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[quote name='GizmoGC']IIRC, they are only not releasing them due to 'respect' for Spielberg. He does not own his movies. If Paramount owns them, they have ever right to release them, and they should.[/QUOTE]

From Paramount's press release:

Paramount Home Entertainment will issue new releases day and date as well as catalog titles exclusively on HD DVD. Today's announcement does not include films directed by Steven Spielberg as his films are not exclusive to either format.
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I'm sure that "respect" was enough that $150 million couldn't buy Spielberg off. :lol:

You post often enough that you think you'd be right about something at least once (recall that old adage about monkeys, typewriters, and the collected works of Shakespeare?). I can sense you being right about something just on the horizon, ol' chap. Don't give up hope now!
 
[quote name='GizmoGC']IIRC, they are only not releasing them due to 'respect' for Spielberg. He does not own his movies. If Paramount owns them, they have ever right to release them, and they should.[/QUOTE]

Actually Spielberg does have the call on his Dreamworks movies but I haven't heard anything about the Universal movies being under his control.

I wish they would just tell him to go fuck himself and release them anyways.
 
[quote name='Sporadic']Actually Spielberg does have the call on his Dreamworks movies but I haven't heard anything about the Universal movies being under his control.

I wish they would just tell him to go fuck himself and release them anyways.[/QUOTE]

So if Universal wanted, they could release Jaws, ET, BTTF, etc, correct?
 
[quote name='GizmoGC']So if Universal wanted, they could release Jaws, ET, BTTF, etc, correct?[/QUOTE]

As far as I know, if they didn't mind burning a bridge, yeah but then again it is possible I've heard wrong.
 
[quote name='Sporadic']As far as I know, if they didn't mind burning a bridge, yeah but then again it is possible I've heard wrong.[/quote]
Yeah..... I can't see Universal not releasing them, unless they just don't care enough about the Format war, or if Steven speilberg somehow bought all of his movies back.....

And Myke, Is that adrool for BR Boondock Saints? If so, I agree. Your right it's a semi-cult movie but so are a lot of other movies, such as the halloween movies that Starz just released, and A Scanner Darkly, etc. Hell, I believe it Fox only made 10,000 all of them would sell.

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/tech/2007/10/06/data.doctor.saturday.cnn

A Video to make Gizmo go crazy. :)

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=919997

The rock and Con-Air coming Jan 8th.

That day will be mine!
 
[quote name='mykevermin']From Paramount's press release:



I'm sure that "respect" was enough that $150 million couldn't buy Spielberg off. :lol:

You post often enough that you think you'd be right about something at least once (recall that old adage about monkeys, typewriters, and the collected works of Shakespeare?). I can sense you being right about something just on the horizon, ol' chap. Don't give up hope now![/QUOTE]

So, correct me if I am wrong here.

If Universal or Paramount want to release any of his movies, they can. He does not own his movies. Universal and Paramount simply don't want to piss him off by doing so, correct? Paramount COULD release a movie of his in BOTH formats, yet still retain being exclusive to HD DVD?

So at any time, if either studio wants, they can release E.T., Jaws, BTTF, J. Park etc.

From what Ive gathered on several forums, this is correct.
 
[quote name='GizmoGC']So, correct me if I am wrong here.

If Universal or Paramount want to release any of his movies, they can. He does not own his movies. Universal and Paramount simply don't want to piss him off by doing so, correct? Paramount COULD release a movie of his in BOTH formats, yet still retain being exclusive to HD DVD?

So at any time, if either studio wants, they can release E.T., Jaws, BTTF, J. Park etc.

From what Ive gathered on several forums, this is correct.[/QUOTE]

I think you're dead wrong in assuming that a company would rather retain good graces with Spielberg than make profit.

