believe it or not... ive never seen anything of star trek..nothing at all..i think i saw one of the movies once but thats about it. guess its because i always saw trek second to star wars
that case above looks bad ass.. is that like a new series?
[quote name='guyver2077']believe it or not... ive never seen anything of star trek..nothing at all..i think i saw one of the movies once but thats about it[/QUOTE]
Battlestar Galactica has nothing to do with star trek. It's about as different from star trek as heroes is.
well i guess you could say it is similiar to star trek. A sci fi series set in space, where the humans have alien enemies. A bold captain looking out for his crew. I have never really seen any of the star trek tv shows, so I could be wrong. BSG is a sci fi series that was made in the late 70's early 80's. It was a cheesy show that had a cult following. Sci fi channel redid it a couple of years ago, some of the writters/producers behind the new bionic women were behind bsg. This new redo of the show is a lot more serious darker look at the bsg universe. It is also a lot more character driven. It is an excellent series. If you watch 12 episodes, 2 or 3 of them might be ok to bad shows. The rest are usually top notch.
ohh, if you do get season 1, you should also the mini series that proceeded it. That is why the did the series, as the mini series was so popular. I don't know if the mini series comes on season 1, or if it is even in HD. But if you start watching bsg, start with that. Much higher production value.
[quote name='guyver2077']o .... so thats not star trek? what is it about?[/quote]
without ruining it. keeping it as simple as possible. its set far in the future. man has left earth long ago to travel/explore space. only they keep traveling farther and farther out until eventually earth is just a folktale. the settle other planets, have fleets of warships & space jet-fighters etc.. create robots to do their menial labor. keep improving them until the robots rebel a la terminator. and then thats where the story begins. its got miraculous undertones & is heavily based on conflict & a struggle for survival. thats about all i can say w/o giving away the plot. just a note, if you dont watch it in order it doesnt make much sense at all.
[quote name='propeller_head']without ruining it. keeping it as simple as possible. its set far in the future. man has left earth long ago to travel/explore space. only they keep traveling farther and farther out until eventually earth is just a folktale. the settle other planets, have fleets of warships & space jet-fighters etc.. create robots to do their menial labor. keep improving them until the robots rebel a la terminator. and then thats where the story begins. its got miraculous undertones & is heavily based on conflict & a struggle for survival. thats about all i can say w/o giving away the plot. just a note, if you dont watch it in order it doesnt make much sense at all.[/quote]
Hm...now I'm wondering If I should get it...sounds interesting enough.
[quote name='ryanbph']well i guess you could say it is similiar to star trek. A sci fi series set in space, where the humans have alien enemies. [/QUOTE]
While I agree with most of what you said, there are no aliens in BSG (yet).
ohh, if you do get season 1, you should also the mini series that proceeded it. That is why the did the series, as the mini series was so popular. I don't know if the mini series comes on season 1, or if it is even in HD. But if you start watching bsg, start with that. Much higher production value.
Season 1 should include the mini-series. It did on the DVD anyway.
without ruining it. keeping it as simple as possible. its set far in the future. man has left earth long ago to travel/explore space. only they keep traveling farther and farther out until eventually earth is just a folktale.
Woah woah woah. Where did you get this? Do you have any sources from the writers that this is true? I think those are your own assumptions. I think that is entirely false. It is never said what the time is in the show, for all we know it's far in the past. That's one of the allures of the show is wondering who these humans are and how they are related to us. Especially with it's religious overtones.
Infact, many people speculate that the show will end with them arriving at earth 2,000 years ago and Baltar becomes a prophet or is Jesus. It certainly seems to be setting him up for something like that, especially with his changing appearance.
Nearly all the technology in the show is similar to ours now, except space travel (no laser guns).
I would say the only similarity BSG has with star trek is that it takes place in space. But BSG is much more of a military drama set in space. The reason it's worth watching is the acting and writing are top notch. Especially the writing. The story is extremely interesting and very intense. I've never felt such a sense of dread and hopelessness from a TV show before.
But seriously.... Heroes is a good show, but go watch season 1 of BSG, and then watch an episode of Heroes. It feels like going from Empire Strikes Back to Phantom Menace.
But don't take our word for it, even Cheappy D himself is a big fan, he's always talking about it in his podcast.
[quote name='LinkinPrime']Hm...now I'm wondering If I should get it...sounds interesting enough.[/quote]
I see you in a lot of the tv threads that i post in, so I assume we have similiar tastes. Pick it up, without a doubt. Worst case scenerio, pick up season 1 on dvd and if you like it you could get the other seasons (if they come) on hd dvd.
