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I'll probably end up picking up Blops 2 when I get burnt out on halo.
GGT 203's stock price is higher than THQ's.
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I'd pay $20 for Blops 2 Zombies.
[quote name='gunm']I'd get it free with the full game. Oops.
Also...fuuuuuuuuuu~ http://games.yahoo.com/blogs/plugge...tion-vita-deemed-embarrassment-181628122.html
And lol.[/QUOTE]
Yay! My quest to get a Vita for about $150 within 12 months will be realized!
Also...fuuuuuuuuuu~ http://games.yahoo.com/blogs/plugge...tion-vita-deemed-embarrassment-181628122.html
And lol.[/QUOTE]
Yay! My quest to get a Vita for about $150 within 12 months will be realized!
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If someone paid me $10 I'd think about playing BLOPS2 zombies, and probably decide against it.
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Bring on the Vita 2000.
[quote name='distgfx']Damn, already?[/QUOTE]
I never actually intended to keep it for long. I only bought it because of the Microsoft Store deal. Sold the game for $50 while it was still hot and listed the DLC armor code on ebay, which should mean I'll get my money back and walk away with a free $25 MS store gift card and Halo 4 rental basically.
I never actually intended to keep it for long. I only bought it because of the Microsoft Store deal. Sold the game for $50 while it was still hot and listed the DLC armor code on ebay, which should mean I'll get my money back and walk away with a free $25 MS store gift card and Halo 4 rental basically.
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[quote name='ihadFG']I never actually intended to keep it for long. I only bought it because of the Microsoft Store deal. Sold the game for $50 while it was still hot and listed the DLC armor code on ebay, which should mean I'll get my money back and walk away with a free $25 MS store gift card and Halo 4 rental basically.[/QUOTE]
Work the system, man.
Work the system, man.
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horde or alliance jcart?
[quote name='ihadFG']I never actually intended to keep it for long. I only bought it because of the Microsoft Store deal. Sold the game for $50 while it was still hot and listed the DLC armor code on ebay, which should mean I'll get my money back and walk away with a free $25 MS store gift card and Halo 4 rental basically.[/QUOTE]
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"The Old Republic servers are presently down for maintenance. Please visit our forums for more information."
Okay, it seems weird to have maintenance right after your massive maintenance thing, bu-
"Our forums are presently down for maintence."
What in the name of
is wrong with you?
Okay, it seems weird to have maintenance right after your massive maintenance thing, bu-
"Our forums are presently down for maintence."
What in the name of
is wrong with you?
panzerfaust
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were you a MMO man in any of your past lives crotch?
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[quote name='panzerfaust']were you a MMO man in any of your past lives crotch?[/QUOTE]
Nah, I'm pretty new to the whole MMO thang. Don't like subscriptions; don't particularly care for the genre-standard gameplay. If I want to around with other people I'll play Starcraft or Tribes or NS2 or... pretty much anything else.
The game gives off a heavy impression that I'm a barely-tolerated nuisance.
Nah, I'm pretty new to the whole MMO thang. Don't like subscriptions; don't particularly care for the genre-standard gameplay. If I want to
around with other people I'll play Starcraft or Tribes or NS2 or... pretty much anything else.The game gives off a heavy impression that I'm a barely-tolerated nuisance.
[quote name='panzerfaust']horde or alliance jcart?[/QUOTE]
Doesn't matter I got toons on both sides
[quote name='The Crotch']"The Old Republic servers are presently down for maintenance. Please visit our forums for more information."
Okay, it seems weird to have maintenance right after your massive maintenance thing, bu-
"Our forums are presently down for maintence."
What in the name of is wrong with you?[/QUOTE]
This has been a problem since the start. Someone at Bioware thought it was a great idea to tie the website to the gamer servers in Austin, Texas. Been like this since 2008.
[quote name='The Crotch']Nah, I'm pretty new to the whole MMO thang. Don't like subscriptions; don't particularly care for the genre-standard gameplay. If I want to around with other people I'll play Starcraft or Tribes or NS2 or... pretty much anything else.
The game gives off a heavy impression that I'm a barely-tolerated nuisance.[/QUOTE]
I will convert you young apprentice. You will see excitement, you will feel enjoyment, you will despise defeat, you will understand that time in only measured by your success and you will be welcomed with open arms until you are no longer useful.
The power is there, it only requires you to take it.
Doesn't matter I got toons on both sides
[quote name='The Crotch']"The Old Republic servers are presently down for maintenance. Please visit our forums for more information."
