Madden 12 League-OFFICIAL CAG LEAGUE-Week 3 live. Deadline Monday night.

Status
Not open for further replies.
[quote name='staticz']Wow sorry I even made the comment. I really wasn't complaining, I swept the Cards last year.[/QUOTE]


I know you weren't complaining! and you were 1-0 against me and 1-0 against the previous owner, don't forget that..

I think that when something is brought up on the forum, which relates to how I play the game, I want to get it clarified and have as many opinions as possible immediately. (I work on a computer all day)

BV, is the commissioner and I appreciate that he is on here answering questions all the time.

If the convo came off as hostile I'm sure that was just brotherly love.
 
to clarify my stand on these types of trades, LV had told me last night or the night before that he liked his stable of rbs... thats why our deal fell apart. to go from that to trading for AP is a move being made simply because it's AP. I dont agree with that trade logic abc I feel like the longer this stuff goes on, more people are gonna lose interest because they just can't be competitive against these "super" teams.
 
[quote name='bvharris']Let him run his team how he wants. You know for a fact we have other people in this league who start looking to the future from week 1. Plus, you know GB wants to win.

He's giving up the same Roddy White he was giving up in our old deal, plus a lesser CB. He's getting back a much better CB than he was getting, a better WR than he was getting, plus a DT.

Even as someone who thought that trade was fair, GB is getting a much better deal here than he was before. This trade is pretty clearly fair for all three teams involved from where I'm standing.[/QUOTE]

A trade involving the best runningback in football will never be fair. Though from a madden standpoint and matching up ratings, sure it works.

Does it make sense? No, it really doesn't and I feel very strongly about that. I'm not alone either, though I'm sure others are just lurking.

As we head into Madden 13, the implementation of a salary cap should be required. Obviously it's not possible now with the state of some teams.

I'm all for trades, but when so many elite players are swapping hands it just takes away from the realism. We're supposed to be running our teams like real-life coaches but that doesn't seem to apply to our GM skills because there's no money involved, just names.

You can all run your team how you want and I will still give my input as to whether a trade is fair or not. In this case, it is from a ratings standpoint and that's about it. Porter will grow into an elite corner (barring injury of course) AP will continue to dominate. White will get his separation.
 
[quote name='Deuce20602']to clarify my stand on these types of trades, LV had told me last night or the night before that he liked his stable of rbs... thats why our deal fell apart. to go from that to trading for AP is a move being made simply because it's AP. I dont agree with that trade logic abc I feel like the longer this stuff goes on, more people are gonna lose interest because they just can't be competitive against these "super" teams.[/QUOTE]


Really? My SUPER team now has a top CB that is an 84!

My #2 WR will be a complete sh8tbum.

Sorry old declining Deangelo doesn't interest me like AP.

BV's team gets a little less Super without AP as well, don't you think?
 
[quote name='Doomtime']
As we head into Madden 13, the implementation of a salary cap should be required. [/QUOTE]

Fine. I've said a half dozen times I'm fine with that. I am so far beyond tired of hearing this shit. These are the rules we play under. Both you and Deuce play under them too.

Here's a list:
Larry Fitzgerald
Ed Reed
Steve Smith (twice)
Miles Austin
DeAngelo Williams
Terrence Newman
AJ Green
Terrell Suggs
Leodis McKelvin
LaRon Landry

That's just a sampling of the guys you and Deuce have either traded away or for in the last two years. If you guys want a salary cap, I'm for it, but please spare me the righteous indignation like you're somehow above this sort of thing. At least when someone like BigAT complains about it, it doesn't come across as hypocrisy. If that comes across as hostile, it was supposed to. Don't bitch about the rules we have and then also take advantage of them yourselves. If you want to make a principled stand, make it. We can change the rules either way, I'm fine with that, but at least be consistent.
 
[quote name='Deuce20602']easy LV... for u to think I was referring to your cardinals as a super team is a lil forward of u dont u think?[/QUOTE]

Don't worry, I think everyone knows who you were talking about.
 
[quote name='Deuce20602']easy LV... for u to think I was referring to your cardinals as a super team is a lil forward of u dont u think?[/QUOTE]


Sorry buddy, can I have a list of "These Super Teams"?

Your post kind of went LV blah blah RB's blah Ap name blah Super Teams.

I thought maybe getting Drew Brees and Adrian Peterson would have fell into the criteria of big name trades.
 