Moreover: http://www.hddvdprg.com/eng/list.html

I think you'll see something similar to this in the near future, given that it already happened once this year:

Apology for our Contents List

The inclusion in the January 29 update of our "Coming Soon List" of three Steven Spielberg classics was an error on our part. The HD DVD Promotion Group expresses sincere apologies to Steven Spielberg, Universal Studios Home Entertainment and HD DVD fans for this mistake. We will endeavor to prevent any similar mistake and to provide accurate information.
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Two errors in one year? If they could release them, they would have. This holiday season is make or break for HD DVD. If they don't do well this christmas, they're done for; as a result, if they could put out blockbusters from Spielberg, you bet your ass they would.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']I think you're dead wrong in assuming that a company would rather retain good graces with Spielberg than make profit.
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And I think you're dead wrong in assuming that taking the time to properly master an old catalog like these will still allow for a profit from the
 
[quote name='H.Cornerstone']What's Spielberg movie is BTTF?[/quote]

Back to the Future. He didn't direct (Robert Zimekis did), but it's an Amblin production.
 
[quote name='H.Cornerstone']What's Spielberg movie is BTTF?[/QUOTE]

Back to the Future. I didn't know he had anything to do with it. I always associate it with Robert Zemeckis.

geko, those are valid points all around (though it's asinine, just to overdo the grammar part). However, developing a backcatalog is an important part of both formats' strategies. Without a doubt, D&D movies sell; the bestseller list gizmo listed was all D&D, I think (save for Underworld, and I don't know what "Next" is). But each format needs to look more flushed out than the other, and bringing in catalog titles is crucial to that. Spielberg's films would go a far long way better than the vast majority of the catalog titles that are out there at the moment. Perhaps you're right to think they would not want to piss him off, but the power he wields is quite real in any event, no matter the contractual reality.

Speaking of D&D releases, a 2-disc BR version of Superbad is coming on 12/4:

Sony Pictures Home Entertainment has announced the extras which will be included with the upcoming Blu-ray release of 'Superbad', due on store shelves December 4th. Sony has confirmed that this will be a two disc release, which gives us the sneaking suspicion that all the extras will be in stunning 1080p high definition. Also, the Blu-ray will feature the "unrated" cut of the film which was too raunchy for theatrical release.

* Pineapple Express: Exclusive First Look
* Deleted and Extended Scenes
* Gag Reel
* Line-O-Rama
* Cop Car Confessions – A Ride Along with Clark County's Finest
* Making-of Superbad
* Original Table Read 2002 – Seth Rogen reads for the part of “Seth”
* Dancing Title Sequence
* Vag-tastic Voyage
* Cast Audition Footage
* Press Junket Meltdown
* The Music of Superbad
* "Everybody Hates Michael Cera" – The Unfortunate True Story
* On-Set Diaries
* "Snakes on Jonah" Featurette
* Michael's Voicemails from Jonah
* TV Safe - Watch Jonah Hill try to record alternate "safe" lines appropriate for television
* Table Reads
* Optional audio commentaries by Judd Apatow, Seth Rogren, Greg Mottola, Evan Goldberg, Jonah Hill, Michael Cera and Christopher Mintz-Plasse

And exclusive to the Blu-ray release will be the "Superbad Supermeter" which will keep tally of all the lewd and crude lingo in the film.
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[quote name='mykevermin']it's asinine, just to overdo the grammar part.[/quote] Whoops, spellchecker should have cought that one. :oops:

[quote name='mykevermin']However, developing a backcatalog is an important part of both formats' strategies.[/quote] Oh, I agree completely. I just don't think getting a few great catalogs is worth souring a working relationship with the top earning director of all time. They should just pony up the cash like Sony (presumably) did :)

[quote name='mykevermin']Without a doubt, D&D movies sell; the bestseller list gizmo listed was all D&D, I think (save for Underworld, and I don't know what "Next" is).[/quote] Next is a D&D of a Nicholas Cage vehicle that made a whopping $18M at the boxoffice.

But to put those sales rankings into perspective, that D&D steamer and blockbuster catalog sold a whopping ~2300-2500 copies each. The only reason they're even on the list is because volumes are so low, they're the cream of the shit.

[quote name='mykevermin']But each format needs to look more flushed out than the other, and bringing in catalog titles is crucial to that. Spielberg's films would go a far long way better than the vast majority of the catalog titles that are out there at the moment. Perhaps you're right to think they would not want to piss him off, but the power he wields is quite real in any event, no matter the contractual reality.[/quote] His films would definitely add cachet to the catalog, there's no question about that. I just don't know if the reward is worth the risk at the moment. So you're right, he does hold the power. Doesn't matter if there's any legal standing to it, just the practical realities of the game.

