Madden 11 League-OFFICIAL CAG LEAGUE-That's all folks! Mini-tourney still coming tho!

Trade Agreement has come to a close between the Dolphins and Packers

Dolphins Trade:
Brian Hartline-82 OVR, B Potential, 25 Years Old
Greg Camarillo-74 OVR, B Potential, 30 Years Old

Packers Trade:
B.J. Raji-81 OVR, A Potential, 26 Years Old
 
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off topic but being a cheap ass everything in real life I just got some Popcorn, Indiana cinnamon sugar and white chocolate drizzled popcorn for 75 cents a bag

after eating almost a whole bag already I want to go to walmart and buy like 10 more bags at that price
 
[quote name='bvharris']Are there any TEs in the league which aren't available? Talk about diluting the market when I was looking to move Gates, lol[/QUOTE]

Rob Gronkowski will retire as a Patriot.
 
[quote name='ubernes']Trade alert:

Jets receive:
TE Brody Eldridge (OVR 77, B pot, 25 years old)

Colts receive:
3rd round pick

The TE sounds a lot better/promising than he actually is IMO (can't catch worth a damn), but I'm interested in seeing what I can do with him.[/QUOTE]

[quote name='siradam134']Trade Agreement has come to a close between the Dolphins and Packers

Dolphins Trade:
Brian Hartline-82 OVR, B Potential, 25 Years Old
Greg Camarillo-74 OVR, B Potential, 30 Years Old

Packers Trade:
B.J. Raji-81 OVR, A Potential, 26 Years Old[/QUOTE]

I'd like to hear more opinions on both of these before I put them through sometime tomorrow (Fri). The Miami/Green Bay trade looks good to me.
 
[quote name='redygo']Bucs could use Dunta Robinson and willing to give up a 1st round pick for him.[/QUOTE]

[quote name='silentghost227']Trade for Review:

Seahawks send their 1st round pick to the Chargers for Quentin Jammer (82 ovr)[/QUOTE]

So I was going to put these through now and update the OP. Hope everyone doesn't freak!
 
I'm fine with all the previously mentioned trades. Eldridge has some darn good blocking stats...I don't think I've ever seen better blocking stats for a TE. I've never even heard of this beast!
 
[quote name='gbpackers94']idk about Falcons/Redskins but probably sometime between 5-10pm est.[/QUOTE]

It looks like the other two games will be played at 5-6pm. So if you could get it done around then that would be great. I'd love to advance us at 7pm est.
 
Any way I can request whoever just subbed for the Jaguars to keep doing it till I get back? Just took a look at the stats and saw that based on the amount of passing/rushing and the results it looks like he plays similarly to the way I use the Jags. And I got a win, thank you sir!
 
[quote name='siradam134']Trade Agreement has come to a close between the Dolphins and Packers

Dolphins Trade:
Brian Hartline-82 OVR, B Potential, 25 Years Old
Greg Camarillo-74 OVR, B Potential, 30 Years Old

Packers Trade:
B.J. Raji-81 OVR, A Potential, 26 Years Old[/QUOTE]

This one is basically saying that we think potential is a more important factor than almost anything else, since otherwise I don't see why this trade isn't just Hartline for Raji considering that on balance WRs are more valuable than DTs (IMO) and they're essentially the same age. Looking at the stats the Dolphins don't really seem to be using either guy though, so given that I don't have an issue with it.
 
i would have gladly done hartline for Raji....but raji's a possibility of being an 86-87 next year.....and a starter in my defense...where hartline will only possibly be an 83/84...and 5th string. So, yes, this is why i offered 2 B's....so the league wouldn't say i was ripping matt off...i was trying to be fair.
 
I think it's fair as well. Like I said, I have (had), I guess) 4 WRs on my roster before the trade, and all but Greg Jennings are in the 70s overall. Raji would have developed another 5 or so points by this season, probably, had the game not auto-drafted a superior DT for me who ended up starting in his place last year. Adam had 8 WRs before he proposed the trade.

Anyway, the U-Haul's got to be picked up soon, so the computer's getting boxed up. Hopefully, I'll have internet access again by the end of the evening. Take care, everyone.
 
[quote name='bvharris']The window for making an offer Antonio Gates is closing, since I'd want to get him moved before my 6PM game with mog.[/QUOTE]

I think it closed with that Jammer deal, no? You only can trade one core player now and Gates, I assume, is 90+.

edit: these trades have been added to the OP and I'm now going to put them through in the game.