Okay, it seems weird to have maintenance right after your massive maintenance thing, bu-
"Our forums are presently down for maintence."
What in the name of
is wrong with you?[/QUOTE]This has been a problem since the start. Someone at Bioware thought it was a great idea to tie the website to the gamer servers in Austin, Texas. Been like this since 2008.
[quote name='The Crotch']Nah, I'm pretty new to the whole MMO thang. Don't like subscriptions; don't particularly care for the genre-standard gameplay. If I want to
around with other people I'll play Starcraft or Tribes or NS2 or... pretty much anything else.The game gives off a heavy impression that I'm a barely-tolerated nuisance.[/QUOTE]
I will convert you young apprentice. You will see excitement, you will feel enjoyment, you will despise defeat, you will understand that time in only measured by your success and you will be welcomed with open arms until you are no longer useful.
The power is there, it only requires you to take it.
[quote name='The Crotch']"The Old Republic servers are presently down for maintenance. Please visit our forums for more information."
Okay, it seems weird to have maintenance right after your massive maintenance thing, bu-
"Our forums are presently down for maintence."
What in the name of is wrong with you?[/QUOTE]
That's kind of what happened when Diablo 3 came out, except the login just produced an error code and you had to find someplace outside of the Blizzard network to learn what it meant.
Okay, it seems weird to have maintenance right after your massive maintenance thing, bu-
"Our forums are presently down for maintence."
What in the name of
is wrong with you?[/QUOTE]That's kind of what happened when Diablo 3 came out, except the login just produced an error code and you had to find someplace outside of the Blizzard network to learn what it meant.
The Crotch
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[quote name='j-cart']
I will convert you young apprentice. You will see excitement, you will feel enjoyment, you will despise defeat, you will understand that time in only measured by your success and you will be welcomed with open arms until you are no longer useful.
The power is there, it only requires you to take it.[/QUOTE]
I guess I should explain what I mean when I say that it feels like the game doesn't like me.
I don't have much experience with free-to-play games. Never got in to League or anything like that. Played quite a bit of Tribes Ascend, though. Lots of flaws but still a good game.
Tribes Ascend was built as a free-to-play game. Unlocking a new class or an upgrade is pretty simple, unlocking new weapons is a massive god damn endeavour, and cosmetic stuff like skins and voicepacks is money-only. Money can also be put into EXP boosters or directly into an item purchase. Some people complain about the EXP requirements for weapons - and I'll freely admit that the prices were arbitrary as; some of the worst items have the highest prices - but by-and-large it works.
The Old Republic does not take this approach. And I guess I can't really blame it, because it was never meant to take this approach. Free-to-play is the cybernetic hand grafted on to its body to make up for its earlier failings.
See, whereas Tribes - and I'm willing to bet a lot of other free-to-play games - presents its money transactions as, "Give us money to make things better," The Old Republic has taken the opposite route: "Give us money to make things not bad." Rather than spending money to improve my play experience, it's asking me to spend money to un--up everything. And again, I can't particularly blame them, but it makes the whole thing inherently unwelcoming. Instead of saying, "Oh, if you were paying money, you'd get this awesome thing!" the game constantly says, "Well, normally you'd get this totally ordinary thing, but you're not, so we're just going to show you that it exists then put it back in its box." me, the game lets you purchase an EXP booster - that's a good thing, that's a ing no shit inclusion for a game like this - and it still has the ing balls to throw EXP penalties on the free players.
And I hate that so much of it is an in-my-head thing. This is something that Starcraft 2, in its own weird way, went through. Way the back when, Blizzard decided to set up a system where certain attacks did extra damage to certain enemies. It's counterintuitive as all (any unit that has "armoured" listed as one of its attributes is actually really vulnerable because of how many enemies do extra damage against armoured enemies), but there's a bizarre bit of sense to it. A unit like the protoss immortal does 20 damage + 30 to armoured enemies, and players see that and they think, "Okay, this is a hard-hitting unit and holy it wrecks armoured enemies." If instead the immortal was something like "50 damage -30 against light enemies", we would instead think, "Holy the immortal is horribly gimped against light enemies." One phrasing makes you think that you're getting bonus damage, the other makes you think that you're wasting your unit. It's stupid, only-in-your-head bullshit, but god dammitsometimes it works.
The other big problem is that The Old Republic has often been criticized for its lack of content. And in an MMO, players are content. They need people for their dailies or their operations or their Huttese tittys or whatever the these stupid god damn things are called, and by putting such heavy restrictions on free player access (and effectiveness), they're limiting content for paying players.
