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[quote name='asheskitty']Finally DA2 at a price I'm willing to pay. it's worth[/QUOTE]

;)

[quote name='Honeybaked Ham']DA2 shows as 3.99 for me was it a price mistake earlier?[/QUOTE]

I just checked a half hour ago and it was 85% of so. Now it's 80%. I guess Gamersgate has been overdue for a price mistake. :p
 
[quote name='Motoki'];)[/QUOTE]

For some people - ain't that (what they're willing to play and what it's worth) pretty much the same thing? ;)

Yes, I am actually one of the few who probably liked DA2, despite my numerous complaints about it...


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[quote name='Motoki'];
I just checked a half hour ago and it was 85% of so. Now it's 80%. I guess Gamersgate has been overdue for a price mistake. :p[/QUOTE]

Hey, maybe you do know...
...When was their last pricing error? ;)
 
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If they would have called it Dragon Age: Exodus like was originally planned I think it would have been viewed as more of a side game/spin off hence carried less expectations and many fans of the original would not have been so let down, general opinion of the game would have been somewhat higher etc.

It didn't help the gaming press way, way overstated and overhyped this game either. PC Gamer suggested it may be "The RPG of the decade" when it was released in 2011, one year into the decade. The press hyperbole was way out of control.

But tired argument is tired. That dead horse has been beat many, many, many times on many places, first and foremost being the Bioware forum.

FWIW I think DA2 is a average if forgottable action RPG but a terrible Dragon Age Origins sequel. I don't think it's a bad game per say but I think it's a bad sequel.

OF COURSE THIS IS JUST MY OPINION SO NEED NEED TO BACK AND FORTH INTERNET LAST WORD ARGUMENT THIS ALL TO HELL.

kthxbai
 
[quote name='Syntax Error']Dragon Age 2 is currently $2.79 or $2.23 with Comp.

Origins: Ultimate Ed. is $5.99 ($4.79 Comp)

Or get both in the Complete Pack for $7.99 ($6.39)

Amazon's had about the same price for the pack before but I haven't seen a la carte pricing for DA2 that low before.[/QUOTE]

[quote name='asheskitty']Finally DA2 at a price I'm willing to pay.[/QUOTE]

Not really a "complete" pack without DLC for DA2 though.

Does anyone know where to find an updated (fully patched) version of this game:
http://www.gamersgate.com/DD-DREEFS/dead-reefs

I can't find a patch to fix the end game killing bug (and all the other ones) and the reviews say that GG is only offering v 1.0. I'd like to be able to finish a game no matter how cheap it is.
 
[quote name='MysterD']For some people - ain't that (what they're willing to play and what it's worth) pretty much the same thing? ;)

Yes, I am actually one of the few who probably liked DA2, despite my numerous complaints about it...[/QUOTE]


For me it's a distinction.

After playing something I liked, it's generally worth more than I paid, e.g. BL1 GOTY I paid $7.50 for, played 128 hours. It's worth more than the $7.50 I paid for it; the difference between what I paid and what it's worth is gained valued. If I knew I would have liked it so much, I'd have been happy paying more for it.

After playing something I discovered I didn't like, e.g. NFS: Shift, it's worth less to me. That difference between what I paid and what it's worth is lost value.

I can generally only guess at a game's value before buying it, so I have to factor in risk of not liking it. This pushes what I'll pay for it down, resulting in most games I like being worth more than what I paid.

Games with known issues/controversy, I'll only pay much less for, though they might turn out to be worth much more. I will pick NFS: MW (2012) when the price is right. The PC version has had some bad performance issues that kept me from shelling out $20 for it at Xmas. Similarly DA2 has had quite a bit of rage around it, but hasn't hit too cheap on it's own (Tony had some good total-DA packs, but already owning DA:OU wiped out the value for me).

Anyhow, that's the difference. I tend to be very precise with my language. :robot:
 
[quote name='Motoki']OF COURSE THIS IS JUST MY OPINION SO NEED NEED TO BACK AND FORTH INTERNET LAST WORD ARGUMENT THIS ALL TO HELL.[/QUOTE]


You don't think the same way I do, Motoki?!

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@Motoki

I thought DA2 was good, but certainly not the masterpiece that was DAO.
Not many games are the masterpiece DAO was, anyways.

Anyways, you brought up something interesting I didn't know - DA2's original title was DA: Exodus.
I wonder why didn't they just call it DA: Exodus?
Motoki, any clue on that one...?
 
There's little bits about DA:Exodus being the original title of DA2 around the net if you search.

https://twitter.com/BioMarkDarrah/status/264807509787807745
http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/9/index/5377205/1
http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/141/index/6351363/1
http://www.giantbomb.com/dragon-age...that-dragon-age-2-was-originally-name-486824/

I'm not entirely sure if it was due to it being a different enough game from the original or because they thought including a number scares off new players who feel like they have to have played the 1st, probably the latter, but I think it would have worked better personally. *shrug*
 
[quote name='asheskitty']For me it's a distinction.

