God of War III -- Gen. Discussion

[quote name='IAmTheCheapestGamer']It's because I was expecting more fights against the Titans and not to have to wade through a 20 minute walking/swimming sequence all about Krato's finding forgiveness through soul searching.

It was a nice touch, but the long walk/swim after that was tedious and boring.[/QUOTE]

i have to say i was definetly expecting to fight more of the titans on top of that i remember them hyping how many enemies youd be fighting on screen at once and the whole " these smaller guys would be lead by a bigger stronger general type) and they did have a big guy at times come out with some smaller weaker guys helping but it didnt really change anything.

and it was the same type of guy each time. i thought the beat riding mechanic would play a bigger role too. i thought the game would have you feel like you were part of and in the middle of a giant war campaign against the Gods on olympus. i ever felt that once.

if you think back to the original gow3 video footage we saw years ago with kratos running on walls and fighting massives hordes of enemies i dont think the game llived up to what they had been saying they were trying to accomplish. so you have to wonder is there more to come that will cap this off or could the game have been watered down so more people could get into it and enjoy it.

i wasnt happy with how similar 3 of the weapons on the game are either.that said i did like
hades blades and the cestus alot
.
 
Something about God of War III bothered me, it felt all too familiar. They really did improve on the sense of scale in the game, but it wasn't really all that different from the previous two. For example, they used the same technique when encountering new monsters. If they introduced a new cyclopes, once you defeat the first one, they would make you battle two more at the same time. It was a great game, but being the god of war fan that I am, I really wanted to be blown away. I was satisfied, but I don't feel like it was the best of the series.
 
[quote name='doreo503']Something about God of War III bothered me, it felt all too familiar. They really did improve on the sense of scale in the game, but it wasn't really all that different from the previous two. For example, they used the same technique when encountering new monsters. If they introduced a new cyclopes, once you defeat the first one, they would make you battle two more at the same time. It was a great game, but being the god of war fan that I am, I really wanted to be blown away. I was satisfied, but I don't feel like it was the best of the series.[/QUOTE]

This. In summary, way too much of the same without a knockout story line to bail it out... I wasn't expecting them to really completely change the formula, but they used the EXACT same formula.
Begin powerful, fail and become weak, become powerful again with all the same stuff mixed in...
Not nearly creative enough. Also, you guys are crazy if you think the graphics were really that great.
 
[quote name='Mixer236'] Also, you guys are crazy if you think the graphics were really that great.[/QUOTE]

Jaded by Uncharted 2? I thought the graphics were awesome in more "dark style" way, while games like U2 blew me away with the most colorful palette I have seen in a while.
 
I enjoyed the first GoW the most followed by the 3rd.

Like someone already stated, they played it too safe. The puzzles were dumbed down and it seemed like platforming aspects of the game actually took a step back.

With that said, it was still a great game and I enjoyed it throughout. It sucks that it started off so great with the unmatched visuals/graphics of Poseidon and I never really got that feeling again.
 
[quote name='addicted2games']Jaded by Uncharted 2? I thought the graphics were awesome in more "dark style" way, while games like U2 blew me away with the most colorful palette I have seen in a while.[/QUOTE]

For me it was the lighting, which is positively insane.
 
[quote name='blitz6speed']If you found it that dull, it is because you are dead inside.[/QUOTE]

It was really boring and drawn out. Could have been much shorter and got the same point across. Horrible ending if you ask me.
 
I've been playing this again on hard mode, but I suck at it :(. I just got to the
demo part where you fly through the tunnel without getting hit.
I thought #2 had a better story than #3
 
^ Ugh, the tunnel part was the worst. I got so sick of it. Especially the part where you have to go back down the tunnel and you have to stick really close to the chain. I did it the first time I played w/o too much trouble, but when I played on hard again, it took me like 10 times to get past it.

I'd rather have the spiked columns or the platforming on spiked cylinders than the tunnel.
 
[quote name='IAmTheCheapestGamer']LOL They cut the extended ending and probably the one Titan fight to add in something that 'made it more personal'.

