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If you have a decent PC you can forgo the need for a 360 entirely, it's been that way since forever. I always assumed people payed for XBL because they were simply uninformed abut gaming in general --kudos to MS for capitalizing on that.

If you don't have a PC then well...why don't you?
 
[quote name='panzerfaust']If you have a decent PC you can forgo the need for a 360 entirely, it's been that way since forever. I always assumed people payed for XBL because they were simply uninformed abut gaming in general --kudos to MS for capitalizing on that.

If you don't have a PC then well...why don't you?[/QUOTE]

Gears 2 and Dead Rising weren't on PC were they? What about some of the XBLA exclusive titles like Case Zero or Shadow Complex?

Plus most people who want to play games on their big screen don't really feel like building an expensive desktop to sit in the familyroom next to the 42" LCD. :lol:
 
I went into gamestop to trade an old wii mario kart wheel I found while moving and some guy was trying to get cash for his 360 slim 250gb..

Offered him $175 cash. Now I have a 360 slim..

He had soul calibur 4 and Blue Dragon too. Said he only had it for a week, and it's in pretty good condition. They had just finished testing the unit, the employess kinda gave me a dirty look.

And no, I'm not the defense force, I'm just saying you made a very inflammatory and generalized statement that has no basis in reality. Yes, the 360 does have reliability issues, but unless you have some statistics I haven't seen, every user is not sending it in yearly for repair. It's total exaggeration, just like someone saying "PS3 has no games" it may be how you perceive it, but it's not factual and it's not productive discussion.
 
Sega Saturn was the best videogaming time for me. Specifically once I discovered the joys of imports. Have fun with that gimped port of X-men vs. Streetfighter, PSX fans.

I only have a gold membership now because the lady found a 12 month live card in a pile of original Xbox crap at a yard sale. $1 for 12 months of gold, an Xbox 1 headset, and about a million A/V cables.
 
http://www.nofussreviews.com/survey-results-2010.php

The article claims 42% of 360s die. More than half of those have the repaired console die (55%). Of those, 39% failed a 3rd time.

Personally, everyone I've ever known that has a 360 (non-internet) has been through at least one repair. Both of my brand new consoles had lifespans of less than 14 months. I'm on my third one now. Most of the people I've interacted with regularly in these forums over the past 4+ years have had at least one failure.

Though this is all moot, since I was replying to seanr about his "360 experience" being his favorite by asserting that, FOR ME, the "360 experience" this generation was previously exceeded by my experiences with my PS2/SNES/PSX and PS3.

For the record, my 360 experience has been absoltely terrible -- I am on my 3rd console since December 2007. First unit died in February 2009. Second unit, bought in November 2008, died in August of 2009. I'm expecting my December 2009 console to die sometime in 2011, though to be fair, I've moved on to using my ps3 as my primary gaming device, so the lack of use may actually prolong the lifespan of this third unit. Since I now log hundreds of hours on my ps3 vs my 360, the 360 rarely has a chance to overheat because it's stock fan is not adequate for cooling the system properly. Will my PS3 die from "overuse"? I don't know... but so far, even after a single repair on my defective 60gb, it's run like a champ until I sold it for a slim, so I hope not.
 
Well, certainly I'm not saying there are not problems with the 360. There a lot of problems.

The tone of your statement was just a bit inflammatory and exaggerated is all. No big deal.
 
[quote name='corrosivefrost']Gears 2 and Dead Rising weren't on PC were they? What about some of the XBLA exclusive titles like Case Zero or Shadow Complex?

Plus most people who want to play games on their big screen don't really feel like building an expensive desktop to sit in the familyroom next to the 42" LCD. :lol:[/QUOTE]

I mean hey, I'm not saying you're wrong -- if there are 360 exclusives that you feel are must haves than by all means, pay the fees. Everyone has their shit they have to play, no matter what. Stuff like Gears is fun but doesn't fall into that category for me, largely because I've been playing shooters all my life and I don't find that game all that exhilarating in comparison.

But I just always thought that buying a 360 was a very hard decision to make if you knew of the alternatives. A 360 and a big TV will easily cost you more than a decent PC. Tack on the fees everyone is complaining about and for features that are largely free with internet subscription on the PC and better -- well it comes out to quite a bit for a system that you only need because you want to play what? Dead Rising, Fable, and Gears?

Once again, if that's the killer shit people buy consoles for than I won't sit here and judge. But considering that PC has had shooters on lock down, there doesn't seem to be a whole lot of reasons to pick a 360 over the other choices, considering how much money you're spending.

Again, this really comes down to a lack of information. Consoles are becoming more like PCs and people who never gamed on a PC because it's "too complicated" or "too expensive" are living about 10 years in the past. So when people see stuff like Halo and all these multiplayer options for the first time on their video game box, they get all excited and happily shell out fo XBL fees and pay $15 for maps every few months -- it's been a brilliant move by both MS, Sony, and developers in screwing over people who are oblivious to what's happening.