[quote name='ryanbph']I see you in a lot of the tv threads that i post in, so I assume we have similiar tastes. Pick it up, without a doubt. Worst case scenerio, pick up season 1 on dvd and if you like it you could get the other seasons (if they come) on hd dvd.[/quote]
I'll take your advice, when I see a good deal on them I'll pick them up.
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now i can focus on smallville again... ing warner.. how do i go about cancelling an order? i may have to just order from amazon or fye as i do not want to wait any longer[/QUOTE]
Just call and tell them to cancel it.
They did it no questions asked on one of my orders that were open.
I couldn't believe how Conservative some aspects of BSG are. Thank God a friend told me they weren't endorsing hardcore Conservatism. You see some of this in the doctor killing the patients who are anti-traditional medicine and the torture aspect in one episode as well. That shit was really hard for me to stomach but maybe I'll give it another chance based upon what my friend said.
In BSG it is really how you look at it. They don't really push a specific party political message down anyones throats.
ie the concentration camps...some looked at the cyclons as the US, invading a country and taking over to make things allegedly better, and the humans as those in iraq, where they used terrorist attacks against there aggressors, and they didn't want to be ruled by someone that isn't them. Other looked at it where as the cyclons as terrorist, with there sleeper cell mentality, they have done there own suicide attacks. As for the torture, it isn't like conservatives are the only ones that do it and I really think you are stretching it with the doctor episodes, both nazi germany, and the USSR both had no problem removing people from society. I think the great thing about this show, is that people with different points of view could look at the same scene differently.
[quote name='ryanbph']In BSG it is really how you look at it. They don't really push a specific party political message down anyones throats.
ie the concentration camps...some looked at the cyclons as the US, invading a country and taking over to make things allegedly better, and the humans as those in iraq, where they used terrorist attacks against there aggressors, and they didn't want to be ruled by someone that isn't them. Other looked at it where as the cyclons as terrorist, with there sleeper cell mentality, they have done there own suicide attacks. As for the torture, it isn't like conservatives are the only ones that do it and I really think you are stretching it with the doctor episodes, both nazi germany, and the USSR both had no problem removing people from society. I think the great thing about this show, is that people with different points of view could look at the same scene differently.
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I totally agree with you. And I would have to strongly disagree Sarang01 (who should learn to use spoiler tags).
I know people that stopped watching BSG because they felt they were pushing a liberal agenda a little too much.
That's the beauty of the show, how many ways you can interpret the story.
And for the record though -the writers (much to my dismay) are very much hollywood liberals in real life. So it's very interesting that anyone would accuse BSG of pushing a conservative message. If anything, they are trying to show what liberals perceive to be the horrors of conservativism, imo.
The beauty of BSG is that they address issues that no other show could ever get away with, but they get away with it because it's a SciFi. The show makes you question your beliefs. It makes you see other points of view that you had never considered. It's a real mind . That's what I love about it.
Strang01, you need to keep in mind that the show isn't pushing any agenda. It's holding a mirror up to society, is all. It's showing the good and evil within everyone. The characters are real, they have real feelings and real reactions to things, that are sometimes shocking, stomach wrenching, or disgusting. But that's how real people are. Writers don't just write characters doing things they agree with.
[quote name='thrustbucket']I totally agree with you. And I would have to strongly disagree Sarang01 (who should learn to use spoiler tags).
I know people that stopped watching BSG because they felt they were pushing a liberal agenda a little too much.
That's the beauty of the show, how many ways you can interpret the story.
And for the record though -the writers (much to my dismay) are very much hollywood liberals in real life. So it's very interesting that anyone would accuse BSG of pushing a conservative message. If anything, they are trying to show what liberals perceive to be the horrors of conservativism, imo.
The beauty of BSG is that they address issues that no other show could ever get away with, but they get away with it because it's a SciFi. The show makes you question your beliefs. It makes you see other points of view that you had never considered. It's a real mind . That's what I love about it.
Strang01, you need to keep in mind that the show isn't pushing any agenda. It's holding a mirror up to society, is all. It's showing the good and evil within everyone. The characters are real, they have real feelings and real reactions to things, that are sometimes shocking, stomach wrenching, or disgusting. But that's how real people are. Writers don't just write characters doing things they agree with.[/QUOTE]
Well as a Vegan as well as someone who believes in Organics and natural medicine some of these Sci-Fi shows bring up fears of mine. For ST TNG for example the idea this will be completely replaced by something artificial that isn't necessarily healthy and may be worse, see replicators and their medicine. In BSG I would agree the Doctor episode is a reflection of what most of society thinks of our kind in the Western world. Rather what the medical industry has brainwashed them to believe. This is with very big help from the Pharmaceutical Industry.
