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I hate playing kens online, when they get lucky they take off too much damage, and yes they use fierce uppercut like its a jab or something, and shockingly it connects so damn often. Its really frustrating to play against a good Gief, especially since im pretty handy with gief and i usually lose to another good gief when im playing with fei long or ken, hes just so beastly.
 
[quote name='GuardianE']And, no I didn't see any track listing for the CE. Maybe Capcom will release one postlaunch for us. I just posted a thread asking.[/quote]
Your thread worked. Thank you!:D:D:D
[quote name='RedVirtue from Capcom-Unity']The CD includes the themes of:

Seth
Abel
Akuma
Vega(BlueSwim's Note: Dictator/M. Bison in the U.S.)
C.Viper
Cammy
ChunLi
El Fuerte
Gouken
Guile
Ken
Rose
FeiLong
Ryu
Sagat
Sakura
Zangief

(in that order)
[/QUOTE]
 
[quote name='suko_32']Ken won't connect if you just bait them. It's too easy really.[/quote]
it's really cool when you try to do two c.lks as a blockstring and they do reversal fierce SRK in the middle.
 
I'll be on in 30 mins. Name your console as I just got my CE for PS3 yesterday and its installed and ready to go.

If you don't want shoto fever, I can drag out Dictator, Guile, or Blanka.
 
[quote name='ninja dog']edit: you guys are surprised that there's a noob infestation online...first week of any fighter is like that. -_-

then they get beat down, discouraged, or learn to play.[/QUOTE]no, it's surprising becoz lots of ppl have been playing and getting good at HDR.

like I dont play Blanka, but I kno enough about street fighter to get a 25 win streak online... the skills and experience should transfer over albeit at a slightly scrubby yet somewhat competent level.

the only reason I broke my streak was becoz I was trying to get the medal where you win by judgement,

but turtling on a 99 second timer... not a good idea.

So I made my own custom match and set it to 30 seconds, got my achievement!!!
 
[quote name='BlueSwim']Your thread worked. Thank you!:D:D:D[/quote]

That mods not an actual rep of Capcom, I believe. It's good that we have an answer at all, I suppose, so hopefully those tracks are right.

I adore the rival remixes. I think they're fantastic. The other music, I like too, but not nearly as much. I'm not sure what some people were expecting with the music.
 
[quote name='JEKKI']no, it's surprising becoz lots of ppl have been playing and getting good at HDR.

like I dont play Blanka, but I kno enough about street fighter to get a 25 win streak online... the skills and experience should transfer over albeit at a slightly scrubby yet somewhat competent level.

the only reason I broke my streak was becoz I was trying to get the medal where you win by judgement,

but turtling on a 99 second timer... not a good idea.

So I made my own custom match and set it to 30 seconds, got my achievement!!![/QUOTE]

I won by judgement online... I was Ken and the dude was Ryu. Anyways all he fucking did was the fireball. So I realize that so we fireballed till time ran out. But towards the end, I would super fireball (two punch buttons) and the second would always hit him so I barely beat him.
 
[quote name='Pootie Thang']I won by judgement online... I was Ken and the dude was Ryu. Anyways all he fucking did was the fireball. So I realize that so we fireballed till time ran out. But towards the end, I would super fireball (two punch buttons) and the second would always hit him so I barely beat him.[/quote]

lmao, that sounds like the most boring fight ever. You should've focus absorbed some of the fireballs if he didn't use any EX fireballs. Then just jumped over and busted his ass with a Shinryuken.
 
Huh, I tried Viper after my first arcade run-through as Ryu and I beat Seth in like two tries.

I had a harder time with Abel. -_-
 
What's the best wakeup counter to Abel's Tornado Throw? It seems like if it's timed well, it snuffs practically everything except a guessed Shoryuken.
 
[quote name='GuardianE']What's the best wakeup counter to Abel's Tornado Throw? It seems like if it's timed well, it snuffs practically everything except a guessed Shoryuken.[/quote]

Not be in range...

If he whiffs it you can hurt him good.
 
[quote name='MarkMan']Not be in range...

If he whiffs it you can hurt him good.[/quote]

I mean if he does it while you're waking and times it perfectly. He can put himself within range. I haven't fully tested it out, I mean desperately dashing backwards might be enough to get out of range fast enough. I only played as Abel once and it seemed really effective, but it's pure speculation without playing further.
 
