blu-ray format. "Unless there is something superior about their format, we will not consider it."
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Btw, you proved yourself wrong as well by saying it had nothing to do with which format is better.
 
[quote name='Sarang01']Sporadic is it really true that the launch BR's for the U.S. shipped without the scratch protection or is this incorrect?[/QUOTE]

I'm pretty sure that was incorrect.

Only thing I could find was an old post from AVS about it.

All BD-ROMs have a hardcoat applied...it's required under the current spec.

That said, the whiz-bang demo of Sharpies and screwdrivers done by the BDA (on behalf of TDK) was for DURABIS2, which is *not* being used. The hardcoats formulations being used offer good-to-excellent scratch resistance and some nominal level of dust/fingerprint resistance..once more replicators come online, we may even see in-the-field differences for dust/fingerprint resistance, which may or may not become an issue (fingerprints are a potential Achilles' Heel for Blu-ray, owing to the lens/disc design).
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http://archive2.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=689750

[quote name='gokou36']So why are you telling me this when I already know that Sony has the most stake in it? Look who's shelling out the most money so they can gain from it, duh. If you think the better format wasn't the reason why, you are dead wrong. Had HD-DVD held more disc space then your argument about Sony getting more royalties from it would've been valid.

Btw, you proved yourself wrong as well by saying it had nothing to do with which format is better.[/QUOTE]

What?

That is exactly the reason why both sides refused to budge when it came to talks of merging.

Of course Sony played up the fact "they were more advance" while Toshiba played up the fact that HD-DVD didn't require brand new manufactoring lines and other crap but it all completely boiled down to who was going to make what from the royalties.

Shit, I even bolded it for you in the quote.

"We are continuing discussions . . . but Sony is saying its own disc format will be the basis for a unified format while we believe it would be better to base the format on our [HD-DVD] disc structure,"
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AKA

Sony believes their disc format should be the basis for a unified format so they can rake in the royalites while we believe they should go fuck themselves while we continue to rake in the royalites from a unified format.

Toshiba could have came up with a 100GB disc and Sony still wouldn't have budged because they wanted the royalites, they felt like they got the short end of the stick with DVD and Blu-Ray was their chance to try to take most of the pie.

- edit Also why does having more disc space automatically make it the best format? I know people have a hard-on over futureproofing but we have already seen that 30GBs is plenty for just about any movie and compression is only going to get better with time. What is so bad about having the movie on one disc and the extras on another?
 
[quote name='Sporadic']I'm pretty sure that was incorrect.

Only thing I could find was an old post from AVS about it.



http://archive2.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=689750



What?

That is exactly the reason why both sides refused to budge when it came to talks of merging.

Of course Sony played up the fact "they were more advance" while Toshiba played up the fact that HD-DVD didn't require brand new manufactoring lines and other crap but it all completely boiled down to who was going to make what from the royalties.

Shit, I even bolded it for you in the quote.



AKA

Sony believes their disc format should be the basis for a unified format so they can rake in the royalites while we believe they should go fuck themselves while we can continue to rake in the royalites from a unified format.[/QUOTE]

You seriously can't be that stupid can you? You bolded why Sony says their disc format should be the basis of a unified format, but you didn't bold the part where they said their format was BETTER. Why should Sony consider Toshiba's format when its inferior?!? Toshiba could have had a piece of the pie had they joined up with Sony, but they were too fucking greedy.


[quote name='Sporadic']Toshiba could have came up with a 100GB disc and Sony still won't have budge because they wanted the royalites, they felt like they got the short end of the stick with DVD.[/quote]

Did it happen? Nope, so don't make assumptions.
 
[quote name='gokou36']You seriously can't be that stupid can you? You bolded why Sony says their disc format should be the basis of a unified format, but you didn't bold the part where they said their format was BETTER. Why should Sony consider Toshiba's format when its inferior?!? Toshiba could have had a piece of the pie had they joined up with Sony, but they were too fucking greedy. [/QUOTE]

Are you kidding me?

