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[quote name='Sporadic'];)[/QUOTE]

'long as you aren't taking me seriously all the time. Cripes, kid, ya nearly gave an old man a heart attack.

A 50GB, dual-layer heart attack.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']'long as you aren't taking me seriously all the time. Cripes, kid, ya nearly gave an old man a heart attack.

A 50GB, dual-layer heart attack.[/QUOTE]

:lol: Oh I loves ya mykevermin.

How could I ever stay mad at you even if do you support a format fueled on puppy blood?
 
All this talk on storage...what the hell do you guys have that you need several 50GB Blu-Ray discs? I have a modded Xbox with a 120GB drive that I usually dump all my stuff onto (TV Shows, Movies etc.) but I would have no use for a 50GB disc at all. You guys must have alot of porn :lol:
 
[quote name='H.Cornerstone']http://www.videobusiness.com/index.asp?layout=article&articleid=CA6467868

HD-DVD has 60% of the market with players... if you don't count the PS3. Kind of throws Gizmo's attachment rate theory off. :)[/QUOTE]

We've already discussed that article. They are also not adding in the Xbox 360 add-ons which are clearly being used to Watch HD DVDs and should be counted in the total...which would add another 250k or so before the price drop.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']Yep. You can't buy marketing like this. Take a look at pollywhatever from earlier in the thread (perhaps just a page or so back); they state outright that their decision to buy HD DVD is based, in part, off of wanting to do the opposite of what "Sony fanboys" do. That kind of mindless brand allegiance is absurd unless it is bought. Since it is not bought...
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First off dickhead, I gave FOUR completely valid reasons why I went with HD DVD. YOU just chose to focus on the last one. In case you missed it here's the other 3 again...

1. Price - lower cost of entry
2. Preference - I said flat out that there are several Universal movies that are on my must have list if I have to choose sides. Pitch Black, Serenity & the Bourne trilogy to name a few.
3. Extra features - 300, and I think Batman Begins being examples here.

And while the last reason I gave was mostly tongue-in-cheek, you demonstrate the point perfectly. I state my own reasons as to why I chose HD DVD, answering a question raised by another poster, and you berate and belittle me for it. Way to go. There may be fanatics on both sides, but IMHO the Sony guys are way more annoying with their "mindless brand allegiance." Seriously, I came across so much of the same when I was doing research into both formats. It's as if you guys have your lives on the line in this format war and NEED to bash others. Get a fucking life.

And lastly, if anyone is the "soldier" in this format war, I'm sure we could compare how many times you've posted in this thread to how many times I have and we'd have the answer clear as day.

Now piss off.

*EDIT: Maybe that should read "THREE completely valid reasons" or something. You get the point.
 
[quote name='Sporadic']You do have to buy one if you wish to partake in any movies created by Sony or Sony controlled studios. (You can bring up Weinstein or Universal but they aren't owned by Toshiba or have anything invested in the format they choose to exclusively support)

Which is where we are at now.

Sony isn't here to give you a choice, they are only here for the sweet, sweet money they would receive for creating/licensing/controlling the dominate format.

What we are seeing is Sony basically throwing a hissy-fit because they couldn't strongarm the DVD Forum into choosing their format. They tried, lord knows they tried; so much that Warner filed a complaint with the SEC back in 2002.

Sony thought they had the perfect plan. They own 3 major movie studios, thought they had the perfect Trojan horse for players with the PS3 (even though 40% of owners don't even know they have Blu-Ray players) and they were going to be damned if they were going to let the DVD Forum rain on their parade.[/QUOTE]

Nowhere in that post of yours do I see any indication of consumers being forced by Sony into a format.

[quote name='Sporadic']I'd rather see a company with no movie studios and the DVD Forum control a format than a company that owns a vast number of movie studios, who thinks they know what's best for everybody and has a checkered past with power.[/QUOTE]

I'd rather let consumers choose what format they want, which is what is happening right now. I may be a minority in this, but I would hate to have a board of elites choose what I should spend my money on.

[quote name='Sporadic']If it was up to Sony, the consumers nor "a board of elites" would have any choice, only Sony would have any say. [/QUOTE]

Of course, I would've thought this was pretty obvious. Any company, given the chance, would want a monopoly on their respective markets. I'm surprised that you think this is exclusive to one company.