[quote name='bvharris']Fine. I've said a half dozen times I'm fine with that. I am so far beyond tired of hearing this shit. These are the rules we play under. Both you and Deuce play under them too.

Here's a list:
Larry Fitzgerald
Ed Reed
Steve Smith (twice)
Miles Austin
DeAngelo Williams
Terrence Newman
AJ Green
Terrell Suggs
Leodis McKelvin
LaRon Landry

That's just a sampling of the guys you and Deuce have either traded away or for in the last two years. If you guys want a salary cap, I'm for it, but please spare me the righteous indignation like you're somehow above this sort of thing. At least when someone like BigAT complains about it, it doesn't come across as hypocrisy. If that comes across as hostile, it was supposed to. Don't bitch about the rules we have and then also take advantage of them yourselves. If you want to make a principled stand, make it. We can change the rules either way, I'm fine with that, but at least be consistent.[/QUOTE]

Yeah I was waiting for that to be brought up.

I made one trade last year for Fitz and one trade this year for Miles/Newman. Why? Why would I do that? To keep up with teams loaded on offense? To keep up with teams trading for elite corners like they're just another scrub on the street?

Yeah that's why I did it. Like I said, it was an arms race and I got the players I thought I needed so I could win in the playoffs. Did I want to do it? No, but I felt the need to just to keep up with others.
 
[quote name='bvharris']And by the way, you've made more blockbusters than pretty much everyone in this league who isn't me the last two years, so it's kind of funny that you think you can take this weird moral high ground on the subject.[/QUOTE]

Seriously. Why are you (deuce) so against trades, when you yourself have traded away Smith, Stewart, and Williams. And you also tried to get Roddy White, so anything you say about not trading superstars comes off as hypocritical and bitter. I really have no problem with anyone in this league, but people speaking out against a trade that is fair just because they wouldn't do it, is starting to become annoying. And has anyone noticed that the only people that seem to have a problem with the trade are people who made the playoffs? Superstar and BSeti have said that the trade is fair and Cobra and damailman have both been in here and haven't said anything negative about the trade. Why is it then that people that only people that may meet BV in the playoffs are against the trade?
 
[quote name='LVPatriots']Sorry buddy, can I have a list of "These Super Teams"?[/QUOTE]

I'm the Super Team. The general idea is that because my team was already good to begin with, I shouldn't have the same opportunity to make it better that everyone else does.

I'm fine with that. If we change the rules and the result is "the Patriots are already so good, you can't make them better without exceeding the cap" the first thing I'll do is move to a different team. In fact, Doom or Deuce if you guys want the Patriots I'll happily swap with you. I just want to play the game. Part of the game for me is negotiating and making fun trades, including blockbusters. So I'll go to whatever team I can continue to try to do that.
 
Last edited by a moderator:
[quote name='Doomtime']Yeah I was waiting for that to be brought up.

I made one trade last year for Fitz and one trade this year for Miles/Newman. Why? Why would I do that? To keep up with teams loaded on offense? To keep up with teams trading for elite corners like they're just another scrub on the street?

Yeah that's why I did it. Like I said, it was an arms race and I got the players I thought I needed so I could win in the playoffs. Did I want to do it? No, but I felt the need to just to keep up with others.[/QUOTE]

Sorry, but I know for a fact that you're an intelligent guy, you know full well that the "I didn't want to but others did so I felt I had to" excuse is unmitigated bullshit. It's especially bullshit when you're one of the best players in the league. You know how much I respect you Doom, in fact I think you're probably the best member this league has, but you are wrong here and you're being ridiculous, and I respect you enough to tell you that.

Again, if you guys want a cap, I'm 100% for it. But once you make even a single one of the sort of trades that you think are "ruining the league", you lose absolutely all credibility to take the high ground against it.
 
[quote name='bvharris']Sorry, but I know for a fact that you're an intelligent guy, you know full well that the "I didn't want to but others did so I felt I had to" excuse is unmitigated bullshit. It's especially bullshit when you're one of the best players in the league. You know how much I respect you Doom, in fact I think you're probably the best member this league has, but you are wrong here and you're being ridiculous, and I respect you enough to tell you that.[/QUOTE]

Well thank you I can appreciate that. :lol:

Maybe it's the fact Thanksgiving is tomorrow and I have to deal with family.

I apologize if I rubbed anyone the wrong way, I may have come off a bit too heated there though that wasn't my intention.

