Halo 3 - General Discussion & Info

[quote name='Monsta Mack']Maybe I am just lucky but they seem to die pretty quick.

Speaking of moronic team mates, they need to do 3v3 unranked because I have no problems getting a second person to join me for some ownage, and get tired of teaming with random people.[/QUOTE]
Yeah I agree. If you are looking for some team mates send me a FR.
 
[quote name='saddamizer']Pretty sure you can only gay EXP in matchmaking[/quote]

I know there is a great response to made to this statement but I don't seem to be able to come up with it.
 
Does anyone know where I can get this gamerpic from?
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[quote name='OtherAdam']Does anyone know where I can get this gamerpic from?
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You cant, it was only available one day on XBL for bungie day. I think it was July 7th.
 
[quote name='OtherAdam']Does anyone know where I can get this gamerpic from?
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It was only available on July 7th, 2007. a.k.a BUNGIE DAY.

EDIT: Too slow!
 
[quote name='The 7th Number']Can you gain EXP in forge?

Im trying to get to 600 EXP, i think i have 455 or something. Plus i saw someone with stars yet their highest rank was 21, how?[/QUOTE]

It just means they have a lot of exp points. A higher skill level lets you rank up with less exp points.
 
[quote name='The 7th Number']Can you gain EXP in forge?

Im trying to get to 600 EXP, i think i have 455 or something. Plus i saw someone with stars yet their highest rank was 21, how?[/QUOTE]


rank and exp seem to be disjoint in this game, your rank is based on the playist you play on, while experience(stars) have to do with how much you play overall
 
But you still need to get to level 30 before you get a star, even if you have 600 or more exp. Unless when you play in teams and get up higher then 30+ it doesnt count towards YOUR highest rank which would be shown in only lone wolves?

This has me wondering because i would like to get to 30 which ive been trying to do within team games instead of lone wolves. But i dont want to get their in teams if it wont count and give me a higher rank.
 
I just bought the maps and I really like them. Worth 800 points if you ask me. So if everyone has them you can play them in ranked right.
 
[quote name='Logg']I just bought the maps and I really like them. Worth 800 points if you ask me. So if everyone has them you can play them in ranked right.[/quote]

Yes.
 
Does anyone want to play right now? Im looking to get some easy and quick EXP points. Just need a few extra people who want some too. I have 2 controllers so i need 2 more people or 1 person with 2 controllers, the more the better. But what we do is go into social rumble pit and let 1 person win and the rest score nothing so everyone gets an EXP point. If i can get at least 1 person with 2 controllers thats 4 people, we can let the other two play and still come in third from not scoring at all, and earning our EXP point each round. Anyone?

Edit: Nevermind, if you are interested in doing this another time let me know through the PM system.
 
Ooooh, it's good to be back home for Winter break. Me and my friend Tim went crazy online and led every team we were on, #1 and #2, in kills while we played Social Slayer... Which is weird cause I was horrible in Halo 2, though he was insanely good.

Anyways, I gotta question about social. I know in ranked they try to match you with your rank #, is this the same for social or are they going by EXP, or just random pickings?
 
[quote name='DustHimself']Ooooh, it's good to be back home for Winter break. Me and my friend Tim went crazy online and led every team we were on, #1 and #2, in kills while we played Social Slayer... Which is weird cause I was horrible in Halo 2, though he was insanely good.

Anyways, I gotta question about social. I know in ranked they try to match you with your rank #, is this the same for social or are they going by EXP, or just random pickings?[/quote]

Random picking.
 
Anyone else feel like this game's MP competitive feel is really lacking?

After probably thousands of hours in H1 and H2, I have to say after 200 matches, yes just 200, this game's MP is probably the weakest.

Using the BR is a complete joke at medium range for some reason. AR is grossly overpowered.

Plus the skill gap in this game is non-existent. In H2, when you played Team Hardcore and you played against level 28s and up, you knew they were going to be fucking good. This game? You play against 45s and up, and you have no idea what you're going to get.

To me, the range from level 40-50 is essentially the same. Rarely have I seen a person or team truly dominate in that level range.

