Have you seen Watchmen? If so, help me out!*SPOILERS*

[quote name='CrimGhost']The Disco playing while Comedian went to town on those hippies was GOLD.[/quote]

That scene was pretty awesome.
 
[quote name='JolietJake']Hallelujah felt way out of place. It was almost like they were saying " Hallelujah, Dan finally got laid."[/quote]

Precisely. That scene was meant to be comedic and over-the-top.
 
Ignoring the fact that they obviously had to leave some stuff out, my only gripe is with the music. Some of it worked, but I was really looking forward to some sort of an epic original score. Some of it was horribly out of place, like the rock music playing when Rorschach and Night Owl were landing near Adrian's palace thing...
 
[quote name='Rocko']Guess I'm the only one who actually enjoyed the soundtrack.[/quote]

I liked the soundtrack. I just thought it was too overpowering and out of place most of the time.
 
[quote name='DarkNessBear']I'll be critical though - cause I don't think the movie was PERFECT and there is one thing I thought really took away from the movie:
Veidt in the movie acted way to much like a villain. When I read it, I always thought of Veidt as this charming, rich, strong man (Basically a Bruce Wayne). And when you find out Veidt was behind all of this you were totally stunned cause he would never do such a thing! But the way the actor performed made it seem from the start he was up to no good. Some others that saw it with me that never read the novel knew that Veidt was responsible at the very begining. Bummer
But, Night Owl, Manhattan and Rorscach made up for his short comings, by being spot on.[/quote]

Wow, I agree totally.

Veidt comes off as a complete douche in the movie, not only because of the way he acts, but the way they did up Matthew Goode. He looks like a doll or something. Obviously, if you read the comic, you already know what's gonna happen, but nonetheless, I agree that you can just tell there is something up with him. Unfortunately, I didn't see the movie with anyone, and I haven't really talked to anyone who saw it without reading the novel, but I got a feeling that I will get similar responses that you got.
 
Simon and Garfunkel being played at comedian's funeral worked well. Really it was just the one scene with nightowl and spectre that i thought was kind of weird.
 
I liked most all of the music in it, except for two tracks.

Hallelujah, because the whole scene felt dumb and gratuitous. Also MCR's cover of Desolation Row.

The opening credits with "The Times are a changing" was simply awesome.
 
[quote name='Sofa King Kool']Ignoring the fact that they obviously had to leave some stuff out, my only gripe is with the music. Some of it worked, but I was really looking forward to some sort of an epic original score. Some of it was horribly out of place, like the rock music playing when Rorschach and Night Owl were landing near Adrian's palace thing...[/QUOTE]

I actually think the way they did it was best. Much like with The Black Freighter, the lyrical choices put into the book reflected the tone and encapsulated the chapter. And that scene where they played All Along The Watchtower was actually my favorite of them.

“Outside in the distance a wild cat did growl, two riders were approaching, the wind began to howl.”

When I read that and then saw it, it gave me that sense of impending conflict that we'd been building to the entire time.
 
The worst part of this movie was knowing a six year old girl behind me was witnessing all the gore and sex that even I had to occasionally turn away from. What a despicable display of poor parenting.,.
 
[quote name='genius33']The worst part of this movie was knowing a six year old girl behind me was witnessing all the gore and sex that even I had to occasionally turn away from. What a despicable display of poor parenting.,.[/quote]

No f-ing kidding. It sounds painfully apparent that her neanderthal parents dragged her along because they were too lazy to get a sitter.
 
[quote name='Sofa King Kool']Some of it was horribly out of place, like the rock music playing when Rorschach and Night Owl were landing near Adrian's palace thing...[/QUOTE]

The comic does specifically quote All Along the Watchtower at that point in the narrative. Though I understand that doesn't excatly null the objection. I prefer the Dylan version myself.
 
[quote name='Purple Flames']This is too great not to share:

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDDHHrt6l4w[/media][/quote]

HAHAHAHA! :applause: That was awesome.
 
I really enjoyed the watchmen movie. I only just read the book last summer but I think it's the best i could have expected from a movie about it.

The Dylan montage with the recreated photos was phe-ing-nominal. Even though i'd only read the book once it was awesome to see that.

I think the movie had a better ending than the book, too. I never understood the
faked alien invasion, and the film ending gives Manhattan even more reason to leave earth behind, which he does in the book anyway, so I think it's win-win.

I was bracing myself for a rediculously gory and upsetting scene though. Of all the gory and violent scenes in the film the scene of the comedian being the JFK assassin was the most stomach-turning. Likely just the fact that it was a real event and the bits of skull and brain falling off the back of the car..

Too much sex, though. And not enough blue dick.

Never enough blue weiners.
 
[quote name='jer7583']I really enjoyed the watchmen movie. I only just read the book last summer but I think it's the best i could have expected from a movie about it.

The Dylan montage with the recreated photos was phe-ing-nominal. Even though i'd only read the book once it was awesome to see that.

