[quote name='mykevermin']Yes, I sure do. The link you provide doesn't prove me "wrong" on anything, because I never insisted that the PS3 was outselling the Wii, DS, or anything else.
What I was contending was that you were making a claim, based on a single blog post and a single photograph, that the PS3 wasn't selling, while the actual sales data proved otherwise. Has the sales data changed? Perhaps. Have the sales slowed? It certainly seems so, from all accounts.
I'm not quite sure what you're cheerleading here, as you have merely lucked into being correct after having come to your conclusion - you finally have evidence to support claims that you made many days ago, and now you're proud that you happen to be right. Great for you. Personally, I'd be ashamed to try and make any claim in the absence of evidence save for anecdotes, much less try to grandstand that "I was right/you were wrong" when all of your claims were made before the supporting proof was available.
Think of it this way - while I could care less for Kotaku, Nikkei is the WSJ of Japan (if I remember correctly), so they're very reliable. How would you have reacted if the article said "PS3 Flying Off the Shelves"? Would you have made a post here recanting your claims? Would you have admitted to making some harebrained predictions? Or, would you have ignored the article, justified the sales as ungeneralizable, or otherwise reasoned it away as a statistical anomaly, since it did not reaffirm your claims.
In short, my issue isn't what you claim: it's that you're knee deep in the logical fallacy of affirming the consequent, and refuse to admit it.
http://www.fallacyfiles.org/afthecon.html
If you think it upsets me that the PS3 isn't selling as quickly as Nintendo's consoles, you can continue to make posts like this; of course, you might as well accuse me of caring who died on "One Life to Live" yesterday, because I have as much of a vested interest in that, too. [/quote]
- you said the only reason Wiis are outselling is because they're making more
you -> "If you consider the ease with which the Wii is manufactured and sent out the door compared to the myriad issues plaguing PS3 manufacture (months ago, anyway - who knows what the case is now), you can only come to one conclusion."
- you said they couldnt keep them in stock
- you dismissed the photoS (not photo, if you had actually read those links you would see they were actually MANY photos from MANY stores and they were takin from Japanese sites
- now the Nikkei (yes, its the Japanese equiv to the Wall Street Journal) is reporting on how 1000s of wiis and DSes sold out in 1 hour while the PS3s are still stacked up in plain view w/ people just walking buy and ignoring them more than 5 days later.
- GET W/ THE PROGRAM BUD. YOURE LIVING IN LA-LA LAND & no matter how much you try to tip-toe around the issue; the facts were there long ago and you chose to ignore them to maintain your little fanboy fantasy.
- i said demand was waning, i provided evidence it was waning, it's the overwhelming consensus its waning. (which you tried to deny by eluding that blogs couldnt be trusted) hell even Daniel A. DeMatteo, vice chairman and chief operating officer at GameStop, said last Thu they had PS3s in stock all week at most of their 3700 stores and there was very little demand for them. they dont just make this stuff up, and they dont publish it for investors to read w/o it having relevance.
- this thread is about "Is the PS3 still a Rare item or is no one interested". so if you think discussing current industry news is anecdotal then youre just an abnegator of reality. its the purpose of the thread. are you suggesting people dont discuss whats happening for another say, 2 years? youre just angry that youve been proven wrong time & again; & youre trying to cover it w/ some pseudo-highbrow B.S. i can smell it from a mile away. lastly dont try to accuse me of a logical fallacy if you dont even understand them. aft the con only applies to instances where there is no clear link to causation. the way youre trying to explain it, any1 who prediects anytying based on anything that comes true could apply. really if they were flying off the shelves as you say then i wouldnt have pointed out the slowing sales & lack of interest BECAUSE THERE WOULDNT HAVE BEEN ANY. i explained it very simply, there was high demand among fanboys who had been anticipating it w/ a vengeance. unfortunately in the grand scheme of things, that's a very small market; hence why there is very little demand now. did you notice @ CES how Sony quoted "SHIPPED" and not "SOLD" ps3 #s? THATS RIGHT, BECAUSE THEYRE SITTING IN STORES INTEAD OF BEING PLAYED. w/ a attach rate of 1:1 most of them that were bought were also probably bought as Blu-Ray players, or to be eBayed and were never opened. Why? im guessing because of the pricetag & because theres only 1 or 2 decent games for it. and the only people willing to overlook that are (as ive said before) fanboys & the small market share of HT enthusiasts who bought it because all the other stand alone BR players suck
if youre going to word your answers like a smartass, make sure you have the brains to back it up. & K.I.S.S. (keep it simple
). partition out your points & keep out the irrelevant info. keep in mind, im the one staying on topic while youre just trying to assuage yourself w/ your C,C&C facade.
oh, & if youre so keen on fallacies might wanna avoid this in the future
http://www.fallacyfiles.org/redherrf.html
/flame off :lol: