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True. Look at The Rock. When he came out as Rocky Maivia, he was supposed to be a babyface, but the crowd hated him. Everyone would chant DIE ROCKY DIE!. That is where they came up with the cocky character he has now.

Stone Cold might not have been the star he is now iif he hadn't given the famus Austin 3:16 speech. Things happen spur of the moment that can make or break a star.
 
Interesting, I didn't know that. I remember him going by Hunter Hearst Helmsley and picking out certain girls from the audience.
 
[quote name='Trakan']Interesting, I didn't know that. I remember him going by Hunter Hearst Helmsley and picking out certain girls from the audience.[/quote]

You're talkiing to a fanboy of wrestling. I know a lot of stuff. You might call me a mark, you might cal me a smark. Up to you. You ask me anyone, And I am sure I can recite their other names and gimmicks.
 
[quote name='MorbidAngel4Life'][quote name='Trakan']Interesting, I didn't know that. I remember him going by Hunter Hearst Helmsley and picking out certain girls from the audience.[/quote]

You're talkiing to a fanboy of wrestling. I know a lot of stuff. You might call me a mark, you might cal me a smark. Up to you. You ask me anyone, And I am sure I can recite their other names and gimmicks.[/quote]

I'll simply call you a knowledgable fan :D . All of the terms like mark and smark aren't all that important to me. A fan, is a fan, is a fan...thats all that matters.

I had heard of HHH as Terra Ryzing but never actually saw any of his matches in WCW. I think Kevin Nash was named Oz and Vinnie Vegas at one time also. Undertaker was "Mean" Mark Callous. It's neat to see where these guys that are stars today started from.
 
Undertaker was also called The Master of Pain, The Punisher, and Kane the Undertaker. HHH was also Jean-Paul Levesque. Nash was also Master Blaster Steele.
 
From WWE.com:

The WWE has released Rico. We wish him the best in his future endeavors.


– According to Dave Meltzer @ wrestlingobserver.com, two more WWE releases are likely coming later this week. In total, 12 wrestlers have been given their notice and thus far, WWE has announced 10 of those.

Source: wrestlingobserver.com
 
Yeah, I know. I liked Rico too. He was hilarious! Any speculation on who the other 2 to be released will be? I'm thinkin Nunzio and Scotty 2 Hotty.
 
[quote name='Trakan']Interesting, I didn't know that. I remember him going by Hunter Hearst Helmsley and picking out certain girls from the audience.[/quote]

I think you're confusing him with Val Venis. Hunter had his ladies escort him to the ring from the back.

im hoping steiner cuz i wanna see him in tna or something. stupid wwe dont know how to use talent
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Steiner was released months ago.

Yeah, I know. I liked Rico too. He was hilarious! Any speculation on who the other 2 to be released will be? I'm thinkin Nunzio and Scotty 2 Hotty.
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I'm calling Scotty 2 Hotty and Val Venis.
 
[quote name='MorbidAngel4Life']Stiener already has been released. His contract expired and they didn't renew it. Same with Nash.[/quote]

are you sure about that...i dont think so...
they are letting his contract run out and have chosen not too use him

damn i thought i would of been aware if they had released steiner.
 
Steiner was released awhile back. Did you see some of his matchs versus HHH? Especially the horrid rematch? The guy was winded a MINUTE into the match, and he had trouble picking up HHH. Don't get me wrong, I'm a big steiner fan but he seemed to have quite a bit of trouble wrestling.

The biggest dissapointment release wise for me has been Gail Kim, she was a very good wrestler and she was one hot canadian asian. Rico is pretty dissapointing to because he had talent.

My guess is they are releasing Nunzio and Val Venis next.
 
The reason that he was horrible in the ring is because of his injuries.

And I was surprised at Gails release, as well as Jazz.

Here is a list of the people released so far, with 2 more to come:

Jazz
Rodney Mack
Chuck Palumbo
Johnny Stamboli
Nidia
Gail Kim
Rico
Billy Gunn
A-Train
Test


Wow. A great lst of people. I wish Test wasn't released. Maybe they will release all of the FBI.
 
