Madden 12 League-OFFICIAL CAG LEAGUE-Week 3 live. Deadline Monday night.

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[quote name='RamesuThe1']*Trade Alert*

The future is now in Houston! (pending league review)

The Texans and Jaguars have agreed to a trade that sends Matt Schaub to Jacksonville for the Jags' 1st and 3rd round picks in the coming draft.

Jags send: 1st round and 3rd round picks
Texans send: Matt Schaub, QB, 31, 88 overall, A potential.[/QUOTE]

I see that you drafted a 74 ovr, B pot QB. He will probably be ~80 by next season, so you aren't losing much at the QB position. That being said I think the trade is fair enough: Shcaub is old, and will probably starting regressing soon, so a 1st and 3rd seems fair enough.
 
I'm still trying to get things set up with the Cardinals. He messaged earlier, but I was away. I was hoping he'd be around tonight, but haven't heard anything in PMs. I'm free tomorrow late afternoon and night though. Will try to be around a bit tonight too, but don't know since I haven't heard anything.
 
how am i going to get kicked from my team, the kid playing for the bills shoul be kicked for using no huddle starting in first, I got booted from the servers after i picked field goal block, and couldnt get back on figured he would hit eng game count. Someone needs to talk to pitfallharry of the Bills about his no huddle escapades thruoghout the game.
 
[quote name='ubernes']In the unsexy trade news....

TRADE ALERT
Philadelphia trades...
WR - Jason Avant (77 OVR, 30 years old, ? pot)

New York Jets trades....
RT - Vlad Ducasse (72 OVR, 26 years old, C pot)

A bit of a depth for depth move here. Vlad would be starting for me if it wasn't for the rookie RT, but WR is so thin right now I had to make at least a minor move here to shore it up while both my #2 WR Burress and my #3 Kilgo are out injured. Thoughts?[/QUOTE]

The Jets trade looks fine though you could throw in a scrubby player or draft pick if you wanted to really even it out since Avant is a B potential. Eh either way, it's fine

The Texans trade, not sure if a 1st and 3rd is enough to land a player like Schaub. He's no scrub.
 
[quote name='DVO21']32 ISNT OLD FOR A qb though they stay at the same rank at that age[/QUOTE]

You start seeing regression in skill positions around 34ish
 
Doomtime you know better than all, i can take a loss, even if it was 45-3, idk wtf happened, it froze up after play selection, i tried to connect back to madden servers and nothing, i just signed in idk why i have a win.
 
[quote name='Og whitewidow']Doomtime you know better than all, i can take a loss, even if it was 45-3, idk wtf happened, it froze up after play selection, i tried to connect back to madden servers and nothing, i just signed in idk why i have a win.[/QUOTE]

Well, it looked awfully suspiscious. In the future, just check into the thread when something like that happens so we can get it sorted. If a disconnect really happened then it happened. And yeah I know you can take a loss. You have to see from our perspective though, a game disconnects at the last second and you don't check in, it looks bad on your part.

And yeah I just noticed, the Colts have a win over the Bills now 13-0. He must have played the CPU and lost. Forgot about the CPU game.
 
[quote name='Doomtime']
The Texans trade, not sure if a 1st and 3rd is enough to land a player like Schaub. He's no scrub.[/QUOTE]

I disagree. A first and third is the requirement for a 'franchise' player irl so this seems pretty fair to me.
 
[quote name='Og whitewidow']i should have it was late, i threw in duty to see if it was my connection, it wasn't...it was server based.[/QUOTE]

Well next time just check in and there won't be a problem. Seems to be resolved now anyway. Sorry for the accusation. It looked odd so I apologize.
 
[quote name='Og whitewidow']Also if someone could talk to Bills owner about using hurry up, in non hurry up situations with a full set of timeouts to burn.[/QUOTE]

How often are we talking here? Once in a while is fine but not constantly. What was the situation?
 
schaub is only an 88 overall it isnt like he is overly dominant in the game i think this trade is fair just waitin for the offical yes or no
 
Some teams randomly use a hurry up offense to get a spark going. Obviously you don't use it the majority of the game, though.
 
[quote name='RamesuThe1']*Trade Alert*

The future is now in Houston! (pending league review)

The Texans and Jaguars have agreed to a trade that sends Matt Schaub to Jacksonville for the Jags' 1st and 3rd round picks in the coming draft.