After playing something I liked, it's generally worth more than I paid, e.g. BL1 GOTY I paid $7.50 for, played 128 hours. It's worth more than the $7.50 I paid for it; the difference between what I paid and what it's worth is gained valued. If I knew I would have liked it so much, I'd have been happy paying more for it.

After playing something I discovered I didn't like, e.g. NFS: Shift, it's worth less to me. That difference between what I paid and what it's worth is lost value.

I can generally only guess at a game's value before buying it, so I have to factor in risk of not liking it. This pushes what I'll pay for it down, resulting in most games I like being worth more than what I paid.

Games with known issues/controversy, I'll only pay much less for, though they might turn out to be worth much more. I will pick NFS: MW (2012) when the price is right. The PC version has had some bad performance issues that kept me from shelling out $20 for it at Xmas. Similarly DA2 has had quite a bit of rage around it, but hasn't hit too cheap on it's own (Tony had some good total-DA packs, but already owning DA:OU wiped out the value for me).

Anyhow, that's the difference. I tend to be very precise with my language. :robot:[/QUOTE]

NFS: MW 2012 -> Oh, yeah - I'm waiting for NFS: MW 2012 to drop a bit in price. I was not happy to hear that MW 2012 doesn't really have much of a story, give characters to the drivers, or even the purposely hammy cut-scenes that made MW 2005 so awesome, in the first place.

NFS: Shift -> I actually liked it, but didn't play much of it. And, I even own Shift 2 - ain't began that. I think I had too many other games pop-up that I wound-up playing. Thanks for reminding me that I need to play some more Shift 1, sometime. :D

DA2 -> I thought it was certainly worth the $30 or so I spent on it. I made sure I didn't spend $60 on it, given the amount of controversy surrounding it. Then again - I very rarely pre-order or buy close after its release; and/or very rarely spend full-price or close to it.

Borderlands -> I loved Borderlands: GOTY Edition. Spent around $45 week of release for it at Retail; $20 for first Retail DLC Double Pack; and then bought Steam-version for $7.49 from Amazon just to get the last 2 DLC's. I just still ain't got around to buying BL2, though - in due time, I suppose.
 
[quote name='Motoki']There's little bits about DA:Exodus being the original title of DA2 around the net if you search.

https://twitter.com/BioMarkDarrah/status/264807509787807745
http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/9/index/5377205/1
http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/141/index/6351363/1
http://www.giantbomb.com/dragon-age...that-dragon-age-2-was-originally-name-486824/

I'm not entirely sure if it was due to it being a different enough game from the original or because they thought including a number scares off new players who feel like they have to have played the 1st, probably the latter, but I think it would have worked better personally. *shrug*[/QUOTE]

Thanks for all those links! Very interesting stuff.

This all makes me wonder some more. I wonder if at some-point, DA: Exodus was going originally to be a DAO expansion (and requiring original DAO) or a DA stand-alone expansion (hence calling it DA: Exodus instead of say DA2).

Often, games get numbered when they are using a brand-new engine (like GTA often does); and/or when they are straight-up continuing the last game's story (like ME series does).

Do you think maybe for marketing reasons they took DA: Exodus and renamed it to DA2?
Meaning - they know DAO did so well critically and sales-wise, calling a game DA2 would likely give it blockbuster sales (especially on pre-orders)?
 
[quote name='walkonshadows']Not really a "complete" pack without DLC for DA2 though.[/QUOTE]


Bioware points DLC. Day 1 (pre-order bonus) DLC (Exiled Prince) is lukewarm, a item-shop DLC is free (to encourage dirty console peasants to buy new, Legacy was short and meh, Mark of the Assassin (6 hour side jaunt) is pretty well liked. No one is selling a complete version of DA2 (similar to Mass Effect 2), and I'm not even sure if I'll like it enough to bother with DLC.

[quote name='walkonshadows']Does anyone know where to find an updated (fully patched) version of this game:
http://www.gamersgate.com/DD-DREEFS/dead-reefs

I can't find a patch to fix the end game killing bug (and all the other ones) and the reviews say that GG is only offering v 1.0. I'd like to be able to finish a game no matter how cheap it is.[/QUOTE]


I searched a fair bit and I cannot find evidence of any patch ever being released. One review mentioned something like what you experienced.
 