Bucs send a 1st round pick (4/1) to the Falcons for Dunta Robinson (5/2)
Seahawks send their 1st round pick (2/1) to the Chargers for Quentin Jammer (2/1)
Jets send their 3rd round pick (5/3) to the Colts for TE Brody Elridge (5/3)
Dolphins send Brian Hartline and Greg Camarilo (2/1) to the Packers for BJ Raji (5/2)

edit2: they've been put through.
 
[quote name='ubernes']I think it closed with that Jammer deal, no? You only can trade one core player now and Gates, I assume, is 90+.
[/QUOTE]

I thought we'd upped the limit to 5 core players? If not, then nevermind, Gates is off the block. :D
 
Here we go. The trade limit was bumped from 5 to 6. The core players from 3 to 4. I'll have to double check if I was doing it correctly though as I think I may have been treating it like 3 was the limit still.

[quote name='ubernes']You can trade 6 players per season, 4 of them can be 'core' players. Core is anyone over 80. If a person is over 90 it counts as two core players. This is to prevent too many superstars being dealt from one team. I believe this is what we've been running off of these last two seasons, but I may have bumped each limit up 1, which I think is fine. Yes, no?[/QUOTE]
 
[quote name='ubernes']Here we go. The trade limit was bumped from 5 to 6. The core players from 3 to 4. I'll have to double check if I was doing it correctly though as I think I may have been treating it like 3 was the limit still.[/QUOTE]

No, I think you have it right. I've traded Castillo, Hardwick, and Jammer, all in the 80s, so that would be 3 of 4.
 
Any predictions for this weekend?

Mine:

Steelers 20 - Ravens 17 - Obvious to pick a low-scoring three point game, but that's how these teams do.

Packers 31 - Falcons 17 - I honestly believe the Packers are the best team in the NFC, and I've never really bought into the Falcons hype (has there been any?)

Bears 24 - Seahawks 13 - I think the Bears are the much better team, and I don't think the regular season win for the Seahawks means much, I think they come back down to earth.

Patriots 34 - Jets 24 - My gut tells me the margin will be larger, and on paper the Patriots should win easily but I know the universe isn't going to let me get through this one without some heartburn.
 
Steelers 17 - Ravens 14 - Pretty much on the same boat as you BV

Packers 34 - Falcons 30 - 2 good offenses, I think it'll be somewhat of a shootout with Packers barely pulling off the win

Bears 28 - Seahawks 7 - I don't think this one's even gonna be close...it's hard to expect another game like that out of Hasselbeck and I don't see Lynch running all over the Chicago D like he did against the Saints

Patriots 37 - Jets 20 - It won't be quite the blowout as last game but still an easy win for the Patriots I think.
 
Steelers, Falcons, Seahawks, Jets

I like the Ravens, but Flacco in Pitt? I think they won there this year, but it was without Big Ben. I just don't see them pulling it out.

Falcons at home. I planned on taking them all the way to the Super Bowl and then losing to whoever comes out of the AFC.

The Bears just aren't very good for a playoff team IMO and that says a lot when they are playing the Seahawks. They are better than Seattle, but not by a large margin so I'm pulling for the upset.

J-E-T-S, baby. People can bring up the last game all they want, shit happens. I would be surprised if it happened again. I assume they plan on approaching it the same way they did the Colts. Keep Rex in check with his blitzes and let the RB beat them. This game should rest on Green-Ellis shoulders and I like those odds.
 
[quote name='ubernes']
J-E-T-S, baby. People can bring up the last game all they want, shit happens. I would be surprised if it happened again. [/QUOTE]

I totally agree, I don't see any reason that a game played so recently between the exact same two teams in the exact same stadium could tell us anything about the relative quality of the teams involved or how they match up with one another as it relates to a rematch. Silly sports media! :D
 
[quote name='bvharris']I totally agree, I don't see any reason that a game played so recently between the exact same two teams in the exact same stadium could tell us anything about the relative quality of the teams involved or how they match up with one another as it relates to a rematch. Silly sports media! :D[/QUOTE]

Really not the exact same teams. The Jets had at least one 1st time starter (SS) that game and Eric Smith has since proven that he can do just fine in that role. There's also a little thing called adjustments. The way the Jets were calling plays vs the Colts was pretty much the exact opposite how they were calling them vs the Pats earlier in the season. I expect them to use that as a blueprint, but please keep yapping. If the Jets win it'll make it all the sweeter. :D
 