Jags send: 1st round and 3rd round picks
Texans send: Matt Schaub, QB, 31, 88 overall, A potential.[/QUOTE]

i think a 1st and 3rd is sufficient. Schaub is no slouch but considering his age, and his not so strong arm, I would've been reluctant to give up a 1st for him. In all honesty, i think a 1st by itself would've been good enough
 
[quote name='DVO21']schaub is only an 88 overall it isnt like he is overly dominant in the game i think this trade is fair just waitin for the offical yes or no[/QUOTE]

Of course you think the trade is fair, you're involved in it.
 
[quote name='Deuce20602']i think a 1st and 3rd is sufficient. Schaub is no slouch but considering his age, and his not so strong arm, I would've been reluctant to give up a 1st for him. In all honesty, i think a 1st by itself would've been good enough[/QUOTE]

Smoking too much Cam kush my amigo. :lol:

If that 1st was guaranteed top 5, maybe, just maybe. But since we can't see the prospects I don't know about that. Then again, I'm not a fan of rookies anyway.
 
[quote name='Doomtime']Smoking too much Cam kush my amigo. :lol:

If that 1st was guaranteed top 5, maybe, just maybe. But since we can't see the prospects I don't know about that. Then again, I'm not a fan of rookies anyway.[/QUOTE]

Sure you can! I still stand by the fact a player with a franchise tag can be traded for a 1st and a 3rd....making the highest paid players in the league only worth a first and third at most.
 
This is a pretty similar trade to what me and Deuce did last year. I traded Steve Smith (Panthers) for a 1st and 3rd round pick, and he was around 31/32ish and high 80s. So for the purpose of consistency...I'd say it should be put through (I DO think it actually is a fair trade too though). QBs probably generally do a little better regression-wise (they don't go down as much) as WRs, but Steve Smith was one of those receivers who didn't really go down at all and actually maintained his speed throughout the franchise too.
 
[quote name='staticz']Sure you can! I still stand by the fact a player with a franchise tag can be traded for a 1st and a 3rd....making the highest paid players in the league only worth a first and third at most.[/QUOTE]

Forgot about that site, looking at it now. One A potential QB this time around.

Anyway, so you're saying Vick is worth a 1st and 3rd as well?
 
[quote name='Doomtime']Forgot about that site, looking at it now. One A potential QB this time around.

Anyway, so you're saying Vick is worth a 1st and 3rd as well?[/QUOTE]

I wouldn't give up more than a 1st and a 3rd for any player in the league...that was pretty much what I gave up for Freeman and Rice.

So yeah...I guess that is What he's worth too me. Most of the rookies are stout in the draft, just lack in awareness. I feel like you can get a lot of value out of those picks. My 3rd round pick is my leading WR.
 
[quote name='MasterAwesome']This is a pretty similar trade to what me and Deuce did last year. I traded Steve Smith (Panthers) for a 1st and 3rd round pick, and he was around 31/32ish and high 80s. So for the purpose of consistency...I'd say it should be put through (I DO think it actually is a fair trade too though). QBs probably generally do a little better regression-wise (they don't go down as much) as WRs, but Steve Smith was one of those receivers who didn't really go down at all and actually maintained his speed throughout the franchise too.[/QUOTE]

I traded Dunta Robinson (89, 29, A) for just a 1st last year.
 
trade talks have been made
jags send mjd 97 ovr 27 a
2nd rd pick
lions mike williams 91 ovr 25 a
mike leshoure 81 ovr 23 a pot
 
[quote name='sprice8688']trade talks have been made
jags send mjd 97 ovr 27 a
2nd rd pick
lions mike williams 91 ovr 25 a
mike leshoure 81 ovr 23 a pot[/QUOTE]

IDK about this. The second seems unnecessary.
 
[quote name='staticz']I wouldn't give up more than a 1st and a 3rd for any player in the league...that was pretty much what I gave up for Freeman and Rice.

So yeah...I guess that is What he's worth too me. Most of the rookies are stout in the draft, just lack in awareness.[/QUOTE]

You gave up more than 1st and 3rd comparable players for Freeman/Rice. No way some of the elite players are worth just a 1st and a 3rd. There's at least gotta be something else thrown in there. Though true, there are some very talented rookies in the draft.
 
[quote name='sprice8688']trade talks have been made
jags send mjd 97 ovr age27 a
2nd rd pick
lions mike williams 91 ovr age25 a
mike leshoure 81 ovr age23 a pot[/QUOTE]

just putting age in there
 
Am ready for the draft the rams just plain suck! So many times i could converted but the WR would drop the ball or somethin would happen...
 