In conclusion, the new Xcom is pretty fun but way too linear and its habit of ripping camera control out of your hands for its shitty voice acted bits is annoying as hell.
I will convert you young apprentice. You will see excitement, you will feel enjoyment, you will despise defeat, you will understand that time in only measured by your success and you will be welcomed with open arms until you are no longer useful.
The power is there, it only requires you to take it.[/QUOTE]
I guess I should explain what I mean when I say that it feels like the game doesn't like me.
I don't have much experience with free-to-play games. Never got in to League or anything like that. Played quite a bit of Tribes Ascend, though. Lots of flaws but still a good game.
Tribes Ascend was built as a free-to-play game. Unlocking a new class or an upgrade is pretty simple, unlocking new weapons is a massive god damn endeavour, and cosmetic stuff like skins and voicepacks is money-only. Money can also be put into EXP boosters or directly into an item purchase. Some people complain about the EXP requirements for weapons - and I'll freely admit that the prices were arbitrary as
; some of the worst items have the highest prices - but by-and-large it works.The Old Republic does not take this approach. And I guess I can't really blame it, because it was never meant to take this approach. Free-to-play is the cybernetic hand grafted on to its body to make up for its earlier failings.
See, whereas Tribes - and I'm willing to bet a lot of other free-to-play games - presents its money transactions as, "Give us money to make things better," The Old Republic has taken the opposite route: "Give us money to make things not bad." Rather than spending money to improve my play experience, it's asking me to spend money to un-
-up everything. And again, I can't particularly blame them, but it makes the whole thing inherently unwelcoming. Instead of saying, "Oh, if you were paying money, you'd get this awesome thing!" the game constantly says, "Well, normally you'd get this totally ordinary thing, but you're not, so we're just going to show you that it exists then put it back in its box." me, the game lets you purchase an EXP booster - that's a good thing, that's a ing no shit inclusion for a game like this - and it still has the ing balls to throw EXP penalties on the free players.And I hate that so much of it is an in-my-head thing. This is something that Starcraft 2, in its own weird way, went through. Way the
back when, Blizzard decided to set up a system where certain attacks did extra damage to certain enemies. It's counterintuitive as all (any unit that has "armoured" listed as one of its attributes is actually really vulnerable because of how many enemies do extra damage against armoured enemies), but there's a bizarre bit of sense to it. A unit like the protoss immortal does 20 damage + 30 to armoured enemies, and players see that and they think, "Okay, this is a hard-hitting unit and holy it wrecks armoured enemies." If instead the immortal was something like "50 damage -30 against light enemies", we would instead think, "Holy the immortal is horribly gimped against light enemies." One phrasing makes you think that you're getting bonus damage, the other makes you think that you're wasting your unit. It's stupid, only-in-your-head bullshit, but god dammitsometimes it works.The other big problem is that The Old Republic has often been criticized for its lack of content. And in an MMO, players are content. They need people for their dailies or their operations or their Huttese titty
s or whatever the these stupid god damn things are called, and by putting such heavy restrictions on free player access (and effectiveness), they're limiting content for paying players.In conclusion, the new Xcom is pretty fun but way too linear and its habit of ripping camera control out of your hands for its shitty voice acted bits is annoying as hell.
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What does ToR restrict? I only went through character creation and notices most races were off the table.
The Crotch
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I don't know how much character creation has changed. A lot of races are class-restricted, anyway. But...
Inventory space (limiting both what you have on you and completely barring you from banking items), quickbars (which is probably going to be pretty important since combat is based around quickbars; we'll see), quest rewards, equippable items (mostly at a high level, I think), how often you can do operations/warzones/events/whateverthes (I think you're allowed 5 of each a... week? Day? Month? I don't ing know.), anything cosmetic for you or your companion, EXP gains, use of the local chat channel, use of the fast-travel system, number of characters allowed on each account (two), companion skills (all the game's crafting shit), the amount of money you're allowed to carry, and on-site revives.
Inventory space (limiting both what you have on you and completely barring you from banking items), quickbars (which is probably going to be pretty important since combat is based around quickbars; we'll see), quest rewards, equippable items (mostly at a high level, I think), how often you can do operations/warzones/events/whateverthe
s (I think you're allowed 5 of each a... week? Day? Month? I don't ing know.), anything cosmetic for you or your companion, EXP gains, use of the local chat channel, use of the fast-travel system, number of characters allowed on each account (two), companion skills (all the game's crafting shit), the amount of money you're allowed to carry, and on-site revives.[quote name='The Crotch']Never got in to League or anything like that.[/QUOTE]
Speaking of League, Panzer did you see the info about the shop menu and the HUD changes? Looks like they are taking a lot of what works from DotA2's UIs and putting it in LoL, I'm not going to complain though since honestly I think most all of the changes while different are actually going to be for the better.