I pretty much only play this game on and off if a friend wants to play. Otherwise, I spend my Live time on COD4.

Now before fanboys go off, I'm probably a bigger Halo fanboy than most on this board so don't try to play it off as if I'm a Halo-hater.
 
[quote name='A Happy Panda']Anyone else feel like this game's MP competitive feel is really lacking?

After probably thousands of hours in H1 and H2, I have to say after 200 matches, yes just 200, this game's MP is probably the weakest.

Using the BR is a complete joke at medium range for some reason. AR is grossly overpowered.

Plus the skill gap in this game is non-existent. In H2, when you played Team Hardcore and you played against level 28s and up, you knew they were going to be fucking good. This game? You play against 45s and up, and you have no idea what you're going to get.

To me, the range from level 40-50 is essentially the same. Rarely have I seen a person or team truly dominate in that level range.

I pretty much only play this game on and off if a friend wants to play. Otherwise, I spend my Live time on COD4.

Now before fanboys go off, I'm probably a bigger Halo fanboy than most on this board so don't try to play it off as if I'm a Halo-hater.[/QUOTE]

Majority of the players that have been playing the game since it came out are probably level 50s(easy to level up to discourage boosting). So yeah, you'll either get the extremely skilled, equals, or the extremely crappy players.

But the BR is somewhat inconsistent because of it's spread(not as bad on LAN). Like you'd shoot as precisely as possible and there's always that one shot that doesn't do anything to the opposing player and you go, "Wait, I am pretty sure I just got you..." It's pretty similar to Halo 2's pre-update BR. That can easily be fixed with an update. I'm not sure if I agree that the AR is overpowered. Upclose, it can destroy anything but it's not that useful mid-range/far-range at least in my opinion... even with perfect aim, you'd most likely have to go through more than 1 full clip to kill at that range.

I mean based on my experience, I have yet to find one person get 20 kills with an AR in a TS game while everyone used the BR.
 
[quote name='A Happy Panda']Anyone else feel like this game's MP competitive feel is really lacking?

After probably thousands of hours in H1 and H2, I have to say after 200 matches, yes just 200, this game's MP is probably the weakest.

Using the BR is a complete joke at medium range for some reason. AR is grossly overpowered.

Plus the skill gap in this game is non-existent. In H2, when you played Team Hardcore and you played against level 28s and up, you knew they were going to be fucking good. This game? You play against 45s and up, and you have no idea what you're going to get.

To me, the range from level 40-50 is essentially the same. Rarely have I seen a person or team truly dominate in that level range.

I pretty much only play this game on and off if a friend wants to play. Otherwise, I spend my Live time on COD4.

Now before fanboys go off, I'm probably a bigger Halo fanboy than most on this board so don't try to play it off as if I'm a Halo-hater.[/QUOTE]

Totally agree.

I think I was blinded by my love for Halo (the series) that I couldn't see past the fact that is a mediocre FPS.

COD4 is just too good.
 
[quote name='The 7th Number']Does anyone want to play right now? Im looking to get some easy and quick EXP points. Just need a few extra people who want some too. I have 2 controllers so i need 2 more people or 1 person with 2 controllers, the more the better. But what we do is go into social rumble pit and let 1 person win and the rest score nothing so everyone gets an EXP point. If i can get at least 1 person with 2 controllers thats 4 people, we can let the other two play and still come in third from not scoring at all, and earning our EXP point each round. Anyone?[/QUOTE]

really whats the point of this? just enjoy the game and earn your exp normally, theres no point in cheating, you think because your a high rank you're better? the only thing you get from being a high level is more games that you wanna break the controller and tv , i'm only a commander but i dont even play ranked anymore
 
Seriously, there is nothing wrong with boosting except for the fact that is terribly stupid. "Experience" is supposed to show how much you have accomplished, so if you want to make yourself look cool to 13 year olds, go ahead. If you really enjoy the game, just keep playing it.
 
[quote name='help1']Random picking.[/quote]

Not exactly...in social you get matched up with people near the same experience as you. For instance if I play on my account with my girlfriend on her account we get matched up more skilled players, but if I guest on her account we tend to get matched up with noobs.
 
