[quote name='Tha Xecutioner']Time for me to swoop in and save the day with my mediating wall-o-text!
One of the best things about Mass Effect (in my opinion) usually turns out to be the very thing that makes it difficult to discuss amongst a large following of ME fans, and that is: Mass Effect's success at making the game unique to the player. It's easy to discuss games that are a lot less customizable and personal and that are more linear, because everyone can agree (for the most part) about what the game is and what it represents. When you start diving into RPG discussions (
especially with Mass Effect) you lose the idea that everyone has a similar experience with the game, and that results in opinions that are scattered all across the board.
Mass Effect is like art - it's all about
your interpretation of it and not just what someone else says it is. Some people, like me, see the best (so far) combination of RPG and shooter elements. Other people tend to see an imbalance of the two core elements of the game. Some people see Game of the Year 2010, and others see it as a step in the wrong direction. Too many people fight about who's right and who's wrong in an environment where there is no right and no wrong. You don't see people in museums getting in these kinds of arguments, do you?
The most heated discussions of the game always center around one person's view of the game (or RPGs, or BioWare, or DLC, etc.) versus another person's view. For example, trying to convince someone that the game is more/less RPG than they believe is silly when you think about it. At the least, someone has spent 60+ hours of their time forming their own opinion of the two games and realizing what they mean to them - how on earth does a complete stranger plan on changing their mind about it by making a few posts on the internet? It's easy to find people with similar views about the two games, but it's impossible to sway everyone into believing what you believe. I doubt that there actually is a mass (majority) opinion on this game, yet some people on the internet claim to be the messenger of said opinion.
That being said, it should be expected that
Positive Comment/Opinion 1 would influence
Positive Comment/Opinion 2 and
Positive Comment/Opinion 3 to appear. It should also be expected that
Positive Comments/Opinions 1-3 would attract
Non-agreeing Comment/Opinion 1.
Non-agreeing Comment/Opinion 1 would then influence more supporters, in the form of
Non-agreeing Comment/Opinion 2 and
Non-agreeing Comment/Opinion 3. And so on, and so forth. This also works in the opposite way: negative comments/opinions tend to draw out the non-agreeing positive ones.
It's just the way discussions go, and some form of natural balance is attained. The good discussions are the ones that are deprived of flaming and other hostile emotions. I'm not one to usually shine the spotlight on myself or others, but take the posts between Ink.So.Well and myself over what the game
is for us for example (posts
1914,
1915,
1923,
1932, and
1935). We (almost) couldn't disagree on the game more, but you don't see anger in any of those posts and you definitely don't see hurt feelings.
That's how these things go, and it's happened plenty of other times in this thread alone by different people. There's no reason to get worked up if someone has negative comments to say about your favorite game, and there's equally no reason to get upset if people don't mind some of the things that turn you off to a game. For the most part, I'd say this thread remains pretty mild whenever there's some topic that everyone is buzzing about. There does seem to be a lot of misinterpretation/confusion, though, as to who's "attacking you" versus who's simply disagreeing with you (admittedly, some posts
can be ambiguous).
I didn't want to post all that with the intention of saying "keep it to yourselves!", or whatever. I'd love to see this thread grow to something absurd like 50,000 posts by the time ME3 gets officially announced and have it be filled with any/every opinion on every part of the game. I just think it's better for the entire thread if everyone realizes that:
A) Different people have different opinions, none of which are more right or wrong than the other,
- and -
B) Having discussions with people who disagree with you can often strengthen your own view/opinion on a specific part of the game.
So...stop fighting! And stop assuming that everyone is fighting with you! :lol:[/QUOTE]
Haha, at my contradicting post. Forgot I said all that. The initial piece of pie (that is Mass Effect 2) was utterly delicious, but it left a bad after taste that made me very unpleased after a period of time.
And @X's post: Holy crap man, that was an in depth post. Are you an English major? Anyways, I've said in the past pages that I'm trying to cut my habit of negativity in THIS thread. I feel that now the core group left in this thread are the die hard ME fans and they don't necessarily want to discuss the negatives of the game and I respect that. BUT, like I said I'm totally done. Bingo just HAD to quote my post 5 seconds before I took it off. And I've come to a realization that some folks WANT it to be a shooter and some WANT it to be a hardcore RPG, and then there are the delusional in the middle that think it is somehow both (In the traditional literal sense, yes. But not in what people are referring to).
SO, I'm perfectly satisfied with that reasoning and will leave it as is. But, with one more ravaging ME fan comment: How could you like the Hammerhead Missions!?!!? No need to respond.
[quote name='Ryuukishi']Nah, I actually enjoy it (in moderation). I also was entertained by the hacking and bypass minigames so maybe I'm just more into that kind of simple puzzle-esque gameplay. It's like a short, relaxing diversion from the normal pace of the game.[/QUOTE]
I had NO problem with the mining Minigame my FIRST playthrough of the game. I thought it was a nice relaxing alternative to the core shooter mechanic. But, my SECOND playthrough I hated it; mainly because I was trying to speed through it and that was a slow point. So it gave me the conclusion that those that disliked the mining minigame (in their FIRST playthrough) were just rushing through the game in the first place...
[quote name='Lord_Kefka']LOL. We still love ya.
I'm still on the bandwagon for a more hybrid ME3. I was a little disappointed that I was unable to buy all upgrades on my first play-through. But then again, I was expecting it to have some huge impact on my
when it turned out to be only key items.[/QUOTE]