Speaking of League, Panzer did you see the info about the shop menu and the HUD changes? Looks like they are taking a lot of what works from DotA2's UIs and putting it in LoL, I'm not going to complain though since honestly I think most all of the changes while different are actually going to be for the better.
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[quote name='The Crotch']I don't know how much character creation has changed. A lot of races are class-restricted, anyway. But...
Inventory space (limiting both what you have on you and completely barring you from banking items), quickbars (which is probably going to be pretty important since combat is based around quickbars; we'll see), quest rewards, equippable items (mostly at a high level, I think), how often you can do operations/warzones/events/whateverthes (I think you're allowed 5 of each a... week? Day? Month? I don't ing know.), anything cosmetic for you or your companion, EXP gains, use of the local chat channel, use of the fast-travel system, number of characters allowed on each account (two), companion skills (all the game's crafting shit), the amount of money you're allowed to carry, and on-site revives.[/QUOTE]
wow thats pretty bad. doesnt rly make me wanna go back at all.
I guess they had to do something to it, but either way they aren't getting my money. Free is about the only way I want to play a gimped KOTOR 3
I miss vanilla WoW, now theres a game I actually paid sub fees for.
Inventory space (limiting both what you have on you and completely barring you from banking items), quickbars (which is probably going to be pretty important since combat is based around quickbars; we'll see), quest rewards, equippable items (mostly at a high level, I think), how often you can do operations/warzones/events/whateverthe
s (I think you're allowed 5 of each a... week? Day? Month? I don't ing know.), anything cosmetic for you or your companion, EXP gains, use of the local chat channel, use of the fast-travel system, number of characters allowed on each account (two), companion skills (all the game's crafting shit), the amount of money you're allowed to carry, and on-site revives.[/QUOTE]wow thats pretty bad. doesnt rly make me wanna go back at all.
I guess they had to do something to it, but either way they aren't getting my money. Free is about the only way I want to play a gimped KOTOR 3
I miss vanilla WoW, now theres a game I actually paid sub fees for.
[quote name='The Crotch']RANT[/QUOTE]
You are playing the game for free. Spend $5 and you get preferred status and the ability to unlock all your quick bars. You don't need cargo space, you aren't even level 50 yet. Enjoy the free ride to 50, then complain about how much they take away from you.
[quote name='panzerfaust']What does ToR restrict? I only went through character creation and notices most races were off the table.[/QUOTE]
A lot of things are restricted. The core 1-50 level experience is still there. A generic list of what is locked and unlocked.
http://www.swtor.com/free/features
[quote name='The Crotch']I don't know how much character creation has changed. A lot of races are class-restricted, anyway. But...
Inventory space (limiting both what you have on you and completely barring you from banking items), quickbars (which is probably going to be pretty important since combat is based around quickbars; we'll see), quest rewards, equippable items (mostly at a high level, I think), how often you can do operations/warzones/events/whateverthes (I think you're allowed 5 of each a... week? Day? Month? I don't ing know.), anything cosmetic for you or your companion, EXP gains, use of the local chat channel, use of the fast-travel system, number of characters allowed on each account (two), companion skills (all the game's crafting shit), the amount of money you're allowed to carry, and on-site revives.[/QUOTE]
While everything that you listed sucks that they removed/gimped, you are about a good 60 hours from really even needing any of it. You can quest through your storyline with like five attacks if you really want to. SWTOR leveling is by far the easiest game you will ever play. Credits only jump beyond the 100k marker when you get close to level 50, before that you are usually just sitting on about 50k from normal questing.
You can still use "/say" for chat. They put the restriction there to prevent gold farmers spamming the general chat. I have custom chats setup anyways so this doesn't matter to me. The didn't know they restricted on site revives, but back to 1-50 progression being easy is an over statement.
[quote name='mrspicytacoman']wow thats pretty bad. doesnt rly make me wanna go back at all.
I guess they had to do something to it, but either way they aren't getting my money. Free is about the only way I want to play a gimped KOTOR 3
I miss vanilla WoW, now theres a game I actually paid sub fees for.[/QUOTE]
TC's rant is just, but not as bad as he is trying to make it out to be.