[quote name='Sporadic']I don't own a PS3 or any Blu-Ray movies Captain.

I've made my choice and I'll ride it out until combo players become very cheap because in my option no format is going to die, combos are just going to become the standard.[/QUOTE]

How is that possible? I thought we were all being forced into blu-ray by sony?
 
[quote name='Sporadic']No but there is a company that's on the path of taking it all and has a horrible past with making good decision when they are on top (Sony) instead of a company that is kind of just there making hardware (Toshiba)[/QUOTE]

Just to let you know:

HD-DVD =/= Toshiba
Blu-ray =/= Sony
 
[quote name='GizmoGC']All this talk on storage...what the hell do you guys have that you need several 50GB Blu-Ray discs? I have a modded Xbox with a 120GB drive that I usually dump all my stuff onto (TV Shows, Movies etc.) but I would have no use for a 50GB disc at all. You guys must have alot of porn :lol:[/QUOTE]

Yea, who needs 50GB of space, that is too much. And anything more than 640K Ram is too much too (according to Bill Gates).
 
[quote name='polly']angryangryangry[/QUOTE]

:lol: *YOU* brought it up first, puddin'. As for me and my posts, had you read them you wouldn't find me saying "HD PQ suxorz!" or anything silly like that. One doesn't need to be an illogical tool to participate in the format wars; that's a lesson you'd do well to realize.

Also, if you're going to go the "It was said tongue in cheek when I said Sony fanboys are annoying" route, you really do damage to your claim when, a few sentences later, you *yet again* have to make the claim of how annoying "fanboys" are. You want to have it both ways - to say things tongue in cheek and seriously at the same time. I do not need to point out how that can't be the case. But I will: it simply can't be the case.
 
[quote name='dpatel']Yea, who needs 50GB of space, that is too much. And anything more than 640K Ram is too much too (according to Bill Gates).[/quote]
Probably the most frequently misattributed quote of all time. I've never seen a cite, and I bet you can't find one. :) In the mean time, here are some things Bill DID say about 640k of memory:

[quote name='Bloomberg Business News, 19 January 1996']I've said some stupid things and some wrong things, but not that. No one involved in computers would ever say that a certain amount of memory is enough for all time... I keep bumping into that silly quotation attributed to me that says 640K of memory is enough. There's never a citation; the quotation just floats like a rumor, repeated again and again.[/quote]

[quote name='US News and World Report, 20 August 2001']Do you realize the pain the industry went through while the IBM PC was limited to 640K? The machine was going to be 512K at one point, and we kept pushing it up. I never said that statement — I said the opposite of that.[/quote]

[quote name='1989 speech on the history of the computer industry']I have to say that in 1981, making those decisions, I felt like I was providing enough freedom for 10 years. That is, a move from 64k to 640k felt like something that would last a great deal of time. Well, it didn't - it took about only 6 years before people started to see that as a real problem.[/quote]

[quote name='Interview with the Smithsonian Institute, 1993']I laid out memory so the bottom 640K was general purpose RAM and the upper 384 I reserved for video and ROM, and things like that. That is why they talk about the 640K limit. It is actually a limit, not of the software, in any way, shape, or form, it is the limit of the microprocessor. That thing generates addresses, 20-bit addresses, that only can address a megabyte of memory. And, therefore, all the applications are tied to that limit. It was ten times what we had before. But to my surprise, we ran out of that address base for applications within—oh five or six years people were complaining.[/quote]

Enough of my ranting, back to the topic at hand.....
 
[quote name='GizmoGC']All this talk on storage...what the hell do you guys have that you need several 50GB Blu-Ray discs? I have a modded Xbox with a 120GB drive that I usually dump all my stuff onto (TV Shows, Movies etc.) but I would have no use for a 50GB disc at all. You guys must have alot of porn :lol:[/QUOTE]
start downloading HD DVD and Blu Ray rips and 50GB will be nothing.
 
[quote name='GizmoGC']All this talk on storage...what the hell do you guys have that you need several 50GB Blu-Ray discs? I have a modded Xbox with a 120GB drive that I usually dump all my stuff onto (TV Shows, Movies etc.) but I would have no use for a 50GB disc at all. You guys must have alot of porn :lol:[/quote]Yeah, I used to say all I needed was a 100MB Zip drive.
Then I said all I needed were 650MB CDRs.
Then I said all I needed were 9GB DVDrs.
 