Of course Sony is going to say their format is better. What did you expect them say "well, these require whole new manufacturing plants plus it cost more to make the disc and we are kind of rushing it out. in fact, we are betting everything on the fact we hope to have a massive install base by putting it in the PS3"

Again (unless you believe the PR and then I have to ask you how stupid can you be) it all boiled down to who was getting what.

Sony wanted the whole pie while Toshiba didn't want their pie taken away.

Simple as that, greed on both sides and the refusal to yield.

- edit [quote name='gokou36']Did it happen? Nope, so don't make assumptions.[/QUOTE]

Wow, #-o

I think you need to bow out of this thread already.

Most of this thread is based on assumptions and you can't get a more correct one than Sony wanted all of the royalties instead of missing out again like they did with DVD.
 
[quote name='Sporadic']Are you kidding me?

Of course Sony is going to say their format is better. What did you expect them say "well, these require whole new manufacturing plants plus it cost more to make the disc and we are kind of rushing it out. in fact, we are betting everything on the fact we hope to have a massive install base by putting it in the PS3"

Again (unless you believe the PR and then I have to ask you how stupid you can be) it all boiled down to who was getting what.

Sony wanted the whole pie while Toshiba didn't want their pie taken away.

Simple as that, greed on both sides.

- edit

Wow, #-o

I think you need to bow out of this thread already.

Most of this thread is based on assumptions and you can't get a more correct one than Sony wanted all of the royalties instead of missing out again.[/QUOTE]

Wow you're a dumbass. Sony willing to have talks with them means they want the whole thing? You sound bitter about Sony, did Sony buttrape you or something? I see that you have a thing for eat a dick, maybe too much of Toshiba's?

I love how you go from *facts* to *assumptions* now when you were proven wrong.
 
[quote name='gokou36']...but you didn't bold the part where [Sony] said their format was BETTER.[/quote]I am the best poster in the world; nobody's posts are world wonderful or filled with more excitement than mine.

And yet, just because I say it, doesn't make it true. Weird.

Gokou, I've jumped to this last page of a 91 page thread and only read this page, and already I at the very least respect Sporadic, but wish I had a banhammer the size of Wisconsin for your ass (alas, although my posts be best, I am no mod).

I don't really care either way on the formats, BTW; I'm neutral. I was partial to HD-DVD, but I have lately been thinking since Warner's switch there's not much left for them. I think I mainly liked the color of the cases more than anything; red>blue to me.
 
[quote name='gokou36']Sony willing to have talks with them means they want the whole thing? [/QUOTE]

Both sides (not just Sony) came together trying to end it before it started but those talks basically amounted to both Sony and Toshiba saying "hey how about you bow out and let us do our thing"

[quote name='gokou36']Wow you're a dumbass. You sound bitter about Sony, did Sony buttrape you or something? I see that you have a thing for eat a dick, maybe too much of Toshiba's?

I love how you go from *facts* to *assumptions* now when you were proven wrong.[/QUOTE]

wtf?

Are we even talking about the same thing? How was I proven wrong?
 
[quote name='GrilledWitOnions']I am the best poster in the world; nobody's posts are world wonderful or filled with more excitement than mine.

And yet, just because I say it, doesn't make it true. Weird.

Gokou, I've jumped to this last page of a 91 page thread and only read this page, and already I at the very least respect Sporadic, but wish I had a banhammer the size of Wisconsin for your ass (alas, although my posts be best, I am no mod).

I don't really care either way on the formats, BTW; I'm neutral. I was partial to HD-DVD, but I have lately been thinking since Warner's switch there's not much left for them. I think I mainly liked the color of the cases more than anything; red>blue to me.[/QUOTE]

lol @ picking sides. Are you his HD-DVD buttbuddy? You're not neutral if you're partial to HD-DVD, that just shows that you were pro HD-DVD until it went downhill and now you jumpshipped. I proved him wrong with his own quotes yet he's still trying to make himself look good.
 