[quote name='guyver2077']wow holy shit when was jazz and rodney mack released and stamboli???[/quote]

Yes. They made 12 cuts, and those 10 names are people that have been let go. Believe me, I'm as pissed as you at the fact that "Tha Mack" got cut. He was awesome, if not for his theme alone.
 
With this week seeing ten cuts made to the active roster of wrestlers in WWE, many are wondering, as we've mentioned 100 times, if they will be next. Well, we also reported before that two more cuts were planned, so some of those worrying will be doing so for good reason.

Apparently, the cost-cutting won't stop with the talent releases. Rumors are circulating amongst the wrestlers that WWE may stop paying for wrestler surgeries, and there is some talk that with the lightneing of the two seperate rosters in WWE, it's very possible that the brand extension could be coming to an end.

Keep an eye out for updates on the other two wrestlers who we expect to be officially released within the next few days.
 
Sorry. Rajah sucks. Too many pop ups.

WWE has updated a statement released Wednesday; they have released an additional 3 superstars. The following was issued today via WWE.com:

The WWE released Johnny Stamboli, Rodney Mack, Jazz, Gail Kim, Chuck Palumbo and Nidia from their contracts today. We wish them the best in their future endeavors.

As we reported earlier, the WWE locker room is on edge right now. The only explanation given thus far is that all of the firings were financially related.

More on these stories as information becomes available.
 
[quote name='Scorch'][quote name='guyver2077']wow holy shit when was jazz and rodney mack released and stamboli???[/quote]

Yes. They made 12 cuts, and those 10 names are people that have been let go. Believe me, I'm as pissed as you at the fact that "Tha Mack" got cut. He was awesome, if not for his theme alone.[/quote]

Rodney Mizzle was pretty cool. I just hope that Heidenreich is the next to go. He is worthless.
 
They've got talent sitting there sucking up the funds. They finally realize that the brand is starting to become crap. With Vince having (basically) no competition, he can do whatever he wants. Remember Katie Vick? Think he would've done that if Nitro was still on the air?

If they're doing this for financial reasons, look for injured people to be cut. I think the only ones on the injured roster right now are Chris Nowinski (expect him to be cut) and Mark Henry. Henry might be down in OVW training, though. Cena and Kane are out filming new movies.

The BEST possible move that I could see: Flip the script on the brand split. Make Raw the primary talent ground and make Smackdown for the developing guys. I'd watch Smackdown more often. Kick off Big Show, Booker T, all three Dudley's, Eddie, Hardcore Holly, Cena, Angle, RVD, and Undertaker to Raw, and give Smackdown Garrison Cade, Henry, Matt Hardy (Face it, when he jumped to Raw, his career died), Maven, Rosey, Hurricane, Sylvain Grenier, Tajiri, Tyson Tomko, Edge and Christian.

It's a good idea, I think. It'd give the main eventers something to fight about.. the developing "not-quite-there" stars could feel proud. Edge and Christian would headline Smackdown, sorta like the "new blood" in WCW's dying days.
 
WEll Matt has an injurie that has kept him away. But yeah, the whole Kane-Lita thing was dumb. I hope they revamp the Kane character. I hope they make him a full fledged badass and a threat to the World Title, all while being heel.
 
So, does anyone have a great big conspiracy as to why such a large number of people are being let go?

I hope Kidman is next. fuckin' useless, he is. Tho I think it actually will be Nunzio, Akio (was he let go recently too?), Scotty 2 Hotty, or Val Venis. Mark Henry's always on my list, but I think he's got something going on that they have not fired him yet; honestly, if I recall he is one of the highest paid guys on the roster (a move WWE has regretted since day one, and would have gotten out of long ago, if they could).

Good thing they kept people like Heidenreich and Christy (the diva search winner); they even hired one of the other diva search contestants. I wonder how that makes the 'dirty dozen' this week feel. jesus.

myke.
 
oh yeah, I almost forgot:

HARDCORE HOLLY!!!!!!! PLEAEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASE LET IT BE HIM!!!!!

It's more likely to be Shannon Moore though.
 