[quote name='ubernes']Really not the exact same teams. The Jets had at least one 1st time starter (SS) that game and Eric Smith has since proven that he can do just fine in that role. There's also a little thing called adjustments. The way the Jets were calling plays vs the Colts was pretty much the exact opposite how they were calling them vs the Pats earlier in the season. I expect them to use that as a blueprint, but please keep yapping. If the Jets win it'll make it all the sweeter. :D[/QUOTE]

Do you know what yapping is? Pretty much the furthest possible thing from what I'm doing. I'm filled with immeasurable dread the same way I am before every single Patriots game (I'm not kidding). For lifelong fans of Boston teams winning has not bred that out of us, losing to the Jets would be a nightmare. It's a very real possibility that the Jets will win this game. That said, the Patriots are a significantly better team and to suggest otherwise is just silly (and incorrect). There's nothing at all to suggest the Jets are likely to win this game, though obviously they're definitely capable of winning it.

Edit: Believe me, any Patriots fan who is ever over-confident about a playoff game again after the 2007 Super Bowl is exactly the same sort of mouth-breathing moron stereotype that we're all painted as anyway, lol
 
[quote name='bvharris']Do you know what yapping is?[/QUOTE]

[quote name='bvharris']That said, the Patriots are a significantly better team and to suggest otherwise is just silly (and incorrect).[/QUOTE]

The Pats are significantly better than the Bills. The Pats are better than the Jets, don't get me wrong. But it's the playoffs. The only matchup where I would say Team A is significantly better than Team B is if the Seahawks were to defeat the Bears and they met the Falcons in the NFC Championship game.
 
[quote name='ubernes']The Pats are significantly better than the Bills. The Pats are better than the Jets, don't get me wrong. But it's the playoffs. The only matchup where I would say Team A is significantly better than Team B is if the Seahawks were to defeat the Bears and they met the Falcons in the NFC Championship game.[/QUOTE]

I'm just going by statistics here, which I'm not going to recite since you can access them just as easily, but Football Outsiders ended up concluding this Patriots season was one of the most dominant of all time.. Add to that the ridiculous +27 turnover ratio, and the only team who was really close to the Patriots on the field this year was the Steelers. It's not just bravado to say that, the stats back it up. The word "significantly" is subjective obviously, but it's not tossed around without evidence.

But obviously stats can only tell you so much, and to me it boils down to this, as does every playoff game: Look at the quarterbacks. Whatever talent Mark Sanchez might have and however good he might become in the future (a debate for a different time) right now he is at best average (the stats say he's not even that, but not worth arguing over). Brady's track record speaks for itself. If I had to point to one thing to sway the matchup, it would be that. Brady has been playing otherworldly football the past two months and in order to win the Jets are going to need to force some mistakes (something the Pats have not been particularly generous with this season, as I pointed out above).

All that said, come Sunday I will still be a quivering wreck of nerves after every Brady incompletion or Jets first down, as I always am.
 
Rams and Chiefs has agreed to a trade

Chiefs get:

MLB L. Timmins 87 OVR A POT Age 26
FS N. Dissarro 53 OVR F POT Age 23

Rams get:

CB B. Hogan 55 OVT ?? POT Age 22
1st Rnd Pick
3rd Rnd Pck
 
I have no real issue with that trade, though I suggest anyone who is thinking about doing a fire sale to not get rid of their good, young players. :D

I'm going to be handing BV the commish status for this evening. I'm heading out to the Knicks-Kings game! Woo-hoo! I told him that I'm shooting for a 9pm EST cutoff. From what I know of everyone's plans and availability for this evening, there's no reason why we can't wrap this up around 7pm EST and maybe get some games in tonight.
 
[quote name='ubernes']I have no real issue with that trade, though I suggest anyone who is thinking about doing a fire sale to not get rid of their good, young players. :D

I'm going to be handing BV the commish status for this evening. I'm heading out to the Knicks-Kings game! Woo-hoo! I told him that I'm shooting for a 9pm EST cutoff. From what I know of everyone's plans and availability for this evening, there's no reason why we can't wrap this up around 7pm EST and maybe get some games in tonight.[/QUOTE]

I said "for the right price" trust me, it probably won't happen.
 