I hope it wasn't that wandering in the darkness garbage towards the end of the game that I felt unneccessarily extended the end fight. I would've much rathered another stage or two against Zeus than that overly long walking/running/swimming thing. That shit was kinda yawn worthy for the most part.

I mean, I can understand Kratos running into his family and Athena there(even though she was already 'alive on another level' in the game), but the rest of the walking/running/swimming in there was drawn out and dull as shit.
[/QUOTE]
It suppose to give the gamers closure... It suppose to make you scratch your head and it intentionally give you a "pause." It's very "un-GoW" like (hell, you can't even
die
).

If you understand the meaning of what
Pandora
meant by HOPE, then you should be able to "wake up" with the "ultimate" power.
wake up = when Kratos came out of the "sleep" and there were flames in his eyes. Ultimate power = HOPE, when everything is lost, hope is the only thing keep people sane, the only thing that can defeat the "black smoke."

What GoW series essentially did was retold the Greek myths through Kratos...
 
[quote name='jh6269']^ Ugh, the tunnel part was the worst. I got so sick of it. Especially the part where you have to go back down the tunnel and you have to stick really close to the chain. I did it the first time I played w/o too much trouble, but when I played on hard again, it took me like 10 times to get past it.

I'd rather have the spiked columns or the platforming on spiked cylinders than the tunnel.[/QUOTE]

Actually, i got so good at the Icarus Wing flights, i think i could do them w/o getting one hit.
 
[quote name='Mixer236']This. In summary, way too much of the same without a knockout story line to bail it out... I wasn't expecting them to really completely change the formula, but they used the EXACT same formula.
Begin powerful, fail and become weak, become powerful again with all the same stuff mixed in...
Not nearly creative enough. Also, you guys are crazy if you think the graphics were really that great.[/QUOTE]

Only exact formula from GoWII... In the first one, Kratos is a mortal. In II, he's a god and they have to explain how a powerful god can't kill off those puny enemies with ease. So, the Blade of Olympus stripped away Kratos' godly power. For one thing, it explains the enemies Kratos has to fight and the other being, it's all part of Zeus' plan to strip Kratos' power (as explained in III, Zeus is consumed by
fear, the black smoke from the Pandora's box
).

In III, they have to do the same thing again, because Kratos is back as a god (he changed the his threads from the Sisters of fate, as to the dying Kratos lying on the floor at the end of II, i don't know what happened to him. That's why i don't like time traveling theories).

However, in III, Kratos power can't be stripped away by the Blade of Olympus again (Zeus' original plan failed, which leads to more conflicts). The argument is simple, Kratos traveled back in time or changed his thread of fate, which allows him to wield the blade w/o losing godly power. So, we can't have a game where Kratos is super powerful throughout the game can we? That' why he dropped to the
bottom, the cold water of River Styx stripped his power this time
Of course, we can't have a weak Kratos after that, so that's why
Athena came to his aid and gave Kratos the Blade of Exile
.
 
[quote name='Mixer236'] Also, you guys are crazy if you think the graphics were really that great.[/QUOTE]

I don't understand. I felt like the graphics were flat out awesome. Best ever? Maybe not, but really good. Can anyone name 5 games that can be legit contenders with this game in graphics on PS3? Uncharted 2 jumps up as a contender. But not much else in my mind.

You may be able to, but it wouldn't be very easy. That says a lot in terms of the games graphical prowess.
 
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[quote name='jh6269']
I'd rather have the spiked columns or the platforming on spiked cylinders than the tunnel.[/QUOTE]

For me, the tunnel was cake but the spiked columns from part one made me rage so hard. :bomb:

They took me forever to scale. (I think those are the ones you're the talking about.)
 
@St. Noir and Mixer
Oh, the graphics were excellent in this game. Somehow the minotaurs are the one thing that I look at to see the progression of the graphics in the series. Playing the Collection, the first one, the minotaurs didn't have much texture. The second game had more texture and more detail to the Minotaur. This third game, you can see the individual hairs on the minotaurs... And the big yellow Medusa's scales looked so realistic.
 