[quote name='greyzieoriental']really whats the point of this? just enjoy the game and earn your exp normally, theres no point in cheating, you think because your a high rank you're better? the only thing you get from being a high level is more games that you wanna break the controller and tv , i'm only a commander but i dont even play ranked anymore[/quote]

I think it looks cool. Has nothing to do with showing off to others.
Plus i would rather do it this way then spend my time trying to play team games where half my team quits early. Then i just waste the rest of the round finishing out an obvious loss.
 
[quote name='Daywalker']Majority of the players that have been playing the game since it came out are probably level 50s(easy to level up to discourage boosting). So yeah, you'll either get the extremely skilled, equals, or the extremely crappy players.

But the BR is somewhat inconsistent because of it's spread(not as bad on LAN). Like you'd shoot as precisely as possible and there's always that one shot that doesn't do anything to the opposing player and you go, "Wait, I am pretty sure I just got you..." It's pretty similar to Halo 2's pre-update BR. That can easily be fixed with an update. I'm not sure if I agree that the AR is overpowered. Upclose, it can destroy anything but it's not that useful mid-range/far-range at least in my opinion... even with perfect aim, you'd most likely have to go through more than 1 full clip to kill at that range.

I mean based on my experience, I have yet to find one person get 20 kills with an AR in a TS game while everyone used the BR.[/QUOTE]

I just get frustrated by the the AR in certain situations. For example, if someone gets the jump on me with an AR and I have a BR, I feel completely defenseless. But in Halo 2, even if someone got the jump on you with a BR, and you had a BR, you could at least out-shoot the guy, BXB him or BXR him.

The feeling of being defenseless while using a BR versus an AR is what gets to me.

In H3? AR just plows through you. The remedy of course is to bounce a grenade off the ground while jumping backwards, but if the guy is close, they can usually jump over or run by the explosion because they are just rushing you with the AR. Either that, or you have a close-range weapon to rape them with. But then of course, there's the absurd melee that they can get you with. There's just not a lot of options when someone gets the jump on you with the AR.

And I totally agree, it feels like pre-update H2. If the upcoming patch with Team Hardcore doesn't change some of this stuff, I'm probably putting this on the shelf.

And Zew -
I wouldn't say its mediocre. Its actually more balanced than ever, which is why you hear so many people say "Oh man, I used to suck at Halo 2, but now I'm pretty good at H3." A really balanced game was unfortunately, not what the Halo-faithful wanted.

Also, I thought the campaign was pretty awesome, probably better than H1's because of H1's constant backtracking and the fucking Library.
 
i enjoyed the campaign very much actually, ive beaten it 2 or 3 times, i beat the others once and that was more than enough for me.
i played mp for a few hours one day and it was really enough, i have no drive to play it, h2 made me feel addicted, though it probably has as much to do with maturing as it does the differences in games.

i did order cod4 yesterday. looking forward to that immensely.
 
[quote name='A Happy Panda']I just get frustrated by the the AR in certain situations. For example, if someone gets the jump on me with an AR and I have a BR, I feel completely defenseless. But in Halo 2, even if someone got the jump on you with a BR, and you had a BR, you could at least out-shoot the guy, BXB him or BXR him.

The feeling of being defenseless while using a BR versus an AR is what gets to me.

In H3? AR just plows through you. The remedy of course is to bounce a grenade off the ground while jumping backwards, but if the guy is close, they can usually jump over or run by the explosion because they are just rushing you with the AR. Either that, or you have a close-range weapon to rape them with. But then of course, there's the absurd melee that they can get you with. There's just not a lot of options when someone gets the jump on you with the AR.

And I totally agree, it feels like pre-update H2. If the upcoming patch with Team Hardcore doesn't change some of this stuff, I'm probably putting this on the shelf.

And Zew -
I wouldn't say its mediocre. Its actually more balanced than ever, which is why you hear so many people say "Oh man, I used to suck at Halo 2, but now I'm pretty good at H3." A really balanced game was unfortunately, not what the Halo-faithful wanted.