All I'm saying is we should implement a salary cap for Madden 13. Again the trade is fair, I just wanted to dig into the owner's minds as to why they wanted to do so. I don't think there's anything wrong with that. GB thinks it gives him the best chance to win, and that's a good answer, I'm satisfied with that.


As far as my credibility is concerned, as long as this doesn't get out to the University, I'm fine!
 
Just popping in here on my phone as I'm sitting on this train... We'll definitely have a salary cap in Madden 13, for the record. I want people to be able to improve their teams, especially the lesser teams, but I agree with Doom and deuce here that this superstar arms race is a bit silly. And I think I can say that without being a hypocrite.

This doesn't mean I'm against the trade. It's within the rules and looks fine at first glance. Doesn't mean the rules don't need to be fixed though.
 
I personally feel that a salary cap will just make the problem larger. I still vote that we develop a trade committee to decide if a trade is fair or not.
 
When I joined this league, I would have been happy to play with Kolb, Fitz and the whole Cards' Crew exlusively. (Sure I would have prefered the Chargers or some of the other teams that opened up, but the Cards are a lot different than my usual teams)

I think this entire forum may have waited 10 minutes after I got the Cardinals, to jump me with trade requests for Patrick Peterson.

And I took a nice one, i got Brees and Porter and from what I can recall, there really wasn'y much uproar about the trade.

I guess my question is, are we trying to have an NFL league, with exact teams, with no GM power, just trading who gets traded in the NFL, and drafting once a year?

Or do we allow trading? I think we do. Who wants to trade a 77 DT for a 72 WR and a 5th rounder? Big name trades have a much more immediate and clear impact on teams (the point of trading), and I think most of the teams have participated in at least one of their own.

So whats the big deal folks?
 
[quote name='staticz']I personally feel that a salary cap will just make the problem larger. I still vote that we develop a trade committee to decide if a trade is fair or not.[/QUOTE]

The trade is fair committee of not. How would a salary cap not help? The XFN site we use now is incredibly deep and contains a salary cap.
 
[quote name='Doomtime']
All I'm saying is we should implement a salary cap for Madden 13. Again the trade is fair, I just wanted to dig into the owner's minds as to why they wanted to do so. I don't think there's anything wrong with that. GB thinks it gives him the best chance to win, and that's a good answer, I'm satisfied with that.[/QUOTE]

Well it's not hard to understand my reasoning, but I'll give it anyway. There's absolutely no way I'm trading AP if that HB didn't fall to me in the draft. Having a young, A Pot HB who I can develop is actually going to be more fun for me than having AP, even if he has bumps in the road. Meanwhile, I've been very vocal about wanting an outside threat, and after the last White deal fell through AP was pretty much the only piece I could move to get that guy (outside of McCourty, who isn't going anywhere).

It's always seemed to me that the biggest complaint with the last AP deal as well as the Samuel deal (and the tabled White deal) was that I was giving up a pu pu platter of guys and getting a superstar back. That obviously doesn't apply here, so the only remaining objection is that it's not realistic. Well, I'm under no delusions about that of course, but that's the rules so it's not grounds for not putting the trade through.

As for GB's reasoning, he'll have to explain that himself. I know he was gung ho for the package I was sending him in the old deal, and this one is unquestionably better, so it seems pretty clear-cut to me why he'd like it.
 
[quote name='LVPatriots']When I joined this league, I would have been happy to play with Kolb, Fitz and the whole Cards' Crew exlusively. (Sure I would have prefered the Chargers or some of the other teams that opened up, but the Cards are a lot different than my usual teams)

I think this entire forum may have waited 10 minutes after I got the Cardinals, to jump me with trade requests for Patrick Peterson.

And I took a nice one, i got Brees and Porter and from what I can recall, there really wasn'y much uproar about the trade.

I guess my question is, are we trying to have an NFL league, with exact teams, with no GM power, just trading who gets traded in the NFL, and drafting once a year?

Or do we allow trading? I think we do. Who wants to trade a 77 DT for a 72 WR and a 5th rounder? Big name trades have a much more immediate and clear impact on teams (the point of trading), and I think most of the teams have participated in at least one of their own.

So whats the big deal folks?[/QUOTE]

Sure trades are allowed and I don't blame you at all for taking the Brees & Porter trade.

Of course big names have more of an immediate impact, but there also needs to be some sort of penalty for making that trade. In this case much like real life, it's money. I think the implementation of a salary cap will make things a lot less stressful and I would be a lot more lenient on these trades if money was involved.
 
