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I liked K&L2. It's surely A LOT better than the original.
Good, but not great.
Mind you - and I did like the original, even despite its issues (G4WL-equipped, not-so-good cover-system, technical issues & performance issues).

And when it comes to PC ports of Square Enix and Eidos' games - In Nixxes, I trust....
 
[quote name='MysterD']@Ashes

I liked K&L2. It's surely A LOT better than the original.
Good, but not great.
Mind you - and I did like the original, even despite its issues.

And when it comes to PC ports of Square Enix and Eidos' games - In Nixxes, I trust....[/QUOTE]
A lot? Really? How so?

I liked the original for the mature, serious story. From the looks of it, 2 seems really silly.
 
[quote name='Idiotekque']A lot? Really? How so?[/quote]
Most importantly - K&L2 ran & looked WAY better than the original.
Nixxes did a good job w/ this PC port, which flat-out required Steam.

I liked the original for the mature, serious story. From the looks of it, 2 seems really silly.
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Both games are pretty ridiculous & over-the-top, actually....
...which is one of the reasons I liked them.
 
[quote name='MysterD']Most importantly - K&L2 ran & looked WAY better than the original.
Nixxes did a good job w/ this PC port, which flat-out required Steam.[/quote]
Yeah, I will appreciate better graphics and cleaner gameplay, but I don't think K&L is really that accomplished of a cover shooter anyways...


[quote name='MysterD']Both games are pretty ridiculous & over-the-top, actually....
...which is one of the reasons I liked them.[/QUOTE]
Well, the events in K&L were a bit wild
(smashing a 5 story tall truck into a prison, and then killing everything that moves, to free your old partners)
, but the underlying story was very deep and serious. Sort of like a modern day western. What's the theme of the story in 2?
 
[quote name='MysterD']@Ashes

I liked K&L2. It's surely A LOT better than the original.
Good, but not great.
Mind you - and I did like the original, even despite its issues (G4WL-equipped, not-so-good cover-system, technical issues & performance issues).

And when it comes to PC ports of Square Enix and Eidos' games - In Nixxes, I trust....[/QUOTE]


Thanks for that. Most people seem to say that the sequel is better, in a more refined way.

Speaking of over the top, I've been playing a smidge of Saints Row 2. :rofl: I'm only a few hours in (and I've gotten hopelessly distracted by the side activities), wow I think it's more over the top than SR3, less refined but more over the top.
 
[quote name='Idiotekque']Yeah, I will appreciate better graphics and cleaner gameplay, but I don't think K&L is really that accomplished of a cover shooter anyways...[/quote]
One of the weak-points of K&L1 was cover was dodgy & wonky. You'd walk up to cover - and it'd sometimes stick to cover when you didn't want it to; or didn't stick you into cover when you wanted to.

Cover mechanics were much better in K&L2 - as you hit a button to jump in and out of cover; i.e. like Gears of War, GTA4, Spec Ops, and numerous other games of this kind.

Well, the events in K&L were a bit wild
(smashing a 5 story tall truck into a prison, and then killing everything that moves, to free your old partners)
, but the underlying story was very deep and serious. Sort of like a modern day western. What's the theme of the story in 2?
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Lynch is in Shanghai w/ his girlfriend - and then input the typical anti-hero criminal fanfare: Kane & Lynch do one last job to try to retire, as again crap just begins to hit the fan...

For $3 - yeah, it's short SP game (took me about 8 hours) - but it's fun. It's certainly worth $3.
{shrug}

It's a damn shame that MP didn't have a lot of maps; nobody played the MP much; and that it was a pain to get a MP game going - MP mode is FUN, if you could get a game going...
 
[quote name='asheskitty']Thanks for that. Most people seem to say that the sequel is better, in a more refined way.

Speaking of over the top, I've been playing a smidge of Saints Row 2. :rofl: I'm only a few hours in (and I've gotten hopelessly distracted by the side activities), wow I think it's more over the top than SR3, less refined but more over the top.[/QUOTE]

Bingo - K&L2 is better in pretty much every way over the original. It's definitely much more refined, i n terms of gameplay mechanics and its actual technical performance.
Of course, like K&L1 - some of the stuff that happens in the K&L2 game is just sp over-the-top, ridiculous, and LOL funny...
...such as the naked shootout level.

Oh, I don't know about SR2 vs. SR3. IMHO - SR3 is probably more outlandish, off-the-wall & crazy-funny than SR2.
 