I think the movie had a better ending than the book, too. I never understood the
faked alien invasion, and the film ending gives Manhattan even more reason to leave earth behind, which he does in the book anyway, so I think it's win-win.

I was bracing myself for a rediculously gory and upsetting scene though. Of all the gory and violent scenes in the film the scene of the comedian being the JFK assassin was the most stomach-turning. Likely just the fact that it was a real event and the bits of skull and brain falling off the back of the car..

Too much sex, though. And not enough blue dick.

Never enough blue weiners.[/quote]

Seriously? People have arms broken, sawed off, heads split in half, electrocuted, blown to bits, and the very non-graphic shot of JFK getting shot was the most stomach churning?

I guess I was looking at something else, but I almost missed that scene.
 
[quote name='jer7583']I think the movie had a better ending than the book, too. I never understood the
faked alien invasion, and the film ending gives Manhattan even more reason to leave earth behind, which he does in the book anyway, so I think it's win-win.
[/quote]

It has been a good decade since I read the book, but ...

There were several points of the faked alien invasion in the book:
1. Unite the Earth behind a "threat" no one country could stand against alone.
2. Put the biggest joke over on the world. Ozzy always wanted to outshine the Comedian. By getting the entire world to fall for the biggest joke ever, Ozzy proved he was the better "comedian".
3. Leave the audience with a sense the joke will unravel. I haven't seen the movie yet, but the book clearly depicted that Rorscach's journal implicating Ozzy was going to be published.
 
[quote name='fatherofcaitlyn']It has been a good decade since I read the book, but ...

There were several points of the faked alien invasion in the book:
1. Unite the Earth behind a "threat" no one country could stand against alone.
2. Put the biggest joke over on the world. Ozzy always wanted to outshine the Comedian. By getting the entire world to fall for the biggest joke ever, Ozzy proved he was the better "comedian".
3. Leave the audience with a sense the joke will unravel. I haven't seen the movie yet, but the book clearly depicted that Rorscach's journal implicating Ozzy was going to be published.
[/quote]


Well, all three of those points remain in tact in the movie's ending, it's just a little different.

I'm hearing of quite a few people who actually enjoyed the film's ending over the book's. To be honest, I'm teetering on the edge. The film's ending was, personally, just as good, if not better, than the book's. It was much more self contained.

I was disappointed when I heard they had changed the ending for the movie, because I couldn't fathom any possible way to alter the ending while keeping the story in tact, but David Hayter (assuming he wrote that part) did a fantastic job.
 
Point 1 and 3 are certainly still viable in the movie, without a doubt. The second one is questionable, IMO. Either way, I think the end of the movie had to be done the way it was, or at least had to be changed from the book. It wouldn't have worked for movie-going audiences the way it was in the book.
 
[quote name='Rocko']Point 1 and 3 are certainly still viable in the movie, without a doubt. The second one is questionable, IMO. Either way, I think the end of the movie had to be done the way it was, or at least had to be changed from the book. It wouldn't have worked for movie-going audiences the way it was in the book.[/quote]
I agree. The problem with movies based on other things, Graphic novels, cartoons etc., is that it has to be accessible to everyone. If you just put the book ending in the movie people (me for example) would be like WTF? And I read the book. The book is made in the 80's and set in the 80's with 80's sensibility (being blown to bits by the Russians.) Now the threat of nuclear annihilation is less of a problem, the movie is more about how we wanted America to be like. Now it is and we got what we wanted.
 
love the film..although i wished they explained how Rorschach got his mask. i would think that would be on alot of people's mind.

and ...
did anyone notice when Rorschach was blown up at the end that it was a Rorschach ink blot.
 
[quote name='integralsmatic']
did anyone notice when Rorschach was blown up at the end that it was a Rorschach ink blot.
[/quote]

I'm pretty sure that was the point and that's why the camera focused so long on it.
 
[quote name='JolietJake']Yeah it was supposed to be, i thought that was a nice touch.[/QUOTE]

The people in my theater were :rofl:ing at that.
 
[quote name='integralsmatic']love the film..although i wished they explained how Rorschach got his mask. i would think that would be on alot of people's mind.[/quote]


That was something they really needed to keep in the movie. Anyone who hasn't read the book must've been so confused...
 
After i laughed at Kovac throwing the hot oil on that black guy in the prison, i started wondering if something was wrong with me. When you're the only person in a theater laughing at a scene, it's kind of awkward.
 
I just got back from seeing it and I thought it was awesome.

They kept really close to the book, which surprised me. Yeah the ending was different, but it makes more sense for the mainstream audience I suppose.

Rorschach was amazing; plus the shifting mask was a great touch that I was worried that they might not have done.
 
[quote name='JolietJake']After i laughed at Kovac throwing the hot oil on that black guy in the prison, i started wondering if something was wrong with me. When you're the only person in a theater laughing at a scene, it's kind of awkward.[/quote]


It was the opposite for me. I was the only one in the theater not laughing. I thought it was badass, not funny...
 