Also, I thought the campaign was pretty awesome, probably better than H1's because of H1's constant backtracking and the fucking Library.[/quote]
If people don't want a balanced game, let them take their Pistol and BR fixation and go play Halo CE for the rest of time. The BR in Halo 2 was a complete joke because of the auto aim. There is far less auto aim in Halo 3 (or reticle stickieness if you will), which means its harder to use up close. What people are experiencing is the fact that the BR is not a an all-range weapon like it was in Halo 2 (well it can still be used up close, it just takes better aim). If someone gets the jump on you with most any weapon, you will lose...unless the guy makes a huge mistake (and this applies for most games - Halo 2 included).
 
[quote name='bil4ltool']Not exactly...in social you get matched up with people near the same experience as you. For instance if I play on my account with my girlfriend on her account we get matched up more skilled players, but if I guest on her account we tend to get matched up with noobs.[/quote]
Funny how I always get recruits and level 10's on my team. Maybe because im a 48 and have a ton of EXP.

Anyway, I am already bored of COD 4 on the PC, and that will probably transfer to me being bored on the XBOX. You guys gives it way too much credit.

[quote name='A Happy Panda']Anyone else feel like this game's MP competitive feel is really lacking?

After probably thousands of hours in H1 and H2, I have to say after 200 matches, yes just 200, this game's MP is probably the weakest.

Using the BR is a complete joke at medium range for some reason. AR is grossly overpowered.

Plus the skill gap in this game is non-existent. In H2, when you played Team Hardcore and you played against level 28s and up, you knew they were going to be fucking good. This game? You play against 45s and up, and you have no idea what you're going to get.

To me, the range from level 40-50 is essentially the same. Rarely have I seen a person or team truly dominate in that level range.

I pretty much only play this game on and off if a friend wants to play. Otherwise, I spend my Live time on COD4.

Now before fanboys go off, I'm probably a bigger Halo fanboy than most on this board so don't try to play it off as if I'm a Halo-hater.[/quote]
Now, you have to get your head out of the Halo 2 ranking system. Halo 3's ranking system allows people to get higher ranks. I wouldn't generalize that "45 and up" is random picking. I believe that once you hit around 47 or 48, ranking up gets so much more difficult. Also, the reason 28's were good at team hardcore in Halo 2 was because that may not have been their highest rank and also because cheating was so rampant in Halo 2 that it was even hard to break into the 40's without cheating.

If anything, I would feel that COD 4's competitiveness is lacking, since it really is just about how much you play to get to the high levels. You don't need an ounce of skill to get to 55, just a ton of time. And then once you are up there, at I believe level 47, you are given the M14 to brutally murder everyone. Not only that, but it seems like all people do, except snipers, is run around like they are chickens with no heads. Thats fine, because that is what made COD famous and fun, its ability to be a pick up and play shooter. The problem is that IW has turned it into a game with leveling up, which doesn't work well with a game that should only be played in short bursts.

Also, realize that I haven't played the 360 for a couple of weeks, and have been playing COD 4 on the PC. Also, I am waiting to try out this new Halo mappack, especially with all the awesome remakes I have seen of previous maps in Foundry.

Go ahead and call me a fanboy. I was in the same boat as you, that is why I got COD 4 on the 360, so that I could play something other than Halo. But just like it was with Halo 2, a new game always came out, and people claimed it would knock off the urge to play Halo 2, but that game would ultimately fail in doing so, and you would be right back to square one, playing Halo 2.
 
[quote name='help1']Funny how I always get recruits and level 10's on my team. Maybe because im a 48 and have a ton of EXP.

Anyway, I am already bored of COD 4 on the PC, and that will probably transfer to me being bored on the XBOX. You guys gives it way too much credit.


Now, you have to get your head out of the Halo 2 ranking system. Halo 3's ranking system allows people to get higher ranks. I wouldn't generalize that "45 and up" is random picking. I believe that once you hit around 47 or 48, ranking up gets so much more difficult. Also, the reason 28's were good at team hardcore in Halo 2 was because that may not have been their highest rank and also because cheating was so rampant in Halo 2 that it was even hard to break into the 40's without cheating.

