Madden 12 League-OFFICIAL CAG LEAGUE-Week 3 live. Deadline Monday night.

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Alright. I'm going to put all the trades in the OP and also process them in-game.

The only trade which is not approved yet is the Jags/Lions MJD trade.

Edit: The Vince Young trade is actually already in the OP, it looks like it was just never put through in-game. I'll do that now.
 
I think all of the drops make up for a lack of animations. If you watch CBs a lot of them dive in front of the WR to swat the ball away and I don't think Madden can replicate that quite yet. Because of that I believe they are using the animations they have and just lowering the probability of an INT.

If the animations were there we probably wouldn't think that they're weren't enough INTs.
 
Yeah I think that's what it is. I'm just tired of seeing the ball bobbled between three defenders like it's a hot potato. EA can do better then that
 
[quote name='staticz']I think all of the drops make up for a lack of animations. If you watch CBs a lot of them dive in front of the WR to swat the ball away and I don't think Madden can replicate that quite yet..[/QUOTE]

I seem to remember a few of your DBs doing just that in the Eagles-Cardinals game over the weekend. ;)

[quote name='Doomtime']EA can do better then that[/QUOTE]

Really? I've seen no evidence that they can. :lol:
 
Animations?
Hit A or LB to swat at the ball.

I donno I go for the user pick everytime, sometimes it burns me but I feel if u don't try ur just handicappin ursself
 
[quote name='bvharris']I seem to remember a few of your DBs doing just that in the Eagles-Cardinals game over the weekend. ;)



Really? I've seen no evidence that they can. :lol:[/QUOTE]

Very true. Are you guys having fun with the offline franchise? I just can't get into the barebone features compared to other games like the Show or 2K. Ever since they stripped all the features away that were in Madden 05, I've been disappointed.

And we all know what's coming anyway. The next gen leap for madden will mean a game once again lacking features (both online and offline) for the first two years. Then they'll add in stuff that's been around since Madden 04. I wouldn't be surprised if online franchise is exactly the same when we take that leap.
 
[quote name='Doomtime']Very true. Are you guys having fun with the offline franchise? I just can't get into the barebone features compared to other games like the Show or 2K. Ever since they stripped all the features away that were in Madden 05, I've been disappointed. [/QUOTE]

I mean, I've been playing it, but pretty much out of habit at this point. It does give you a chance to build pretty ridiculous rosters through the draft, which I always enjoy doing.

[quote name='Doomtime']And we all know what's coming anyway. The next gen leap for madden will mean a game once again lacking features (both online and offline) for the first two years. Then they'll add in stuff that's been around since Madden 04. I wouldn't be surprised if online franchise is exactly the same when we take that leap.[/QUOTE]

This is still a couple years out, but I can't imagine we'd switch the league right to XBox 720 or whatever. Everyone in this league already has a 360, I highly doubt we'd switch over and leave people behind. It's not like they'll stop putting out Madden for the 360.
 
Well yeah I was just saying what Madden will be when it takes that leap. The cycle won't change. I've learned my lesson being an early adopter so I'll definitely wait to purchase the new consoles.
 
only thing that id like to add to it is its 2 a players mike williams is a beast i dont like seeing him go and leshore is a power back good for wat dvo wants so we settled with the mike williams mike leshoure for mjd and his 2nd.... u wont find another wr out of.the draft that u can get 90s catch release catch in traffic spectacular catch jumping... he will hit 95 or better next season leashiure jumped 9 points and is 81 ovr 2nd yr players... now if this is put to contest with the ap deal anyway u argue it before we quit playin williams will b within points to mjd and leshoure will at least be a 87 nex season
 
Sprice, can you double-check in game and confirm Williams' and Leshoure's OVR ratings in the Depth Chart?

Edit: It has nothing to do with the AP deals besides the precedent that we spend extra time discussing deals in which superstars are changing hands.
 
In regards to the offline franchise mode...I don't undersstand how an offline game mode can be sso glitchy and faulty. Ill be in the main menu and all of the sudden I can't look at any schedules it says invalid team. They just ruined the regular franchise mode in general it fuckin sucks now dam shame
 
I don't think the 2nd round pick is necessary considering MJD is a top 5 runningback. Leshore won't reach that level for another 2 or 3 seasons at the very least.
 