I think it could cause a lot of problems that we are having now, just reversed. Good teams will trade superstars to free up cap space so they can get superstars in return. It just seems like it adds a complicated facet to the league, that I'm not sure everyone would want in their recreational madden league that is mainly for fun.

If you guys don't think I understand how the cap would work, please explain it to me, I don't really know how it works.
 
[quote name='ubernes']Just popping in here on my phone as I'm sitting on this train... We'll definitely have a salary cap in Madden 13, for the record. I want people to be able to improve their teams, especially the lesser teams, but I agree with Doom and deuce here that this superstar arms race is a bit silly. And I think I can say that without being a hypocrite.
[/QUOTE]

You can say it with much more credibility. For the record, they can say it too. And I'll say it. I agree with it 100%. What I can't stand is the moralizing from people who've benefited from the system just as much as I have.

[quote name='staticz']I still vote that we develop a trade committee to decide if a trade is fair or not.[/QUOTE]

It's something I've thought about, and as I said the other day I'm warming to the idea. When you have a chance would you mind PMing uber and I with what you had in mind for how it might work?
 
I think the implementation of a salary cap will make things a lot less stressful and I would be a lot more lenient on these trades if money was involved.[/QUOTE]

I'm all for it, why not? Every Madden franchise I have ever been in besides these two has had one.

I still vote that we develop a trade committee to decide if a trade is fair or not.
It's something I've thought about, and as I said the other day I'm warming to the idea. When you have a chance would you mind PMing uber and I with what you had in mind for how it might work?
I think I forget what our current system is? Majority out of 32? Ubernes and BV? Only Veterans opinions count?

Seems like we just wait till no one objects anymore, or concedes defeat lol
Click to expand...
 
[quote name='gbpackers94']I think it could cause a lot of problems that we are having now, just reversed. Good teams will trade superstars to free up cap space so they can get superstars in return. It just seems like it adds a complicated facet to the league, that I'm not sure everyone would want in their recreational madden league that is mainly for fun.

If you guys don't think I understand how the cap would work, please explain it to me, I don't really know how it works.[/QUOTE]

You've got the gist of it, and what you described would definitely happen. I don't necessarily think that's a bad thing, but it would be a fuckton of work, everyone needs to understand that. Not only would we need to totally revamp the trading system, but we'd also need to completely change the way we do Free Agents. I know XFN has a lot of those tools, and you guys know I'm willing to put in the time to learn them.

But it can't be understated how fundamentally it would effect the league from top to bottom, so it's something we should study carefully before we rush into it. But that's fine, it'll give us something to do in the offseason! (if there is one)
 
[quote name='Doomtime']The trade is fair committee of not. How would a salary cap not help? The XFN site we use now is incredibly deep and contains a salary cap.[/QUOTE]

A salary cap adds too much complexity. Half or less of the owners post in here frequently, I personally think the ones that don't have no desire to deal with a salary cap. I spend enough time on here and on madden. To me a salary cap starts taking the fun out of the league.
 
[quote name='bvharris']You've got the gist of it, and what you described would definitely happen. I don't necessarily think that's a bad thing, but it would be a fuckton of work, everyone needs to understand that. Not only would we need to totally revamp the trading system, but we'd also need to completely change the way we do Free Agents. I know XFN has a lot of those tools, and you guys know I'm willing to put in the time to learn them.

But it can't be understated how fundamentally it would effect the league from top to bottom, so it's something we should study carefully before we rush into it. But that's fine, it'll give us something to do in the offseason! (if there is one)[/QUOTE]

I'll be around to help as well. There are so many features the XFN site has that we aren't using.
 
[quote name='LVPatriots']

I'm all for it, why not? Every Madden franchise I have ever been in besides these two has had one.[/QUOTE]

How was it done in those leagues if you don't mind me asking? Did they have a site similar to XFN?

[quote name='BSETI50']what is this xfn site that you speak of[/QUOTE]

http://xtreme-football.net/CAG
 
[quote name='staticz']A salary cap adds too much complexity. Half or less of the owners post in here frequently, I personally think the ones that don't have no desire to deal with a salary cap. I spend enough time on here and on madden. To me a salary cap starts taking the fun out of the league.[/QUOTE]

Aren't those probably the same users who are less interested in making these megadeals anyway?