If anything, I would feel that COD 4's competitiveness is lacking, since it really is just about how much you play to get to the high levels. You don't need an ounce of skill to get to 55, just a ton of time. And then once you are up there, at I believe level 47, you are given the M14 to brutally murder everyone. Not only that, but it seems like all people do, except snipers, is run around like they are chickens with no heads. Thats fine, because that is what made COD famous and fun, its ability to be a pick up and play shooter. The problem is that IW has turned it into a game with leveling up, which doesn't work well with a game that should only be played in short bursts.

Also, realize that I haven't played the 360 for a couple of weeks, and have been playing COD 4 on the PC. Also, I am waiting to try out this new Halo mappack, especially with all the awesome remakes I have seen of previous maps in Foundry.

Go ahead and call me a fanboy. I was in the same boat as you, that is why I got COD 4 on the 360, so that I could play something other than Halo. But just like it was with Halo 2, a new game always came out, and people claimed it would knock off the urge to play Halo 2, but that game would ultimately fail in doing so, and you would be right back to square one, playing Halo 2.[/quote]


Thank you Dr. Phil for that great insight
 
[quote name='omgu8myrice']Thank you Dr. Phil for that great insight[/quote]

I like to think of myself as a Steven A. Smith, not Dr. Phil.

Notice how I put a period at the end of my sentence. Miraculous!
 
[quote name='help1']
If anything, I would feel that COD 4's competitiveness is lacking, since it really is just about how much you play to get to the high levels. You don't need an ounce of skill to get to 55, just a ton of time. And then once you are up there, at I believe level 47, you are given the M14 to brutally murder everyone. Not only that, but it seems like all people do, except snipers, is run around like they are chickens with no heads. Thats fine, because that is what made COD famous and fun, its ability to be a pick up and play shooter. The problem is that IW has turned it into a game with leveling up, which doesn't work well with a game that should only be played in short bursts. [/QUOTE]
I don't think you've played much COD4.

Oh, you said on the PC, it must be a total different experience then.
 
[quote name='zewone']I don't think you've played much COD4.

Oh, you said on the PC, it must be a total different experience then.[/quote]

Well, I can't say its the same, since its a larger number of players. I'm a level 27 in the 360 version and a 30 in the PC version. I look forward to palying the 360 version again once my 360 comes back.
 
[quote name='help1']I like to think of myself as a Steven A. Smith, not Dr. Phil.

Notice how I put a period at the end of my sentence. Miraculous![/quote]
Haha, Stepen A. That guy is hilarious.
 
I have a couple forge questions.

1. How do you get things to float in the air?

2. If i made a forge map with one of the new DLC maps, could only those who bought the DLC use them?

3. Is there a way to erase everything in the map with one swoop? (I dont like deleting everything one by one)
 
[quote name='help1']Funny how I always get recruits and level 10's on my team. Maybe because im a 48 and have a ton of EXP.

Anyway, I am already bored of COD 4 on the PC, and that will probably transfer to me being bored on the XBOX. You guys gives it way too much credit.


Now, you have to get your head out of the Halo 2 ranking system. Halo 3's ranking system allows people to get higher ranks. I wouldn't generalize that "45 and up" is random picking. I believe that once you hit around 47 or 48, ranking up gets so much more difficult. Also, the reason 28's were good at team hardcore in Halo 2 was because that may not have been their highest rank and also because cheating was so rampant in Halo 2 that it was even hard to break into the 40's without cheating.

If anything, I would feel that COD 4's competitiveness is lacking, since it really is just about how much you play to get to the high levels. You don't need an ounce of skill to get to 55, just a ton of time. And then once you are up there, at I believe level 47, you are given the M14 to brutally murder everyone. Not only that, but it seems like all people do, except snipers, is run around like they are chickens with no heads. Thats fine, because that is what made COD famous and fun, its ability to be a pick up and play shooter. The problem is that IW has turned it into a game with leveling up, which doesn't work well with a game that should only be played in short bursts.

Also, realize that I haven't played the 360 for a couple of weeks, and have been playing COD 4 on the PC. Also, I am waiting to try out this new Halo mappack, especially with all the awesome remakes I have seen of previous maps in Foundry.