You are playing the game for free. Spend $5 and you get preferred status and the ability to unlock all your quick bars. You don't need cargo space, you aren't even level 50 yet. Enjoy the free ride to 50, then complain about how much they take away from you.
[quote name='panzerfaust']What does ToR restrict? I only went through character creation and notices most races were off the table.[/QUOTE]
A lot of things are restricted. The core 1-50 level experience is still there. A generic list of what is locked and unlocked.
http://www.swtor.com/free/features
[quote name='The Crotch']I don't know how much character creation has changed. A lot of races are class-restricted, anyway. But...
Inventory space (limiting both what you have on you and completely barring you from banking items), quickbars (which is probably going to be pretty important since combat is based around quickbars; we'll see), quest rewards, equippable items (mostly at a high level, I think), how often you can do operations/warzones/events/whateverthe
s (I think you're allowed 5 of each a... week? Day? Month? I don't ing know.), anything cosmetic for you or your companion, EXP gains, use of the local chat channel, use of the fast-travel system, number of characters allowed on each account (two), companion skills (all the game's crafting shit), the amount of money you're allowed to carry, and on-site revives.[/QUOTE]While everything that you listed sucks that they removed/gimped, you are about a good 60 hours from really even needing any of it. You can quest through your storyline with like five attacks if you really want to. SWTOR leveling is by far the easiest game you will ever play. Credits only jump beyond the 100k marker when you get close to level 50, before that you are usually just sitting on about 50k from normal questing.
You can still use "/say" for chat. They put the restriction there to prevent gold farmers spamming the general chat. I have custom chats setup anyways so this doesn't matter to me. The didn't know they restricted on site revives, but back to 1-50 progression being easy is an over statement.
[quote name='mrspicytacoman']wow thats pretty bad. doesnt rly make me wanna go back at all.
I guess they had to do something to it, but either way they aren't getting my money. Free is about the only way I want to play a gimped KOTOR 3
I miss vanilla WoW, now theres a game I actually paid sub fees for.[/QUOTE]
TC's rant is just, but not as bad as he is trying to make it out to be.
The Crotch
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The point of the rant isn't that life sucks and I should get everything for free. The point of the rant is that they're doing a poor job of making me actually want to give them money. And given that their business model is
, that's not cool.
EDIT: 1000 copies of Natural Selection 2 being given away. Really a shame about the balance changes in that last patch, though...
based around me and people like me giving them money
EDIT: 1000 copies of Natural Selection 2 being given away. Really a shame about the balance changes in that last patch, though...
They gave you the whole storyline for free. You don't need to give them anything.
I am not a fan of free to play. They only reason I am embracing it is that it will help grow the population of the game. SWTOR wasn't designed to be F2P and it certainly shows. Either way it open up the population a bit for me to wreck house on an alt toon in some PvP. Love it when people don't understand the match ups and get melted
I am not a fan of free to play. They only reason I am embracing it is that it will help grow the population of the game. SWTOR wasn't designed to be F2P and it certainly shows. Either way it open up the population a bit for me to wreck house on an alt toon in some PvP. Love it when people don't understand the match ups and get melted
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Oh, one other thing that's restricted: the "social" window, meaning I can't see what players around me are looking to group up to take on the harder quests. Again, this is bad for Bioware, because I am content. The fact that I can't see what subscribers are looking for help hurts the experience of those subscribers.
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Nobody should take this as some "The Old Republic is terrible and I hate it" rant. I could do paragraphs and paragraphs about the stupid shit in Planescape Torment or the original Xcom or the Fire Emblem series, but that shit is relevant to approximately zero people here that aren't also me. These are just unfortunate parts to the game, some forced by circumstance, some created by poor decisions.
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Nobody should take this as some "The Old Republic is terrible and I hate it" rant. I could do paragraphs and paragraphs about the stupid shit in Planescape Torment or the original Xcom or the Fire Emblem series, but that shit is relevant to approximately zero people here that aren't also me. These are just unfortunate parts to the game, some forced by circumstance, some created by poor decisions.
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[quote name='icebeast']Speaking of League, Panzer did you see the info about the shop menu and the HUD changes? Looks like they are taking a lot of what works from DotA2's UIs and putting it in LoL, I'm not going to complain though since honestly I think most all of the changes while different are actually going to be for the better.[/QUOTE]
I actually just uninstalled the game a couple days ago. Without a serious team to play with I began to realize it was becoming a time sink. I wasn't getting any better, so why play so much? I'd rather make time for other games, at least. Might come back eventually, though. I do love my Riven :bow:
Anyway, the upcoming changes are desperately needed. Items in LoL are incredibly boring and this is why the metagame has such conformity. The players blame their own community for an unwillingness to be creative, but I don't see how we can overcome such a straightforward selection of equipment in the first place.
