Guitar Hero 5 - September dlc: Papa Roach, Godsmack and more!

Granted, I did figure this out a little while ago, but it's still ridiculous that a very useful feature would be off of the screen to begin with. Why does "exit game" come first? What kind of sense does that make?
 
Anybody else getting the feeling they really rushed this out the door (and offered the Van Halen free) just to try and compete with RB:Beatles?
The minute I heard about the Free van Halen, I thought "OH OH". What did they F up now?!?
I Guess time will tell.
 
[quote name='Scorch']Sidenote, "Sowing Season" by Brand New is pretty cool, and I'm going to check out the CD it's on ("The Devil and God are raging inside me")[/QUOTE]Never noticed that Brand New made it onto the GH5 setlist. Just noticed Arctic Monkeys is on there too, with a great song. This, along with Dire Straits, Johnny Cash, Vampire Weekend, and Coldplay really make me want to grab GH5, since Rock Band never got any of these guys. The $10 game credit from Amazon and the free GH Van Halen (haven't listened to them much, but know they're quality) is about to push me over the edge, even though I've been playing RB2 less and less as the months have gone by.
 
I'm definitely enjoying the game. Like I said, I've hated the GH games since the third one, but this one is very good. The track list, charts, features, and animations are all top-notch. I really think you're doing yourself a disservice by skipping this just because it has the GH name on it. It's actually very well done.
 
I also am enjoying this game but man oh man is it gay that they have a guy singing a girl song or a girl singing a guy song. Ever since I edited my rocker bandmates this has happened but before they had a girl sing the girl vocal and on male vocals it was axel. It was funny I went right into party mode and thought it was campaign, wow no menus awesome lol.

I gotta say the game looks really good and I love the new slick UI too. The bonus challenges is a nice touch, this doesn't feel stale at all.
I also noticed that GH5 is a lot quieter than any other game I own, had to up the volume and adjust the mixer as well.
 
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[quote name='SEH']I'm definitely enjoying the game. Like I said, I've hated the GH games since the third one, but this one is very good. The track list, charts, features, and animations are all top-notch. I really think you're doing yourself a disservice by skipping this just because it has the GH name on it. It's actually very well done.[/QUOTE]

Very good is a stretch. The game is an improvement, definitely. It's no Rock Band though.

The track list is really nothing special to me. There are about 10 songs that I'm glad I was able to play, but I can't help but think how much more fun it would be in Rock Band.

I can't really agree about the charting being top-notch either. They messed with the HO/POs, and the change is for the worse. You have to be dead on accurate compared to any past GH game. I feel like I get screwed way too much. It's to the point where it's blatantly obvious that I shouldn't have missed the note. I calibrated and the game says there's no lag, so I don't know what the problem is.

The features I can agree on. I love the song specific challenges and the new look the game has. The character design isn't as bad as it used to be and models look more realistic. Playing as your avatar is a huge plus as well. Combine all that and the fact that you don't have to have a vocalist or a drummer to play 4-player makes things very convenient.

I recommend playing it, for sure. Still though, the game is so far out of RB's league it's not even funny.
 
[quote name='Trakan']They messed with the HO/POs, and the change is for the worse. You have to be dead on accurate compared to any past GH game.[/QUOTE]
Not even GH1? The window there was pretty small.
 
[quote name='pete5883']Not even GH1? The window there was pretty small.[/QUOTE]Tell me about it! I was playing some GH1 at my friends house the other day, having never owned it for PS2, and I was really thrown off by how tight the HOPOs were in that. I finally gave up and just started "safety strumming" all of them.
 
everyone's talking about how great the animations are, but the drum animations are still really stiff and not note for note. i'm still amazed by how awesome RB drummers are animated. muppet mouths are still in full force for singing too.

i must say that i am enjoying this game the more i play. i've just been doing career and a lot of the early songs are pretty lame, but i'm finally starting to get to the gems i was waiting for.
 
[quote name='Spybreak8']
I also noticed that GH5 is a lot quieter than any other game I own, had to up the volume and adjust the mixer as well.[/QUOTE]

yeah i noticed this as well. i cranked my tv up to 40 (40 is high, generally my volume is around 15-20, maybe 30 when playing RB or GH) last night because it was so quiet. i guess ill hop into the options menu and see what i can do about turning it up.

