Mass Effect 2 Discussion - Fight for the Lost

[quote name='shrike4242']Since it's always nice to one-up Xecutioner about ME2 items, I ran into this little bit of goodness:

http://io9.com/5673102/heres-exclusive-artwork-for-the-upcoming-mass-effect-comic-book

Artwork for Mass Effect: Evolution comic book.

And related to that, there's a Mass Effect web comic up on the USAToday.com website:
http://www.usatoday.com/life/comics/2010-10-25-masseffect25_ST_N.htm

No, I didn't mistype that, it's on the USAToday.com site.[/QUOTE]
:roll: "one-up"

I was all over those things as soon as they hit. You're just fortunate that I'm too busy with RB3 to handle ME business, as usual. I like to give others a chance to feel important every now and then, you know? :lol:

:cool:
 
[quote name='Tha Xecutioner']:roll: "one-up"

I was all over those things as soon as they hit. You're just fortunate that I'm too busy with RB3 to handle ME business, as usual. I like to give others a chance to feel important every now and then, you know? :lol:

:cool:[/QUOTE]However you feel you need to rationalize it, go for it. ;)

:rofl:
 
[quote name='shrike4242']However you feel you need to rationalize it, go for it. ;)

:rofl:[/QUOTE]
:lol:

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I just checked the Mass Effect 2 section of my 120GB HDD (while clearing up space on it) and noticed that I have 36 separate careers available to choose from. I think 44-50% of those are actually "finished" games, too.

8 Adepts
9 Engineers
2 Infiltrators
3 Sentinels
2 Soldiers
12 Vanguards

:cool:
 
[quote name='Tha Xecutioner']:lol:

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I just checked the Mass Effect 2 section of my 120GB HDD (while clearing up space on it) and noticed that I have 36 separate careers available to choose from. I think 44-50% of those are actually "finished" games, too.

8 Adepts
9 Engineers
2 Infiltrators
3 Sentinels
2 Soldiers
12 Vanguards

:cool:[/QUOTE]

Admitting you have a problem is the first step on the road to recovery.

You have a problem.
 
[quote name='Tybee']Admitting you have a problem is the first step on the road to recovery.

You have a problem.
[/QUOTE]
:lol:

I can admit that it's pretty crazy, but it was mostly necessary for testing out a lot of different things that I have been working on since the game came out.

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I can't believe the amount of "Mass Effect 2 (PC) for $10" sales that I have seen pop up over the last few months. If people realized how much bang-for-your-buck you could get out of that $10, it'd be flying off the virtual shelves.

With the current EA Online Store sale, I did pick up ME1 on PC...finally...so that's probably going to equate to more playthroughs in the near future :cool:
 
[quote name='Tha Xecutioner']:lol:

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I just checked the Mass Effect 2 section of my 120GB HDD (while clearing up space on it) and noticed that I have 36 separate careers available to choose from. I think 44-50% of those are actually "finished" games, too.

8 Adepts
9 Engineers
2 Infiltrators
3 Sentinels
2 Soldiers
12 Vanguards

:cool:[/QUOTE]Oh, to have that much spare time on my hands.... :lol:

I just have my single run-through as a Paragon Vanguard, and I'm almost done with ME1 on Hardcore as my Renegade Adept (have to do a couple of post-Feros missions, then hit Virmire and beyond from there), so there will be a second one when I bring that ME1 run through to ME2.

Speaking of that, I was thinking of something while going through Bring Down The Sky, where I went with the "kill Balak at the expense of the hostages" situation. With all the things he was saying about the batarians rising up against the humans and that the asteroid drop was just one items of lots of things to come, I'm wondering if they'll be bringing up that as a possible item into ME3. Doing BDTS as Renegade was truly some hardcore bits of dialogue compared to trying to save the hostages for Paragon.
 
Yeah my only playthroughs are a Paragon, Male, Solider (for ME1 and imported into ME2) and a Renegade, Female, Adept (only played through ME2).

Even with a lot more free time I doubt I'd do anymore. As much as I love the ME games, there are too many other games to play, movies to watch, books to read etc. to replay a game more than once or twice for me personally.

Not that there's anything wrong with doing a ton of play throughs of course. All that matters with hobbies is doing what you enjoy most!
 
I've got four completed playthroughs so far-- my two main characters, male Paragon Vanguard (who I decided to re-import and replay ME2 as an Engineer instead) and female Renegade Soldier, plus an Infiltrator, and another Engineer from my Insanity playthrough. I started Adept and Sentinel playthroughs but decided I preferred the other classes. It's just one of those games that never gets old.
 
[quote name='Anexanhume']Congrats to ME2, it won the golden joystick ultimate game of the year and rpg of the year awards.[/QUOTE]

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:whee:
 
I've updated the OP (and title :cool:) a bit, with the main additions being a section for the recently requested DLC information and other sources of information for the ME Universe - like books, comics, etc. I'll get around to doing the DLC part sometime soon, once I'm not as busy as I will be this weekend.

Does it look better/worse? Is there anything that it's missing?
 
News about the PS3 version of the game, as well as a pretty big piece of info:

Nathalie Edelmann, a moderator over on BioWare’s Social Network, has said the PS3 version of Mass Effect 2 will compensate for the lack of storyline connected the firstiteratin of the game, considering it wasn’t released for the console.

According to Edelmann, per producer Casey Hudson, an interactive comic from Dark Horse will relay the events of Mass Effect before the second game came out, and it will allow the player to “make various choices that they’d normally make if they were able to play the first game”.