[quote name='asheskitty']Bioware points DLC. Day 1 (pre-order bonus) DLC (Exiled Prince) is lukewarm, a item-shop DLC is free (to encourage dirty console peasants to buy new, Legacy was short and meh, Mark of the Assassin (6 hour side jaunt) is pretty well liked. No one is selling a complete version of DA2 (similar to Mass Effect 2), and I'm even sure if I'll like it enough to bother with DLC.
[/QUOTE]
I'd still like to get the DLC's for ME2 and DA2 - you know, at more reasonable pricing and less annoying $-to-point conversions (BioWare Points).

I'd love to see DA2 and ME2 on the PC get DLC-Only Packs (for DA2 and ME2 owners) and/or a full-blown Re-Release Ultimate Edition With Everything (Base Game + ALL DLC's/expansions).
Same can go for ME3 once they're done w/ all the ME3 DLC, as well.
 
A while back Bioware gave away all of the DLC content for Dragon Age, Dragon Age 2 and Mass Effect, and Mass Effect 2. I'm not sure why they did, but I was able to get all of the DLC that way
 
[quote name='MysterD']I'd still like to get the DLC's for ME2 and DA2 - you know, at more reasonable pricing and less annoying $-to-point conversions (BioWare Points).

I'd love to see DA2 and ME2 on the PC get DLC-Only Packs (for DA2 and ME2 owners) and/or a full-blown Re-Release Ultimate Edition With Everything (Base Game + ALL DLC's/expansions).
Same can go for ME3 once they're done w/ all the ME3 DLC, as well.[/QUOTE]


I honestly kinda wonder if that'll ever happen. I think the only remaining hope for that is years from now with Total Mass Effect re-release. The release of the next generation consoles may force a re-evaluation of their backcatalog.
 
[quote name='MysterD']
Do you think maybe for marketing reasons they took DA: Exodus and renamed it to DA2?
Meaning - they know DAO did so well critically and sales-wise, calling a game DA2 would likely give it blockbuster sales (especially on pre-orders)?[/QUOTE]

That's probably part of it. The other part is that games that rely on subtitles for distinction can be easily confused and then overlooked. It might appear as though it were a simple expansion to DA instead of a sequel.
 
I believe the Dragon Age O,OA, II DLC free DLC thing mentioned is
http://social.bioware.com/da2/dlc_bundle/
which is still available, but it's items and junk, not the DLC "proper"

I can find no similar thing with ME1 and ME2.

ME1 - Bring Down the Sky is included in the PC release. Pinnacle Station station (free in the trilogy release) isn't worth playing. Those are the only ME1 DLC.

ME2 - Cerberus Network is free (for new copies, take that dirty GameStopping console peasants :lol: ), so is Normandy Crash site, Zaeed - The Price of Revenge, Cerberus Weapon and Armor, Arc Projector, and Firewalker pack. Collector's Ed comes with amor and weapons.
 
[quote name='MysterD']@Syntax
What is this "Comp" you speak of?[/QUOTE]
Not sure if you're serious so I'll play it straight: I mean the 20% discount some people received as a result of the Bethesda/BL2 fiascos.

I hated DA2 as a DA game. Probably would have been okay as a generic action RPG (I don't have any grudge against Divinity II: DKS for example) but DA is one of my favorite games and DA2 felt like a cut-rate action RPG with some DA elements crammed or retconned into it so they could put "Dragon Age" on the label. Those elements kept reminding me of what it was supposed to be which limited me from even enjoying the generic action. But a deal's a deal and the price was the lowest I'd seen for it. Figures that it was an error though :D
 
It's that "comp" can mean many different things--competition, compensation, complimentary--although given the context in which it's used it should've been obvious. I haven't played the games, but they're in my 360 backlog. They've been about $5 on consoles for a long time, and they were free from Origin a few times before.

Also, I think BioWare is still giving away all the DLC for all three DA games here.
 
[quote name='Blade']It's that "comp" can mean many different things--competition, compensation, complimentary--although given the context in which it's used it should've been obvious..[/QUOTE]

Your forgot 'comp' as in computer although I don't think I have used it that way in a good number of years.
 
[quote name='Syntax Error']Not sure if you're serious so I'll play it straight: I mean the 20% discount some people received as a result of the Bethesda/BL2 fiascos.[/quote]
I was serious.
And thanks for the clarification!

Was that 20% discount some of y'all that got from the BethSoft/BL2 fiascos for one purchase? Year? Multiple purchases? Lifetime? Or what?

I hated DA2 as a DA game. Probably would have been okay as a generic action RPG (I don't have any grudge against Divinity II: DKS for example) but DA is one of my favorite games and DA2 felt like a cut-rate action RPG with some DA elements crammed or retconned into it so they could put "Dragon Age" on the label. Those elements kept reminding me of what it was supposed to be which limited me from even enjoying the generic action. But a deal's a deal and the price was the lowest I'd seen for it. Figures that it was an error though :D
I really liked Divinity II: DKS Edition.
I'm sure some were probably upset Divinity II: DKS (direct-style of control in a ARPG) wasn't much like Divine Divinity (isometric-ARPG similar to Diablo), though.
Kind of like how many were upset over changes from DAO to DA2.
Probably not as much, though - since still, Divinity II: DKS Edition turned out great.