[quote name='Trakan'] Playing as your avatar is a huge plus as well. Combine all that and the fact that you don't have to have a vocalist or a drummer to play 4-player makes things very convenient.

I recommend playing it, for sure. Still though, the game is so far out of RB's league it's not even funny.[/QUOTE]

1. playing as your avatar a huge plus? they look like little big headed dwarfs on state, custom characters using the creator is the only want to go.

2. the whole RB vs GH thing is getting as bad as PS3 vs Wii vs 360. Please tell me why RB is soooo much better than GH, because I don't see it. I have RB 1 & 2, several GHs. I like them both. I think GH looks better and i think RB handles DLC and setlists better, but when it comes to sitting down and playing them, I have fun playing both. Please please tell me why RB is so much better than GH?
 
[quote name='Trakan']Very good is a stretch. The game is an improvement, definitely. It's no Rock Band though.

The track list is really nothing special to me. There are about 10 songs that I'm glad I was able to play, but I can't help but think how much more fun it would be in Rock Band.

I can't really agree about the charting being top-notch either. They messed with the HO/POs, and the change is for the worse. You have to be dead on accurate compared to any past GH game. I feel like I get screwed way too much. It's to the point where it's blatantly obvious that I shouldn't have missed the note. I calibrated and the game says there's no lag, so I don't know what the problem is.

The features I can agree on. I love the song specific challenges and the new look the game has. The character design isn't as bad as it used to be and models look more realistic. Playing as your avatar is a huge plus as well. Combine all that and the fact that you don't have to have a vocalist or a drummer to play 4-player makes things very convenient.

I recommend playing it, for sure. Still though, the game is so far out of RB's league it's not even funny.[/QUOTE]

I've put in a few hours so far and it's leagues better than World Tour, unfortunately for me, the setlist is bottom of the barrel. Like you, I've only had a few stand-outs that I really got into (Dire Straits, Santana, Mellencamp & Stevie Wonder). I'm really loving the challenges, I just wish there was a way to track what you've done so far. The star bonuses for doing them as well as the 6th star for a perfect performance is a nice addition as well.The new 'plain' RB-style fretboard is a very welcome addition from those overly distracting ones from previous games.

I can agree with the timing window being 'off' to say the least. I'm missing HO/PO notes as well, but on the flipside during fast sections I'm nailing stuff that I know my fingers aren't playing. The new 'fire' animation(played note) doesn't seem fast enough which might be throwing me off as well. I still can't stand the all blue star power notes. It makes seeing the purple notes impossible.

Avatar support is awesome. I'd love to have that in Rock Band.

As for Ramastoria's question about RB being better, there is one distinguishing factor for me. Playing Guitar Hero feels like I'm playing a game. Playing Rock Band feels like I'm playing the music. Sounds silly, but that's what it boils down to for me.
 
[quote name='Corvin']As for Ramastoria's question about RB being better, there is one distinguishing factor for me. Playing Guitar Hero feels like I'm playing a game. Playing Rock Band feels like I'm playing the music. Sounds silly, but that's what it boils down to for me.[/QUOTE]I'll chime in on the RB/GH thing. For me the issue is less about the core gameplay and more about the interface. RB's interface (menus, in-game HUD, track list navigation, etc.) manages to feel clean and precise, whereas everything about GHWT felt sloppy and cluttered.

Beyond that there is the issue of the library, which is much more of a variable thing since it depends on your investment in DLC and musical preference. Since RB got such a huge head start here (with exportablity a year ago and objectively better DLC support), a lot of RB players already have a huge amount of songs playable from a single disc. So even if a new GH game manages to really kick ass, I'm not gonna want it because I wanna keep my library as unified as possible! (This seems trivial to some, but it's actually a huge issue when you do a lot of local multiplayer.)