[quote name='Doomtime']You gave up more than 1st and 3rd comparable players for Freeman/Rice. No way some of the elite players are worth just a 1st and a 3rd. There's at least gotta be something else thrown in there. Though true, there are some very talented rookies in the draft.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I would give my whole draft + Matt Ryan for Aaron Rodgers.
 
[quote name='gbpackers94']Yeah, I would give my whole draft + Matt Ryan for Aaron Rodgers.[/QUOTE]

:lol: Yeah so would I. Plus a Subway giftcard.
 
[quote name='Doomtime']You gave up more than 1st and 3rd comparable players for Freeman/Rice. No way some of the elite players are worth just a 1st and a 3rd. There's at least gotta be something else thrown in there. Though true, there are some very talented rookies in the draft.[/QUOTE]

I also got two starting LBs.
 
[quote name='Superstar']Some teams randomly use a hurry up offense to get a spark going. Obviously you don't use it the majority of the game, though.[/QUOTE]

The Raiders ran hurry up against me every time they picked up a 1st down passing, and pretty often throughout the game too. I don't really mind it, there's more than enough time to audible to a good call.

I'll take a look at all the trades tomorrow.
 
[quote name='gbpackers94']Somone do a trade with me. Anyone trying to trade a MLB or SS?[/QUOTE]


Yeremiah Bell is on the trading block. (Lofu's hurt...just realized i lost him.)
 
i wanna see the review post of the williams leshoure for mjd abd 2nd rd pick trade... im 50 50 on it but would like to get reviews
 
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[quote name='siradam134']Yeremiah Bell is on the trading block. (Lofu's hurt...just realized i lost him.)[/QUOTE]

Not really what I'm looking for, sorry! (really looking for an elite MLB, and I thought William Moore was injured but Brent Grimes is the injured one, so I don't need a SS)
 
[quote name='Doomtime']Smoking too much Cam kush my amigo. :lol:[/QUOTE]

nah lol... i just dont think Schaub is actually worth that 88 rating...
 
[quote name='sprice8688']i wanna see the review post of the williams leshoure for mjd abd 2nd rd pick trade... im 50 50 on it but would like to get reviews[/QUOTE]

Both are A potential players? I don't know yet. At first glance it looks ok, but it's MJD. Gotta think
 
Just for the Record..... Daniel Thomas and Brandon Marshall are not being traded straight across.....for ANYBODY...Let alone for one player. you've got to be losing your mind if you think i'd make a deal like this.
 
[quote name='siradam134']Just for the Record..... Daniel Thomas and Brandon Marshall are not being traded straight across.....for ANYBODY...Let alone for one player. you've got to be losing your mind if you think i'd make a deal like this.[/QUOTE]

So you're saying you would not trade Daniel Thomas for a 4th round pick? Ignore that last pm then ;)
 
[quote name='Doomtime']Both are A potential players? I don't know yet. At first glance it looks ok, but it's MJD. Gotta think[/QUOTE]

yea both are a players
 
[quote name='ubernes']In the unsexy trade news....

TRADE ALERT
Philadelphia trades...
WR - Jason Avant (77 OVR, 30 years old, ? pot)

New York Jets trades....
RT - Vlad Ducasse (72 OVR, 26 years old, C pot)

A bit of a depth for depth move here. Vlad would be starting for me if it wasn't for the rookie RT, but WR is so thin right now I had to make at least a minor move here to shore it up while both my #2 WR Burress and my #3 Kilgo are out injured. Thoughts?[/QUOTE]

Here you go.
 
[quote name='RamesuThe1']*Trade Alert*

The future is now in Houston! (pending league review)

The Texans and Jaguars have agreed to a trade that sends Matt Schaub to Jacksonville for the Jags' 1st and 3rd round picks in the coming draft.

Jags send: 1st round and 3rd round picks
Texans send: Matt Schaub, QB, 31, 88 overall, A potential.[/QUOTE]



Originally Posted by sprice8688
trade talks have been made
jags send mjd 97 ovr age27 a
2nd rd pick
lions mike williams 91 ovr age25 a
mike leshoure 81 ovr age23 a pot

here are the other two trades
 
Eagles/Jets trade - I don't really understand the reasoning of this from the Eagles' perspective. Yeah, Avant is nothing special, but trading him leaves them with only 4 WRs on the roster, pretty damned susceptible to injury. Meanwhile, they already have two RT who are higher rated than Ducasse, and even though he's 26, since he's C Pot he's not really likely to go up. I'm not saying I'd reject it out of hand, but I'd like to hear Pacer's reasoning (apologies if he's already given it).