Notice how many weapons compensate for nearly every necessary stat. Playing a ranged carry? Here's +damage on your lifesteal, here's +attack speed on your crit chance. Hell, here's +attack speed on your boots, and +movespeed +crit chance +attack speed all on Zeal. Twenty minutes in and you're already a fast firing crit monster. Another 10 minutes and you have huge lifesteal and double damage. This isn't playing to your own strategy, you're farming up gold to meet the default and most effective builds. What other route would even think of pursuing? Literally jut a few champions out of the now 100+ sized roster even touch the other weapons offered at the shop.
Mages, too, pretty much have no options. You can go straight ability power with a Death Cap, top it off with more ability power and +penetration with a Void Staff, but then what? The gamer inside me wants to keep taking that to the extreme, especially with champions like LeBlanc that depend on a powerful combo and quick escape. But my only options from there are items that force me take +health, +mana, +slows. What the hell is Zhona's Hourglass, anyways? Why am I buying Chain Mail to go with +ability power? I don't want armor, but there's nothing else to buy!
These are big problems, and you'll notice that Riot can't address them until the competitive seasons ends, otherwise it messes with their ultra popular eSports scene. So while we get welcome updates to art, character models, and features, Riot isn't willing to overhaul the game in a really meaningful way until the season is over.
As for interface, I found DotA2's to be so unfriendly it was almost impressive. All LoL really needs is a hot key enabled buy screen. Tired of clicking on pictures like I have some kind of disorder.
I actually just uninstalled the game a couple days ago. Without a serious team to play with I began to realize it was becoming a time sink. I wasn't getting any better, so why play so much? I'd rather make time for other games, at least. Might come back eventually, though. I do love my Riven :bow:
Anyway, the upcoming changes are desperately needed. Items in LoL are incredibly boring and this is why the metagame has such conformity. The players blame their own community for an unwillingness to be creative, but I don't see how we can overcome such a straightforward selection of equipment in the first place.
Notice how many weapons compensate for nearly every necessary stat. Playing a ranged carry? Here's +damage on your lifesteal, here's +attack speed on your crit chance. Hell, here's +attack speed on your boots, and +movespeed +crit chance +attack speed all on Zeal. Twenty minutes in and you're already a fast firing crit monster. Another 10 minutes and you have huge lifesteal and double damage. This isn't playing to your own strategy, you're farming up gold to meet the default and most effective builds. What other route would even think of pursuing? Literally jut a few champions out of the now 100+ sized roster even touch the other weapons offered at the shop.
Mages, too, pretty much have no options. You can go straight ability power with a Death Cap, top it off with more ability power and +penetration with a Void Staff, but then what? The gamer inside me wants to keep taking that to the extreme, especially with champions like LeBlanc that depend on a powerful combo and quick escape. But my only options from there are items that force me take +health, +mana, +slows. What the hell is Zhona's Hourglass, anyways? Why am I buying Chain Mail to go with +ability power? I don't want armor, but there's nothing else to buy!
These are big problems, and you'll notice that Riot can't address them until the competitive seasons ends, otherwise it messes with their ultra popular eSports scene. So while we get welcome updates to art, character models, and features, Riot isn't willing to overhaul the game in a really meaningful way until the season is over.
As for interface, I found DotA2's to be so unfriendly it was almost impressive. All LoL really needs is a hot key enabled buy screen. Tired of clicking on pictures like I have some kind of disorder.
[quote name='The Crotch']Oh, one other thing that's restricted: the "social" window, meaning I can't see what players around me are looking to group up to take on the harder quests. Again, this is bad for Bioware, because I am content. The fact that I can't see what subscribers are looking for help hurts the experience of those subscribers.
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Nobody should take this as some "The Old Republic is terrible and I hate it" rant. I could do paragraphs and paragraphs about the stupid shit in Planescape Torment or the original Xcom or the Fire Emblem series, but that shit is relevant to approximately zero people here that aren't also me. These are just unfortunate parts to the game, some forced by circumstance, some created by poor decisions.[/QUOTE]
"Social" window? I play this game too much and I have no idea what a social window is.