We all need PCs anyways. A lot of us are probably on some $500-600 HP laptop or something because it's an essential part of life, and honestly, for $100-$200 more you could get a modern set up with a 20 inch monitor -- and access to 90% of the 360's library. This isn't some complicated thing where you have to know how to build your shit. Or you could get ripped off and buy a OK computer for $500 and then go out and get your 360 for your 48 inch TV, and set up that subscription. What do I know?

I bought a console for specific games as well, we all do. But I'm not paying shit for online or dumbed down games with a dozen DLC packs. For example, BFBC2 sold like crazy, and it's essentially BF2 with hilariously smaller maps -- no one knows that though, so shhhhhhh.

I could go on but chances are I've already been labeled an elitist.
 
Most fun I've had was the Dreamcast/PS2/Xbox/Gamecube era. I skipped the PS1/N64 era after FFVII and when I got back into gaming, GTA3 had been out for a month or two. Everything was new again and there was more gaming info than I could possibly want on the internet, which I hadn't used to read about gaming before, aside from FAQs on gamefaqs. I nerded out like crazy, amassed a gigantic collection (for me...about 100 games) and now have way too much brain space taken up by gaming knowledge. I pretty much bought into the hype about every single obscure title out there...told myself I'd play through all the NIS srpgs, all the weird obscure dreamcast games, all the PS1 rpgs, all the Atlus games, etc. I was so psyched that I could read about every obscure niche of gaming on the internet...and it was at a time where I needed to replace my social life with anything healthier (and anything was healthier than my social life at that time, heh), so gaming filled a role for me.

I played like a few hours of everything from the PS1 + PS2 eras, while devouring every bit of gaming news, reading shitloads of reviews, talking about games constantly on message boards, and running around finding deals and stuff. I also went back and bought a bunch of retro consoles and a bunch of games for those. I only sunk a shitload of time into a few RPGs, Ninja Gaiden and DOAUltimate, though.

I was more into the hobby side. Now I just kinda know what's going to be good and buy/read a lot less. I'm still kind of into it, but it's not nearly as exciting now that I'm familiar with devs, release schedules, the news cycle that revolves around E3, and all that; where it was all surprises before. Also, the wii fucked everything up.

I think what I actually play is of higher quality than last gen though and I have more fun with actual games...I can appreciate them more when I have less free time.

Although, compared to most people, I'm still neck deep in the hobby, but it feels like I'm barely involved compared to before :lol:
 
[quote name='panzerfaust']I mean hey, I'm not saying you're wrong -- if there are 360 exclusives that you feel are must haves than by all means, pay the fees. Everyone has their shit they have to play, no matter what. Stuff like Gears is fun but doesn't fall into that category for me, largely because I've been playing shooters all my life and I don't find that game all that exhilarating in comparison.

But I just always thought that buying a 360 was a very hard decision to make if you knew of the alternatives. A 360 and a big TV will easily cost you more than a decent PC. Tack on the fees everyone is complaining about and for features that are largely free with internet subscription on the PC and better -- well it comes out to quite a bit for a system that you only need because you want to play what? Dead Rising, Fable, and Gears?

Once again, if that's the killer shit people buy consoles for than I won't sit here and judge. But considering that PC has had shooters on lock down, there doesn't seem to be a whole lot of reasons to pick a 360 over the other choices, considering how much money you're spending.

Again, this really comes down to a lack of information. Consoles are becoming more like PCs and people who never gamed on a PC because it's "too complicated" or "too expensive" are living about 10 years in the past. So when people see stuff like Halo and all these multiplayer options for the first time on their video game box, they get all excited and happily shell out fo XBL fees and pay $15 for maps every few months -- it's been a brilliant move by both MS, Sony, and developers in screwing over people who are oblivious to what's happening.

We all need PCs anyways. A lot of us are probably on some $500-600 HP laptop or something because it's an essential part of life, and honestly, for $100-$200 more you could get a modern set up with a 20 inch monitor -- and access to 90% of the 360's library. This isn't some complicated thing where you have to know how to build your shit. Or you could get ripped off and buy a OK computer for $500 and then go out and get your 360 for your 48 inch TV, and set up that subscription. What do I know?

I bought a console for specific games as well, we all do. But I'm not paying shit for online or dumbed down games with a dozen DLC packs. For example, BFBC2 sold like crazy, and it's essentially BF2 with hilariously smaller maps -- no one knows that though, so shhhhhhh.