[quote name='addicted2games']Jaded by Uncharted 2? I thought the graphics were awesome in more "dark style" way, while games like U2 blew me away with the most colorful palette I have seen in a while.[/QUOTE]

lol maybe. I just didn't see the graphics in GOWIII to even be in my top 5 of games graphics-wise this generation... It was too... Eh, I don't know, cartoony? Plus the lighting seemed bad. The textures of the shadow were off as well, and looked too pixel-y. Of course the graphics were better than the first two, but they weren't great. Not by far. A few times I actually laughed out loud at how cheap they looked(only a couple), especially looking out over the battlefield once first entering the Pit of Tartarus. IMHO, they could have done much better with the graphics for this game. Even then it wouldn't have helped much, as I'm a firm believer of graphics not being everything. To me, the whole game seemed to go downhill after the opening battle(which I will admit was top notch) and finally coming to a screeching halt with that terrible ending. I went in with high hopes and wasn't nearly satisfied... Overall, it just didn't deliver to me. I wanted to like this game, I love Sony, and am probably a bit of a fanboy. But I didn't like the effort here.
 
[quote name='Saint Noir']I don't understand. I felt like the graphics were flat out awesome. Best ever? Maybe not, but really good. Can anyone name 5 games that can be legit contenders with this game in graphics on PS3? Uncharted 2 jumps up as a contender. But not much else in my mind.

You may be able to, but it wouldn't be very easy. That says a lot in terms of the games graphical prowess.[/QUOTE]

In order:

Uncharted 2
Final Fantasy XIII
Assassin's Creed 2
MGS4
Uncharted 1(to me, even)

Heavy Rain was nearly on par, the character animations themselves were really great. Heck, Arkham Asylum even looked as good to me. I really just don't see what the big fuss with this game is about, and I loved the first 2.
 
God Of War has the most amazing graphics this gen by a mile. The character model for kratos has more detail then anything ive ever witnessed in my entire life in gaming and movies. Ontop of all that, the lighting system is the best ive ever seen, along with scale that makes most games look like gutter trash.

If you seriously didnt think this was the pinnacle of graphics so far, you're either:

a) An Idiot

b) Legally Blind

c) Bias

Take your pick. Anyone with any intelligence will look at GOW3 played on a HD set and know there is nothing in existence even close to it graphically.
 
[quote name='blitz6speed']God Of War has the most amazing graphics this gen by a mile. The character model for kratos has more detail then anything ive ever witnessed in my entire life in gaming and movies. Ontop of all that, the lighting system is the best ive ever seen, along with scale that makes most games look like gutter trash.

If you seriously didnt think this was the pinnacle of graphics so far, you're either:

a) An Idiot

b) Legally Blind

c) Bias

Take your pick. Anyone with any intelligence will look at GOW3 played on a HD set and know there is nothing in existence even close to it graphically.[/QUOTE]

I think Uncharted 2 is more impressive. GoW has scale but Uncharted 2 has incredible detail and the smoothest animation I've ever seen. Don't get me wrong, seeing Cronos blew my mind but everything about Uncharted 2 was incredible. Another thing that helped was that fact that Uncharted 2 let you look around everywhere but GoW3 was limited to a fixed camera.

Kratos, the titans, and the levels looked amazing but other characters, like Zeus and Pandora looked really.. bad. They looked like something from Unreal Engine 3.

There's no question though that Uncharted 2 and GoW3 are the most impressive games when it comes to technical graphics. I'm playing Final Fantasy XIII now and it doesn't even come close (the FMVs are amazing though that doesn't help it's case for best graphics engine).

I don't see either game being challenged until Crysis 2 or maybe Killzone 3.
 
[quote name='blitz6speed']God Of War has the most amazing graphics this gen by a mile. The character model for kratos has more detail then anything ive ever witnessed in my entire life in gaming and movies. Ontop of all that, the lighting system is the best ive ever seen, along with scale that makes most games look like gutter trash.