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Nobody should take this as some "The Old Republic is terrible and I hate it" rant. I could do paragraphs and paragraphs about the stupid shit in Planescape Torment or the original Xcom or the Fire Emblem series, but that shit is relevant to approximately zero people here that aren't also me. These are just unfortunate parts to the game, some forced by circumstance, some created by poor decisions.[/QUOTE]
"Social" window? I play this game too much and I have no idea what a social window is.
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the chat window? actually i have no idea.
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Yeah, I'm guessing he means chat window. This is actually a really great conversation to read, btw. I'm reliving the days when DCUO went F2P.
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No, I mean the thing called "Social Window". Default hotkey "o".
How much people who can use it do use it, I couldn't say, so I might be missing out on nothing.
How much people who can use it do use it, I couldn't say, so I might be missing out on nothing.
No shit? That sucks. I think they want to make sure they don't let F2P gold farmers be able to get toon names and spam the mailbox.
Either way I don't think I have ever opened up the "social" window with "o". It is always with "g" for guild, just so you know
Either way I don't think I have ever opened up the "social" window with "o". It is always with "g" for guild, just so you know
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To clarify, it's only the "Who" tab of the social window that is blocked. I can still use the friend and ignore lists.
[quote name='gunm']FFFS the game is free to play, and is full of juicy SWTOR story.
You don't like, don't play.[/QUOTE]
Congratulations. You missed the whole point of my everything.
[quote name='gunm']FFFS the game is free to play, and is full of juicy SWTOR story.
You don't like, don't play.[/QUOTE]
Congratulations. You missed the whole point of my everything.
[quote name='The Crotch']To clarify, it's only the "Who" tab of the social window that is blocked. I can still use the friend and ignore lists.
Congratulations. You missed the whole point of my everything.[/QUOTE]
Thank you, I'd like to thank the droning negativity of your posts for making it all possible.
Congratulations. You missed the whole point of my everything.[/QUOTE]
Thank you, I'd like to thank the droning negativity of your posts for making it all possible.
BTW, MMOs constantly "get it wrong" for someone, somewhere, everywhere, all the time.
You just can'ting please anybody. Funny enough, some MMOs seemed to deliberately piss off the user base with nerfs or whatever unfun, ill-advised design quirks the devs felt like, and those people still hung in there.
Anyway MMOs are time sink garbage. SWTOR held my interest for a bit due to it being SW and I'ming gay as rainbows for SW shit. But there was no way I was going to pay ongoing for the sub.
You just can't
ing please anybody. Funny enough, some MMOs seemed to deliberately piss off the user base with nerfs or whatever unfun, ill-advised design quirks the devs felt like, and those people still hung in there.Anyway MMOs are time sink garbage. SWTOR held my interest for a bit due to it being SW and I'm
ing gay as rainbows for SW shit. But there was no way I was going to pay ongoing for the sub.
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[quote name='gunm']Thank you, I'd like to thank the droning negativity of your posts for making it all possible. [/QUOTE]
I exist to be a nattering nabob.
[/QUOTE]I exist to be a nattering nabob.
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I think the dialogue choice narrative of ToR is the worst part =[
you make a game exactly as fast paced as WoW and then ask players to sit and listen to voice acting and contemplate their morals.
you make a game exactly as fast paced as WoW and then ask players to sit and listen to voice acting and contemplate their morals.
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Morality is important.
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[quote name='panzerfaust']I think the dialogue choice narrative of ToR is the worst part =[
you make a game exactly as fast paced as WoW and then ask players to sit and listen to voice acting and contemplate their morals.[/QUOTE]
Eh, the pacing feels pretty damn slow to me. I guess if I grouped up more I'd feel more pull to keep things going along. And as much as I hate morality systems in games, the Star Wars setting makes more place than any other to implement them. The Sith Lords was in this really weird place where it was intentionally very morally grey and was basically a big off to the established moral dichotomy, but it still expected you to play either straight light or dark, and it all came off as kind of muddled.
Now, this dialogue wheel? This dialogue wheel can right off.
EDIT: I choose the "Okay" option. My character says, "I LIVE TO SERVE THE EMPEROR!"
you make a game exactly as fast paced as WoW and then ask players to sit and listen to voice acting and contemplate their morals.[/QUOTE]
Eh, the pacing feels pretty damn slow to me. I guess if I grouped up more I'd feel more pull to keep things going along. And as much as I hate morality systems in games, the Star Wars setting makes more place than any other to implement them. The Sith Lords was in this really weird place where it was intentionally very morally grey and was basically a big
off to the established moral dichotomy, but it still expected you to play either straight light or dark, and it all came off as kind of muddled.Now, this dialogue wheel? This dialogue wheel can
right off.EDIT: I choose the "Okay" option. My character says, "I LIVE TO SERVE THE EMPEROR!"