[quote name='MysterD']Lynch is in Shanghai w/ his girlfriend - and then input the typical anti-hero criminal fanfare: Kane & Lynch do one last job to try to retire, as again crap just begins to hit the fan...[/quote]
Eh, that's the thing. That story sounds pointless/without emotional hook. The first game was very focused on that modern day western/family/redemption theme, and it accomplished it very well, with a very mature, bleak tone
(especially at the end, with the dual achievements "Damned if you do..." and "Damned if you don't." where saving your daughter means leaving your friends to die, and saving your friends STILL gets them all killed, along with your daughter)
. That ending was fucking powerful. If it's just "another job before retirement" with a bunch of wild antics in between, my interest kinda dies.

K&L isn't amazing series as far as gameplay goes, refined or not. It's the story that grabbed me.

[quote name='MysterD']For $3 - yeah, it's short SP game (took me about 8 hours) - but it's fun. It's certainly worth $3.[/QUOTE]
I got it in the Amazon Square Enix bundle for $7.50 ages ago.
 
[quote name='jeff1304']was trying to preorder simcity the discount used to work on preorders but I guess it doesn't now ..... they keep getting lamer and lamer with each month.[/QUOTE]
It still works on pre-orders. Works on Tomb Raider, for instance. I think some publishers just have pretty firm "no discounts" rules on some upcoming games.

Now, GG did say they would find alternate compensation when they couldn't offer 20% off directly such as 20% refunded in blue coins. To the best of my knowledge, they've upheld this promise exactly zero times.
 
[quote name='Idiotekque']Eh, that's the thing. That story sounds pointless/without emotional hook. The first game was very focused on that modern day western/family/redemption theme, and it accomplished it very well, with a very mature, bleak tone
(especially at the end, with the dual achievements "Damned if you do..." and "Damned if you don't." where saving your daughter means leaving your friends to die, and saving your friends STILL gets them all killed, along with your daughter)
. That ending was fucking powerful. If it's just "another job before retirement" with a bunch of wild antics in between, my interest kinda dies.

K&L isn't amazing series as far as gameplay goes, refined or not. It's the story that grabbed me.[/QUOTE]

For what it's worth, K&L2's story does work. Lynch's life gets really rained on over the course of the game and while he doesn't break down as violently as Kane did (YOU SHOULD. HAVE LET. ME TALK TO THEM!) there is some pathos to the story.

I thought K&L1's ending was almost necessary but at the same time a bit of a huge dick move. I think it was told in a way that just wasn't optimal.

K&L2's ending IS just awful though. Minor spoilers as to what it is without telling you what happened:
It just cuts to the credits after the last mission with no ending cutscene. K&L have finished their story, really at the mission before it so it isn't like we lost a climax we needed but it feels like someone decided they needed another level because the game was too short but nobody wrote an ending cutscene after that level. Second tier spoiler just to discuss it directly without spoiling the plot before:
K&L assault an airport to get a plane to get out of town. It makes no sense why this would be their chosen method of escape except that it allows you to shoot things rather than just sneak across the border or steal a boat or something. They run across the airfield, get on a plane, shooting cops all the way, and credits roll. It makes no sense that that plane would ever take off or get them out of town which is probably why we didn't get a cutscene from it.
 
[quote name='RollingSkull']For what it's worth, K&L2's story does work. Lynch's life gets really rained on over the course of the game and while he doesn't break down as violently as Kane did (YOU SHOULD. HAVE LET. ME TALK TO THEM!) there is some pathos to the story.[/QUOTE]
Well, I will have to give it a chance one of these days. Who knows how far down the backlog it is though...
 
[quote name='Idiotekque']Well, I will have to give it a chance one of these days. Who knows how far down the backlog it is though...[/QUOTE]


Above or below the My Little Pony themed Battlechess tribute?
 
[quote name='Syntax Error']It still works on pre-orders. Works on Tomb Raider, for instance. I think some publishers just have pretty firm "no discounts" rules on some upcoming games.

Now, GG did say they would find alternate compensation when they couldn't offer 20% off directly such as 20% refunded in blue coins. To the best of my knowledge, they've upheld this promise exactly zero times.[/QUOTE]

The 20% doesnt work on Bioshock infinite anymore.

