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[quote name='starman9000']Well, Liriano is hurt now, so maybe the dominance of the Twins will turn around.....wel, maybe not.[/QUOTE]
well it isn't like chicago is kicking ass right now. They have the yanks and the red sox coming to town shortly.
 
Reds deal for outfielder Hollandsworth for stretch run

CINCINNATI -- The Cincinnati Reds added another bat for the stretch run Wednesday, acquiring veteran outfielder Todd Hollandsworth from the Cleveland Indians for a player to be named or cash.

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Hollandsworth, 33, was batting just .237 with six home runs and 27 RBI in 56 games for the Indians this season.
Hollandsworth has batted .273 with 97 home runs and 393 RBI in 12 seasons with the Los Angeles Dodgers, Colorado Rockies, Texas Rangers, Florida Marlins, Chicago Cubs, Atlanta Braves and Indians.
To make room for Hollandsworth on the 40-man roster, the Reds transferred pitcher Brandon Claussen to the 60-day disabled list. Another move will be made to the active roster when Hollandsworth joins the Reds.
 
Halladay just got his 14th win to tie for the ML lead (with Schilling and Verlander, I think). We are 1/2 way through August... pitchers get 5 starts a month... will anyone reach 20 wins this year? I can't remember the last time no pitcher won 20 games in the entire league.... has it ever even happened?
 
[quote name='javeryh']Halladay just got his 14th win to tie for the ML lead (with Schilling and Verlander, I think). We are 1/2 way through August... pitchers get 5 starts a month... will anyone reach 20 wins this year? I can't remember the last time no pitcher won 20 games in the entire league.... has it ever even happened?[/quote]

Look at last year it was the same way besides like colon and oswalt
 
in 2005 4 players reached 20, with 22 being the highest.
2004 3 players reached 20, 21 being the highest
2003 5 players reached 20, 22 being the highest
2002 5 players reached 20, 24 being the highest
2001 2 players reached 20, 22 being the highest
2000 4 players reached 20, 21 being the highest
1999 3 players reached 20, 23 being the highest
1998 4 players reached 20, 20 being the highest
1997 4 players reached 20, 21 being the highest


schilling and beckett should each get about 9 more starts. It is possible to have 2 20 game winners. The last time to not have a 20 game winner was 1995. Gregg Maddux and Mike Musina each led the league with 19 wins. There was only 3 with 18 and 2 with 17 wins that season. 1994, 17 wins led the way. It was Jimmy Key. 1994 was the last year to be affected by the strike. Key had 25 starts though, so he got a fair amount of starts.
 
[quote name='assasin4hire']Oh yeah i forgot about that, didnt the Mlb go on strike in the early 90's?[/QUOTE]


August 12, 1994. I know because it was my fucking birthday.
 
[quote name='CocheseUGA']August 12, 1994. I know because it was my fucking birthday.[/QUOTE]

ouch! that sucks. dreams wer crushed that year expspecially for the expos
 
[quote name='integralsmatic']ouch! that sucks. dreams wer crushed that year expspecially for the expos[/QUOTE]

I know. :cry:
 
I'd like to point out that the Twins are now leading in the AL Wild Card race and justin morneau just hit his 30th homer and 100 and 101th rbi last night.
 
[quote name='tyecko']I'd like to point out that the Twins are now leading in the AL Wild Card race and justin morneau just hit his 30th homer and 100 and 101th rbi last night.[/QUOTE]

Heck Ya!

Now, I just hope Garza can live up to at least a fraction of the hype he's been getting.

I doubt it will happen, but if Morneau keeps up the pace and Ortiz slips off a little, we could have a Canadian MVP in Hockey, Basketball AND Baseball....scary.
 
[quote name='ryanbph']ortiz won't slip off, he has to carry us back into contention.[/quote]

Yeah, and keep us from getting swept by the lowly Royals. Lets hope we can beat up on the O's this weekend.
 