Multiple posts yet again for me: pwinsider (a miserable, virus and spyware laden site) is reporting that The Hurricane's bio and information has been taken down from WWE.com. All of the other releases have been very quickly removed from the two main roster pages, so things don't look good for him.

myke.
 
Not this again. Would you like me to list the words "why," "yes," "of," "course," "I," and "have" in five separate posts?

What with your assistant principal bullshit? Go look at the subsequent posts on this page, and tell me why you think I'm the only one who needs this valuable nugget of information.

ass.
 
Man, now Rico is released!

You know, I wouldn't blame the wrestlers for being mad at all. I love that little redhead Christy Hemme, but the fact that WWE was offering a $250,000 contract for a person with NO wrestling skill is a slap in the face to guys like Rico. I don't blame Christy for that, that is Vince's fault. Also, if there needs to be budget cuts, then Tough Enough should have never had another season. Maven is starting to look better, but the best thing that came from Tough Enough was Nidia and now she is cut! Other than on those two, Tough Enough has been IMO a waste of money that could have been used on people that put years into the business and deserve to be there.
 
This is tough, who will be the next 2? I'll guess...Garrison Cade and Bill Demott. It better not be Funaki, Smackdown #1 announcer.

And The Hurricane's bio is still on wwe.com, at least it was just a little while ago.
 
Well, if I may look on it a little differently than I had been...

At least these guys aren't getting the "creative has nothing for you" treatment that people like Chris Kanyon and many others did.

Truly, I despise the booking of TNA, but there is just a severe glut of worthwhile wrestlers now that could skyrocket TNA to national (more than regional) prominence if they (1) killed Dutch Mantel and Jeff Jarrett and (2) booked for a national, and not a southern, audience (but that's just a corollary of (1). Think of the money they could save if they hired wrestlers instead of Hall and Nash.

I'd kill to see most of these guys get a real chance. God only knows the WWE never offered it.

Billy Gunn can stay home, tho.

myke.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']
Billy Gunn can stay home, tho.

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I agree with that. As a wrestler, even he had to realize his "ass" could only get him so over. I honestly think if it wasn't for the Billy and Chuck angle, he would have been gone a long time ago. The man just couldn't stay healthy.
 
man billy and chick were my favorite tag team...i loved that angle. I give them credit for doing it as well. Hardcore is a big name in smackdown so i hope its not him. shannon moore is good but it might be him. bill demot and nowinsky work of scenes so i doubt it will be them.
 
WOW... Rico stuns me... the angle with him and Charlie Haas was taking off I thought, until Rico got hurt. Maybe Goldust can return now to be WWE's official homo again. He can help Booker T defeat JBL!

Anyway, TNA has to be drooling over all these new available mid-card WWE wrestlers. If there's two more cuts, look for it to be Nunzio and Chris Nowinski.

Hopefully this does signal the end of the roster split, it only makes sense since Vinnie Mac has basically removed the bottom portion of his roster.

Honestly, I like all these cuts. Basically Vince cut a bunch of crap that couldn't draw for shit. True, I liked Gail Kim, Rico and Chuck Palumbo, but they were all far from being "over" with the fans. Although, I really think that Rico could've got somewhere had they brought him back, but too late now.
The other thing this does, is puts pressure on a lot of the guys to perform better or risk getting the axe themselves. Perhaps the rosters will merge and the WWE will improve now.
 
but rico did come back...wasnt he like on smackdown 2 weeks ago.

and nowinsky is like a political person for them...he does alot behind stage so i dunno about him.
 
I don't know, I don't watch that show too much. Either way, Vince should've given him more time, if he really wants to clear some dead weight why not fire all 3 dudleys? The words useless piles of shit never applied so accurately to a wrestling faction.
 
[quote name='Doylerulez']This is tough, who will be the next 2? I'll guess...Garrison Cade and Bill Demott. It better not be Funaki, Smackdown #1 announcer.

And The Hurricane's bio is still on wwe.com, at least it was just a little while ago.[/quote]

Dude.. Everyone's bio is still on WWE.com. Crash Holly's is still on WWE.com and he died a year ago.

http://smackdown.wwe.com/superstars/crash/index.html
 
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