[quote name='Sarang01']Well as a Vegan as well as someone who believes in Organics and natural medicine some of these Sci-Fi shows bring up fears of mine. For ST TNG for example the idea this will be completely replaced by something artificial that isn't necessarily healthy and may be worse, see replicators and their medicine. In BSG I would agree the Doctor episode is a reflection of what most of society thinks of our kind in the Western world. Rather what the medical industry has brainwashed them to believe. This is with very big help from the Pharmaceutical Industry.[/QUOTE]
I see. Interesting. Well ok then.
As someone that isn't a Vegan, and believes organic stuff is way too ing expensive for whatever marginal benefits it gives, let me just say this: What are you going to do when it's discovered that plants are sentient? I've always felt that just because we can't relate to them, doesn't mean they aren't.
Just giving you a hard time (mostly).... But really, you have to accept you are in a small minority and can't get too offended by tv shows catering to the rest of us.
Besides, I believe the ship in BSG that had all the gardens for growing stuff got destroyed, so they don't have much choice.
I mean really, if you were on one of the ships in that show, and had no garden, what are you going to live on? What will you use for medecine?
[quote name='thrustbucket']I see. Interesting. Well ok then.
As someone that isn't a Vegan, and believes organic stuff is way too ing expensive for whatever marginal benefits it gives, let me just say this: What are you going to do when it's discovered that plants are sentient? I've always felt that just because we can't relate to them, doesn't mean they aren't.
Just giving you a hard time (mostly).... But really, you have to accept you are in a small minority and can't get too offended by tv shows catering to the rest of us.
Besides, I believe the ship in BSG that had all the gardens for growing stuff got destroyed, so they don't have much choice.
I mean really, if you were on one of the ships in that show, and had no garden, what are you going to live on? What will you use for medecine?[/QUOTE]
Depends what type of Organic product. I totally understand from the point of processed product or dairy and meat but then one must understand everything that goes into creating that to begin with. Now if you're talking Organic Flour, beans and grains I would argue the extra cost is VERY low. I would say on the base level it's Organic vegetables and fruits that have the worst chance of biting you in the ass costwise. To this extent, my suggestion is to grow those as well.
In terms of the garden bit I was thinking of Trek and the replicators. I don't know if I can reasonably answer your question as medicine is idealized on those shows. Here on Earth with bias added one must consider things like Chemotherapy as a treatment to cure people of Cancer and somewhat compromise their Immune System as well. This is so Big Pharma and the hospital can have on their hands a marginally well person who will somewhat reliably come in for treatment of a sickness with Pharmaceutical drugs. Then you have Stem Cells as a way for Big Pharma to treat the big uncurables, be they Genetic or otherwise. The purpose of this is so Pharma can patent it unfathomably somehow and make money off it. This is obviously done since a naturally occuring plant from the Rainforest you can't patent and make money off of.
I would argue these Sci-Fi shows portraying medicine do it in a bright light. On the other hand I am more cynical. I respect and recognize the idea of "First do no harm." but our medical industry has forgotten that. Now to make myself clear I am NOT saying that the Physicians don't believe in that.
Seeing more Sci-Fi shows with a Green touch would be very welcome, providing a counter balance. As far as I know Voyager and Enterprise do it though I think there was one show that really focused on it though the name escapes me. Well, it does moreso than the former two.
[quote name='doubledown']Seems a little pricey to me for a 37", but that is just me. Are you SET with LCD or could you go DLP (even a DLP Slim).[/QUOTE]
I'd like to go with an LCD just because the image seems to be better on those or at least the ones I saw.
Also I've read about alot of issues on the bigger DLPs like image "smiling", color wheels being ed up and other scary things.
Although if you have a suggestion, I'd be willing to listen to it.
[quote name='guyver2077']PRICEY because its a 1080p 37 in...
if your on a budget i prob wouldnt go for it.. ppl say you need 42 in + to notice the 1080p diff..
there have been good deals lately on 32-37 in[/QUOTE]
Where?
Best I could find for a brand name TV (don't want any of these generic offbrands if I'm paying this much for one) is a 32" 720P Toshiba for $720 shipped. Which is why I kind of figured that for only $280 I might as well go from the 37 1080p especially if I can talk the people down a bit at Sam's.
I have NO issues with my 60" Sony 60A2020. I know the 50" is probably more in the Maganox price range. I got mine at ABC Warehouse WELL below Best Buy/CC.