[quote name='62t']start downloading HD DVD and Blu Ray rips and 50GB will be nothing.[/QUOTE]

I suppose so. I'll stick to downloading other things instead :)
 
I'm PISSED that Chronicles of Riddick is only on HD DVD and not Blu Ray. WTF. Then I here certain studios have exclusive deals with either format which futher PISSES me off. I am not buying a fucking add-on unit for my 360 JUST to play one HD DVD.

Blu-Ray and the PS3 > HD DVD and the 360...
 
[quote name='dpatel']Nowhere in that post of yours do I see any indication of consumers being forced by Sony into a format.[/QUOTE]

The "40% of people who own a PS3 don't know they also have a Blu-Ray player" didn't throw up a red flag?

[quote name='dpatel']I'd rather let consumers choose what format they want, which is what is happening right now. I may be a minority in this, but I would hate to have a board of elites choose what I should spend my money on.[/QUOTE]

[quote name='dpatel']How is that possible? I thought we were all being forced into blu-ray by sony?[/QUOTE]

You seem to have a hard-on over the words "board of elites" and "forced".

The thing you don't understand is that the DVD forum isn't a "board of elites".

It's representives from 230 companies (including Sony) from the industry that come together and vote on the issues concerning the DVD format and it's successor.

Sony had all the chance in the world to become the offical format but they didn't have their shit together and the DVD forum voted for AOD and HD-i.

Since you are all about choice, you think that you would be a strong supporter of HD-DVD.

Weinstein and Universal chose to become HD-DVD exclusive. If you buy a 360, you have the choice of buying the HD-DVD attachment.

Want to play Motorstorm? Congrats you just bought a Blu-Ray player! Don't care about HD movies? Too bad, suck it down and pay the $500.

Want to watch MGM/Columbia movies in HD? You're only choice is to buy Blu-Ray since Sony bought them back in 2005/1989.

That's where it starts getting scary. I don't know about you, but when I look at Sony, I see anti-choice. Sony holds all the card therefore do what Sony says and shut your fucking mouth.

And before you go "WELL OTHER COMPANIES..." Toshiba doesn't own any movie studios or game systems and already had a slam-dunk with controlling the DVD format along with the DVD forum.

- edit [quote name='mykevermin']One movie shouldn't sway either person in either direction. What company puts out Riddick? Universal, right?[/QUOTE]

Yeah.
 
[quote name='VipFREAK']I'm PISSED that Chronicles of Riddick is only on HD DVD and not Blu Ray. WTF. Then I here certain studios have exclusive deals with either format which futher PISSES me off. I am not buying a fucking add-on unit for my 360 JUST to play one HD DVD.

Blu-Ray and the PS3 > HD DVD and the 360...[/QUOTE]

Sucks. Should have thought of that before you plopped down $500 on a PS3 then. This is why I am SO glad to have both formats.
 
[quote name='GizmoGC']Sucks. Should have thought of that before you plopped down $500 on a PS3 then. This is why I am SO glad to have both formats.[/quote]But he plays other movies on his PS3.....

And Sporadic, I'm sorry Sony is a succesful business and has their hands in many pies.
 
[quote name='dallow']And Sporadic, I'm sorry Sony is a succesful business and has their hands in many pies.[/QUOTE]

So am I.

[quote name='Sony Pictures Entertainment US senior VP Steve Heckler in 2000']"The industry will take whatever steps it needs to protect itself and protect its revenue streams...It will not lose that revenue stream, no matter what...Sony is going to take aggressive steps to stop this. We will develop technology that transcends the individual user. We will firewall Napster at source - we will block it at your cable company, we will block it at your phone company, we will block it at your ISP. We will firewall it at your PC...These strategies are being aggressively pursued because there is simply too much at stake."[/QUOTE]

Add in Sony's history of lying, ignoring the law, installing rootkits and crippling legal products in the name of "protecting it's revenue streams" and I would hate to see them in control of the HD market.
 
[quote name='geko29']Probably the most frequently misattributed quote of all time. I've never seen a cite, and I bet you can't find one. :) In the mean time, here are some things Bill DID say about 640k of memory:[/QUOTE]

Hmmm, guess I was wrong about that. Good to know.