I could go on but chances are I've already been labeled an elitist.[/QUOTE]

Not saying your wrong -- but I've always hated keyboard and mouse controls -- now that I have a 360 controller and the kit for using it on PC, I'm happy to consider it -- but considering that I don't even own a computer at this point in time and my last computer was a $400 laptop which I could sit with on the couch and use the internet while I'm watching TV -- it could handle torchlight and audiosurf -- but I don't think it'd handle half of what my $99 360 does. :) Trust me, I can see both sides, but for me, desktop for gaming really isn't practical -- maybe someday if I move into a new house with 4+ BRs and can create a study/game room for myself, then I'll look at having a nice desktop with a slick monitor.
 
[quote name='dallow']The new integrated graphics for PCs next year will outperform consoles now.
Won't even need a video card.[/QUOTE]

With a console the overhead from the OS is minimal.
With a gaming PC, I mean fuck, you probably want 64-bit windows 7 with no less than 4gb of RAM, probably more. I tried running Windows 7 with only 1gb of memory -- it was serviceable, but fuck, trying to play anything recent probably would've killed it. :lol:
 
[quote name='ninja dog']yes, but nobody has cell processors.

CELL

cell's gonna power toasters one day[/QUOTE]

:rofl:

hey mamesj, you got any bayonetta tips for me? specifically dealing with enemies which are nearly (or fully) impossible to trigger witch time against? Those grace and glory motherfuckers driver me nuts... those and the kinships -- most other enemies, I have their numbers, but the grace and glory (I think -- fire and electric manbeast type bitches, not the actual gryphon alligator motherfuckers) have my number and kinships make me want to punch orphans.
 
Yeah 360 is good times, best console I've owned by a long way.

Seems like I've got Live cards to last me to Jan 2015, so I guess this price rise don't amount to much.
 
[quote name='corrosivefrost']
If you own a 360, you're going to have to get it regularly repaired -- the jury is out on the new 360 S, but for original 360 consoles, it doesn't matter which HW revision you get, they all die and they usually do it sooner rather than later.
[/quote]

True, the failure rate is abysmal. Thankfully, I've dodged the bullet. I have a purchased in Oct 2007 pre-Falcon model that is still going strong. *knocks on wood*


[quote name='panzerfaust']If you have a decent PC you can forgo the need for a 360 entirely, it's been that way since forever. I always assumed people payed for XBL because they were simply uninformed abut gaming in general --kudos to MS for capitalizing on that.

If you don't have a PC then well...why don't you?[/QUOTE]

Because I hate gaming on a PC. I spend a shit ton of hours on PC/laptop already between work, e-mail, net surfing etc. I just can't bring myself to do that to game. I also hate keyboard/mouse controls.

So then I'm left hooking up a PC to my TV and using a gamepad. And that's more expensive and more hassle than just sticking with consoles! Add in the hassles of having to tweak settings if you don't have a top of the line machine etc., and my hatred of tinkering with computer hardware, and it's just something I've never been able to get into personally.

[quote name='corrosivefrost']
Plus most people who want to play games on their big screen don't really feel like building an expensive desktop to sit in the familyroom next to the 42" LCD. :lol:[/QUOTE]

Exactly, it's more costly, more hassle and less convenient to hook a gaming PC up to a TV, and I'm not willing to spend more hours at a computer desk looking at a monitor. There's also not much genre advantage to PCs any more. Just RTS really. Before you pretty much had to do PC gaming to play FPS or WRPGs etc. But now those genres are well implemented on consoles, really just RTS that truly requires a PC--and MMORPGs to I guess though they could easily be done on consoles. And I don't play either of those genres.

Don't mean to knock PC gaming or anything. That's just why it's never been something I could get into it personally.
 
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I've been putting off sending in my PS3 for repair, but now I'm seriously thinking about doing the repair job myself and saving some money. All I need is some thermal paste and a couple of heat sink clamps, and I think I can fix my YLOD myself, right? About $25? How much does Sony charge for that now?
 
[quote name='dallow']New Earth Defense Force? Yes please.

Please have online co-op.[/QUOTE]

Oh snap!!? How did I miss this? What console?!?!?!!!
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Rolento, this thread is moving really fast so I lost your post about my take on the new Mortal Kombat. I have a feeling it will be bad (animations still look stiff and unrealistic to me) but I really hope I am wrong. At this point the only reason I even play the new MKs is because of the characters. They haven't churned out a good game in so long.
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As for my take on PC / consoles, I'm more into this

just-playing-some-xbox360.jpg

Than this...

pcnerd.jpg
 
[quote name='Halo05']Sega Saturn was the best videogaming time for me. Specifically once I discovered the joys of imports. Have fun with that gimped port of X-men vs. Streetfighter, PSX fans.[/QUOTE]

I was young and uninformed, I DIDN'T HAVE A CHOICE! :cry::cry::cry:

[quote name='dallow']New Earth Defense Force? Yes please.