If you seriously didnt think this was the pinnacle of graphics so far, you're either:

a) An Idiot

b) Legally Blind

c) Bias

Take your pick. Anyone with any intelligence will look at GOW3 played on a HD set and know there is nothing in existence even close to it graphically.[/QUOTE]

I agree with Mixer. Although I've only played the demo I didn't see anything about Gow 3 that made it stand out among all the best looking games this generation.
 
[quote name='steveinneed']I agree with Mixer. Although I've only played the demo I didn't see anything about Gow 3 that made it stand out among all the best looking games this generation.[/QUOTE]

I'm not saying you will change your mind... but playing a year old demo compared to the final product and making a decision is pretty stupid. It is also one of the least impressive segments in the game (imo)... on top of being from such an old build.
 
[quote name='blitz6speed']God Of War has the most amazing graphics this gen by a mile. The character model for kratos has more detail then anything ive ever witnessed in my entire life in gaming and movies. Ontop of all that, the lighting system is the best ive ever seen, along with scale that makes most games look like gutter trash.

If you seriously didnt think this was the pinnacle of graphics so far, you're either:

a) An Idiot

b) Legally Blind

c) Bias

Take your pick. Anyone with any intelligence will look at GOW3 played on a HD set and know there is nothing in existence even close to it graphically.[/QUOTE]

You're ridiculous. On the PS3 alone, Uncharted 2, Killzone 2, and FFXIII look way better.
 
[quote name='Mixer236']In order:

Uncharted 2
Final Fantasy XIII
Assassin's Creed 2
MGS4
Uncharted 1(to me, even)

Heavy Rain was nearly on par, the character animations themselves were really great.[/QUOTE]

Ummm....

I only played the demo, but I've seen enough video of the game to know that the character animations are very "uncanny valley"...unless you think everyone human walks around like a robot.

Also as an additional opinion, I think people are confusing "great graphics ever" with "extremely impressive scale and scope."

GoW III is one of the best looking games this gen, but its not for its textures or effects (which are great, but other games have more impressive and consistent textures), its for its scale. Just playing through the Poseiden fight should convince you of that.

The game's scenery coupled with the game's great camera angles give the game a very epic feel. GoW III is probably the most "epic" game I've played so far this gen. But I still think U2 looks better.
 
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[quote name='Saint Noir']I'm not saying you will change your mind... but playing a year old demo compared to the final product and making a decision is pretty stupid. It is also one of the least impressive segments in the game (imo)... on top of being from such an old build.[/QUOTE]

That is why I said I based it off the demo...you know, to be not so stupid. I'm not saying it didn't look good, because it did. I just don't think it is right to say whoever doesn't agree that it is the "best looking game in the world "must be: stupid, ignorant, blind, etc.

I read the review of the demo vs. final build and the final build does look signifcantly better than the demo--mainly because of the lighting. Also the added effect of motion blur adds to the smooth look of the game. But these are just some small tweaks that everyone expected to be done for the release. The biggest change in my opinion i think was the huge improvement in the framerate for most people.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-godofwariii-demo-vs-retail-blog-entry
 
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I don't think some people understand how impressive it is to render those giant titans on screen, in real time, and have them move as fluidly as they do. No game has accomplished anything of that size and detail before.

And Heavy Rain should not be in this discussion. The game may look good in still shots but it's plagued by screen tearing, stuttering, slowdown, and poor animation.
 
I didn't mean Heavy Rain as a whole looked as good or better, I know it doesn't. I also wasn't speaking of the way the characters move or gameplay. I meant the Characters themselves were rendered better, the way that they were animated(facial expressions, textures) looked pretty great. Also, as pointed out, in GOW a lot of the characters looked like crap. When I saw the first closeup of Pandora, I started wondering to myself why she had shiny metal hair that looked like molded play-doh. But c'mon, those of you that played both really think that GOWIII looked better than Uncharted 2? Even by a mile blitz6speed? Really? Eh, I'm sorry if I've been ranting, I'm just perplexed at the feedback on this game... Especially in the graphics department.
 