[quote name='Sporadic']The "40% of people who own a PS3 don't know they also have a Blu-Ray player" didn't throw up a red flag?[/QUOTE]

Not at all. Maybe if it had said something along the lines of "40% of PS3 owners were held at gun point to buy it" that would've helped your argument regarding Blu-ray being forced on us. Of course, if it was forced on us, you wouldn't have the ability to choose to opt out of blu-ray and you would have a PS3 (or some sort of BD player) in your home right now. But, like you said, this isn't the case, which is all I was getting at. It can't be forced if we can choose not to buy it.


[quote name='Sporadic']You seem to have a hard-on over the words "board of elites" and "forced".

The thing you don't understand is that the DVD forum isn't a "board of elites".

It's representives from 230 companies (including Sony) from the industry that come together and vote on the issues concerning the DVD format and it's successor.

Sony had all the chance in the world to become the offical format but they didn't have their shit together and the DVD forum voted for AOD and HD-i.[/quote]

I couldn't care less how many members it has. I don't believe 230 representatives, no matter how qualified they are, need to be making this decision for us. That's all I'm getting at. I'm not saying we should all support Blu-ray, I'm just saying that it makes more sense for consumers (the ones who will be stuck with the format) to make their own choice as to which they would like to succeed, rather than have a bunch of company representatives do it for them.

[quote name='Sporadic']Since you are all about choice, you think that you would be a strong supporter of HD-DVD. [/QUOTE]

That doesn't make any sense at all. I prefer BD, but I am all about choice for all consumers. Unlike some, I don't want others telling me what I should and should not buy.

[quote name='Sporadic']Weinstein and Universal chose to become HD-DVD exclusive. If you buy a 360, you have the choice of buying the HD-DVD attachment.

Want to play Motorstorm, congrats you just bought a Blu-Ray player. Don't care about HD movies? Too bad, suck it down and pay the $500.

Want to watch MGM/Columbia movies in HD? You're only choice is to buy Blu-Ray since Sony bought them back in 2005/1989.[/QUOTE]

How is this any different from wanting to buy a Universal movie? Want to buy any of those? I guess you're FORCED into HD-DVD. There is no possible way to escape it.

[quote name='Sporadic']That's where it starts getting scary. I don't know about you, but when I look at Sony, I see anti-choice. Sony holds all the card therefore do what Sony says and shut your fucking mouth.

And before you go "WELL OTHER COMPANIES..." Toshiba doesn't own any movie studios or game systems and already had a slam-dunk with controlling the DVD format along with the DVD forum.[/QUOTE]

What you are promoting is the very thing you are complaining about. You hate Sony for being anti-choice, yet you want the next format to be chosen for you.
 
[quote name='dallow']But he plays other movies on his PS3.....

And Sporadic, I'm sorry Sony is a succesful business and has their hands in many pies.[/QUOTE]

Well, he won't be playing Riddick, now will he? :cool:
 
There's a big difference between having DRM on your music to keep from being illegally shared and having DRM on your music that basically fucks up your comp. It's like knowingly giving your gf herpes because you found out about her cheating on you with your best friend.
 
[quote name='orimental']There's a big difference between having DRM on your music to keep from being illegally shared and having DRM on your music that basically fucks up your comp. It's like knowingly giving your gf herpes because you found out about her cheating on you with your best friend.[/quote]We're talking about Napster, and what he said back in 2000.

Not the DRM debacle that came out years later.
 
[quote name='dallow']So Sony wanting their music to stop being illegally downloaded is wrong?[/QUOTE]

When it's done illegally and at the consumers' expense, yes.

[quote name='dallow']We're talking about Napster, and what he said back in 2000.

Not the DRM debacle that came out years later.[/QUOTE]

That quote was the precursor to the rootkit/ARccOS issue in 2005/2006

Which is why I specifically brought it up.

[quote name='Sony Pictures Entertainment US senior VP Steve Heckler in 2000']"The industry will take whatever steps it needs to protect itself and protect its revenue streams...It will not lose that revenue stream, no matter what...Sony is going to take aggressive steps to stop this. We will develop technology that transcends the individual user. We will firewall Napster at source - we will block it at your cable company, we will block it at your phone company, we will block it at your ISP. We will firewall it at your PC...These strategies are being aggressively pursued because there is simply too much at stake."[/QUOTE]

That quote was from a senior VP at Sony Pictures.