Glad to see that the Cardinals got back on track. Last year at this time they had the central all but wrapped up.
 
[quote name='AK85']Glad to see that the Cardinals got back on track. Last year at this time they had the central all but wrapped up.[/quote]

I wouldn't really consider a spilt back on track, but to each his own.

But speaking of getting back on track, thats what the Red Sox need to do. I mean shit, they've lost 5 of 6 to the lowly D Rays and Royals (swept, ouch). I really think the ball got dropped at the deadline. Had they picked up atleast another arm for the rotation, they may have been able to get the spark they needed to get going. But now since the deadline, they are like 3-7 or close to that.
 
And to make matters worse for the Red Sox (after Baltimore), their schedule is stacked for another few weeks:

vs Tigers (3)
vs Yankees (5)
at Angels (3)
at Mariners (3) ("easiest series")
at A's (3)
vs Jays (4) (always seem to own the Sox)
vs White Sox (3)
vs Royals (3) (back to the shitter)

And have 1 day off in the process, but still average a game a day (30 games, 30 days) The stuff of legends....
 
[quote name='javeryh']Mets win again. 7-3. Now have a 14 game lead in NL Easy.[/QUOTE]

yay i hope it grows and grows...im happy for piazza too...he is having a good series even though his team is losing..two bombs off of pedro aint bad for him
 
[quote name='craven_fiend']I wouldn't really consider a spilt back on track, but to each his own.

But speaking of getting back on track, thats what the Red Sox need to do. I mean shit, they've lost 5 of 6 to the lowly D Rays and Royals (swept, ouch). I really think the ball got dropped at the deadline. Had they picked up atleast another arm for the rotation, they may have been able to get the spark they needed to get going. But now since the deadline, they are like 3-7 or close to that.[/QUOTE]
who were they going to get, and at what cost...lester/hansen/and crisp for jones who would then be flipped with cash for oswalt was too high a price to pay. Allegedly they offered much more for cory liddle, but the phils wanted to include abreau contract. We didn't need another of. There weren't any pitchers moved they were worth it.

For starters they haven't really had any losing streaks this season, and 2nd of all, w/o varitek catching the younger pitching we are dead.
 
[quote name='ryanbph']who were they going to get, and at what cost...lester/hansen/and crisp for jones who would then be flipped with cash for oswalt was too high a price to pay. Allegedly they offered much more for cory liddle, but the phils wanted to include abreau contract. We didn't need another of. There weren't any pitchers moved they were worth it.

For starters they haven't really had any losing streaks this season, and 2nd of all, w/o varitek catching the younger pitching we are dead.[/quote]

Anything but sitting by hoping Wells would come back good, after not doing any rehab starts prior to his big league return. They could've went out and got a 5th starter anything, just to give them somewhat of a spark. Lopez is a decent spark, but they've got to give him a few games with the pitchers to get on track.

I just hope they don't miss out on the post season, due to not making any moves.
 
[quote name='integralsmatic']yay i hope it grows and grows...im happy for piazza too...he is having a good series even though his team is losing..two bombs off of pedro aint bad for him[/quote]

Yeah, I still respect Piazza. He was one of my favorite players while he was with the Mets. It's funny though, cuz I remember being so pissed the Mets were getting rid of Hundley. I thought he was going to be the next best catcher in baseball. I was so wrong...
 
Well, big series again this week: Detroit vs Chicago. I hope D takes at least 2. Unless there is a complete collapse, I cannot wait for some playoff baseball in Detroit. The good thing is, Detroit, Minn, Chi, NY and Boston all keep playing each other...so, teams will cancel each other out with wins and losses (unless one team just dominates).
 
The White Sox scored 4 runs against the Tigers while Kenny Rogers was pitching. Kenny's ERA for the game? Zero.

God dammit, what the fuck is their problem? I swear if they don't win tomorrow, you can almost guarantee a shitty month.
 