[quote name='itlnstln']Paging Cru, Mr Cru, Mr Grand Cru - where you at??? Possible sub tonight???[/QUOTE]

He's got a ton of friends in this league, surely someone can get a hold of him.
 
[quote name='Doomtime']I don't think the 2nd round pick is necessary considering MJD is a top 5 runningback. Leshore won't reach that level for another 2 or 3 seasons at the very least.[/QUOTE]

That's especially true if it turns out their actual ratings are lower. I'm especially curious about Leshoure's rating, since I had other young players with similar progression who turned out to be lower rated once you look at the Depth Chart (Ras-I Dowling for example)
 
[quote name='Doomtime']Cru will be on tonight, he texted me this morning because we have to play in the fantasy league.[/QUOTE]

When are you playing him? If I can get both league games in tonight, that would be awesome.
 
[quote name='bvharris']That's especially true if it turns out their actual ratings are lower. I'm especially curious about Leshoure's rating, since I had other young players with similar progression who turned out to be lower rated once you look at the Depth Chart (Ras-I Dowling for example)[/QUOTE]

Yep you can't trust progression in this game at all. I am starting to believe injuries play a part in progression as well. Tamba Hali for example was injured for 3 or 4 games last season and he went down 3 points. Stanford Routt on the Raiders also declined because he missed half the season.
 
[quote name='itlnstln']When are you playing him? If I can get both league games in tonight, that would be awesome.[/QUOTE]

I'll try to get a hold of him now and let you know. He was waiting on a time from me because I'm about to head to class. Not sure how long class will be going today since it's the week before finals.
 
Still waiting to hear from the Cardinals about our game.

Also, if any of you that have been messaging me about Hillis were having issues I've cleared out my PM inbox now.
 
[quote name='LVPatriots']Cardinals Vs. Browns should be at 8:30 PM EST tonight.
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[quote name='Ultimate Matt X']Still waiting to hear from the Cardinals about our game.
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Sounds like you guys need to get on the same page. He seems to think it's scheduled for tonight.
 
[quote name='Ultimate Matt X']Still waiting to hear from the Cardinals about our game.

I responded to your PM yesterday...
I can play at 7:45 pm EST at the earliest.

Preferably 8:15 or later.

What do you want to do?
 
[quote name='bvharris']Doesn't DRC have like an 80 catch rating? That's better than some receivers. Asante also has an 80 (he picked off 3 passes for me in Week 2).[/QUOTE]

How about this, Asante has a tackle rating of 29 in game. Tom Brady has a higher tackle rating than him.
 
Don't get me started on Asante Samuel....that guy tackled Jermaine Gresham (I'm the Bengals in another online franchise) and ENDED HIS CAREER!!!! Fractured vertebra......him and his 29 tackle...
 
[quote name='BigAT']How about this, Asante has a tackle rating of 29 in game. Tom Brady has a higher tackle rating than him.[/QUOTE]

Wow, I've never noticed that. :D

I'm surprised I haven't noticed him having more trouble in that area. I guess he doesn't allow too many catches. My corners don't typically play much in run support anyway.
 
[quote name='siradam134']Did you do the dolphins/seahawks trade ingame yet?[/QUOTE]

No. Nor did I add it to the OP. I knew I missed one! I'll do it now.
 
[quote name='siradam134']Trade up for review:

Dolphins Send:
QB Chad Henne, 77 OVR, B Pot

Seahawks Send:
CB Byron Maxwell, 72 OVR, B Pot[/QUOTE]

Could you post their ages? (I remembered why I didn't add the trade, I forgot to ask this)
 
[quote name='Doomtime']I don't think the 2nd round pick is necessary considering MJD is a top 5 runningback. Leshore won't reach that level for another 2 or 3 seasons at the very least.[/QUOTE]

Lol I think it's a stretch to think that Leshoure will EVER reach that level or anything even close to it...I don't see him getting past the high 80's if he's lucky. Still a very solid back though...99 carry rating and very high trucking/stiff arm attributes. And despite only an 85 speed, he still has a very high acceleration (96).