[quote name='JolietJake']After i laughed at Kovac throwing the hot oil on that black guy in the prison, i started wondering if something was wrong with me. When you're the only person in a theater laughing at a scene, it's kind of awkward.[/quote]
Racist!
Nah, I laughed my ass off too and so did the rest of the theater.
 
[quote name='JolietJake']After i laughed at Kovac throwing the hot oil on that black guy in the prison, i started wondering if something was wrong with me. When you're the only person in a theater laughing at a scene, it's kind of awkward.[/QUOTE]

i laughed and thought it was badass and what he said after that made it badass.

"Im not in here with you, You're in here with ME!"
 
I just started reading the book today after seeing the movie yesterday, so I'm sure what questions it does not answere I will be asking. From what i'm reading in the thread I'm guessing it will say how Rorschach got his mask and how it shifts. I'm also guessing that
he also dies in the book
. Also I have to say I liked the soundtrack. At times I thought it was going to be the better part of the movie but then it did pick up. Don't know about anyone else but it just seemed like the movie started out someone slow. I'm also thinking it is one that somone who does not know the book will have to see again or atleast read the book.

One last thing was Rorschach the protester/guy with the sign that was everywhere? I never got a good look at him when I was in the theater.
 
The problem with not having the squid is (aside from the fact that I just find humanity joining together to fight Dr. Manhattan as a bit flimsy) that without the whole issue...Bubastis comes out of nowhere. Veidt suddenly has this weird, CGI tiger, and no one knew why,
 
[quote name='JolietJake']I've been expecting some uninformed parent to start some BS about how violent it was.[/quote]

Every other forum I've been on has had some martyr dumb enough to claim it's snuff/pornographic.

Give it time. They will reach here. The long arm of stupidity is looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong
 
[quote name='sendme'] From what i'm reading in the thread I'm guessing it will say how Rorschach got his mask and how it shifts. I'm also guessing that
he also dies in the book
[/quote]


Yes and yes.

[quote name='sendme']One last thing was Rorschach the protester/guy with the sign that was everywhere? I never got a good look at him when I was in the theater.[/quote]


Yes, though they did an awful job showing it in the film.
 
Reality's Fringe;5605344 said:
The problem with not having the squid is (aside from the fact that I just find humanity joining together to fight Dr. Manhattan as a bit flimsy) that without the whole issue...Bubastis comes out of nowhere. Veidt suddenly has this weird, CGI tiger, and no one knew why,
Click to expand...

Exactly.
 
It's crazy how some people insanely hate this movie. I think Zack has been switching it up, maybe in some theaters he shows the movie Watchmen (which of course is amazing) and in other theaters he shows meat spin with 500 spins.

It HAS to be the case. Cause some people talk about it like they just saw their mom died, "Don't see the movie! You should instead, go to your shed and take a hammer and smash your eyes out. That'll be more enjoyable!"

Jeesh.
 
the movie is rated 16+ in New Zealand. That made me laugh little bit. It's funny how different stuff can be perceived in other parts of the world.
 
[quote name='DarkNessBear']It's crazy how some people insanely hate this movie. I think Zack has been switching it up, maybe in some theaters he shows the movie Watchmen (which of course is amazing) and in other theaters he shows meat spin with 500 spins.

It HAS to be the case. Cause some people talk about it like they just saw their mom died, "Don't see the movie! You should instead, go to your shed and take a hammer and smash your eyes out. That'll be more enjoyable!"

Jeesh.[/quote]
It's like Speed Racer all over again
And I fucking LOVED Speed Racer.

Though if someone like Roger Ebert can give it 4 stars then they're doing something right. I Think alot of fans of the comic went in eager to hate it, while others went in thinking nothing, but pure action movie.
 
[quote name='bardockkun']It's like Speed Racer all over again
And I fucking LOVED Speed Racer.

Though if someone like Roger Ebert can give it 4 stars then they're doing something right. I Think alot of fans of the comic went in eager to hate it, while others went in thinking nothing, but pure action movie.[/quote]

I'm a huge fan of the novel - and I was just excited to see my favorite characters come to life... I loved it. But than again I'm not that critical about things. I mean, is there a reason to be? It's a movie. It's not like they are going back and redoing the novel as a comedy and burning all the original copies. That's how the hardcore fans act. It's insane.
 
After watching the movie I feel the same way I did after reading the novel; I liked it, but I'm not sure why. Although one thing that I didn't like about the movie (I don't remember having the same problem with the book) was that the sex and violence was too much
mostly the face biting, arm sawing and a few of the blood splatters. The sex scene was just ridiculously over the top.

The characters were still the main focus and I felt like I could feel the punches being landed in the fights. Maybe it was just the theater sound system but it made me think that every action movie will be going after Zack Snyder. But the way the guy adapts comic books to the big screen, I don't want him to work on anything else.
 
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