Go ahead and call me a fanboy. I was in the same boat as you, that is why I got COD 4 on the 360, so that I could play something other than Halo. But just like it was with Halo 2, a new game always came out, and people claimed it would knock off the urge to play Halo 2, but that game would ultimately fail in doing so, and you would be right back to square one, playing Halo 2.[/QUOTE]

By competitive feel, I didn't mean the actual levels of people. I could care less about that. I mean, when you played H2 MLG settings, it was intense. BR fights were completely about skill and aim. Granted, if you were off-host, you were at a disadvantage, but still, the player with the better aim came out on top. Instead now, all I see is people running at eachother with ARs and hoping they have more health when they hit melee. Even with in the level 45+ range, people still utilize this clusterfuck of a "skill". Which leads me to the next point, this game just feels like a clusterfuck to me. It's the reason why I ALWAYS veto maps that are prone to that kind of gameplay. Maps like Guardian, Snowbound, and whatever that outdoor one is called with the flood caves are horrible in my opinion. All people do is fucking run around at each other with ARs.
 
So yeah, I'm trying to get the overkill & steppin razor achievements today, then I realized:

With Charter Communications internet service, it's impossible to get them.


Everytime I'm about to do one of them, it starts getting really laggy, or goes to black screen
 
[quote name='The 7th Number']I have a couple forge questions.

1. How do you get things to float in the air?

2. If i made a forge map with one of the new DLC maps, could only those who bought the DLC use them?

3. Is there a way to erase everything in the map with one swoop? (I dont like deleting everything one by one)[/quote]
1. I would like to know the answer to number 1 as well.

2. Yes.

3. http://www.bungie.net/forums/posts.aspx?postID=13201523
 
[quote name='A Happy Panda']By competitive feel, I didn't mean the actual levels of people. I could care less about that. I mean, when you played H2 MLG settings, it was intense. BR fights were completely about skill and aim. Granted, if you were off-host, you were at a disadvantage, but still, the player with the better aim came out on top. Instead now, all I see is people running at eachother with ARs and hoping they have more health when they hit melee. Even with in the level 45+ range, people still utilize this clusterfuck of a "skill". Which leads me to the next point, this game just feels like a clusterfuck to me. It's the reason why I ALWAYS veto maps that are prone to that kind of gameplay. Maps like Guardian, Snowbound, and whatever that outdoor one is called with the flood caves are horrible in my opinion. All people do is fucking run around at each other with ARs.[/quote]

Ahh, so you hate the AR. That was all you had to say. Did you also hate Halo 2 and its SMG /plasma starts? Or are you just one of those MLG zealots?

Oh, those Major League Glitchers. Disabling equiptment in their matches, and power ups and even considering turning down shield to make BR's more effective. Can't handle the mauler? Just turn it off! Forget about adapting to new gameplay elements!
 
[quote name='life.exe']Place crate. Sit whatever you want to float on crate. Delete crate.[/quote]

Hmm. I don't think that would work for something like this:

slayer5.jpg
 
[quote name='help1']Ahh, so you hate the AR. That was all you had to say. Did you also hate Halo 2 and its SMG /plasma starts? Or are you just one of those MLG zealots?

Oh, those Major League Glitchers. Disabling equiptment in their matches, and power ups and even considering turning down shield to make BR's more effective. Can't handle the mauler? Just turn it off! Forget about adapting to new gameplay elements![/QUOTE]

I stated earlier that I disliked the AR...

And yeah, I did hate SMG starts, so did everyone else. Why do you think you start with an AR in H3? Read anything from Bungie, and they'll tell you that the SMG was a shitty starting gun. Or why the plasma pistol does not nearly have the homing power it did in H2?

IDK about being a MLG zealot, but I did exclusively play Team Hardcore in H2 when it came out. I haven't played a single MLG game in H3. You actually know more about the settings than I do.
 
I didn't hate SMG starts. I loved them. You're supposed to start out with a medicore weapon and search for a better one. You're not supposed to start out with an awesome weapon, even if everyone gets one. The key to winning was taking control of the weapons on the map and keeping them in your control.
 
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