Meanwhile I will freely admit that I hope some GH5 features show up in future RB titles. The emphasis on party play is great. One of my most wanted features in RB is to allow a vocalist to jump in and jump out within a quickplay setlist. It would make it much easier to create a setlist at parties, since people either have to avoid songs that the singer doesn't know, or the singer gets stuck humming a song or two he barely knows. Allowing a vocalist to just jump in and out, without dumping your whole setlist, would be so much more fun. Does GH5 allow this? Because if so, good for them!
 
[quote name='Scorch']After giving it a little more time, it's growing on me. The strum bar isn't as forgiving as I had thought, it's just that the songs were way too easy. It still feels a little off. The animation continues to amaze me. I can't wait to unlock characters. I've already got
Shirley Manson
, but no one else yet.

Sidenote, "Sowing Season" by Brand New is pretty cool, and I'm going to check out the CD it's on ("The Devil and God are raging inside me")[/QUOTE]

Brand New is just a great band in general.
 
Yea I played as my avatar but it just looked weird. I even went back into the avatar editor and got my rocker outfit and it still looked out place. Funny watching the avatar rocking out next to the proportionate 3d modeled singer but hey maybe its because I create 3d models that it looks so weird to me lol.
 
[quote name='BustaUppa']I'll chime in on the RB/GH thing. For me the issue is less about the core gameplay and more about the interface. RB's interface (menus, in-game HUD, track list navigation, etc.) manages to feel clean and precise, whereas everything about GHWT felt sloppy and cluttered.

Beyond that there is the issue of the library, which is much more of a variable thing since it depends on your investment in DLC and musical preference. Since RB got such a huge head start here (with exportablity a year ago and objectively better DLC support), a lot of RB players already have a huge amount of songs playable from a single disc. So even if a new GH game manages to really kick ass, I'm not gonna want it because I wanna keep my library as unified as possible! (This seems trivial to some, but it's actually a huge issue when you do a lot of local multiplayer.)

Meanwhile I will freely admit that I hope some GH5 features show up in future RB titles. The emphasis on party play is great. One of my most wanted features in RB is to allow a vocalist to jump in and jump out within a quickplay setlist. It would make it much easier to create a setlist at parties, since people either have to avoid songs that the singer doesn't know, or the singer gets stuck humming a song or two he barely knows. Allowing a vocalist to just jump in and out, without dumping your whole setlist, would be so much more fun. Does GH5 allow this? Because if so, good for them![/QUOTE]

i agree with you on the set lists thing, thats one of the reasons i play rockband so much when i have people over. hopefully gh5 can get their act together as far as the importing songs go. i like GHs presentation and graphics more, but RBs HUD is superior. but like i said, i like them both. its like the console wars with these two things and i dont really understand it.
 
[quote name='Trakan']Very good is a stretch. The game is an improvement, definitely. It's no Rock Band though.

The track list is really nothing special to me. There are about 10 songs that I'm glad I was able to play, but I can't help but think how much more fun it would be in Rock Band.

I can't really agree about the charting being top-notch either. They messed with the HO/POs, and the change is for the worse. You have to be dead on accurate compared to any past GH game. I feel like I get screwed way too much. It's to the point where it's blatantly obvious that I shouldn't have missed the note. I calibrated and the game says there's no lag, so I don't know what the problem is.

The features I can agree on. I love the song specific challenges and the new look the game has. The character design isn't as bad as it used to be and models look more realistic. Playing as your avatar is a huge plus as well. Combine all that and the fact that you don't have to have a vocalist or a drummer to play 4-player makes things very convenient.

I recommend playing it, for sure. Still though, the game is so far out of RB's league it's not even funny.[/QUOTE]

Well, I play drums, and from what I've played, the charting has been great for the most part. I wouldn't know about guitar though since I don't play that.

As for the set list, that was my main reason for buying the game. Sure, there is definitely a vast mix of music, but in my opinion, most of it is awesome. JEW, Muse, A Perfect Circle, Stones, Thin Lizzy, Spacehog, Thrice, AFI, Billy Squier, Smashing Pumpkins, Vampire Weekend, Band of Horses, Brand New, Nirvana, Bush, QOTSA, Rush, Sublime, etc... all of that stuff is great. Maybe I just have a broad taste in music, but I definitely enjoy a good 80-90% of the songs on disc.