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And don't worry dpatel I didn't forget about you. A full rebuttal will come later tonight when I have time :)
 
[quote name='Sporadic']And don't worry dpatel I didn't forget about you. A full rebuttal will come later tonight when I have time :)[/QUOTE]

Try to keep it short if you can. The posts are getting a bit out of hand for me, and are becoming more a chore now.
 
[quote name='Sporadic']When it's done illegally and at the consumers' expense, yes.



That quote was the precursor to the rootkit/ARccOS issue in 2005/2006

Which is why I specifically brought it up.[/quote]It's the consumer who themselves were doing something illegal.

All music publishers have to protect their music from pirates. Nothing wrong with trying to block Napster.
But Sony's root kit/drm scandal years later wasn't the way to go. I'll agree on that.

I never had any of those tainted discs anyway.
I'm not much for the mainstream.

As if Sony was the only big mean company.
 
And, before you take the time to respond, I think we may not be on the same page here. I'm not trying to tell why BD is better than HD (everyone has their reasons for their format of choice, whatever yours is, is irrelevant to me), I've been trying to tell you that:

Consumers choosing next format > DVD forum choosing the next format.

You can praise the DVD forum all you want, and list their size, qualifications, etc. But, they are not the ones who will be paying for the next format, we are. So, it makes so much more sense for the consumers to make the choice, rather than the DVD forum to make it for us.
 
Let's get this straight. Yes Sony put BR in the ps3 to move the format, but no one forced you to buy it. And as sales figures show a lot of people decided not to. Yes Microsoft gave a choice and it was a choice a lot of people passed on. If I'm not mistaken isn't there like 10 million xbox 360's, yet only less than 200,000 hd addons have been sold? What does this tell us? Gaming has very little to do with the format war. I know the sony trojan horse (ps3) does impact sales, but that comes from the tech geeks like myself. Studies have shown that a large number of ps3 owners don't even know about BR playback. I don't think it matters anyway, this format war is going to be decided by big business not us. BB and other big retailers will sooner or later choose a side forcing consumers to follow their command.
 
Many analysts and advocates are already predicting Blu-ray as the winner due to a larger installed BD player base that includes the PS3 in their figures. Since not everyone bought it for the Blu-ray aspect, and because many don't even know it's even capable of doing so, it's not really fair to say that people are choosing Blu-ray over HD DVD at this point, as it's really too early to tell.
 
[quote name='millrat1030']Let's get this straight. Yes Sony put BR in the ps3 to move the format, but no one forced you to buy it. And as sales figures show a lot of people decided not to. Yes Microsoft gave a choice and it was a choice a lot of people passed on. If I'm not mistaken isn't there like 10 million xbox 360's, yet only less than 200,000 hd addons have been sold? What does this tell us? Gaming has very little to do with the format war. I know the sony trojan horse (ps3) does impact sales, but that comes from the tech geeks like myself. Studies have shown that a large number of ps3 owners don't even know about BR playback. I don't think it matters anyway, this format war is going to be decided by big business not us. BB and other big retailers will sooner or later choose a side forcing consumers to follow their command.[/QUOTE]

Sony pretty much just screwed themselves out of being the leader this generation of video games to trojan Blu-Ray in....and its not even a winning format :lol: By now, Sony has announced that they 'have won' the format war several times, yet....HD DVD still sells and its still at that 60/40. No reason for HD DVD or Blu-Ray to end this anytime soon.
 
http://www.dailytech.com/Report+Mos...+360+PS3+HighDef+Capabilities/article8387.htm

Did you know that the PS3 can play Blu-ray movies? Most gamers don’t

Much of the credit for Blu-ray Discs’ rapid surge in sales beginning in 2007 is given to the launch of the PlayStation 3. Sony’s newest console brought to the market an incredible value for the high-definition home theater enthusiast.
The PlayStation 3 remains one of the market’s cheapest, but most capable Blu-ray Disc movie players – but oddly enough, that fact isn’t as well known as one may believe. In fact, research results released by NPD Group suggest that the majority of gamers, including owners of Xbox 360 or PlayStation 3 consoles, are oblivious to their machine’s high-definition capabilities.
Amazingly, the report finds that only 40 percent of PlayStation 3 owners knew that the games machine was fully capable of playing Blu-ray Disc movies. And of those who knew about the Blu-ray feature, only half had used it to play a movie during the last 10 times they used the console. The remaining half who knew about the movie player capabilities do not take advantage of the feature.
While movies may not be on every gamer’s agenda, only 30 percent of Xbox 360 owners knew of the machine’s high-definition gaming output capabilities, with the number rising to 50 percent in the case of PS3 owners. This suggests that the majority of current generation gaming still takes place on standard-definition televisions.
"The industry is still in its infancy with regard to this "next-gen" and all the expanded capabilities of the systems," said NPD analyst Anita Frazier to 1UP. "Gameplay is still king, and it may take awhile for the awareness and usage of the additional features to really take hold with consumers."
Those with HDTVs may be wishing for a high-definition Wii, but given the NPD Group’s findings, it’s easy to understand why Nintendo isn’t yet interested.
Click to expand...
 