But i found out if you remove the 2nd freegame that you supposed to get from the BS:I (eg. Civ V) and then add in another normal purchase (eg: K&L2), the 20% will come back in and discount your entire cart, including BS:I.

In short, you could get BS:I + K&L2 (+free bioshock 1) for 50.95 + 20.98 refund in bluecoins.
 
[quote name='cloudeen']The 20% doesnt work on Bioshock infinite anymore.

But i found out if you remove the 2nd freegame that you supposed to get from the BS:I (eg. Civ V) and then add in another normal purchase (eg: K&L2), the 20% will come back in and discount your entire cart, including BS:I.

In short, you could get BS:I + K&L2 (+free bioshock 1) for 50.95 + 20.98 refund in bluecoins.[/QUOTE]


Or I could wait three months (and maybe get around to playing at least Bioshock 1) and pick it up for $10.

Interesting workaround though :applause:
 
[quote name='asheskitty']Or I could wait three months (and maybe get around to playing at least Bioshock 1) and pick it up for $10.

Interesting workaround though :applause:[/QUOTE]

That depends on if...
2K stays price-cutting/slashing aggressive;
Bioshock: Infinite keeps pumping out DLC to help drop base-game's price (possible, since there is a Season Pass for 3 DLC's);
how well or poorly Bioshock: Infinite's sales go;
if there's any major games coming out that'll get in the way of Bs:I's sales and shine;
and how well or poorly Bs:I is reviewed.
 
[quote name='Daykain']Well looks like Tomb Raider Standard Edition is now cheapest at GG if you use the UK site. Cost is $32.41 (if you have 20% Beth/BL2 discount) with $1.87 back in blue coins bringing price to $30.54.

http://www.gamersgate.co.uk/DD-TOMB/tomb-raider[/QUOTE]

While that's not cheap enough for me...

....the real question is if that TR 2013 UK key is WW or Regional-based?
 
[quote name='The End']So I got an email this morning alerting me that this weekend is a Space Marine weekend over on GamersGate. Anybody else get the impression that they're sitting on a pile of Space Marine codes (I'm talking "ET for the Atari 2600" sized pile) that they bought and are trying desperately to unload? This is like the 3rd time over the past couple of months that they've put Space Marine on sale.[/QUOTE]

Did space marine ever go on sale this weekend? I didn't catch it. I was going to get it if it was dirt cheap, like $4 or less.
 
[quote name='loomis1975']Did space marine ever go on sale this weekend? I didn't catch it. I was going to get it if it was dirt cheap, like $4 or less.[/QUOTE]

lol, no. I guess they just screwed up with the email.

If you're looking to pick up a copy, I have an extra that I'd be willing to sell you for $3. You'd have your choice between a key, or a gift copy from my steam inventory. PM me if you're interested.
 
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Not bad, but considerably worse than the Squeenix Amazon pack for $10 with all that... and another 5 games or so.

I guess not many people got in on that though.
 
The Squeenix Amazon pack was dicey at best and all indications are we're not going to see that again, so as a reference point it's pretty poor.
 
Yeah, I tend to avoid referencing the OMG once in a lifetime sales since they are not likely to come back and even if they did it'd never be a deal everyone could get.

"That's a good price for Dishonored, but it was $2.85 cents at GG a year ago!!!"
 
[quote name='asheskitty']The Squeenix Amazon pack was dicey at best and all indications are we're not going to see that again, so as a reference point it's pretty poor.[/QUOTE]
But... but... it's Tony! Have faith!
 
Hmm, my interest in the LoK games is lukewarm at best. But I bought $50 worth a blue coins back in January, and this is the first thing that I've seen that's looked even slightly interesting to me since then. So I might as well bite. Hard to imagine that it'll get much cheaper than $3.60 outside of some crazy bundle.
 
Part of me says to buy them because they're so cheap, but really, I'll never play these. Not really into the emo vampire/fallen angel thing anyways.
 
[quote name='Idiotekque']Part of me says to buy them because they're so cheap, but really, I'll never play these. Not really into the emo vampire/fallen angel thing anyways.[/QUOTE]


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[quote name='Idiotekque']Part of me says to buy them because they're so cheap, but really, I'll never play these. Not really into the emo vampire/fallen angel thing anyways.[/QUOTE]

As long as it has nothing to do with "teen lit," I'm okay with emo vampires. That's most of what Joss Whedon's Angel series was about.

On a side note, anybody with the 20% want to gift me this for an equivalent amount of Paypal monies? PM if so.
 