I'd have to say my biggest complaint is the fact that you still cant navigate the menus just using the drum pads. Sucks for me, because on my Ions, the brain is actually underneath the kit, so it makes it a pain to reach for the controls.

Is it better than Rock Band...no. However, I don't think that makes the game any less fun.
 
just wondering, is the arctic monkeys song impossible on the drums? He is pretty much the best drummer on the planet imo and I listen to a lot of music. What he can do with his cymbals is simply amazing.
 
[quote name='SEH']
As for the set list, that was my main reason for buying the game. Sure, there is definitely a vast mix of music, but in my opinion, most of it is awesome. JEW, Muse, A Perfect Circle, Stones, Thin Lizzy, Spacehog, Thrice, AFI, Billy Squier, Smashing Pumpkins, Vampire Weekend, Band of Horses, Brand New, Nirvana, Bush, QOTSA, Rush, Sublime, etc... all of that stuff is great. Maybe I just have a broad taste in music, but I definitely enjoy a good 80-90% of the songs on disc.
[/QUOTE]

I have to agree as well but then again i have a wide array of musical tastes too.

The thing that's got me a tad mad is that I can't set the bandmates back to default, which would eliminate the male singer singing a female song or female singer singing a male song problem, since they auto switched the singer before. Its not a deal breaker, just annoying to see lip syncing lol.
 
[quote name='BustaUppa']I'll chime in on the RB/GH thing. For me the issue is less about the core gameplay and more about the interface. RB's interface (menus, in-game HUD, track list navigation, etc.) manages to feel clean and precise, whereas everything about GHWT felt sloppy and cluttered.

Beyond that there is the issue of the library, which is much more of a variable thing since it depends on your investment in DLC and musical preference. Since RB got such a huge head start here (with exportablity a year ago and objectively better DLC support), a lot of RB players already have a huge amount of songs playable from a single disc. So even if a new GH game manages to really kick ass, I'm not gonna want it because I wanna keep my library as unified as possible! (This seems trivial to some, but it's actually a huge issue when you do a lot of local multiplayer.)

Meanwhile I will freely admit that I hope some GH5 features show up in future RB titles. The emphasis on party play is great. One of my most wanted features in RB is to allow a vocalist to jump in and jump out within a quickplay setlist. It would make it much easier to create a setlist at parties, since people either have to avoid songs that the singer doesn't know, or the singer gets stuck humming a song or two he barely knows. Allowing a vocalist to just jump in and out, without dumping your whole setlist, would be so much more fun. Does GH5 allow this? Because if so, good for them![/QUOTE]

The Rock Band DLC support isn't "objectively" better - it flat out IS better. Guitar Hero has had a pretty regular three tracks a week; Harmonix usually doubles or triples that number, and as a result has a much bigger variety of bands and tracks available and can cater to more musical preferences. In this case, volume really is the most important factor - aside from the dislike some people have for Neversoft's charting, there isn't a huge quality difference.

Up until now the DLC compatibility was a dealbreaker, but it looks like Activision might finally be moving beyond that. We'll have to see how their DLC support holds up in the future, though - once Rock Band Network hits, they might be fighting a losing battle.

The drop in and drop out would be a nice feature, though, especially if it meant you could incorporate YYZ into playlists without needing to go back multiple menus to swap band members.
 
Guitar Hero = Activision

Rock Band = EA


you can not compare GH 5 to Beatles Rock Band

Beatles Rock Band looks like its for old ladies


while GH 5 looks like death metal scary Halloween pure rock no comprimises.

Even Harmonix said they are going to "re-energize" the Rock Band brand after Beatles.

Plus this year I think both companies got the instruments perfect.

the deep Red GH 5 is great and the Beatles guitars are timeless classic pieces.
 
Seriously are there Guitar Hero players talking about GH/RB in the Rock Band 2 thread?

Now a general music game thread is more appropriate and I can understand the discussion.
 
[quote name='Master Ninja']Guitar Hero = Activision

Rock Band = EA


you can not compare GH 5 to Beatles Rock Band

Beatles Rock Band looks like its for old ladies


while GH 5 looks like death metal scary Halloween pure rock no comprimises.