I have 50gb of MP3's, being able to back those up on one Blu-ray disc would be very nice. :)

BTW, why would you spend all that money to mod an xbox to back stuff up instead of just buying an external hard drive for 100$?
 
Damn prop head, that's like the 4th time that article has been linked here. (but from original sources).

I also find it funny that they also found that, what was it 20 or 30 percent of PS3 and 360 owners don't even know the system is capable of HD output.
 
[quote name='H.Cornerstone']I have 50gb of MP3's, being able to back those up on one Blu-ray disc would be very nice. :)

BTW, why would you spend all that money to mod an xbox to back stuff up instead of just buying an external hard drive for 100$?[/QUOTE]

....Because the Xbox is the best Media Center money can buy?
I have way too many TV Shows and Movies that I just drag, drop and watch in 720p. It was never meant to be a 'storage device' but I happen to have about 60GB free so why not? And 'all that money' is about $150 for a modded one with a 120GB hard drive.
 
[quote name='dallow']Damn prop head, that's like the 4th time that article has been linked here. (but from original sources).

I also find it funny that they also found that, what was it 20 or 30 percent of PS3 and 360 owners don't even know the system is capable of HD output.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, its pretty damn sad. Why anyone would buy a $600 PS3 and not own a HDTV first still amazes me.
 
[quote name='GizmoGC']....Because the Xbox is the best Media Center money can buy?
I have way too many TV Shows and Movies that I just drag, drop and watch in 720p. It was never meant to be a 'storage device' but I happen to have about 60GB free so why not? And 'all that money' is about $150 for a modded one with a 120GB hard drive.[/quote]

Wait, Xbox or Xbox 360? And I can get a 300gb for about 100$. :)
 
[quote name='GizmoGC']Yeah, its pretty damn sad. Why anyone would buy a $600 PS3 and not own a HDTV first still amazes me.[/QUOTE]

Doesn't suprise me really when you see what I do everyday selling TVs. Only like 3 out of 10 that have a HDTV actually have it connected to a HD source. People throw $1000+ dollars into something not having any idea how to use it or what they need to do to make use of it. We see people coming in all the time that ask we their TV looks worse, 98% of the time it's because the dumb folks simply hook up an old direct-from-the-wall, 20+ year old coax cable, then have the thoughtfullness to ask why it isn't HD. I sort of get where they are coming from thinking everything will be supplied or somehting, but didn't they question anything we they were plunking down $2000 is beyond me.
 
[quote name='H.Cornerstone']Wait, Xbox or Xbox 360? And I can get a 300gb for about 100$. :)[/QUOTE]

Its an Xbox, like I stated, with a 120GB drive. Not the current Elite with a 120GB drive. This drive, on the Xbox, lets you store any type of file you want and plays back, well, just about any type of file. .avi, .wmv, .mp4 etc. Search 'Xbox Media Center' on google and you can see what it does. I plan on putting a bigger HDD in it eventually, so I can store some ISOs on them. I am constantly adding/deleting stuff from it and don't need to store a years worth of porn :)
 
[quote name='mykevermin']:lol: The pirate doesn't care for the storage space on BR! :lol:[/QUOTE]

Nope. Why would I? Not like there is any good PS3 games to even pirate.
 
[quote name='dpatel']What does that have to do with storage space on BD?[/quote]Just forget it dpatel. 30GB > 50GB for portable, disc based storage needs.
 
Ah ok. 30GB > 50GB because the PS3 doesn't have any games. Makes complete sense.

I think 700MB > 9GB because I prefer listening to music, rather than watching DVDs.
 
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