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[quote name='kainzero']i'm not casual
i'm strictly business[/QUOTE]
Oh that's just what we call pillow talk, baby, that's all.
When can we expect to hear more from SDT about compents in the T6 stick? I know you said it doesn't have sanwa in it but what about quick discounects? Will you be able to say anything before the release?
i'm strictly business[/QUOTE]
Oh that's just what we call pillow talk, baby, that's all.
When can we expect to hear more from SDT about compents in the T6 stick? I know you said it doesn't have sanwa in it but what about quick discounects? Will you be able to say anything before the release?
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[quote name='hankmecrankme']I'm casual i.e. I've played a ton of fighters, but I'm laid back, I don't go out looking for competition too hard, etc. I'm more of a huge fan of them than hardcore into them. I'm not going to be analyzing frame data anytime soon, for example, though I might gleam strategies and combos off of videos. I really need to move to an area with local competition.[/QUOTE]Same here. I try to play every fighter that comes down the line, but I don't play them to be the best around(can't really with my lack of Live Gold). I play them to enjoy them.
When you start playing fighting games based on memorized frame data numbers is when you've gone too "hardcore" with the genre, IMO. It's one thing to know from experience that the start-up for move x is kinda slow, but when you know the numerical data for said move off the top of your head is another thing entirely. I know there's a community for players like that, but I think they take it too seriously. They play just to prove their "elite" skills, nothing more.
I just don't think enough people play fighting games for the fun of it anymore. Fighting is about quick reaction and instinct, not numbers.
Intermediate players 4 life, yo.
When you start playing fighting games based on memorized frame data numbers is when you've gone too "hardcore" with the genre, IMO. It's one thing to know from experience that the start-up for move x is kinda slow, but when you know the numerical data for said move off the top of your head is another thing entirely. I know there's a community for players like that, but I think they take it too seriously. They play just to prove their "elite" skills, nothing more.
I just don't think enough people play fighting games for the fun of it anymore. Fighting is about quick reaction and instinct, not numbers.
Intermediate players 4 life, yo.
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TvC is pretty casual with the nunchuck/wiimote combo of pressing a directional to do moves.
That said, i have my modded T5 stick + GC adapter ready to whoop you fools onine with the inevitable 2fps online the wii is known for hits with the US release. Watch out!
That said, i have my modded T5 stick + GC adapter ready to whoop you fools onine with the inevitable 2fps online the wii is known for hits with the US release. Watch out!
[quote name='BlueSwim']Same here. I try to play every fighter that comes down the line, but I don't play them to be the best around(can't really with my lack of Live Gold). I play them to enjoy them.
When you start playing fighting games based on memorized frame data numbers is when you've gone too "hardcore" with the genre, IMO. It's one thing to know from experience that the start-up for move x is kinda slow, but when you know the numerical data for said move off the top of your head is another thing entirely. I know there's a community for players like that, but I think they take it too seriously. They play just to prove their "elite" skills, nothing more.
I just don't think enough people play fighting games for the fun of it anymore. Fighting is about quick reaction and instinct, not numbers.
Intermediate players 4 life, yo.[/QUOTE]
I really doubt anyone knows the frame rates for each toon out there, or could even list off the data for their player of choice. People use frame rates to learn how to make better combos work, seeing what can link better with x move, or what would be a better counter for y.
I see this as no different from people who play sports games and know that picking a play over another will work better for what they want to do. Or a fps knowing the specs of a weapon will work out better in a given situation than some other weapon. Same could be said for rpgs or rts.Fighters have frame data, the system is based off of this data, I think a lot of you have a strong misconception of those who enjoy working out the ins and outs of fighting games.
Some enjoy learning the specs of what they like to play, I don't think it is because they want to prove how " elite " they are, they just want to know why something works and why it wouldn't.
When you start playing fighting games based on memorized frame data numbers is when you've gone too "hardcore" with the genre, IMO. It's one thing to know from experience that the start-up for move x is kinda slow, but when you know the numerical data for said move off the top of your head is another thing entirely. I know there's a community for players like that, but I think they take it too seriously. They play just to prove their "elite" skills, nothing more.
I just don't think enough people play fighting games for the fun of it anymore. Fighting is about quick reaction and instinct, not numbers.
Intermediate players 4 life, yo.
