[quote name='gigan54']anybody with a decent zangief wanna play some sf4?
so, cuz of my loss yesterday i figure i'd try to find a strategy to beat the lariat. i think jump + hp beats out the lariat like 90% of the time. then again, i just did that through training mode. i want to see how that'll work in a real match[/QUOTE]
You play Honda, right? If you had SFIV on 360, I'd play you.
Friend of mine plays a really strong Honda against my Gief. I'm at work, but let me try to remember a few points about the matchup:
-Jump straight up fierce (I think, the one where Honda sticks his arms out) is buff as hell against Gief. It will beat the lariat many more times than it will lose, and at worst, it will trade. The only thing that I've found that will snuff it cleanly is st. rh, and that's only at a certain sweet distance. Otherwise, the st. rh will lose or trade.
-Don't get predictable with your st. rh, or Gief is gonna grab that leg and you'll eat a SPD.
-Don't go crazy with the butt bombs either. Very punishable on block, and the lariat can beat it clean in certain situations.
-Lariat neutralizes Honda's ultra. You'll just be headbutting into Gief's spinning body, and will then be hit after the animation finishes.
-Kick lariat beats headbutts clean. Punch ones may as well, but I think you have to wait until Honda is in deep.
For Honda to win this match, you need to capitalize every time you hit the jump up fierce. Follow up with the EX hands combo, then mix it up with a st. rh or ochio.