Gears Of War - General info and Discussion #1 (MODS LOCK PLS)

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So here is something I just thought of: I'm almost done with Act 4, and I still haven't seen the gatling gun (nor is it in multiplayer). I guess it's safe to assume it doesn't exist? It was in the intro video, which makes me sad if I can't play with it.
 
[quote name='thrustbucket']So here is something I just thought of: I'm almost done with Act 4, and I still haven't seen the gatling gun (nor is it in multiplayer). I guess it's safe to assume it doesn't exist? It was in the intro video, which makes me sad if I can't play with it.[/QUOTE]
it does not exist.
 
[quote name='thrustbucket']Are you sure you bought the right game? Maybe you bought COD3 on accident?[/quote]

ok besides the graphics what defines this game as a killer app??? or as the game that seperates this games from the others??
 
well, you did preface your statement with "to me". so you may not think its all that.

but i, and some others, find it extremely fun, and i have seen nothing like it before. no game has bound it all up in one package like gears. i love it.
 
[quote name='DJSteel']ok besides the graphics what defines this game as a killer app??? or as the game that seperates this games from the others??[/QUOTE]

The gameplay itself. Sure it's a shooter, but it plays like no other I have played. The smooth cover action is pretty unique. Sure people will say GRAW did it, but this is far different, GRAW was more strategy, while GOW is more action.

I also have to say the enemy AI rocks. Every time I play a battle it goes differently.
 
What I have been doing is played ranked match after match on the same map so I can get to know the map/how others play it/and good tactics on it.

So far I got only one down well. hehe

I will of course be on tonight. I would love to have someone co-op some more of Intense with me. I need several more lvls.

Also for those with lesser connections I am a great host and have hosted loads of games with a full room.

Edit:
Last night I played in two matches with some dudes were giving out grenade punch down tattoos like mad. It was the first time I even knew you could do that. So I got to trying it my self and landed my first triple kill from the tactic. I was so ubber excited that the next round I went chasing people down to nade tat them... that ended badly for me for the whole rest of the match till I got a new room with people who just got the game that day. Then I was GOD of GOW.
 
[quote name='thrustbucket']The gameplay itself. Sure it's a shooter, but it plays like no other I have played. The smooth cover action is pretty unique. Sure people will say GRAW did it, but this is far different, GRAW was more strategy, while GOW is more action.

I also have to say the enemy AI rocks. Every time I play a battle it goes differently.[/quote]

it's nothing new..it is the action side of GRAW...the enemy AI is good...but your teammates AI is horrible..
 
Anyone notice the crazy host advantage in this game online. The host can put you down with the assault rifle in a split second.

It's not a big deal since every game has this problem but it just seems more extreme in this game.
 
[quote name='LinkinPrime']On another note:

yes, a patch is in the works to address the connection issues as well as several other bugs that have been reported. not sure on an exact eta, but it won't be long...


http://gearsforums.epicgames.com/showpost.php?p=24685011&postcount=9[/quote]

I really hope it isn't long, like some other games that promised a patch was in the works (saints row, call of duty 2) but took several months from the launch of the game to actually be released.
 
My two cents:

My guess is people who are disappointed by this were expecting a totally new and crazy gaming experience, and I don't think that the average gamer is going to find that in Gears. Ultimately, you run around and shoot people. It's a shooter, that's what you do. At its core, that's a gameplay element that has been innovated on, but it takes a certain type of gamer to really enjoy and appreciate that (the more console/FPS experience you have, the more you appreciate this game, imo). Taking cover, flanking, chainsawing, and a fairly intelligent enemy AI all make for a new and entertaining experience.

This is a very good game. Is it revolutionary? Debatable. Definitely not in the sense that it's clearly one of the best things to ever come out on a console, but it's still a very solid product. I don't think that it pushes the boundaries like a Gran Turismo, Metal Gear, Grand Theft Auto, Resident Evil type game does/did, but that doesn't mean it's bad in any way. It does a lot of things right, and belongs up there with great games. I just don't think it's legendary.
 
[quote name='bortle']Did anyone receive the Corpser achievement the first time you fight one?[/quote]

my brother appears to be having problems with the achievements as well. He beat the game on hardcore, but didn't get the


A Dish Best Served Cold

Defeat General RAAM on Hardcore Difficulty

I have only gotten to the begining of level 3, so I don't know if there is a way to get past RAAM without killing him, but I find that hard to believe.
 
[quote name='thrustbucket']You mark my words, this will be coming. I can think of no better / easier way for them to extend the life of this game than to either let you play as Baird/Cole (When they aren't around, they always mention their action over the radio that makes you want to see what they are doing) or to even allow for 4-player co-op.[/quote]

I'll bet money it doesn't happen.
 
[quote name='DJSteel']it's nothing new..it is the action side of GRAW...the enemy AI is good...but your teammates AI is horrible..[/QUOTE]

Yeah I guess. I didn't like GRAW though. And I wouldn't want the team AI to be any better, or it would be too easy. The team AI is just fine for me.