I definitely think this: If we have a salary cap, it should not be so restrictive that people who just want to come in and play their games with the team they have are inconvenienced by it in any way. It should only be there to make people consider it when they're trying to make trades and build their rosters.

My fundamental belief as co-commish is and has always been that everyone in this league should have fun and get out of it what they want to. I wouldn't support anything that alienated any of our more casual members. We need to strike a balance between catering to those folk and to those of us who have nothing better to do than spend our days in this thread yelling at each other. ;)
 
[quote name='Doomtime']How was it done in those leagues if you don't mind me asking? Did they have a site similar to XFN?

Mind you asking!! How could you?

Lol, all I meant was that in all of the non-online franchises in Madden I've played, you have to deal with the cap. But the computer does ALL of the Work
 
[quote name='Doomtime']I love nothing more than reading text yelling directed at me![/QUOTE]

Once you graduate you'll find that it's a great way to work off steam during the work day. It's not just my role as commish that leads me to insert myself into every argument we have in here. ;)
 
maybe it was the traffic on the beltway but i actually cooled off a lil bit before i walked into the house so *takes a deep breath*:

#1. Cut the hostility.
#2. Yes, i made plenty of trades so let's address them:

Steve Smith was traded FOR a 1st rd pick that i did not intend to trade when i got it. I was looking for a CB and felt that I could win without Smitty so he became expendable. At a whopping 88 OVR, he isnt on the same level as Roddy White or Adrian Peterson... scrap that argument.

I traded DWill and the aformentioned 1st rd pick for AJ Green and Cedric Benson... i saw that with the pick i had acquired, i would not get the shut down corner i was looking for in the draft so I got a younger, more physical receiver and a RB that i have used before and am comfortable with. Again, with an overall of 88... he's no AP. Scrap that argument.

Last year's Madden... the ONLY trade that anyone could consider a blockbuster was Suggs and D. Landry for L. Landry and D. Thomas... here's the catch... i find it hard to believe anyone would deem that trade unfair.

I also traded a very low 1st, and 3rd for an aging Steve Smith just to give my offense some speed.... when Stallworth is my only offensive weapon with a speed over 89, yea... i'm looking to make moves.

I traded Ed Reed when he had dropped a few points after I acquired a Safety via the draft that did everything Reed did, but was younger and did more damage when he hit players. I flipped Reed into Leodis McKelvin and a pick because a deal i had for Johnathan Joseph was undercut. You want to call this unfair, fine... i'll accept that.


Thru all of that, none of the trades i made caused much of a stir not because it was me trading, but because they were FAIR to both teams. My issue with you're trades BV... they favor one side a lil too much. I make no secret that i dont like trading HIGH 90s... but i HATE nonsensical trades. You call it hypocrisy but i've been following the same logic for all my years playing in Madden leagues.

Yes, GB, i tried to get Roddy White... but i offered you one of the best players on my defense, my 2nd best WR, and my 1st rd pick to get him. I was still trading Smitty had i got Roddy White. Forgive me if i have trouble seeing how a good corner (not great, not elite) compensates for an elite receiver.... if you cant pass, why arent you trading Roddy for better O-Linemen instead of a WR? Ras-I Dowling is good but so was Dunta Robinson... they cancelled each other out and it really boiled don to White vs. Dowling... sorry, thats not a fair trade.
 
[quote name='LVPatriots']

Mind you asking!! How could you?

Lol, all I meant was that in all of the non-online franchises in Madden I've played, you have to deal with the cap. But the computer does ALL of the Work[/QUOTE]

lol intrigued for nothing!
 
I'm going to post a game recap, a draft recap, and a trade block within the next 30 minutes.

Game recap:
Falcons 14 @ Titans 17

Game started off as a defensive battle, but the Titans offense heated up near the end of the second quarter, scoring on a 20 yard CJ2k run and capitalizing on a FG as time expired due to a Matt Ryan pick. Coming out to start the second half the Falcons moved down the field and scored on 36yd Julio Jones catch. Not much else happened until the beginning of the 4th, when CJ2k broke a 90yd TD run after the Falcons pinned the Titans inside their own 10. Not giving up, the Falcons marched down the field and scored on a 44yd Harry Douglas catch, getting the Falcons within 3 with under 2 minutes left. Here is where the Falcons lost the game. They lined up in normal kickoff formation planning to do a surprise onside kick but the coach accidentally told Matt Bryant to press B the first time and A the second time resulting in a short kickoff which allowed the Titans to run out the clock and win the game.