[/QUOTE]I really doubt anyone knows the frame rates for each toon out there, or could even list off the data for their player of choice. People use frame rates to learn how to make better combos work, seeing what can link better with x move, or what would be a better counter for y.
I see this as no different from people who play sports games and know that picking a play over another will work better for what they want to do. Or a fps knowing the specs of a weapon will work out better in a given situation than some other weapon. Same could be said for rpgs or rts.Fighters have frame data, the system is based off of this data, I think a lot of you have a strong misconception of those who enjoy working out the ins and outs of fighting games.
Some enjoy learning the specs of what they like to play, I don't think it is because they want to prove how " elite " they are, they just want to know why something works and why it wouldn't.
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I like Mahvel because I can drop acid and mash buttons and look at the pretty colors. 
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I'm pretty casual. I buy pretty much every fighting game on the 360 but in the end I don't play it competitively like some of you do.
Tho buying a TE stick is definitely not casual when I tell my friends about it.
Tho buying a TE stick is definitely not casual when I tell my friends about it.
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[quote name='Monsta Mack']I'm pretty casual. I buy pretty much every fighting game on the 360 but in the end I don't play it competitively like some of you do.
Tho buying a TE stick is definitely not casual when I tell my friends about it.[/QUOTE]
same here
though only reason i got a TE stick was due to it being incredibly cheap
Tho buying a TE stick is definitely not casual when I tell my friends about it.[/QUOTE]
same here
though only reason i got a TE stick was due to it being incredibly cheap
[quote name='Reichan']http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=236388
Check the pics out![/QUOTE]
Damnable hooligan traps.
Check the pics out![/QUOTE]
Damnable hooligan traps.
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[quote name='distgfx']You sound just like the people on GAF and SRK.
This is pretty much my opinion on the situation.[/QUOTE]
Very true.. lack of arcade release isn't a big deal. Japan is going to stop playing? OH NOZ WHAT WILL WE DO NOW?!!? I doubt Japan will stop playing, they have PS3's don't they?
Also, GGs to shinryuu. Your Abel is pretty solid. I was going nuts when our last match ended, it was sooo close. Sorry I had to leave after only a few matches.
I noticed you guys were talking about character changes a few pages back, I want buffs for these guys: DEFINITELY VEGA, Blanka, Honda, Chun, Sakura, Dan, Viper, Abel, and Gen.
This is pretty much my opinion on the situation.[/QUOTE]
Very true.. lack of arcade release isn't a big deal. Japan is going to stop playing? OH NOZ WHAT WILL WE DO NOW?!!? I doubt Japan will stop playing, they have PS3's don't they?
Also, GGs to shinryuu. Your Abel is pretty solid. I was going nuts when our last match ended, it was sooo close. Sorry I had to leave after only a few matches.
I noticed you guys were talking about character changes a few pages back, I want buffs for these guys: DEFINITELY VEGA, Blanka, Honda, Chun, Sakura, Dan, Viper, Abel, and Gen.
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I think they do.. some shit that Blanka does makes no sense to me whatsoever. For example, I love cross-up Blanka ball.. but it's only good at the end of the match, cuz even when it hits it's unsafe! Successful cross-up Blanka ball = SPD... does that make sense to anyone? WTF?
Oh yeah.. and to the GAF/SRK minded people who think lack of arcade & console set-ups are too much of a hassle = death of the scene, you need to check out UMBC game night some time. The best players in the Mid-Atlantic come down every Wednesday and show their l33t console set-up skills.
Oh yeah.. and to the GAF/SRK minded people who think lack of arcade & console set-ups are too much of a hassle = death of the scene, you need to check out UMBC game night some time. The best players in the Mid-Atlantic come down every Wednesday and show their l33t console set-up skills.
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[quote name='Mr. Beef']Blanka and Dan don't need buffs, silly.[/QUOTE]
Blanka needs a buff. not claw. claw aint green.
Blanka needs a buff. not claw. claw aint green.