I guess this game was hyped way too much, and like I've said before, a game could come out that solves world hunger, gives three blow jobs a day, and comes with a free BMW....... there will still be people out there who think it's "over-hyped".

I'll bet money it doesn't happen.
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Just curious..... why?
 
[quote name='Puzznic']Anyone notice the crazy host advantage in this game online. The host can put you down with the assault rifle in a split second.

It's not a big deal since every game has this problem but it just seems more extreme in this game.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I noticed it.
 
[quote name='Puzznic']Anyone notice the crazy host advantage in this game online. The host can put you down with the assault rifle in a split second.

It's not a big deal since every game has this problem but it just seems more extreme in this game.[/quote]
Are you serious? I haven't noticed this at all.

[quote name='AshesofWake']this game is fucking amazing, i haven't had so much fun playing a game since god knows when, i'm totally addicted.
 
[quote name='LinkinPrime']Are you serious? I haven't noticed this at all.



Wait till you try out Viva Pinata, you'll be totally addicted.[/QUOTE]

I just bought Viva, unopened, sitting next to my 360, and I'm very frightened to open it when GOW brings me so much joy atm.
 
I've seriously played it more than GoW and its just because you don't notice the time. Once you play, hours will dissolve away and you'll end up looking at the clock and go "Oh Shit!"
 
[quote name='AshesofWake']this game is fucking amazing, i haven't had so much fun playing a game since god knows when, i'm totally addicted.
 
[quote name='Puzznic']Trust me, it's there. It's really only a factor with the assault rifle and shotgun. It's not a factor of getting better at the game. I beat the same people consistently before and after they host and pretty only ever get killed by them in a head to head fight when they host. It's not even the fact that I killed by them, it's that I get dropped by the COG assault rifle way faster than the gun is actually capable of. It's the same as the host battle rifle in Halo 2 but worse.[/QUOTE]


no it's not. either there's a lag problem with you or them, but it does not exist. we tested this out. it does not exist.
 
[quote name='Brak']You made mention of him possessing a thing called, quote, "just an idiot"...[/QUOTE]

arent you fucking witty
 
I didn't think that the host had any enhanced attributes or anything until last night. In one match whenever the host would go down due to injury (hunched over, pool of blood) he'd spring back up and be fighting again within a second and none of his teammates were around to save him. My entire team noticed this and was pissed to no end. In all the other games I've played I've never encountered anything like that. Either he was super-human or something was up.
 
[quote name='captainfrizo']I didn't think that the host had any enhanced attributes or anything until last night. In one match whenever the host would go down due to injury (hunched over, pool of blood) he'd spring back up and be fighting again within a second and none of his teammates were around to save him. My entire team noticed this and was pissed to no end. In all the other games I've played I've never encountered anything like that. Either he was super-human or something was up.[/QUOTE]


um, that's Execution mode....you press A rapidly to get back up. the only way to kill someone is to blow them up, or chainsaw them, or shoot their head off.
 
[quote name='AshesofWake']no it's not. either there's a lag problem with you or them, but it does not exist. we tested this out. it does not exist.[/QUOTE]

Why are you being so anal about this? If there's a "lag problem with you or them," then that means that it most definitely does exist... You're basically saying "in a lag free world there is no lag, so if you have lag, you must have lag, but there's no lag."

There's NO way that you can prove that he doesn't by testing unless you involve him in the test. Some people have more latent connections then others, it's the internet...
 
[quote name='AshesofWake']um, that's Execution mode....you press A rapidly to get back up. the only way to kill someone is to blow them up, or chainsaw them, or shoot their head off.[/QUOTE]

I want to play this mode. I've played a lot of multi player and I've not seen anything but warzone.
 
[quote name='getmyrunon']Why are you being so anal about this? If there's a "lag problem with you or them," then that means that it most definitely does exist... You're basically saying "in a lag free world there is no lag, so if you have lag, you must have lag, but there's no lag."

There's NO way that you can prove that he doesn't by testing unless you involve him in the test. Some people have more latent connections then others, it's the internet...[/QUOTE]



there's a difference between lag and host advantage. I can understand lag. I don't like it when people talk about the host having an advantage when there isn't. Because if there was, besides me and a bunch of friends testing this out, you would see that the host would be owning in the majority of matches played. But this is not the case at all.


I feel like most people complaining about host advantage either don't want to accept that there isn't any and they just need to play different.

host advantage means that every single time someone hosts they're going to have the ultimate advantage. Lag means everyone might have a problem, host or not.

unless I hear an official word about this, it does not exist in my book.

on a side note: I hate people complaining about me using the chainsaw online..
 
[quote name='AshesofWake']
on a side note: I hate people complaining about me using the chainsaw online..[/quote]

that's like complaining about guns in an FPS...
 
[quote name='AshesofWake']um, that's Execution mode....you press A rapidly to get back up. the only way to kill someone is to blow them up, or chainsaw them, or shoot their head off.[/QUOTE]

We weren't playing Execution mode.
 