[quote name='GuardianE']I mean if he does it while you're waking and times it perfectly. He can put himself within range. I haven't fully tested it out, I mean desperately dashing backwards might be enough to get out of range fast enough. I only played as Abel once and it seemed really effective, but it's pure speculation without playing further.[/quote]

Can you EX through command grabs?
 
[quote name='Ronin317']Wait...what if I'm both?:whistle2:#[/quote]
they're not mutually exclusive

cag people tend to suck



^_-
 
[quote name='gunm']Can you EX through command grabs?[/quote]

I'm not entirely sure. I know you can perform a general move counter upon wakeup, which is sure to have invincibility frames, but that ultimately comes down to a guessing game... and can be very punished if guessed incorrectly (in the case of a blocked Shoryuken). I'm guessing something like an EX Spinning Bird Kick would be safe to perform and have priority. I'm just wondering if there's a universal tactic against it. Maybe it's something stupid, like mashing C.lp.
 
Woo hoo! Internet is back up! Time to get my ass kicked online :D

Went to Fry's just for the heck of it and ended up having a good convo with two guys there, apparently SFIV has reunited all gamers for one common goal, ass beatings :cool:

What's this 1.01 patch?

Edit: Tried doing network battle on PSN but I keep getting no hits, I can't even create a session ???:/
 
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[quote name='kainzero']they're not mutually exclusive

cag people tend to suck



^_-[/quote]

And I pretty much use Ken only online, because I'm not strong enough with any other character, except akuma or rose, who i haven't unlocked yet.
:bomb: I hate myself for you guys. :D
 
[quote name='Pootie Thang']I won by judgement online... I was Ken and the dude was Ryu. Anyways all he fucking did was the fireball. So I realize that so we fireballed till time ran out. But towards the end, I would super fireball (two punch buttons) and the second would always hit him so I barely beat him.[/QUOTE]yeay, but problem is I cant do that with Blanka.

if I wanna counter a fireball, I either go offensive or block, and blocking didnt do any good coz it jus made my opponent rush me.

but going offensive woulda killed my opponent lol... so I had no choice but to keep blocking and eventually lose
 
I'm planning to rotate Sagat and Viper for now. El Fuerte has been kind of difficult for me to wrap my head around so far--same with Abel. I could really do whatevers though. Blanka, Guile, Chun Li, Claw, Dictator...whoever. I'm really going to concentrate on playing through arcade mode to try and unlock everything first. Hopefully that gives me more time to practice.
 
[quote name='heavyd853']Can't you jump through a wakeup abel command throw?

I don't remember what I did but I had no problem with that.[/quote]

lol, maybe. I don't think anyone tried that while I was playing. :D

[quote name='JEKKI']yeay, but problem is I cant do that with Blanka.

if I wanna counter a fireball, I either go offensive or block, and blocking didnt do any good coz it jus made my opponent rush me.

but going offensive woulda killed my opponent lol... so I had no choice but to keep blocking and eventually lose[/quote]

I probably sound like a broken record, but focus cancel? I mean, it's a risk to do it, but you'll be gaining your Revenge Gauge at the same time with (hopefully) no permanent damage to your health bar. Whenever I see fireballs on screen, I automatically look at them as Revenge Meter powerups. Focus, backdash, focus, backdash.
 
true, but if they are relentless with the fireballs then you will never have time to recharge your life.

and if u sit there blocking trying to recharge, you will take chip damage from the fireballs.

focusing for meter is VERY risky, maybe not at this point where nobody is real good yet but down the line I dont think it would be a wise decision.
 
I'm finally getting SFIV today. Yeah, about time. I'll be bringing Gief to the party. I can't wait to go crush some Kens online. :)

SPD after FP SRK whiff, anyone?
 
[quote name='JEKKI']true, but if they are relentless with the fireballs then you will never have time to recharge your life.

and if u sit there blocking trying to recharge, you will take chip damage from the fireballs.

focusing for meter is VERY risky, maybe not at this point where nobody is real good yet but down the line I dont think it would be a wise decision.[/quote]

Yeah, with advanced level play I don't see it being entirely viable... or at least doing it constantly anyway. In the fireball trap you gave, you'll get chipped away, but if they don't attack more aggressively you'll never suffer any substantial damage... until he realizes to throw out an EX fireball.

Although at the same time I don't see someone spamming fireballs as particularly advanced either. If someone's spamming fireballs and doing nothing else, they probably don't know much more than that.
 