[quote name='mykevermin'] Speaking of D&D releases, a 2-disc BR version of Superbad is coming on 12/4:[/quote] Nice! I've heard nothing but good things about it, and I'm sure it'll do (relatively) well. Being a comedy, I'd predict ~20k sales release week if it came out tomorrow. In the middle of the holiday season, probably closer to 25k.
 
I hope it's all right. I thought Knocked Up was *cute*, but not all that funny. Superbad looked amazing from the commercials, though, and Michael Cera's dry-as-sand delivery is perfect.

Let me also point out that, contrary to the few reviews out there at the moment, I was pretty let down by the PQ of Evil Dead II. Dracula was very, very good, IMO, and Dawn of the Dead as vibrant as 1970's colors could be ("vibrant" doesn't work when all the hues in the world are brown and olive :lol:). Evil Dead II was allright, I suppose, but I'm glad the film was only $18 or so. Haven't had a chance to check out Halloween yet, though I'm looking forward to it.

The holiday season is going to be brutal. Edward Scissorhands, The Shining, A Clockwork Orange, and Spiderman coming, all just for the rest of October. Christ I'm gonna be broke.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']However, developing a backcatalog is an important part of both formats' strategies. Without a doubt, D&D movies sell; the bestseller list gizmo listed was all D&D, I think (save for Underworld, and I don't know what "Next" is). But each format needs to look more flushed out than the other, and bringing in catalog titles is crucial to that. Spielberg's films would go a far long way better than the vast majority of the catalog titles that are out there at the moment. Perhaps you're right to think they would not want to piss him off, but the power he wields is quite real in any event, no matter the contractual reality.[/QUOTE]

Next was a D&D release from Paramount.

Universal already has one of the biggest backcatalogs out there. While it would be nice to have Spielberg's movies, it's not a necessity at this point or at least a big enough to burn a bridge for.

Hell, we already have Hitchcock movies on the way and I would say those are way more important than any of Spielberg's films in terms of quality.

[quote name='mykevermin']The holiday season is going to be brutal. Edward Scissorhands, The Shining, A Clockwork Orange, and Spiderman coming, all just for the rest of October. Christ I'm gonna be broke.[/QUOTE]

Same here, thankfully I already paid for most of the stuff I want but I still have to get the money for Motorhead, Carlito's Way, Queen, The Bourne Collection, Tremors and The Omega Man.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']I'll wait for this press release, as it is Blu-Ray.com reporting this mistake, but let's be real. There's a reason that Steven Spielberg's movies were excluded from the Paramount/Dreamworks sell-out, and there's a reason that Close Encounters is BR-exclusive. At this point, all signs point to "sorry to get your hopes up, HD DVD folks...enjoy Shrek the Third and Evan Almighty!"

:lol:[/QUOTE]

So Spielburg was lying when he or a spokesman said his films would be format neutral?
 
[quote name='mykevermin']What Hitchcock films are making their way to HD?[/QUOTE]

Psycho is going to be coming soon from Universal and Warner is working on a 2009 release for North by Northwest

Not to mention the fact that Universal owns a bit of his catalog (Rear Window, The Birds, Vertigo, Marnie)
 
[quote name='mykevermin']Dunno. Find me the quote. The only Spielberg film coming out right now is Close Encounters.[/QUOTE]

I'll try. If this film ends up BR exclusive I hope it is cracked in a second as a middle finger to him. I won't download but a fuck you going that way in that circumstance would be great.
 
[quote name='Sarang01']I'll try. If this film ends up BR exclusive I hope it is cracked in a second as a middle finger to him. I won't download but a fuck you going that way in that circumstance would be great.[/QUOTE]

Wow. That's bitter, dude. Why don't you do what the HD kids elsewhere are doing: getting excited and all "YEAH BLU BOIS IN YA FACE!!!" after the announcement, followed up with a demure "well his films aren't that important anyway" after the realization that his films aren't coming to HD DVD yet, if at all.

Psycho is a classic, but North By Northwest and Vertigo (even with godawful Jimmie Stewart) are absolute CLASSICS. :drool: To be fair, though, so many of his programs can be found in $5-10 sets that I'd argue Hitchcock is nowhere near as important as Spielberg's stuff. Indiana Jones trumps them all in popularity, and I say that as a Hitchcock fan.