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[quote name='Mr. Beef']
I've mentioned that not getting an arcade release isn't a big deal, and I stand by that. But the thing that confuses me is that if people have the time to go to the arcade, how do they not have time to play each other on a console instead? Seems a bit odd to me.[/QUOTE]
We are hommies, so I am just going to say this:
When I was playing CVS2 at MGL/SVGL with friends or SFIV at SJSU, both places were there. I didn't need to call up or make plans ahead of time. I knew what time they opened and closed Sun-Sat and I just go whenever I wanted. When I was rolling out to SJSU for SFIV by myself, it was late on random weekdays and I got a handful of games in before having to head out. Just showed up basically.
Having the time to do that is completely different than having the time to setup a big get together. The last get together I went to was at some dudes house I didn't know, but someone in my crew knew. There were easily 40+ people there more than half there for SFIV. Was that something everyone just dropped by for? Nope. The guy got the house to himself and let people know about it a couple weeks ahead of time.
It's just inconvient to just randomly drop by someones house and play, friend or not. Lots of us here have jobs (some of us two jobs), significant others and all sorts of stuff going on. With Arcades I can just drop by when I have the time and it's open to me the same way a Supermarket or a Best Buy is. Though I would love to play for free on Consoles all day, with sticks I know work correctly, most of the time it's more of planned thing and ends up being harder to play because everyone has lives and plans (which change).
I've mentioned that not getting an arcade release isn't a big deal, and I stand by that. But the thing that confuses me is that if people have the time to go to the arcade, how do they not have time to play each other on a console instead? Seems a bit odd to me.[/QUOTE]
We are hommies, so I am just going to say this:
When I was playing CVS2 at MGL/SVGL with friends or SFIV at SJSU, both places were there. I didn't need to call up or make plans ahead of time. I knew what time they opened and closed Sun-Sat and I just go whenever I wanted. When I was rolling out to SJSU for SFIV by myself, it was late on random weekdays and I got a handful of games in before having to head out. Just showed up basically.
Having the time to do that is completely different than having the time to setup a big get together. The last get together I went to was at some dudes house I didn't know, but someone in my crew knew. There were easily 40+ people there more than half there for SFIV. Was that something everyone just dropped by for? Nope. The guy got the house to himself and let people know about it a couple weeks ahead of time.
It's just inconvient to just randomly drop by someones house and play, friend or not. Lots of us here have jobs (some of us two jobs), significant others and all sorts of stuff going on. With Arcades I can just drop by when I have the time and it's open to me the same way a Supermarket or a Best Buy is. Though I would love to play for free on Consoles all day, with sticks I know work correctly, most of the time it's more of planned thing and ends up being harder to play because everyone has lives and plans (which change).
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[quote name='Mr. Beef']Like most vegetarians, Blanka is ugly and unimpressive. Claw = beauty, so he automatically deserves a buff more than Blanka.[/QUOTE]
[quote name='BustaUppa']Handsome fighters never lose battles.[/QUOTE]
I smell some gay fantasies amongst you guys.
[quote name='BustaUppa']Handsome fighters never lose battles.[/QUOTE]
I smell some gay fantasies amongst you guys.
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GG's to Beef. Thanks for the stompin'
[quote name='RelentlessRolento']I smell some gay fantasies amongst you guys.[/QUOTE]
Tekken is nothing but gay/incest fantasies.
[quote name='asianxcore']snip[/quote]I guess I can see what you're trying to say. As easy as it is to plan get-togethers, it's that much easier to show up at an arcade. Being a console-brat and not an arcade-rat makes me think differently.
GGs also. Are you practicing with Ryu? I can never tell if anyone is anymore since Ryu is my worst matchup, no matter what my character is. You still managed to DEFEAT SHENG LONG, though.
Tekken is nothing but gay/incest fantasies.
[quote name='asianxcore']snip[/quote]I guess I can see what you're trying to say. As easy as it is to plan get-togethers, it's that much easier to show up at an arcade. Being a console-brat and not an arcade-rat makes me think differently.
GGs also. Are you practicing with Ryu? I can never tell if anyone is anymore since Ryu is my worst matchup, no matter what my character is. You still managed to DEFEAT SHENG LONG, though.
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[quote name='Mr. Beef']
GGs also. Are you practicing with Ryu? I can never tell if anyone is anymore since Ryu is my worst matchup, no matter what my character is. You still managed to DEFEAT SHENG LONG, though.[/QUOTE]
I still main Abel/Seth, but have added Ryu to the mix. Threw him into my list of mains around early Summer or something like that, I can't remember.