Please have online co-op.[/QUOTE]

Link?

[quote name='gunm']I like gaming on consoles and PC. Can't we all just get along, lol?[/QUOTE]

Ahahahaha, but then we wouldn't have all of this lovely drama.
 
I like playing games on both but my TV does not display input from a PC correctly no matter what I do. It's cropped on all sides no matter what I've tried. so it truly is the comfy couch argument here.
 
Yeah, my TV has no computer input--just HDMI, component, s-video and composite (Sony 50" e2000 Rear Projection LCD TV), while my computer and old desktop both only have RGB outputs so I have no way to do it if I wanted without a new TV or PC anyway.
 
does no one here liked upgraded everything on pc games?!
if ur pc has the power it blows any console out of the water, not to mention u can dl mods for most games thus making stuff like fallout 3 olibivion etc have infinite replaybility


im a 360 gamer atm but pc is where its at and i cant wait till i can build a new one so i can properly play sc2 on ultra among other games :D
 
Best era... hmm... well I loved the PS2, but I've gotta go with the 32-bit era. I love the RPGs that came out during those years (current JRPGs are nowhere near as good :( ), and creativity and risk-taking was more present during the 32-bit era than probably any other gen. And we had the Saturn, which meant arcade perfect ports of awesome games. I dunno, stuff from that gen still just strikes me as more interesting than what we got during the others.
 
Yeah, those are definite benefits to PC gaming. I don't care about graphics much, but all the mods etc. are a nice bonus for sure.

For me personally it doesn't come close to outweighing the personal dislikes I have and getting me to play PC games. But again, that's just personal opinion and there's nothing inherently wrong with PC gaming and there are benefits like that which I can certainly agree with.
 
[quote name='RelentlessRolento']how fast doe this thing fucking move?[/QUOTE]

People are entranced by the Other G. That's why.

A little over 9 hours until I can play Other M. I'm very excited. I'm also very scared.
 
[quote name='Chacrana']Lol, I thought I was the only one with that picture of hank.[/QUOTE]

Motherfucker that's my bad side.

I don't have a couch, so no big comfy couch for me. :cry:
 
[quote name='corrosivefrost']:rofl:

hey mamesj, you got any bayonetta tips for me? specifically dealing with enemies which are nearly (or fully) impossible to trigger witch time against? Those grace and glory motherfuckers driver me nuts... those and the kinships -- most other enemies, I have their numbers, but the grace and glory (I think -- fire and electric manbeast type bitches, not the actual gryphon alligator motherfuckers) have my number and kinships make me want to punch orphans.[/QUOTE]



Gotta learn to parry with that one accessory, it's the only way. Especially when they launch you and do those three hits that take off all your health. I think the only way to get out of that is to parry. It's a lot easier than it seems-- you can practically mash out the parries and pull them off. The timing is loose and you get to know it fast.

That's also good for the gryphon guys...you can launch those fireballs back at them by parrying it. actually you can parry everything in the game. Once you get good at it, you'll have a much easier time and it just makes the whole game a lot more fun.

Just beat Non Stop Infinite Crimaxu. I'm starting to loathe the shit out of the QTE stuff. I thought I was getting bored with the game, but the reward for beating that mode is a lightsaber...how can you argue with that??? I need a break before I take on the Alfheims and find the rest of the crows. Other M tomorrow!
 
Played the game called "Pack and sell ebay today for a friend while working out and being initiated into a worldwide music performance group while editing film of ghost women"... ?!?!? good day though


Word of the day is:

Viorotica

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be sure to google image that for your health
 
It's amazing how little I can get done playing Just Cause 2. Like I spend 45 minutes and don't get anywhere in the game.
 
[quote name='Chibi_Kaji']Case Zero has multiple save slots. It's nice to see that they at least fixed that problem.[/QUOTE]

Only 3 though. You know, that makes me wonder why Nintendo always uses only 3 save slots for their games. It'd be interesting to find out why that is.
 
[quote name='KingBroly']Only 3 though. You know, that makes me wonder why Nintendo always uses only 3 save slots for their games. It'd be interesting to find out why that is.[/QUOTE]

3 is like the magic number of video games. Not one, not two, but three!

Terran. Protoss. Zerg.
 
I finally finished the Autobots campaign in Transformers. That last boss was bs... missile spamming asshole. I guess it's time to trade it in.
 
[quote name='KingBroly']Only 3 though. You know, that makes me wonder why Nintendo always uses only 3 save slots for their games. It'd be interesting to find out why that is.[/QUOTE]

Maybe it has something to do with the average number of children in a household? Like the 2.5 kids, so they round to 3?

I wonder if it's still tied to your gamer profile?
 
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