Now I want to watch "The Lady Vanishes." I don't have it. Crap.

EDIT: NXNW? Warner? Sweet. I can live without Psycho (though what little I know about Cinematography I learned by watching Psycho), but NXNW on HD DVD would be very hard to pass up.
 
So Geko, you think that 300 was an anomaly and we will never see week 1 sales like that for a LONG time?

And never knew Speilberg had anything to do with Back to the Future. Either way, interesting intrepertation on that one. But didn't Paramount sort of burn bridges with him on the Transformers thing? He was a producer on it...
 
[quote name='mykevermin']I hope it's all right. I thought Knocked Up was *cute*, but not all that funny. Superbad looked amazing from the commercials, though, and Michael Cera's dry-as-sand delivery is perfect.

Let me also point out that, contrary to the few reviews out there at the moment, I was pretty let down by the PQ of Evil Dead II. Dracula was very, very good, IMO, and Dawn of the Dead as vibrant as 1970's colors could be ("vibrant" doesn't work when all the hues in the world are brown and olive :lol:). Evil Dead II was allright, I suppose, but I'm glad the film was only $18 or so. Haven't had a chance to check out Halloween yet, though I'm looking forward to it.

The holiday season is going to be brutal. Edward Scissorhands, The Shining, A Clockwork Orange, and Spiderman coming, all just for the rest of October. Christ I'm gonna be broke.[/QUOTE]

Superbad was really really good IMO. Thanks to whoever posted the stats on the set as I will be picking that one up at release.
 
http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=570

Free Record Shop Goes Blu-ray

Posted October 8, 2007 by Josh

Blu-ray Movies Free Record Shop, the Netherlands's largest home entertainment retailer, has announced that they have officially endorsed Blu-ray as the successor to DVD. Since Blu-ray has launched in the Netherlands, it has outsold HD DVD on an average of 4-to-1, showing business owners that the buying public is demanding high definition content, and they want that content on Blu-ray.
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THE DUTCH CHOOSE BLU-RAY! WAR IS OVER!

J/K, but more proof Europe = Sonyland.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']I hope it's all right. I thought Knocked Up was *cute*, but not all that funny. Superbad looked amazing from the commercials, though, and Michael Cera's dry-as-sand delivery is perfect.

Let me also point out that, contrary to the few reviews out there at the moment, I was pretty let down by the PQ of Evil Dead II. Dracula was very, very good, IMO, and Dawn of the Dead as vibrant as 1970's colors could be ("vibrant" doesn't work when all the hues in the world are brown and olive :lol:). Evil Dead II was allright, I suppose, but I'm glad the film was only $18 or so. Haven't had a chance to check out Halloween yet, though I'm looking forward to it.

The holiday season is going to be brutal. Edward Scissorhands, The Shining, A Clockwork Orange, and Spiderman coming, all just for the rest of October. Christ I'm gonna be broke.[/QUOTE]

Superbad was WAY funnier then Knocked Up or 40YO Virgin by a landslide. The Penis drawings...my god. It is a MUST BUY for me.

Did you buy Day of the Dead? The transfer is much nicer then Dawns. Halloween is by FAR the best...Evil Dead II I have yet to watch (Few weeks maybe). I've never seen Bram's Dracula before...might have to rent it.
 
[quote name='GizmoGC']Superbad was WAY funnier then Knocked Up or 40YO Virgin by a landslide. The Penis drawings...my god. It is a MUST BUY for me.

Did you buy Day of the Dead? The transfer is much nicer then Dawns. Halloween is by FAR the best...Evil Dead II I have yet to watch (Few weeks maybe). I've never seen Bram's Dracula before...might have to rent it.[/quote]

Penis Drawings in hi-def? interesting.... ;)
 
One of the big reasons for the Spielberg caveat in the Paramount/Dreamworks agreement?

Indy 4 and the hope for more Spielberg films in the future.

Studios want to keep well-known directors on board for future films, so they have to be in their good graces. Why? Big names behind the camera can bring in big names in front of the camera, which can attact audiences, meaning more money at the box office. Like I've said before, $150M is only a drop in the bucket compared to what the studios make at the box office. So obviously, studios would rather maintain a good working relationship with a director and not release films without their consent than to just break ties and put the movies out there for the sake of selling films.
 