Texans/Jags trade - My concern with this is the same that I think some people have already voiced. The Jags are already 0-4, and that 1st round pick could very well be a top 10 selection. I'm also surprised either side would want to make this deal within the division. Then again, this is not outside of what the market is for solid NFL quarterbacks in real life (look what the Bengals got for Palmer). I guess I'd lean towards approving it, though I'd want to make sure both sides really thought it through.

Lions/Jags trade - I agree with whoever said I don't really understand the 2nd round pick going back. I guess this move makes sense in the context of the previous one, if the Jags are trying to remake themselves as a passing team.

Here's my overriding concern with the last two trades: DVO, you're new to the league. So in order to approve these we're going to need at the very least a strong commitment from you that you're in this league for the long haul. If you were to leave the league after this season, you'd be leaving the next Jags owner with a very strange looking roster, and more importantly, no picks in the first 3 rounds of the draft.
 
[quote name='bvharris']Eagles/Jets trade - I don't really understand the reasoning of this from the Eagles' perspective. Yeah, Avant is nothing special, but trading him leaves them with only 4 WRs on the roster, pretty damned susceptible to injury. Meanwhile, they already have two RT who are higher rated than Ducasse, and even though he's 26, since he's C Pot he's not really likely to go up. I'm not saying I'd reject it out of hand, but I'd like to hear Pacer's reasoning (apologies if he's already given it).

Texans/Jags trade - My concern with this is the same that I think some people have already voiced. The Jags are already 0-4, and that 1st round pick could very well be a top 10 selection. I'm also surprised either side would want to make this deal within the division. Then again, this is not outside of what the market is for solid NFL quarterbacks in real life (look what the Bengals got for Palmer). I guess I'd lean towards approving it, though I'd want to make sure both sides really thought it through.

Lions/Jags trade - I agree with whoever said I don't really understand the 2nd round pick going back. I guess this move makes sense in the context of the previous one, if the Jags are trying to remake themselves as a passing team.

Here's my overriding concern with the last two trades: DVO, you're new to the league. So in order to approve these we're going to need at the very least a strong commitment from you that you're in this league for the long haul. If you were to leave the league after this season, you'd be leaving the next Jags owner with a very strange looking roster, and more importantly, no picks in the first 3 rounds of the draft.[/QUOTE]


bro im not going anywhere im here to play i just got back from afgansitan so i wont be going back for like 18 months or longer so u dont have to worry about me wondering off from the league i plan on staying in this leagues for years to come if im welcomed back
 
[quote name='PacerPerspect']My deal with Uber is depth for depth. I like to cycle in fresh DTs and I have a young WR to fill the third role.[/QUOTE]

Ducasse is a RT, not a DT...

[quote name='DVO21']bro im not going anywhere im here to play i just got back from afgansitan so i wont be going back for like 18 months or longer so u dont have to worry about me wondering off from the league i plan on staying in this leagues for years to come if im welcomed back[/QUOTE]

Don't take it personally, we've had people leave the league after making big trades before. It's something we're always vigilant for with new people, it's not specific to you.
 
[quote name='bvharris']Lions/Jags trade - I agree with whoever said I don't really understand the 2nd round pick going back. I guess this move makes sense in the context of the previous one, if the Jags are trying to remake themselves as a passing team.
[/QUOTE]

I can .kind. of understand the 2nd round going back. Next season Leshoure will be an 87/88 OVR A Potential....and Mike Williams will be a 95/96/97 Ovr A Potential(this guys a Brandon Marshall copy)... a 2nd round pick is ONLY fair to include with MJD.

now on to my biggest complaint:D

Maurice Jones-Drew is arguably a top 5 runningback in madden this year. The PASS defense in madden this year is alot tougher than previous years. Instead of giving up on the run game... (EVERY TIME that players in this league are going to play you..you can guarantee they will only worry about stopping one thing... the pass. You won't have a great running back to "balance out" both sides of the ball...)....

Why not keep Maurice Jones Drew....change your play calling up.....and give him a shot for a while;)

The only reason i'm at all harping on this.......

Let's take a look at three of the teams you've played this year and where they ranked in regards to Rush Defense last season in this league:

Texans #3
Steelers #5
Ravens #7

You played 3 of the toughest run stopping defenses in the league in the first 4 games of your season!

MJD had 1500 yards last year. He's the best player on your team...for a reason.

Give the guy a chance!!

P.s.... I was horrible running the ball last year. just disgraceful. I practiced and practiced....and i now have a nice 50/50 or maybe 60/40 running/passing game. It really helps me gameplan...because i don't have to rely on just one thing to help me win.

*steps down from the soapbox*
 
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