[quote name='Vinny']I don't think some people understand how impressive it is to render those giant titans on screen, in real time, and have them move as fluidly as they do. No game has accomplished anything of that size and detail before.

And Heavy Rain should not be in this discussion. The game may look good in still shots but it's plagued by screen tearing, stuttering, slowdown, and poor animation.[/QUOTE]

i see what youre saying and they do look cool but i was more impressed with the colossi in shadow of the colossus which looking at that id love to see what they could do with the ps3 for that game.
 
[quote name='lokizz']i see what youre saying and they do look cool but i was more impressed with the colossi in shadow of the colossus which looking at that id love to see what they could do with the ps3 for that game.[/QUOTE]

SotC was a fairly desolate game (levels devoid of buildings/trees/pretty much anything), not mention lots of 'fog' so that details don't have to be shown on screen while GoW3 was busier. GoW3 had a lot more activity on screen (the titans, lots of explosions/effects, tons of enemies) than did SotC.
 
For people who has multiple preorder skins redeemed and downloaded, do the skins co-exist and how do they select which skins to use in the game?
 
[quote name='eau']For people who has multiple preorder skins redeemed and downloaded, do the skins co-exist and how do they select which skins to use in the game?[/QUOTE]

I have them all. You go into treasures and costumes. Then there is a list you choose from and select the one you want and it loads it. Then you back out of treasures and start a new game.
 
[quote name='lokizz']i see what youre saying and they do look cool but i was more impressed with the colossi in shadow of the colossus which looking at that id love to see what they could do with the ps3 for that game.[/QUOTE]

I had SOTC and after saying I'd never understand what the big deal about it was, I got it once I started playing it. I chased down the colossi one by one and I took them down. But then I got to one that frustrated me to no end, ended up not playing the game again after that.

But it was a hell of a game and definitely well deserving of the praise it gets.

Now ICO on the other hand....was just plain fuckin' annoying. Drag this helpless chick here and there, keep her from being taken away....rinse, repeat....YAWN!!
 
[quote name='IAmTheCheapestGamer']

Now ICO on the other hand....was just plain fuckin' annoying. Drag this helpless chick here and there, keep her from being taken away....rinse, repeat....YAWN!![/QUOTE]

Well, if you look it at that way... ride your horse to a colossus, find the weak spot, kill the colossus, rinse, repeat.

ICO was about survival, since Ico and Yorda were both supposed to be sacrificed. And Yorda may have been helpless but Mono was already dead when you start SotC... now she's helpless.:lol:
 
[quote name='Vinny']Well, if you look it at that way... ride your horse to a colossus, find the weak spot, kill the colossus, rinse, repeat.

ICO was about survival, since Ico and Yorda were both supposed to be sacrificed. And Yorda may have been helpless but Mono was already dead when you start SotC... now she's helpless.:lol:[/QUOTE]

But SOTC at least had me killing shit other than shadow shmucks....and if the chick in SOTC had mono no wonder she was dead.:lol:
 
I got my Amazon's Apollo skin code from the GoWIII site! I'll be redeeming it tonight, woohoo! Oh yeah, i used the same account i got the Phantom of Chaos skin, so it looks like you CAN get more than one skin per account.

Anyway, all i need is the Forgotten Warrior skin now, if anybody wants to trade, let me know. I have an extra Phantom of Chaos skin.
 
I don't know what the issues with the skins were... I don't want to know. Sounds like a headache.

Yesterday, after waiting and never getting an email from Amazon about the skin, I emailed them. They gave me a PSN code and I d/l the Apollo skin right there.
 
The major problem with the skin codes is that the ones from retail stores (Amazon, GS, GameCraze and Seven/Eleven) you can't redeem from PSN directly, you MUST redeem them on the GoWIII site for the actual PSN code! It's a pain, i know... but the original intend is to disallow user accounts from redeeming more than one skin code. Well, i accidentally redeemed two retail skin codes using my PSN account and I was able to get BOTH codes even though they said limit ONE per account. The only skin code that does not require this process is the DOMINUS skin.