[quote name='H.Cornerstone']THE DUTCH CHOOSE BLU-RAY! WAR IS OVER!

J/K, but more proof Europe = Sonyland.[/QUOTE]

Not after BC is wiped out from future iterations of the PS3. They better get their act together.
 
[quote name='orimental']Not after BC is wiped out from future iterations of the PS3. They better get their act together.[/quote]
Ahh, with Singstar, Motorstorm, Gran Turismo, and Buzz, I think Sony is fine without BC after these games come out.

EDIT: anyways, I Am not getting into a PS3 argument in the Format War thread. :)

BTW< I am really shocked Sony is including that many extras on a release, maybe they realize they need to get their act together, or maybe they are hoping this is a big movie so they better include lots of extras? OR is it because it's not a catalog release? I wish I knew...
 
[quote name='orimental']Not after BC is wiped out from future iterations of the PS3. They better get their act together.[/QUOTE]

I have only used the BC once and that was for Persona 3. I care more about DVD upconversion than BC. My PS2 works just fine if another PS2 game comes out I want to play (and atm I can't even think of one).
 
I like that the Sony BD releases are starting to have special icons appear when played on the PS3. Like games.

Hope more studios follow suit.
Just a nice easter egg.
 
It's just a shame that BC has become nothing more than an afterthought to them since it's such a big part of their core philosophy. But like H said, I'm just going to drop it and leave it for the PS3 forum.
 
I sort of asked this question before, but is it not a required spec for BR discs to have bookmarking? Someone said a few of the newer discs have this feature, but I haven't come across any yet. Do all BR players support it or does your player have to have this functionality out of the box?
 
[quote name='H.Cornerstone']So Geko, you think that 300 was an anomaly and we will never see week 1 sales like that for a LONG time?[/quote]
300 was definitely an anomaly, but I think we'll see week 1 sales like that for Transformers, Spiderman 3 (counting both SKUs), and POTC 3. Don't know where you got that impression from me. Was it because I said Superbad would only do 25k? That's because it's a comedy. A D&D action film can sell from 1-3% what the DVD does, but a comedy struggles to hit half a percent. Knocked Up did rather well on DVD, but only sold 0.4% as many copies on HD DVD (still took the week EASILY, but only sold ~14,000 copies). Superbad will do slightly better, both because it's (supposedly) a better movie and because of the larger Blu-Ray installed base. But I seriously doubt it will hit 1%.
 
[quote name='SteveMcQ']I sort of asked this question before, but is it not a required spec for BR discs to have bookmarking? Someone said a few of the newer discs have this feature, but I haven't come across any yet. Do all BR players support it or does your player have to have this functionality out of the box?[/quote]

All Blu-Ray and HD DVD players are required to support bookmarking, but it's up to the studio whether to include it on a particular title. Most, but not all, HD DVD titles have it, and I imagine the situation is the same for Blu-Ray (but don't know for sure because I don't have any).
 
[quote name='GizmoGC']Superbad was WAY funnier then Knocked Up or 40YO Virgin by a landslide. The Penis drawings...my god. It is a MUST BUY for me.

Did you buy Day of the Dead? The transfer is much nicer then Dawns. Halloween is by FAR the best...Evil Dead II I have yet to watch (Few weeks maybe). I've never seen Bram's Dracula before...might have to rent it.[/QUOTE]

Nah. I never did like Day of the Dead, so I passed on that one. Dracula looks fantastic, IMO...but it is Coppola, and he is using Bram Stoker's book far more literally than anyone before him. It's more of a gothic drama/romance/suspense than "horror" (though there are elements of that). It's about as close as "arthouse" and "horror" genres will ever come, IMO.

[quote name='dallow']I like that the Sony BD releases are starting to have special icons appear when played on the PS3. Like games.[/QUOTE]

It was neat, but not worth mentioning. How much time do you spend looking at that screen?
 
[quote name='mykevermin']It was neat, but not worth mentioning. How much time do you spend looking at that screen?[/quote]A couple seconds.

I think it's worth a mention as sometimes I forget what disc I have inside the PS3 and it shows me what's in there without having to eject the disc.
 
My Onkyo TX-NR905 came last week. Got it set up yesterday, and WOW!!!!