Minus some really ridiculous shit, he's just fun to play.
Are YOU practicing Gouken?
GGs also. Are you practicing with Ryu? I can never tell if anyone is anymore since Ryu is my worst matchup, no matter what my character is. You still managed to DEFEAT SHENG LONG, though.[/QUOTE]
I still main Abel/Seth, but have added Ryu to the mix. Threw him into my list of mains around early Summer or something like that, I can't remember.
Minus some really ridiculous shit, he's just fun to play.
Are YOU practicing Gouken?
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[quote name='gunm']Hasn't Blanka's moves historically been unsafe?[/QUOTE]
Yeah, remember when you could just jab him out of his rolling attacks all day? That was fun. Electricity? Sweep. And he's still a bitch to deal with.
Yeah, remember when you could just jab him out of his rolling attacks all day? That was fun. Electricity? Sweep. And he's still a bitch to deal with.
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[quote name='Mr. Beef']Tekken is nothing but gay/incest fantasies.
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I never denied that. There's def a yaoi undertone in Tekken.
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I never denied that. There's def a yaoi undertone in Tekken.
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How the 
did you pull that off bro?
did you pull that off bro?
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[quote name='MarkMan']Paul has the best ending (as usual)....
Also, the game has in game flyers (on walls/street poles) with Church's Chicken!
Also, the game has in game flyers (on walls/street poles) with Church's Chicken!
[quote name='asianxcore']I still main Abel/Seth, but have added Ryu to the mix. Threw him into my list of mains around early Summer or something like that, I can't remember.
Minus some really ridiculous shit, he's just fun to play.
Are YOU practicing Gouken?[/QUOTE]I sure am. I started practicing with him last week, and I haven't stopped. So much fun, but more work than I'm used to.
[quote name='hankmecrankme']Yeah, remember when you could just jab him out of his rolling attacks all day? That was fun. Electricity? Sweep. And he's still a bitch to deal with.[/QUOTE]
Blanka doesn't need anything in SSFIV. No nerfs, no buffs. Claw, on the other hand, desperately needs some invincibility frames on his backflip kick, or something. You can sit next to him after he's knocked down and start jabbing, and all he can do is block. Anything else gets hit by the jabs.
Minus some really ridiculous shit, he's just fun to play.
Are YOU practicing Gouken?[/QUOTE]I sure am. I started practicing with him last week, and I haven't stopped. So much fun, but more work than I'm used to.
[quote name='hankmecrankme']Yeah, remember when you could just jab him out of his rolling attacks all day? That was fun. Electricity? Sweep. And he's still a bitch to deal with.[/QUOTE]
Blanka doesn't need anything in SSFIV. No nerfs, no buffs. Claw, on the other hand, desperately needs some invincibility frames on his backflip kick, or something. You can sit next to him after he's knocked down and start jabbing, and all he can do is block. Anything else gets hit by the jabs.
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blanka def needs something.
claw needs a dick. one of you guys can provide.
claw needs a dick. one of you guys can provide.
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[quote name='Mr. Beef']Blanka doesn't need anything in SSFIV. No nerfs, no buffs. Claw, on the other hand, desperately needs some invincibility frames on his backflip kick, or something. You can sit next to him after he's knocked down and start jabbing, and all he can do is block. Anything else gets hit by the jabs.[/QUOTE]
Agreed completely. Blanka can eat a dick though.
Agreed completely. Blanka can eat a dick though.
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[quote name='Mr. Beef']I sure am. I started practicing with him last week, and I haven't stopped. So much fun, but more work than I'm used to.
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I'm sure I can test it or look it up but I'm lazy.
For one of Gouken's corner shenanigans does:
EX Palm DP--->FP Fireball---->Ultra
do more damage than
EX Palm DP--->Ultra
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I'm sure I can test it or look it up but I'm lazy.
For one of Gouken's corner shenanigans does:
EX Palm DP--->FP Fireball---->Ultra
do more damage than
EX Palm DP--->Ultra
I'm did pretty well for my shopping in Japan. I got almost all the fighters I wanted except Melty Blood 2 which I just couldn't find cheap. I'll try to get a pic up so I can share with you guys. A lot of it's just 100 yen stuff I got solely to sell off.