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[quote name='Idiotekque']Part of me says to buy them because they're so cheap, but really, I'll never play these. [/QUOTE]

The same boat, we're in it. :lol: It's a very solid deal, but will I ever play them, absolutely not. I got in on the Deus Ex deal, that was solid as well. Since my switch to PC I've noticed I accumulate games at a much cheaper price and at an INSANE rate... In two days my steam collection went from 5 games to somewhere around 50, for under $25... Being a true CAG, I'd probably pick it up with the additional 20% off if I had that - it's hard to pass up at $3.60.
 
[quote name='Izod517']Being a true CAG, I'd probably pick it up with the additional 20% off if I had that - it's hard to pass up at $3.60.[/QUOTE]

Even without the 20% discount it's still a good deal:

Legacy of Kain Collection = $4.50
With elder-geek.com coupon 5% discount (-$0.23) = $4.28
Plus 5% blue coins reward ($0.21) = $4.07

So, you can get almost 10% off yourself.

There are people who have the 20% discount and are willing to help out, for example:

http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showpost.php?p=10534463&postcount=17207

Keep in mind though that they get to keep the 5% blue coins reward, "experience", etc.

Also not sure if they can buy more than one or two gifts of the same game?
 
[quote name='CheapLikeAFox']GG has a limit of two of the same item per account period. Doesn't matter if it is gifted or kept or whatever.[/QUOTE]

mm, i just checked this and you're right

but in the past i have bought 2 copies of dawn of war ii for myself and gifted a third one too.
 
[quote name='Bilbo1']mm, i just checked this and you're right

but in the past i have bought 2 copies of dawn of war ii for myself and gifted a third one too.[/QUOTE]


Did you buy one of those as a two-pack? They seem to handle 2-packs and 4-packs slightly differently. But the main takeaway is that you can't rely on buying more than 2 copies of a game from a single account (important if said account has an account-linked discount).
 
[quote name='asheskitty']Did you buy one of those as a two-pack? They seem to handle 2-packs and 4-packs slightly differently. But the main takeaway is that you can't rely on buying more than 2 copies of a game from a single account (important if said account has an account-linked discount).[/QUOTE]

no, but i think it was even before the ign discount

i bought a copy for myself, then another one as a gift, which i sent immediately and then a second one for myself
 
I've only been with GG since the IGN discount so I can't speak to before then. They might have changed their policy in response to the discount to avoid infinite reselling. In fact, that makes perfect sense to me.
 
Quick Question: For those of you who've had to submit a support ticket, what was the longest turn around time?

I'm looking for a worst case scenario.
 
[quote name='akmgmer']Anyone willing to help me with the 20% discount those Legacy of Kain games? Too good of a price to pass up.[/QUOTE]

I can help you or anyone else out (pm me) who wants the discount on anything. Nothing here for me.
 
[quote name='eulogywerd21']Quick Question: For those of you who've had to submit a support ticket, what was the longest turn around time?

I'm looking for a worst case scenario.[/QUOTE]


Three weeks is worst case. 1.5 to 2 weeks is what you can expect. Sometimes only a few days if there is some sort of miracle.
 
So I guess Blood Omen: Legacy of Kain (the first game) is not available anywhere digitally?

I had that game ages and ages ago for the PC. I'm sure I've long since lost the discs though.

I tried searching for the disc version but the prices were pretty obscene. I guess I can always get it on PSN.
 
[quote name='Motoki']So I guess Blood Omen: Legacy of Kain (the first game) is not available anywhere digitally?

I had that game ages and ages ago for the PC. I'm sure I've long since lost the discs though.

I tried searching for the disc version but the prices were pretty obscene. I guess I can always get it on PSN.[/QUOTE]

In thought I read somewhere that it's abandonware.
 
[quote name='Motoki']So I guess Blood Omen: Legacy of Kain (the first game) is not available anywhere digitally?

I had that game ages and ages ago for the PC. I'm sure I've long since lost the discs though.

I tried searching for the disc version but the prices were pretty obscene. I guess I can always get it on PSN.[/QUOTE]
Wow, I got that on PC retail disc somewhere, too.

I don't recall it going anywhere digitally.
Plus, AFAIK, it's impossible to get to run on modern PC's.

EDIT:
Okay, hmmm....
maybe not...
Don't know - ain't tested any of this.
 
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