Also, I have 1080p and I'll admit that it is nice to have, but the picture is not THAT much different in 1080i. I would look into DLP personally, more bang for your buck (if you want a bigger TV).
Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer (Dec 14)
* 1080p High Definition 16x9 2.35:1
* Other details TBC
Resident Evil / 100 minutes
* 1080p High Definition 16x9 1.85:1
* DTS-HD 5.1 (German & English)
* German subtitles
* Bonus materials include audio commentary, screentests of Milla Jovovich, production featurettes and documentaries.
Resident Evil: Apocalypse / 98 minutes (Extended)
* 1080p High Definition 16x9 2.40:1
* DTS-HD 5.1 (German & English) & Dolby Digital-Plus 5.1 (German)
* German subtitles
* Bonus materials include audio commentary, deleted scenes, production featurettes and documentaries.
[quote name='Sarang01']Am I the only one wondering why "Eureka" hasn't hit HD DVD yet?[/quote]
im more surprised The 4400 hasnt since its been around longer.
Eureka is a pretty cool series though. I'd buy it.
[quote name='propeller_head']im more surprised The 4400 hasnt since its been around longer.
Eureka is a pretty cool series though. I'd buy it.[/QUOTE]
Shit how many newer Universal shows would fit the HD DVD crowd. "Eureka" seems to be right down their alley. only old catalogs and new release movies. Instead of trying to put out so many extra movies this year with Universal's cut and paste bullshit they should've lessened it. Universal focusing on their strengths and HELPING HD DVD by proxy would be releasing "Monk", "House", "The 4400"(IF Universal), "Eureka", "The Dead Zone", "Journeyman"(show seems ok so far), etc. It amazes me Ken Graffeo doesn't see the potential here or not enough money is being paid for Universal to put their real WEIGHT behind it.
[quote name='Sarang01']Shit how many newer Universal shows would fit the HD DVD crowd. "Eureka" seems to be right down their alley. only old catalogs and new release movies. Instead of trying to put out so many extra movies this year with Universal's cut and paste bullshit they should've lessened it. Universal focusing on their strengths and HELPING HD DVD by proxy would be releasing "Monk", "House", "The 4400"(IF Universal), "Eureka", "The Dead Zone", "Journeyman"(show seems ok so far), etc. It amazes me Ken Graffeo doesn't see the potential here or not enough money is being paid for Universal to put their real WEIGHT behind it.[/quote]
How could you forget "Psych"? I'd buy that on HD DVD in a heartbeat!
I like eureka and all, but was it a big seller on the dvd side of things? I doubt it, as it had mediocre numbers for sci fi channel to begin with. In all reality, if it didn't sell on dvd, why would they put it on hd dvd.
I'm sure they'll all show up over time. Heroes by itself got 2 acquaintances to go HD DVD.
Sopranos is great on HD DVD too. very crisp vid & audio. Seems the newer seasons are coming out before the older. I can only assume that's because it's harder to master the older material.
[quote name='LinkinPrime']How could you forget "Psych"? I'd buy that on HD DVD in a heartbeat![/quote]
and Burn Notice, even though its a new series. pure awesome
I just stated getting into Eureka seeing as I watched the arathon that SciFi had on yesterday and would happily buy that on HD DVD. Also Linkin it doesnt look like xploitedcinema.com has updated their site with either Resident Evils. Hopefully soon as I'm very patiently waiting for them.
[quote name='propeller_head']and Burn Notice, even though its a new series. pure awesome[/QUOTE]
I didn't mention Burn because it's FOX.
Ryan you realize I've stopped buying most shows I'm interested in on DVD because I know they've been shot in HD or film. I KNOW they're going to double dip me so why buy the DVD's, because if enough of us it might happen? No thanks, I don't feel like getting ed with a double dip.
How about we send request letters and show we're willing and desperately want some of these shows on HD DVD but won't let them double dip us for this to happen earlier either?
Seriously most of the stuff I want on HD DVD no one is offering or in the case of "Weeds" Season 1 they're halfassing. I'm interested in some premium channel product, "Epitafios" in HD, "Dead Like Me", "Huff" and "Weeds". Past that you have the WB stuff like "Smallville" and "Supernatural". Also I want"Popular" in HD, "Angel" or "Buffy" as well if Weedon had it shot on film or HD. Now you have Universal shows like "House" and "Eureka" and maybe "Monk".
The shows I want desperately are foreign one's like "One Percent Of Anything" and "Delightful Girl Choon Hyang". Also "Cheer Dance" would be great as well.