ATL Stats:
Matt Ryan= 5/15 123 yards 2TD 3INT
Michael Turner= 21att 145 yards
Juwuan Sales= 3 rcpt 43 yards
Julio Jones= 1 rcpt 36 yards 1TD
Harry Douglas= 1 rcpt 44 yards 1TD
Corey Peters= 2 sacks
Curtis Lofton= 4 tackles 1INT

Good game BSETI, I couldn't pass at all against you.
 
[quote name='bvharris']Once you graduate you'll find that it's a great way to work off steam during the work day. It's not just my role as commish that leads me to insert myself into every argument we have in here. ;)[/QUOTE]

Good to know.

The only way I see that we can bypass the salary cap is if EA completely revamps and fixes their fucking progression system especially on A potential players.

Again less stress but we all know EA isn't capable of doing that.
 
and for the record... i stayed pretty much mum on the Samuel deal cuz i felt it was fair enough... i said nothing about the Freeman deal, Ray Rice deal and most other deals put out there so for BV to comment on me "bitching" every time a trade is thrown out there is innaccurate and i dont appreciate being addressed in that fashion. I spoke out on the trades i felt were unbalanced. I never said no, you cant have so and so. I said it wasnt fair to one side or the other... rework the fucking deal and propose it again....isnt that what the fucking system is for? get thte fuck out your feelings about having someone disagree with you and do like everyone else... u want the guy, find a deal that satisfies the leage instead of sticking to what u originated just cuz it's what u like. For fuck's sake, everyone can comment on a trade, dont get upset with me becuase i exercise my right as a league member.
 
[quote name='Deuce20602']
Thru all of that, none of the trades i made caused much of a stir not because it was me trading, but because they were FAIR to both teams. My issue with you're trades BV... they favor one side a lil too much. I make no secret that i dont like trading HIGH 90s... but i HATE nonsensical trades. You call it hypocrisy but i've been following the same logic for all my years playing in Madden leagues. [/QUOTE]

I disagree with the bolded part. You complain about my trades (specifically the AP deal and the White deal) more than anyone else, so the fact that there was no one playing that role for your trades doubtless plays a role.

The trades I've made have all been fair to both teams. If they weren't, they wouldn't have passed. None of them went through just on my say-so. The first AP deal was deemed fair. The Samuel deal I was asked to sub in a player, I did, and then it was deemed fair. The first White deal was deemed unfair, it didn't go through.

You don't think they were fair. You're entitled to that opinion, so is anyone who has it. Those trades had their day in court, and the "they're unfair!" side lost. They were deemed fair, they passed, it's over. It's time for you to let it go.
 
[quote name='Deuce20602']and for the record... i stayed pretty much mum on the Samuel deal cuz i felt it was fair enough... i said nothing about the Freeman deal, Ray Rice deal and most other deals put out there so for BV to comment on me "bitching" every time a trade is thrown out there is innaccurate and i dont appreciate being addressed in that fashion.[/QUOTE]

I don't care if you appreciate it or not quite frankly. I think your stance on this is beyond hypocritical, and I said so. If you have a problem with that, I don't blame you. Doesn't change anything.

And come on, don't be the one to accuse me of getting my feelings involved in the same post in which you drop four fuck-bombs. I've never denied that sometimes I get personally invested in these things, probably more than I should. But pot, meet kettle.
 
[quote name='gbpackers94']I'm going to post a game recap, a draft recap, and a trade block within the next 30 minutes.

Game recap:
Falcons 14 @ Titans 17

Game started off as a defensive battle, but the Titans offense heated up near the end of the second quarter, scoring on a 20 yard CJ2k run and capitalizing on a FG as time expired due to a Matt Ryan pick. Coming out to start the second half the Falcons moved down the field and scored on 36yd Julio Jones catch. Not much else happened until the beginning of the 4th, when CJ2k broke a 90yd TD run after the Falcons pinned the Titans inside their own 10. Not giving up, the Falcons marched down the field and scored on a 44yd Harry Douglas catch, getting the Falcons within 3 with under 2 minutes left. Here is where the Falcons lost the game. They lined up in normal kickoff formation planning to do a surprise onside kick but the coach accidentally told Matt Bryant to press B the first time and A the second time resulting in a short kickoff which allowed the Titans to run out the clock and win the game.