Even though a solid running game seems to be more important in this Madden because of the improvements in coverage in the passing game, I still think a good wide receiver is more valuable than a good running back. Any player that's predominantly controlled by the CPU should be valued higher because their effectiveness is directly tied to that rating. You have to rely on your wide receivers to beat the coverage and get open for the catch, as well as bringing down the catch in traffic in most cases. For running backs...you can get by with a mediocre back as long as you have good blocking and can make the right reads to get through some holes. Of course Jones-Drew is ELITE and will occasionally make some plays that other backs can't...but I think Mike Williams overall is a bigger asset to the team. I'm not saying that Jones-Drew for Williams would necessarily be a fair trade, but in my opinion, people are underestimating the worth of an elite receiver and overestimating the worth of an elite running back.

Call me crazy, but I think Jones-Drew is pretty overrated anyways. Keep in mind that we're talking about a 97 OVR player here...so I'm not saying Jones-Drew isn't GREAT, just saying that I'm expecting a DAMN amazing player. Jones-Drew and Peterson are both 97 OVR...I don't think anyone in their right mind would rather have Jones-Drew over Peterson. If you're asking for Mike Williams and Mikel Leshoure's depth chart ratings, you should probably get Jones-Drew's too...I would be surprised if he was actually a 97. It seems unnecessary to have a player like Jones-Drew and Peterson who can seemingly do it all...juke, stiff arm, truck, spin...on a run play, does anyone actually think "OK I'm gonna spin away from this tackle, juke that guy straight ahead, stiff arm the defender coming from the side..." or do you just generally have a go-to button you press when you're about to get tackled?? Maybe it's just cause I have 3 power backs on my team...but I just spam A (stiff arm) every time I see a defender getting close to me to make the tackle. No matter if a player is coming from behind, the side, or in front...stiff arm is effective no matter what (assuming it's just one defender).

So that's why I think it's a fair trade...thanks for everyone's time.
 
[quote name='MasterAwesome']If you're asking for Mike Williams and Mikel Leshoure's depth chart ratings, you should probably get Jones-Drew's too...I would be surprised if he was actually a 97.[/QUOTE]

Good point. I want them all. The only reason I didn't mention MJD is that guys who are that high generally only go down a point or two between the two. Whereas young players who are upcoming seem more likely to be much higher in Player Management than in Depth (I have several on my team who fit that profile).

I know it's extra work, but I've said before that we really need everybody to post Depth Chart ratings for these trades. That's the only way we'll all have enough info to fairly evaluate them.
 
Old news but I don't think Widow would have quit before that field goal on purpose, he can take a loss.

However, since he didn't voice any opinions or respond on CAG in any kind of reasonable time frame. It makes sense for you guys to give him a strike for that.
He must have known a convo would start immediately on here, it is his fault for not getting on and explaining what happened.

That blows that his opponent lost to the CPU. I think with Orlovsky as well...


Still waiting on the Browns owner, that's two pm's I've sent and a post on the thread almost immidiately below his post.
 
[quote name='gbpackers94']Is email the best way to reach zurezo? I have an interesting proposal for him.[/QUOTE]

Yes. You can also reach him through me. (Not really, I'm just curious what the interesting proposal is).

[quote name='ballhawk20']What time are we advancing???[/QUOTE]

If all goes according to plan, we'll be advancing around 9:30PM EST. As for whether all goes according to plan, well, let's hope!
 
[quote name='bvharris']Yes. You can also reach him through me. (Not really, I'm just curious what the interesting proposal is).



If all goes according to plan, we'll be advancing around 9:30PM EST. As for whether all goes according to plan, well, let's hope![/QUOTE]

:lol: Nothing big, just trading depth for depth basically. I have no idea if he will accept though.
 
[quote name='gbpackers94']:lol: Nothing big, just trading depth for depth basically. I have no idea if he will accept though.[/QUOTE]

Don't be tossing around the word "interesting" so nonchalantly! :D

Now that I'm mostly done trading for the year, I've got nothing to do but live vicariously through the rest of you.
 
[quote name='Doomtime']UMX said he just replied. Should be set[/QUOTE]

Alright, that should be the last game. I'll have LV call/text me when it's done and I'll hop on and advance us.
 
[quote name='bvharris']Don't be tossing around the word "interesting" so nonchalantly! :D

Now that I'm mostly done trading for the year, I've got nothing to do but live vicariously through the rest of you.[/QUOTE]

Well it's interesting to me! :cool:
 
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