Oh yeah, i like my GoWIII hardcover guide, it came with the limited edition GoWIII lithograph (1 of 4). There are a lot of cool pics in the guide. My GoW collection is pretty complete :)

Oh yeah, still waiting for the GoW action figures... Yep, they're in scale with the Pandora's box!
 
[quote name='Saint Noir']I don't know what the issues with the skins were... I don't want to know. Sounds like a headache.

Yesterday, after waiting and never getting an email from Amazon about the skin, I emailed them. They gave me a PSN code and I d/l the Apollo skin right there.[/QUOTE]

I had that problem... I emailed them 3 days after I got the game and still hadn't received the code. They just re-sent me an email with the codes. Of course, I didn't know about the $10 credit so that was a nice surprise with my skin code.:)

I see that Spartans Stand Tall hasn't moved since reaching the half-way point... we're never gonna see what the secret is.:lol:
 
www.SpartansStandTall.com has been updated. The meter is now 75% full, and now it is getting interesting. Someone is standing off to the left of the screen (you an only see his ear, and very little of the back of his head) and when the lightning strikes, you can clearly see someone standing. It sort of looks like a Kratos pose, so I am not sure what to think of it.

Let the speculation begin!
 
[quote name='flameofdoom666']www.SpartansStandTall.com has been updated. The meter is now 75% full, and now it is getting interesting. Someone is standing off to the left of the screen (you an only see his ear, and very little of the back of his head) and when the lightning strikes, you can clearly see someone standing. It sort of looks like a Kratos pose, so I am not sure what to think of it.

Let the speculation begin![/QUOTE]

theres also a dead body on the ground.look at the ground during the lightening flashes theres a body there.
 
I dont think there is a body on the ground, could be his reflection? Or maybe a vision. This is interesting though.

image5bp.jpg
 
it moves. if you wait a while and watch the head in the left corner gets bigger and you cant see the body on the ground anymore. pay attention to the ear on the head and watch. or it seemed like it did i dunno i swear just a bit ago the head was in the middle of the screen but its not doing it not ater i refreshed.
 
The reflection in the water looks like a lion faced guy... Maybe it's just the screen shot you guys took.
 
Maybe the game we played is only 1/2 of the game, and the other 1/2 unlocks pretty soon and it's actually a 24 hour game instead of a 12 hour game...

Well, I can dream can't I?
 
[quote name='flameofdoom666']www.SpartansStandTall.com has been updated. The meter is now 75% full, and now it is getting interesting. Someone is standing off to the left of the screen (you an only see his ear, and very little of the back of his head) and when the lightning strikes, you can clearly see someone standing. It sort of looks like a Kratos pose, so I am not sure what to think of it.

Let the speculation begin![/QUOTE]

There's also audio on that looping video on the SST site. I couldn't make out what they were saying at first(and still really can't)but I swear I hear Kratos' voice in there somewhere.

No wait....I know what it's saying......

Coming in whatever number of years we decide it should take, the sequel to end the quadrilogy(soon after to be a septupology)storyline that you thought was done in the LAST game. The endless anger of Kratos continues, as he tries to kill(insert group of omnipotent beings he hasn't killed here).

Cmon suckers, you waited how long for God Of War 3, now buy the next one...and the next one....and the next one....and the next one....or at least some crappy DLC that we should've included in God Of War 3. You know you wanna....SUCKERS!!!
 
While this game looked really stunning. I have to say that I am disappointed with the ending and over all experience. Still a good and very well made game. I was left wanting a lot more though.
 
Kratos is a man with serious anger-management issues--issues that he's been violently working out on the entire pantheon of Olympic gods over the course of the last two God of War games, dismembering, disfiguring, and disembowling every god, demi-god, and beast of myth that crosses his path. This hands-on approach to primal scream therapy continues with God of War III, the first in the series designed specifically for the PlayStation 3.



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