[quote name='gunm']Doesn't Blanka have some crouching/sliding counters against fireball spam?[/quote]

Oh right. Does he still have the downforward Fierce?
 
[quote name='hankmecrankme']I'm finally getting SFIV today. Yeah, about time. I'll be bringing Gief to the party. I can't wait to go crush some Kens online. :)

SPD after FP SRK whiff, anyone?[/quote]

Is chac still crying about people playing new games?

My mic was broken! I'll be getting a new one soon.
 
[quote name='GuardianE']Oh right. Does he still have the downforward Fierce?[/quote]

Yeah, I didn't get to play as him last night, but I thought DF+F and D+LP+MP+HP both slide/dodge under fireballs.
 
I got the PS3 version today. I'm going to file my taxes next week. If the rebate is good enough I'll try to pick up a Fight Pad and the 360 version later on down the line.
 
[quote name='heavyd853']Is chac still crying about people playing new games?

My mic was broken! I'll be getting a new one soon.[/QUOTE]

:rofl: Yeah, he's always bitching about new games, because he's all into that retro gaming nonsense. Bernie Stolar was right, Saturn is dead, let it go man, let it go. . .

Just kidding, I love my Saturn. :grouphug:

I also broke my mic by running the cable over with my chair. I have others, but they either suck worse than the 360 mic, or I have to yell into them. I need to either fix them or get a new one. I want a wireless mic so badly.
 
[quote name='heavyd853']Is chac still crying about people playing new games?

My mic was broken! I'll be getting a new one soon.[/quote]

Insert Chacrana quote about shit being good only if its A. Japanese. B. Obsceure. C. Old.
 
Just got done playing on the 360. Playing open arcade mode is definitely the way to go to get challengers easily. My BP is a little under 600, but I feel like I'm finally starting to get used to the timing a bit. And yeah, online is DEFINITELY Shoto City.

Another thing I would like to mention is the subtlety of the Sanwa JLF is really starting to grow on me. During my initial breaking in of my TE stick, at 1st I thought it was kinda janky, In actuality, I'm just used to throwing around Happ competitions and P360's for my whole damn life. Once I calmed down a little bit, and focused more on finesse and form over power and slapping, things started to flow beautifully. I finally get what the fuss about JPN joysticks are all about.

You guys and this thread have been very helpful to me thus far, I appreciate it.
 
[quote name='Furashu']yes i beat seth with abel... dont understand how to use abel.. yet[/quote]

What did you do? mid range into wheel kicks? I want to unlock Fei, but I really don't understand how to use Abel yet either.
 
[quote name='gunm']What did you do? mid range into wheel kicks? I want to unlock Fei, but I really don't understand how to use Abel yet either.[/quote]

i gotta learn my SF jargon.. lol

i did easy, 30 seconds 1 round

all i did was block his yoga arms then advance block his sonic boom then if he walked i swept him.

if he sucked me in with his stomach id block then if he was kicking low id mid kick, if he was kicking mid id sweep his legs,

then id back up let him do the diagnol jump from the right screen to the left and id high kick so hed fly back then id focus attack him and itd usually hit, after u focus attack sweep him when he falls..

took about 10-15 tries though
 
Hey guys, how do you negate Abel's grab when your character is waking up? An Abel player will knock me down, wait for me to get up, then immediately grab me again. Do I need to get up grabbing with LP+LK to get a tech to negate it?
 
All I did was make enough room to have him throw out some sonic booms,
(Someone translate this into fighter language) jump in with fierce punches and crouching h.kicks. Everytime I tried to get fancy he'd somehow interrupt with his damn teleporting Zangief throw :mad:
 
[quote name='Knoxximus']Hey guys, how do you negate Abel's grab when your character is waking up? An Abel player will knock me down, wait for me to get up, then immediately grab me again. Do I need to get up grabbing with LP+LK to get a tech to negate it?[/quote]
If he's using the Tornado throw you can't do that since it's a command throw, but I think you can just crouch to avoid it?
 
[quote name='FloodsAreUponUS']Insert Chacrana quote about shit being good only if its A. Japanese. B. Obsceure. C. Old.[/QUOTE]

But guys, I got SFIV! Not gonna play it till tomorrow, but it's sitting here.

*Floody* is just mad that he played through Fable II like a bitch. Also, Prince of Persia, Banjo Kazooie, and Sonic Unleashed. What a vocal minority.

Edit: You a bitch.
 
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