[quote name='AshesofWake']on a side note: I hate people complaining about me using the chainsaw online..[/QUOTE]

That's hilarious. For people having trouble with chainsaw users: 9x/10 someone becomes hell bent on chain-sawing you and ignores the fact that getting shot lowers the saw/prevents the animation. They keep rushing and I keep backing up and shooting :D
 
[quote name='thrustbucket']Chainsaws don't bother me, shotguns do.

9/10 I get pwned in a shotgun battle, i'm not sure why.[/QUOTE]

Same here. Even when I'm lucky enough to land a head-shot up close for some damn reason it rarely kills the guy or knocks him down. For some reason I have no problem getting killed with a shotgun though.
 
[quote name='thrustbucket']Chainsaws don't bother me, shotguns do.

9/10 I get pwned in a shotgun battle, i'm not sure why.[/QUOTE]

Are you trying for body shots? Aim for the head/neck, the scatter will usually hit the body anyway, and just a little bit of buckshot to the face makes it a two kill gun (one if you nail em square in the mouth). It's 3 shots to the midsection.

edit: you also do more damage on the outer bullet with a perfect active reload, right? I think that would probably make a huge difference with the shotgun. Is the blinking extra bullet/shell just extra, or more powerful? I thought I remembered reading somewhere it was more powerful.
 
[quote name='getmyrunon']Are you trying for body shots? Aim for the head/neck, the scatter will usually hit the body anyway, and just a little bit of buckshot to the face makes it a two kill gun (one if you nail em square in the mouth). It's 3 shots to the midsection.

edit: you also do more damage on the outer bullet with a perfect active reload, right? I think that would probably make a huge difference with the shotgun. Is the blinking extra bullet/shell just extra, or more powerful? I thought I remembered reading somewhere it was more powerful.[/quote]

noone has ever EVER told me to go for a headshot with a shotty...just body shots...you sure that headshots are more effective with shotties?
 
chain saws piss me off the most.. shot gun is a battle of skill 1 on 1, chain saw is whoever gets lucky. Much more fun using shot gun / lancer bullets... i wish the multiplayer was actualy customizable, i would turn chainsaws off... i never use them unless im mad at people or outright snuck up on them... even if you do sneak up on someone i still think the chainsaw is cheap... its a 1 hit kill you dont have to aim.. you just need to be facing them and be close
 
[quote name='swetooth9']noone has ever EVER told me to go for a headshot with a shotty...just body shots...you sure that headshots are more effective with shotties?[/QUOTE]

the distance that the shot gun will take someones head off would blow them in half if you shot them in the body. so it doesnt really matter... any farther then that and your wayyyyyy better off shooting for the main body mass and scoring as many hits as you can rather then 2 or 3 little shots on the head when all of them or most can be hitting the body
 
response to people saying the host has an advantage witht he lancer. you are aware that a perfect reload gives you a boost in damage right? there is no way to know if the opposing team is hitting perfect reloads unless you ask them.
 
I only use the shotgun in extremely close range, shooting at the head/neck, and I usually get instakills.. I haven't done any hardcore testing though.
 
[quote name='captainfrizo']We weren't playing Execution mode.[/quote]

The host probably put the bleed out time super short on you... but I don't really know bleed out could mean that you die quicker...
 
Saying that there is no host advantage at all is pretty silly. Every game that doesn't have a private server has a host advantage, it is just a matter of how much. That is just the way online play works.

It's not going to make a crappy player good but it will make a good player that much better. They are nowhere near invincible but I would make point of seeing what character the host is using and try not to get in a head to head assault rifle fight with them.

About the chainsaw. I don't think it is cheap at all. It's pretty much the equivalent of meleeing someone in the back in Halo for an instant kill. I usually only use it if I come up on someone that doesn't see me. If they run right up on you with it then just shoot them out of it or dodge backwards.
 
[quote name='thamaster24']The host probably put the bleed out time super short on you... but I don't really know bleed out could mean that you die quicker...[/QUOTE]

I really don't know what happened. I heard some of my team-mates bitching about a dude not staying down hardly at all. I dismissed it at first until I ran into the guy (the host). I was lucky enough to make him drop and he was up and running again before I was able to reload (and I got the timing right and everything). No-one else in that game or any other game I've played has ever recovered like that (hell, I didn't think it was possible). It wasn't an Execution mode match either.

He could have been really, really, really good (although his end game stats weren't incredible or anything), there may be some sort of advantage to the host, or it could have been a freak glitch. Being that I haven't encountered anything like that before or since I'm hoping it was a one-time thing.
 
Please check out the tournament page, guys. To avoid confusion, it is not an official tournament - no prizes, etc., but there will be a ranking here on CAG to keep track of team rankings once we do have the tourney (no date yet). There are about 9 people who are still trying to make a team so hop over there and see if they wanna make a team with you. No skill level required. Just have a headset and have some fun.

http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=114892
 
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