At $4 or lower (from pricing error) - geez, DA2 is a steal at that, IMHO.
 
I'm quite tempted by the Dragon Age incomplete pack if someone could assist me with the 20%, however I've never been able to log onto the bioware site to grab the overpowered items pack (http://social.bioware.com/da2/dlc_bundle/) and probably also activate all the dlc. My origin login which is supposed to work simply gives me an invalid login detail error yet I can log in perfectly fine on anything else ea.

Edit: Only the third (or more) time since November I reset my password to get access to the BSN, and it finally worked. I am now looking for someone to assist me with the 20% so I can replay DAO and see how poor DA2 is as a sequel.
 
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[quote name='asheskitty']Bioware points DLC. Day 1 (pre-order bonus) DLC (Exiled Prince) is lukewarm, a item-shop DLC is free (to encourage dirty console peasants to buy new, Legacy was short and meh, Mark of the Assassin (6 hour side jaunt) is pretty well liked. [/QUOTE]

Mark of the Assassin was pretty much the only reason to play DA2. Okay, I'm exaggerating a bit, but Felicia Day is pretty great.
 
[quote name='MrshllJcb']A while back Bioware gave away all of the DLC content for Dragon Age, Dragon Age 2 and Mass Effect, and Mass Effect 2. I'm not sure why they did, but I was able to get all of the DLC that way[/QUOTE]

When did they give away ME DLC?

Edit: I've paid for all of it on the xbox but I can't bring myself to pay for it again on PC.
 
[quote name='aus_nacht']When did they give away ME DLC?

Edit: I've paid for all of it on the xbox but I can't bring myself to pay for it again on PC.[/QUOTE]


It looks like I might have been wrong, and it was just all the extra preorder stuff, and not the extra things. It was a while ago that they actually gave it away, but since I subsequently bought a DA bundle with all the games and DLC it made it seem like everything had been included
 
[quote name='Kaltic']Your forgot 'comp' as in computer although I don't think I have used it that way in a good number of years.[/QUOTE]
Oh, we call it the pornbox here
 
So I got an email this morning alerting me that this weekend is a Space Marine weekend over on GamersGate. Anybody else get the impression that they're sitting on a pile of Space Marine codes (I'm talking "ET for the Atari 2600" sized pile) that they bought and are trying desperately to unload? This is like the 3rd time over the past couple of months that they've put Space Marine on sale.
 
[quote name='asheskitty']ET for 2600.... *twitch* *twitch*[/QUOTE]

I got ET, as well.
Works on my 7800.
{shudders}

BTW - why do you always twitch so much?
 
[quote name='jeff1304']My 20% discount is no longer active ...... anyone else ?[/QUOTE]

I just added Kane & Lynch (today's deal, BTW) to my cart to check and I still had the 20% discount.
 
[quote name='jeff1304']My 20% discount is no longer active ...... anyone else ?[/QUOTE]

There are some things it won't work on. What were you trying to get?
 
[quote name='MysterD']Is that 20% off coupon y'all got from the pricing error fiascos (BL2/Bethesda) a multiple use or lifetime discount?[/QUOTE]

nobody knows, they can change the terms any time. supposed to work for 1 year.
 
[quote name='tfr']nobody knows, they can change the terms any time. supposed to work for 1 year.[/QUOTE]

Interesting!
Thanks for the info!
 
was trying to preorder simcity the discount used to work on preorders but I guess it doesn't now ..... they keep getting lamer and lamer with each month.
 
[quote name='jeff1304']was trying to preorder simcity the discount used to work on preorders but I guess it doesn't now ..... they keep getting lamer and lamer with each month.[/QUOTE]


Look on the bright side, they're helping you save money by not pre-ordering. :ziplip:
 
They have posted in their game tutor/forum thing that the discount will not work for specific titles. Mostly EA titles it seems, which makes sense that they would bitch about it. I tried to get Dead Space 3 at 20% off from its $39.99 but it didn't provide the 20% off, most everything else still works with though.
 
Well, I just bought Kane & Lynch 2, I can't say exactly why. It was only $3. I always looked at it during steam sales (and the old Square Enix steam bundle) but the reviews were always down on it. Some players find it revolting, which adds to my curiosity. Also looking at the emulation of Poisson noise and CCD sensor readout smear added to my curiosity. I guess $3 was just cheap enough to not wonder about it any more, and simply try it... someday. :lol:
 
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