[quote name='gregthomas77']Rams and Chiefs has agreed to a trade

Chiefs get:

MLB L. Timmins 87 OVR A POT Age 26
FS N. Dissarro 53 OVR F POT Age 23

Rams get:

CB B. Hogan 55 OVT ?? POT Age 22
1st Rnd Pick
3rd Rnd Pck[/QUOTE]

Lol Rams are a bit trade-happy huh? Nothing wrong with that though. The trade looks okay to me...kind of an odd trade altogether considering these 50 rated players and Timmons is out for 10 more weeks.

Just something I want to note though: people might overlook these 50-rated players being exchanged here, but that FS N. Dissarro is actually really darn good if user-controlled. 93 speed, 95 agility, 95 acceleration, 77 catching, 97 jumping, 74 tackle (which is pretty good for a safety), 96 hit power...he has the makings of an elite safety in the right hands (i.e. sprice). His low rating seems to come almost exclusively from a 25 awareness and 21 zone coverage.

Ben Hogan (the 55 rated CB) has some underrated coverage stats (69 man, 65 zone) and some good speed, but a ridiculous 11 awareness rating. I don't know how much awareness plays into a CB's effectiveness, but I assume with an 11 awareness rating, I don't think he would even be aware that he's on a football field let alone be able to cover anyone.

So I don't know if people think we should even take into account how good a player is while user-controlled or not, but I thought it was definitely worth mentioning. It seems obvious to me that Sprice wanted to throw in that last exchange of 50 rated players so that he can get that FS and user control him, or else having 2 50-rated players tacked on to the trade proposal seems downright silly. There's nothing sneaky about that on Sprice's part or anything, but I'm just saying...people might overlook those players but Dissarro could end up being a game-changer.

But then again, I think a 1st and a 3rd for an out-for-the-season Lawrence Timmons is pretty generous, so that might make up for my concerns about the 50's guys.
 
Good eye, Sheriff. That changes things a bit, but I agree that with Timmons out for the season that it evens things up.

edit: we should probably treat Dissario as someone in the 80s. So two 80s (one I suppose a bit handicapped for being useless when not user-controlled) for a 1st and a 3rd?
 
[quote name='ubernes']Good eye, Sheriff. That changes things a bit, but I agree that with Timmons out for the season that it evens things up.

edit: we should probably treat Dissario as someone in the 80s. So two 80s (one I suppose a bit handicapped for being useless when not user-controlled) for a 1st and a 3rd?[/QUOTE]

I don't think we should overlook Dissarro's potential when user-controlled, especially since safety is one of the more user-friendly positions for controlling. I think safety and linebacker are basically the two exclusively user-controlled positions on defense aside from probably a couple exceptions (I know HydroX controlled a lineman back when he was in this league so I'm sure some others do as well). I think treating him as a player in the 80s might be a little too harsh (I'm not really sure of my stance on this yet...we should definitely get more discussion about him), but if we do end up treating him that way, then that raises a couple concerns:

-Would you count him as 1 core player then?
-You could consider him a player in the 80s, however, since he likely has an F potential...he's not going to progress any and might even start declining after a couple seasons (I've never monitored player progressions over more than a season for a player with an F potential lol)

I still feel inclined to give my support to this trade though (cause of the Timmons injury), but I definitely say we hold off on putting it through so we can get some more opinions.
 
I'm curious why they even put players like that in the game. Basically players with otherworldly physical talents but a brain the size of a peanut... Don't they already have Antonio Cromartie? :D

[quote name='MasterAwesome'](I know HydroX controlled a lineman back when he was in this league so I'm sure some others do as well). [/QUOTE]

I do sometimes, though usually I control a LB. Lineman is the one position you're at least guaranteed not to screw something up though, lol
 
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Dammit, Kay and I just disconnected when I was up 21-0. Is there a rule about letting get my lead back (atleast part)? Normally I wouldn't care about a 7 or 10 point lead, but 21 seems pretty big.... let me know as soon as possible BV, uberness, sheriff, and others. We are replaying in 30 minutes.
More info: I had just scored and he had the ball at his 25 with 1:xx left in the 2nd quarter.
 
[quote name='bvharris']I'm curious why they even put players like that in the game. Basically players with otherworldly physical talents but a brain the size of a peanut... Don't they already have Antonio Cromartie? :D[/QUOTE]

Lol yeah, there are a TON of people in real life who are insanely athletic but lack the intelligence to be a good player...but you wouldn't expect any of them to make it to the NFL draft, let alone actually be drafted.
 
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