Thought you guys might get a chuckle out of this. There's a few goof-ups in it, but overall a pretty solid and funny piece:

[media]http://www.youtube.com/v/friS4OOcdgQ&rel=0&color1=0x234900&color2=0x4e9e00&border=0[/media]
 
Picked up Superman Returns and Enter the Dragon (my first kung-fu movie) today on Blu. The Spiderman Trilogy should be in by this weekend :D

My collection is growing!

I think, like some of you guys, I'm getting hooked on HDM over games.
 
[quote name='seanr1221']Picked up Superman Returns and Enter the Dragon (my first kung-fu movie) today on Blu. The Spiderman Trilogy should be in by this weekend :D

My collection is growing!

I think, like some of you guys, I'm getting hooked on HDM over games.[/quote]Exactly what happened to me.

My interest in games has been fading quickly over the last few years though.
 
[quote name='dallow']Exactly what happened to me.

My interest in games has been fading quickly over the last few years though.[/QUOTE]

I think it's the time that hit me. On a typical day I don't have the time to start up a game and get into it (this is why Rock Band is perfect for me).
 
[quote name='ITDEFX']:rofl: good one Geko!!! What movie is this?[/quote]
It's called Der Untergang, or literally "The Downfall". It's a German-language film about the last days of Hitler. That scene in particular is where his generals are telling him that the war is lost and the Allies are advancing on Berlin, which leads up to his suicide.
 
[quote name='dallow']Exactly what happened to me.

My interest in games has been fading quickly over the last few years though.[/QUOTE]

I go through cycles. Gamed a ton in the SNES/Genesis days and the first few years of the N64/PSX generation.

Then didn't game as much and spent a lot more time watching movies. Started to game more in the middle of last gen, then faded back to movies again until this fall.

All the great Q4 2007 games have had me gaming a ton and watching fewer DVDs etc. But looking into 2008 I see a lot less games coming out that look like must plays to me, so I'll probably shift back into more movies and TV on DVD again.
 
hd dvd isnt giving up yet...

[quote name='ap'] Toshiba Slashes Prices
On HD DVD Players
Associated Press
January 14, 2008 11:59 a.m.

Toshiba Corp. announced an aggressive campaign to bolster its HD DVD movie disc format against Sony-backed Blu-ray technology, cutting prices on players to as low as $149.99.

The HD DVD camp suffered a serious blow earlier this month, when Time Warner Inc.'s Warner Bros. said it would stop publishing movies on HD DVD in May, to focus on Blu-ray and regular DVD.

That leaves only two major studios, Paramount and Universal, still supporting HD DVD, while five support Blu-ray.

Toshiba on Monday slashed the suggested retail price of its cheapest player, the HD-A3, from $299.99 to $149.99. The price for the HD-A30 was also halved, from $399.99 to $199.99, while the price on the high-end HD-A35 went from $499.99 to $299.99.

HD DVD players have been cheaper than Blu-ray players for a while, and sales of standalone players have been strong. But Blu-ray has benefited from Sony Corp.'s cachet among video enthusiasts, as well as the ability of the PlayStation 3 game console to play Blu-ray discs.

"While price is one of the consideration elements for the early adopter, it is a deal-breaker for the mainstream consumer," said Yoshi Uchiyama, group vice president of digital audio and video at Toshiba America Consumer Products.

Toshiba also said it planned an extended campaign of TV, print and online advertising to promote the format.

The availability of two competing formats -- and the confusion and uncertainty it's sowed among buyers -- has been widely blamed for the slow adoption of high-definition players in general.

Copyright © 2008 Associated Press[/quote]
 
[quote name='mykevermin']Well, Nokia's still supporting the N-Gage, too.[/quote]

Yeah but the N-gage was good, best handheld C64 I've ever had.
 
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