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Ryan you realize I've stopped buying most shows I'm interested in on DVD because I know they've been shot in HD or film. I KNOW they're going to double dip me so why buy the DVD's, because if enough of us it might happen? No thanks, I don't feel like getting ed with a double dip.
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I totally agree with you, but I highly doubt the avg consumer knows this. We are posting on a message board about HD DVD's. My brother has the 360 hd dvd add on, he doesn't post on message boards of any kind. If he wanted eureka on some format, and he walks into a big box store, he would get the version available. I just don't think there is much of an audience for a show like eureka for HD DVD format on the store shelves. Burn notice and psych both had much higher ratings so there is probably a bigger potential audience for it on HD DVD.
Are sci fi shows shot in HD. I know bsg is coming out in hd dvd format, and has aired on the universal hd channel. But I have never seen any other sci fi shows in hd format on tv.
[quote name='ryanbph']I totally agree with you, but I highly doubt the avg consumer knows this. We are posting on a message board about HD DVD's. My brother has the 360 hd dvd add on, he doesn't post on message boards of any kind. If he wanted eureka on some format, and he walks into a big box store, he would get the version available. I just don't think there is much of an audience for a show like eureka for HD DVD format on the store shelves. Burn notice and psych both had much higher ratings so there is probably a bigger potential audience for it on HD DVD.
Are sci fi shows shot in HD. I know bsg is coming out in hd dvd format, and has aired on the universal hd channel. But I have never seen any other sci fi shows in hd format on tv.[/QUOTE]
Well I hear BSG is being presented in 480p on Universal HD but has been shot on 720p. Personally I'd like to know what idiot doesn't shoot these shows on 35 mm. instead. I want my shows at 4000x2000 if possible. Only if they can't afford 35 mm. film and have a choice between HD and VHS then HD. I mean even if the budget is threadbare and they might be able to do it, do it because it will pay off in the double dipping. I can't wait till 2080p is an option, then I'll be happy because film res. will be standard.
[quote name='Sarang01']I didn't mention Burn because it's FOX.[/quote]
the guy who penned the seires is a member of fuse entertainment which is on the fox lot. that doesnt mean fox owns rights to the series, it just means he (Mikkel Bondesen) wanted his own production studio to shoot it. USA ordered & greenlit the series; & that usually means they own distribution rights.
[quote name='Sarang01']Well I hear BSG is being presented in 480p on Universal HD but has been shot on 720p. Personally I'd like to know what idiot doesn't shoot these shows on 35 mm. instead. I want my shows at 4000x2000 if possible. Only if they can't afford 35 mm. film and have a choice between HD and VHS then HD. I mean even if the budget is threadbare and they might be able to do it, do it because it will pay off in the double dipping. I can't wait till 2080p is an option, then I'll be happy because film res. will be standard.[/QUOTE]
Shooting digitally and on HD has other much bigger benefits, such as cost in production. Keeping things digital from end to end saves a lot of money and time.
I disagree with you however, unless we expect screens as big as the movie theater, I think resolution is just about fine as it is. I'd rather see other advances such as higher framerate before higher resolutions. I think most people will notice 90 fps more than 2048p.
[quote name='thrustbucket']Shooting digitally and on HD has other much bigger benefits, such as cost in production. Keeping things digital from end to end saves a lot of money and time.
I disagree with you however, unless we expect screens as big as the movie theater, I think resolution is just about fine as it is. I'd rather see other advances such as higher framerate before higher resolutions. I think most people will notice 90 fps more than 2048p.[/QUOTE]
Considering I plan on getting an SED at a 100" size it matters to me. And don't mention to me projectors, they're shit picture quality wise. I believe fixed displays will have always sharper pictures though.
[quote name='Sarang01']Considering I plan on getting an SED at a 100" size it matters to me. And don't mention to me projectors, they're shit picture quality wise. I believe fixed displays will have always sharper pictures though.[/QUOTE]
I can't believe you just said that. Wow. What was the last projector you saw? At school science class? My projector throws out a sharper more vibrant image than any of my friends HD sets. That includes my uncles $7,000 70" Toshiba dlp, and my friends 70" Bravia. And my screen is only 100".
So you are essentially saying digital cinemas can't compete with the picture quality of fixed pixel set-tops?
Well I can see your logic is way out there, with comments like that, but I will just say that 1080p is more than enough resolution all the way up to 120-130". But it really depends on how close you plan to sit as well.
ing warner.. how do i go about cancelling an order? i may have to just order from amazon or fye as i do not want to wait any longer[/QUOTE]