Just going through some demo material at the moment--so far some of the videos from HD DVE, plus the Parliament scene from V for Vendetta in TrueHD.

Suffice it to say, I'm QUITE impressed. :D
 
[quote name='geko29']300 was definitely an anomaly, but I think we'll see week 1 sales like that for Transformers, Spiderman 3 (counting both SKUs), and POTC 3. Don't know where you got that impression from me. Was it because I said Superbad would only do 25k? That's because it's a comedy. A D&D action film can sell from 1-3% what the DVD does, but a comedy struggles to hit half a percent. Knocked Up did rather well on DVD, but only sold 0.4% as many copies on HD DVD (still took the week EASILY, but only sold ~14,000 copies). Superbad will do slightly better, both because it's (supposedly) a better movie and because of the larger Blu-Ray installed base. But I seriously doubt it will hit 1%.[/quote]

Yeah, that and you just always seem doom and gloom when it comes to Hi-def sales being really low.... It will be interesting to see if Transformers sells more htan 95,000 in one week. I think it will just because hd-dvd owners will want to support Paramount for going exclusive. BUt I really don't want to talk about that since I am still upset about that whole deal. ;)
 
I really doubt they are going to buy transformers to support Paramount. Maybe some on this boards and other boards will, but they are such a small fragment of the population. Transformers is going to sell a ton of copies because it did over 300 million in the states and has a combined worldwide gross of something like 700 million.
 
Quite true. People who read this particular board will probably account for 7 disc sales, while putting together all the kids at AVS, HDD, and whatever others are out there *may* account for 500-1000 of the sales.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']I think Transformers will be #1, but I can't see it breaking 40,000 in sales.[/quote] Why is that? We know 300 HD DVD sold close to 90k on release week. What makes you think that, 5 months later, Transformers won't even come close to half of that? It did 50% better at the box office, has more fun explosions and stuff, and is PG-13 vs. 300s R rating.

I think you're WAY off here.
 
[quote name='geko29']Why is that? We know 300 HD DVD sold close to 90k on release week. What makes you think that, 5 months later, Transformers won't even come close to half of that? It did 50% better at the box office, has more fun explosions and stuff, and is PG-13 vs. 300s R rating.

I think you're WAY off here.[/quote]

Myke's viewing the world through Blu-tinted glasses don't forget ;)
 
[quote name='geko29']Why is that? We know 300 HD DVD sold close to 90k on release week. What makes you think that, 5 months later, Transformers won't even come close to half of that? It did 50% better at the box office, has more fun explosions and stuff, and is PG-13 vs. 300s R rating.

I think you're WAY off here.[/QUOTE]

40K in sales would mean that 10% of all HD DVD owners would buy a copy. That's a pretty high estimate, IMO.

On second glance, you mean that 300 sold 90K strictly on HD DVD, right? Hmm. I could be off on Transformers, but I genuinely doubt you'll see it come close to 90K in sales.

I wonder what the overall sales numbers for 300 look like now. 250K in 1 week is amazing for hidef video, and above and beyond that, it has some staying power in terms of sales numbers.

[quote name='benjamouth']Myke's viewing the world through Blu-tinted glasses don't forget ;)[/QUOTE]

...just like 80% of yer motherland, lad. ;)
 
[quote name='mykevermin']
...just like 80% of yer motherland, lad. ;)[/quote]

Really, are you saying 80% of people in the UK have Blu-Ray players?
Damn, thats not bad.

The joke I was going to make is that if Transformers HD-DVD sells more than 40'000 copies, you have to buy the HD-DVD add-on for your 360 ;)
 
The HD exclusives for Pan's Labynith have been announced.

Exclusive HD extras are:
- Enhanced Visual Commentary Picture In Picture (HD DVD and Blu-ray)
- Picture in Picture
- Linkouts (HD DVD only)
- Synchronized Storyboard and Art Gallery (HD DVD only)

Web Enabled Features (currently HD DVD only)
- New Line Portal
- Scene Shuffle and Share
- Polling
- Highlights
- Trivia

Glad to see they are doing the same as their parent company and releasing extra goodies on HD-DVD.
 
Useless extras, but yeah, it's nice.

I think it'd be cool if they sold two versions of every movie, a cheaper bare bones one, and one with extras.

Bare bones for me.
 
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