Even tough I had fun I can't wait to get back to the states and try out all my goodies and wait for Tekken 6.
Even tough I had fun I can't wait to get back to the states and try out all my goodies and wait for Tekken 6.
[quote name='Mr. Beef']Blanka doesn't need anything in SSFIV. No nerfs, no buffs. Claw, on the other hand, desperately needs some invincibility frames on his backflip kick, or something. You can sit next to him after he's knocked down and start jabbing, and all he can do is block. Anything else gets hit by the jabs.[/QUOTE]
[quote name='RelentlessRolento']blanka def needs something.
claw needs a dick. one of you guys can provide.[/QUOTE]What the hell could Blanka need? Please enlighten me, because at the moment, I can't think of a single thing that he needs to be better than he is now.
[quote name='asianxcore']I'm sure I can test it or look it up but I'm lazy.
For one of Gouken's corner shenanigans does:
EX Palm DP--->FP Fireball---->Ultra
do more damage than
EX Palm DP--->Ultra[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I did that to someone online the other day. I felt pretty awesome, and I was surprised I didn't get a ragequit. I only really try it when I get them near the corner, and even then, sometimes I forget.
claw needs a dick. one of you guys can provide.[/QUOTE]What the hell could Blanka need? Please enlighten me, because at the moment, I can't think of a single thing that he needs to be better than he is now.
[quote name='asianxcore']I'm sure I can test it or look it up but I'm lazy.
For one of Gouken's corner shenanigans does:
EX Palm DP--->FP Fireball---->Ultra
do more damage than
EX Palm DP--->Ultra[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I did that to someone online the other day. I felt pretty awesome, and I was surprised I didn't get a ragequit. I only really try it when I get them near the corner, and even then, sometimes I forget.
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[quote name='Mr. Beef']What the hell could Blanka need? Please enlighten me, because at the moment, I can't think of a single thing that he needs to be better than he is now.
Yeah, I did that to someone online the other day. I felt pretty awesome, and I was surprised I didn't get a ragequit. I only really try it when I get them near the corner, and even then, sometimes I forget.[/QUOTE]
Cross-up Blanka ball is unsafe... EVEN WHEN IT HITS!!!
Yeah, I did that to someone online the other day. I felt pretty awesome, and I was surprised I didn't get a ragequit. I only really try it when I get them near the corner, and even then, sometimes I forget.[/QUOTE]
Cross-up Blanka ball is unsafe... EVEN WHEN IT HITS!!!
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[quote name='Mr. Beef']What the hell could Blanka need? Please enlighten me, because at the moment, I can't think of a single thing that he needs to be better than he is now.
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Sorry I wasnt clear, but I'm just fukcing with you guys... plus I really don't like Claw... alot.
Also, didnt realize T6 PSP was releasing in november? I thought it was all oct 27? in a way that's good but I wanted something to at least play on the metro rail/bus. ANy exact day in Nov since I see no date yet?
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Sorry I wasnt clear, but I'm just fukcing with you guys... plus I really don't like Claw... alot.
Also, didnt realize T6 PSP was releasing in november? I thought it was all oct 27? in a way that's good but I wanted something to at least play on the metro rail/bus. ANy exact day in Nov since I see no date yet?
[quote name='PhrostByte']Cross-up Blanka ball is unsafe... EVEN WHEN IT HITS!!![/QUOTE]
Why would you want to risk doing that? Seems like a dumb thing to do. You miss, you get nothing. You hit it...well, there you go. That's like trying to cross someone up with Gief's lariat.
Why would you want to risk doing that? Seems like a dumb thing to do. You miss, you get nothing. You hit it...well, there you go. That's like trying to cross someone up with Gief's lariat.
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[quote name='Mr. Beef']Why would you want to risk doing that? Seems like a dumb thing to do. You miss, you get nothing. You hit it...well, there you go. That's like trying to cross someone up with Gief's lariat.[/QUOTE]
Well it requires precise timing and it's something that I've learned to do consistently. I think I should be rewarded for it. Unfortunately, I don't think the SFIV developers even knew about it.. and that's why it gets punished.
Well it requires precise timing and it's something that I've learned to do consistently. I think I should be rewarded for it. Unfortunately, I don't think the SFIV developers even knew about it.. and that's why it gets punished.
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