ATL Stats:
Matt Ryan= 5/15 123 yards 2TD 3INT
Michael Turner= 21att 145 yards
Juwuan Sales= 3 rcpt 43 yards
Julio Jones= 1 rcpt 36 yards 1TD
Harry Douglas= 1 rcpt 44 yards 1TD
Corey Peters= 2 sacks
Curtis Lofton= 4 tackles 1INT

Good game BSETI, I couldn't pass at all against you.[/QUOTE]


yea great game...i thought the surprise onside was comin for sure too...cj2k is crazy shifty, ive been playing a lot more with power backs but hes woodhead on roids. locker sketches me out a bit, hes only a 78 after one year i thought he'd be better but i guess whoever had the titans didnt start him or somethin.

look out for my rookie MLB ikeem smith...beast

i done have much to trade but i am in the market for some offensive lineman, and possibly a wide reciever. all you trade nuts out there take a look
 
i had let it go... go back and check the thread. once a final decision is passed down, there's no reason for me to comment. i voiced my disapproval and left it at that until a decision was made just like u defended ur position until a decision was made. there was a new trade put out there, i commented. You decided me speaking out was a direct attack on you trading and went on your lil bitch rant. if i feel a trade is unfair, i speak up. if i think it's fair, i say nothing. u dont want me to speak on a trade, dont make one... thats the only way to guarantee i stay quiet. good day sir
 
[quote name='Deuce20602'] I feel like the longer this stuff goes on, more people are gonna lose interest because they just can't be competitive against these "super" teams.[/QUOTE]


I donno..the 1-15 Dolphins Sure shook up the league after Kniocking off the AFC East Champs(the "stacked" team.....) Last night....
 
[quote name='BSETI50']yea great game...i thought the surprise onside was comin for sure too...cj2k is crazy shifty, ive been playing a lot more with power backs but hes woodhead on roids. locker sketches me out a bit, hes only a 78 after one year i thought he'd be better but i guess whoever had the titans didnt start him or somethin.

look out for my rookie MLB ikeem smith...beast

i done have much to trade but i am in the market for some offensive lineman, and possibly a wide reciever. all you trade nuts out there take a look[/QUOTE]

He played the last few games but Hasselbeck played the majority of the season. Did he retire?

Sadly, we won't get to play each other unless it's in the postseason. Would love to have a Charles-CJ2K matchup.
 
[quote name='siradam134']I donno..the 1-15 Dolphins Sure shook up the league after Kniocking off the AFC East Champs(the "stacked" team.....) Last night....[/QUOTE]

Congrats again... i happen to know you're not a slouch on the sticks so it comes as no surprise that you're back to winning games.
 
Deuce, I want you to weigh in on every single trade. I want you to shout your opinion from the rafters. If you think a trade is unfair, I want you to fight it tooth and nail.

But what I'm not going to let slide is you getting high and mighty about there being too many superstars changing hands when you've traded more big names than anybody. You stand by every single trade you've made, and I stand by mine. Only difference is, even if I agree that too many stars changing hands is a problem (which I don't, but I'm fine with going with the majority), I'm not going to act like I'm not a part of what got us here.
 
[quote name='siradam134']I donno..the 1-15 Dolphins Sure shook up the league after Kniocking off the AFC East Champs(the "stacked" team.....) Last night....[/QUOTE]

And the Dolphins owner tried to sabotage my season as the temporary owner of the Broncos. Not cool making fumbles warp like that! :fridge:
 
[quote name='bvharris']And come on, don't be the one to accuse me of getting my feelings involved in the same post in which you drop four fuck-bombs. I've never denied that sometimes I get personally invested in these things, probably more than I should. But pot, meet kettle.[/QUOTE]

i just like saying fuck... nothing more, nothing less. i try to keep everything clean and cordial but when u wanna make things personal, all that goes out the window. So since u dont care about offending people, i'm not giving a flying fuck. i will gladly embrace the role of your personal antagonist :D
 
[quote name='Doomtime']He played the last few games but Hasselbeck played the majority of the season. Did he retire?

Sadly, we won't get to play each other unless it's in the postseason. Would love to have a Charles-CJ2K matchup.[/QUOTE]

hassellback is still not bad at an 84, i need to start running with locker for short gains a little bit instead of forcing the tom brady throws that he just cant make. hasselback will be my backup until he retires, i dont trust locker not getting injured at least once.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
bread's done
Back
Top