Even Harmonix said they are going to "re-energize" the Rock Band brand after Beatles.[/QUOTE]

This post is how I know you're an idiot. :D
 
[quote name='guyver2077']fyi

not sure if its old news but the lips mics work perfectly.[/QUOTE]

News to me, thanks! Now I just need to find a deal on them. :)
 
[quote name='guyver2077']fyi

not sure if its old news but the lips mics work perfectly.[/QUOTE]

So I've heard. Great news.
Still waiting on the patch for RB2 and GHWT.
 
Did anyone here send out their form for GH:VH on Tuesday? If so, have they received your letter at all yet? I sent mine out on launch (it said if it was out by the 1st, you get VH by October 13th) to the location in Minnesota, and when I check online, it says they are still waiting for my letter to arrive.

I find it odd that it'd take more than three days for a letter to go from one state to another. Hell, I've had things shipped to me from MN and have had it arrive the next day. I'm hoping my letter doesn't get "lost in the mail".
 
I bought my GH5 at BB, and for some reason, the shrinkwrap feels very "loose." It's like it's not totally sealed, though I'm sure it's factory sealed.

For example, the shrinkwrap on the spine (side with the security strip) is only 50% sealed.

Not that bothersome, but strange shrinkwrap.
 
I doubt you have anything to worry about.
It's probably safe to say, they probably won't even start to process these rebates for quite a while. They are probably getting stacked in a pile until they get their shipment of Van Halen discs. Which I doubt they will get this month.
I could be wrong. Sometimes they are good about these things. But it's 100% a Hit and miss type of thing.

BTW, Where are people putting the "sticker" from the packaging? I'm thinking I'll just tape it to my copy of the UPC confirmation letter they emailed me.
 
I printed out the sticker and also taped it onto my printed bar code page thingy. Been over at the xbox forums and everyone is mad that they've included Kurt Cobain lol.
 
Alright, one more thing about this game that frustrates me. You can have a 700 note streak going, and once you miss four or five notes, you pretty much instantly fail. There is no real notice aside from the screen going red for a split second. As someone who is used to RB, and it being clearly obvious when you're about to fail, I find this really annoying.

I played through that God damned Frampton five minute guitar/drum stall crap (because its LIVE man:roll:) and then all of a sudden failed when the song finally kicked back in. I have no urge whatsoever to ever play that song again.
 
the length/notes it takes to fail directly depends on how fast the notes are going and what difficulty it's on. it's going to be a quicker fail on expert than on easy.
 
[quote name='Scorch']the length/notes it takes to fail directly depends on how fast the notes are going and what difficulty it's on. it's going to be a quicker fail on expert than on easy.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, but even still. When playing RB on expert drums, you can clearly tell when you're about to fail, and it gives you a little bit of time to get your meter back up. In GH, you get that like one second red screen, and then boom, you're done. No time to get things going, nothing.
 
This is the first GH or RB that I've played that I've had the patience to try a song a few times to get 100% notes hit.
I've done it with 3 of the songs in the first venue.
 
I donno if I can ask for this, but is there another who has a unused Guitar Hero Smash Hit code that I can have? I really don't wanna pay the $35+ for the game....
 
[quote name='troyBORG']I donno if I can ask for this, but is there another who has a unused Guitar Hero Smash Hit code that I can have? I really don't wanna pay the $35+ for the game....[/QUOTE]

rent it.
 
[quote name='troyBORG']I donno if I can ask for this, but is there another who has a unused Guitar Hero Smash Hit code that I can have? I really don't wanna pay the $35+ for the game....[/QUOTE]

rent it or snap a pic of the manual at the video store.
 
I don't know about evil, definitely a grey area. Since it is a rental store though it is probably easier to justify though. If you had done it from one of the gutted copies at a GameStop, then it would definitely be evil.
 
[quote name='jp0213']I don't know about evil, definitely a grey area. Since it is a rental store though it is probably easier to justify though. If you had done it from one of the gutted copies at a GameStop, then it would definitely be evil.[/QUOTE]
yeah, i wouldn't do that
 
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