[quote name='ryanbph']the good news is, the red sox have 7 or so more games vs baltimore. They currently are 10 - 1 against them :)[/quote]

That is true. I think they will probably play their best baseball, hopefully, of the year over the next 30 games, anything less than 20-10 is unexceptable. Give me 30-0, :rofl:.

Yesterday was a scare.
 
Man, the Twins are so hit and miss lately they win or get wooped. 3 blowouts against mediocre Blue-Jays pitching is terrible. They did the same thing vs Texas.
 
Yeah the Tigers really shit the bed this weekend. The champs played well.

On another note. Dodgers fans are not fond of Bonds and are making it clear during Sunday Night Baseball.
 
And then it was back to 1 game. Good jobs Angels, thanks for the help.

Lets hope a sweep gives the team the spark they need, as its going to be a tough 30 games.
 
Yep, I didn't get a chance to listen to talk radio today in Detroit, but I can hear Stoney's intro...."PANIC IN TIGERTOWN! PANIC IN TIGERTOWN!"

What a horrid weekend for them. Hoepfully they can go all KC on Boston.
 
[quote name='doubledown']Yep, I didn't get a chance to listen to talk radio today in Detroit, but I can hear Stoney's intro...."PANIC IN TIGERTOWN! PANIC IN TIGERTOWN!"

What a horrid weekend for them. Hoepfully they can go all KC on Boston.[/quote]

Highly unlikely that the Tigers will come into Fenway and sweep the Sox. I will give the Tigers Wednesdays game is it. Since it is Verlander against Wells. Still don't have too much faith in Wells. But if he is effective in that start, then the rotation should hold up until Wakefield is ready to go.
 
[quote name='doubledown']I hope we take 2 of 3...go Tigers. Nate, Bonderman, and Verlander....hopefully they all pitch well this time around.[/quote]

If the Sox didn't have Beckett and Schilling to start the series, I'd say the Tigers would take 2 of 3. Hell, if Verlander was starting the series, I may agree 2 of 3 is possible. But we will see. I think we both agree that the odds of either team sweeping this is very low.

Also, here's hoping the Yankees lose again tonight.
 
[quote name='doubledown']Yep, I didn't get a chance to listen to talk radio today in Detroit, but I can hear Stoney's intro...."PANIC IN TIGERTOWN! PANIC IN TIGERTOWN!"

What a horrid weekend for them. Hoepfully they can go all KC on Boston.[/QUOTE]

As a Michigan native, I'm starting to freak out a little bit. But they're still up by 5 games or so, right?
 
[quote name='nevposey']As a Michigan native, I'm starting to freak out a little bit. But they're still up by 5 games or so, right?[/QUOTE]

Yep.
 
Yep....glad the Tigers won. Stoney did say that also...the sports talk guys here in MI don't seem worried though. Teams go through slumps. Glad Detroit was able to beat Boston though, that was nice. The fielding is the main problem lately and the K situation. The Tigers struck out 22 times to 1 walk in the ChiSox series.
 
Looks like the Red Sox may get swept at Fenway by the Tigers. Unless by some miracle Wells can pitch another gem like the other day. Heres hoping.
 
The tigers have everything locked up,they are playoff bound. Look at what happened last year to chicago, its gonna happen again.Im not saying theyre gonna win the world series though,thats not gonna happen
 
the tigers are hot but i think the playoffs will be a whole different story...the BoSox can be a very very dangerous team and are fully equipped for the playoffs...the tigers are too but i think exp might hurt them.

well my week was bad...martinez out,el duque blown up for 11 runs....man we are sucking
 
[quote name='integralsmatic']the tigers are hot but i think the playoffs will be a whole different story...the BoSox can be a very very dangerous team and are fully equipped for the playoffs...the tigers are too but i think exp might hurt them.

well my week was bad...martinez out,el duque blown up for 11 runs....man we are sucking[/quote]

Lets be honest, the Mets have plenty of breathing room between them and the Phillies. All the have to do is play .500 ball the rest of the way, and they are in the post season, and most likely the top seed in the NL.