[quote name='panzerfaust']I think the dialogue choice narrative of ToR is the worst part =[
you make a game exactly as fast paced as WoW and then ask players to sit and listen to voice acting and contemplate their morals.[/QUOTE]
[quote name='The Crotch']Eh, the pacing feels pretty damn slow to me. I guess if I grouped up more I'd feel more pull to keep things going along. And as much as I hate morality systems in games, the Star Wars setting makes more place than any other to implement them. The Sith Lords was in this really weird place where it was intentionally very morally grey and was basically a big off to the established moral dichotomy, but it still expected you to play either straight light or dark, and it all came off as kind of muddled.
Now, this dialogue wheel? This dialogue wheel can right off.
EDIT: I choose the "Okay" option. My character says, "I LIVE TO SERVE THE EMPEROR!"[/QUOTE]
I always had the impression that this was a Bioware RPG and they all follow this same basic dialog wheel/tree with the requisite pacing that entails.
As for the muddled grey area, that is OR pretty much.
New Hope was black at white at first, but by the end we realized Vader was the ultimate "muddled grey area".
Anyway, you have to be either Light or Dark for PvP. You can't be Switzerland in MMOs with PvP, some griefer will still gank your ass.
you make a game exactly as fast paced as WoW and then ask players to sit and listen to voice acting and contemplate their morals.[/QUOTE]
[quote name='The Crotch']Eh, the pacing feels pretty damn slow to me. I guess if I grouped up more I'd feel more pull to keep things going along. And as much as I hate morality systems in games, the Star Wars setting makes more place than any other to implement them. The Sith Lords was in this really weird place where it was intentionally very morally grey and was basically a big
off to the established moral dichotomy, but it still expected you to play either straight light or dark, and it all came off as kind of muddled.Now, this dialogue wheel? This dialogue wheel can
right off.EDIT: I choose the "Okay" option. My character says, "I LIVE TO SERVE THE EMPEROR!"[/QUOTE]
I always had the impression that this was a Bioware RPG and they all follow this same basic dialog wheel/tree with the requisite pacing that entails.
As for the muddled grey area, that is OR pretty much.
New Hope was black at white at first, but by the end we realized Vader was the ultimate "muddled grey area".
Anyway, you have to be either Light or Dark for PvP. You can't be Switzerland in MMOs with PvP, some griefer will still gank your ass.
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[quote name='gunm']I always had the impression that this was a Bioware RPG and they all follow this same basic dialog wheel/tree with the requisite pacing that entails.
As for the muddled grey area, that is OR pretty much.
New Hope was black at white at first, but by the end we realized Vader was the ultimate "muddled grey area".
Anyway, you have to be either Light or Dark for PvP. You can't be Switzerland in MMOs with PvP, some griefer will still gank your ass.[/QUOTE]
dialogue wheels. Trees for life, motherers.
As far as the muddled grey thing in The Sith Lords goes:
Not planning on doing much PvP right now, which is good I guess, because my Sith marauder seems pretty muddled so far. His love ofing shit up extends to ing Imperial shit up, so he gains a fair bit of light side points along the way.
As for the muddled grey area, that is OR pretty much.
New Hope was black at white at first, but by the end we realized Vader was the ultimate "muddled grey area".
Anyway, you have to be either Light or Dark for PvP. You can't be Switzerland in MMOs with PvP, some griefer will still gank your ass.[/QUOTE]
dialogue wheels. Trees for life, motherers.As far as the muddled grey thing in The Sith Lords goes:
The basic deal is, Jedi and Sith are both ing parasites that do nothing for the galaxy except drag them into pointless wars every now and then, and we'd all be a lot better off if this "force" thing just ed on off.
ing parasites that do nothing for the galaxy except drag them into pointless wars every now and then, and we'd all be a lot better off if this "force" thing just ed on off.Not planning on doing much PvP right now, which is good I guess, because my Sith marauder seems pretty muddled so far. His love of
ing shit up extends to ing Imperial shit up, so he gains a fair bit of light side points along the way.
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I love dialogue wheels. Especially Mass Effect ones, where they clearly mark the paragon, renegade, and neutral choices. Thinking about what I'm saying suuuuuuuuuuuucks, just tell me blue, white, or red. I ain't got time to think.
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