I think once September gets here, they should rest Pedro, Glavine, Wright, and atleast Beltran every few days.
 
[quote name='integralsmatic']the tigers are hot but i think the playoffs will be a whole different story...the BoSox can be a very very dangerous team and are fully equipped for the playoffs...the tigers are too but i think exp might hurt them.

well my week was bad...martinez out,el duque blown up for 11 runs....man we are sucking[/QUOTE]

Hey, look what Jim Leyland did for the Marlins in their World Series year.

Glad the Tigers won again. I was hoping they would take 2 of 3....now it's time to be greedy and get the sweep :)

They are looking good here. The talk is all about Verlander's arm though. People are saying he is burnt out. A week off, a lackluster start where is fastball did not pop....did not get to 99 or 100mph like normal. Hopefully they don't ruin his arm. Maybe they will rest him more when Maroth comes back....rumblings of a SIX man rotation. It would be tought to rest him though, since he is Cy young/R.O.Y. candidate. But his career is more important.
 
[quote name='doubledown']Hey, look what Jim Leyland did for the Marlins in their World Series year.

Glad the Tigers won again. I was hoping they would take 2 of 3....now it's time to be greedy and get the sweep :)

They are looking good here. The talk is all about Verlander's arm though. People are saying he is burnt out. A week off, a lackluster start where is fastball did not pop....did not get to 99 or 100mph like normal. Hopefully they don't ruin his arm. Maybe they will rest him more when Maroth comes back....rumblings of a SIX man rotation. It would be tought to rest him though, since he is Cy young/R.O.Y. candidate. But his career is more important.[/QUOTE]

Thats sucks for Verlander. Liriano is going through the same thing right now, I hope he's not out for the year, but it's better to be safe. I figured with Liriano down, that Verlander would be the lock for CY/ROY, but if he goes down too, who knows. Weaver could end up with R.O.Y just because he started later and won't get burned out.
 
Well, Verlander is still pitching...he starts tonight. Just sports talk speculation. They said he might be tipping his pitches...who knows. We'll see how things go tonight. He already pitched more innings this year than he has in another year.

Side Note....looks like Polanco could be done for the season with a shoulder injury....uh oh. Time for Infante to show what he can do
 
[quote name='doubledown']
Side Note....looks like Polanco could be done for the season with a shoulder injury....uh oh. Time for Infante to show what he can do[/quote]
Yeah, I had to check the roster to make sure Infante was still in the dugout (hard to keep up with anyone who isn't making themselves known when you're not living in Detroit anymore). Defensively he isn't too much of a downgrade from Polanco, and Polanco wasn't known for his offense. Hopefully if he is out for the season, he won't be missed too horribly.
 
It hurts to see the Mets get blown out by the Phills. Especially since one of my coworkers is a huge Phillies fan.

craven_fiend is right though. What they need to do is rest some of their players to be ready for the post season.
 
[quote name='botticus']Yeah, I had to check the roster to make sure Infante was still in the dugout (hard to keep up with anyone who isn't making themselves known when you're not living in Detroit anymore). Defensively he isn't too much of a downgrade from Polanco, and Polanco wasn't known for his offense. Hopefully if he is out for the season, he won't be missed too horribly.[/QUOTE]

Polanco is a CLUCH hitter though. I think he had one of the higest BA with runner's in scoring position. He doesn't strike out much either.....which is a problem for Detroit. I just hope Infante fills in nicely. They already called up Roman Santiago.
 
[quote name='doubledown']Well, Verlander is still pitching...he starts tonight. Just sports talk speculation. They said he might be tipping his pitches...who knows. We'll see how things go tonight. He already pitched more innings this year than he has in another year.

Side Note....looks like Polanco could be done for the season with a shoulder injury....uh oh. Time for Infante to show what he can do[/QUOTE]
have you guys forgot about paplebon...he has pitched very well throughout the season and is the only reason the sox are still in it.
 
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