It was also revealed Kasumi’s: Stolen Memory, Overlord, and Lair of the Shadow Broker will be included on disc, along with a code allowing players to access all DLC published via the Cerberus Network will be included with the disc.

A new mission, which has about six hours of additional playtime, will also be made available to players.

Granted, it’s likely the information is accurate since the person posting is indeed a moderator on the German portion of the forums, but we’ll still send a mail just in case.

Mass Effect 2 on PS3 is slated for release in January.
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A six hour mission? That's a pretty massive piece of content. I'm wondering if this something like a "Bring Down the Sky" style N7 mission, or if it's the next big piece of "bridging the gap" content. If this is true, maybe we'll hear an official announcement about the next piece of DLC soon?

As for the PS3 version, an interactive comic is a neat idea, but it obviously won't come close to experiencing the first game itself. Better than nothing, though. I'll be picking up the PS3 version, so I'm interested to see how the interactive comic works. Either way, the more people that get to play ME2, the better.

EDIT: Looked around a little bit, and it looks like the six hour mission thing was something mistranslated. From Jesse Houston at the BioWare boards:

I want also to touch on the '6 hour exclusive mission'. This I believe is a communication error lost in translation. When we talk about 6 hours of content we are talking about what's included exclusively "On Disc" (Kasumi, Shadow Broker, Overlord), The Interactive Back Story and the Cerberus Network Access.
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It's good to know that they're thinking about the PS3 users who didn't have access to the first game, though I wonder if the "interactive comic" will just be a prettier version of the Q&A the game runs you through if you start with a new character and not a ME1 import.

The big thing I'm wondering about the PS3 version is if it'll be a better looking game graphically.
 
For once, I am in complete agreement with the majority of BioWare forum members that I have seen comment about this announcement. I was super excited for PS3 owners until I saw this line from Jesse:

There will also be some DLC Bundles, such as the Aegis Pack as well as exclusive both Free and Paid DLC for all PlayStation 3 owners such as the Recon Operations Pack.
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I'm not exploding with rage like some people there are (because I know I'm crazy enough to buy the PS3 copy when it hits) but I can see how that would come as a "low blow" for 360/PC owners. I really hope, though, that these exclusives turn out to be timed exclusives - so the potential community backlash for BioWare is minimized.

[quote name='shrike4242']The big thing I'm wondering about the PS3 version is if it'll be a better looking game graphically.[/QUOTE]
Better than the 360? Possibly.

Better than the PC (at max settings)? Highly doubtful.
 
[quote name='Tha Xecutioner']I'm not exploding with rage like some people there are (because I know I'm crazy enough to buy the PS3 copy when it hits) but I can see how that would come as a "low blow" for 360/PC owners. I really hope, though, that these exclusives turn out to be timed exclusives - so the potential community backlash for BioWare is minimized.

Better than the 360? Possibly.

Better than the PC (at max settings)? Highly doubtful.[/QUOTE]If it's timed exclusives, then I'm mildly OK with that. If it's not timed exclusives and they are PS3 exclusives, then that's a huge slap in the face against the 360 and PC users who bought this game in huge numbers.

I was thinking that it might be better than the 360 version, though a PC on max settings, no, that should be the best possible version of the game.
 
I have a feeling we're done with any playable DLC for ME2.

Wish they'd announce that so I could throw it on Goozex before the point value plummets!
 
[quote name='dmaul1114']I have a feeling we're done with any playable DLC for ME2.

Wish they'd announce that so I could throw it on Goozex before the point value plummets![/QUOTE]
They're nowhere near done, from the sound of it:

Eurogamer: Are we done with DLC for Mass Effect 2?

Greg Zeschuk: We're told we're still in development. We're not done yet. We're still ongoing.


Ray Muzyka: We haven't announced details of the next ones yet. We're still working on stuff in the Mass Effect universe actively. We haven't announced any details of what that is yet, but we're working on lots cool stuff.


Greg Zeschuk: We have a pretty long DLC plan for Mass. We're still doing lots of stuff there.
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(taken from a recent Eurogamer interview)
 
[quote name='saunderscowie']Anyone reckon the DLC will go on sale again soon? I really want to play the game again and didn't get any of the paid DLC[/QUOTE]
I think the best you could hope for is some sort of holiday deal on XBL that may include ME2 DLC. Otherwise, you missed the Deal of the Week for the Kasumi DLC and the Overlord DLC by a few weeks and I doubt they'd come back anytime soon.
 
[quote name='Tha Xecutioner']They're nowhere near done, from the sound of it:



(taken from a recent Eurogamer interview)[/QUOTE]

But will it be more playable DLC, or just weapon and armor packs that I couldn't give a crap less about?

Honestly, I'd rather them be focusing on getting ME3 out ASAP personally. But I also won't complain if we get more playable DLC of Shadowbroker or Overlord quality.
 
They've talked about doing more DLC that sets up/leads into ME3's story. I'll bet there are at least two more Shadow Broker-sized mission packs.

And yeah, I'm going to be peeved if there is exclusive DLC for PS3, even if it's just weapon or armor packs. There's absolutely no reason not to give it to us too.
 
I'm probably in the super-minority amongst BioWare/Mass Effect fans, but I'd personally rather see a huge Lair of the Shadow Broker-esque mission set released as DLC for at least each quarter/season next year and have ME3 released in 2012. Of course, between those huge DLC packs there would be plenty of armor packs (please give the rest of the Dirty Dozen some cool new armor if you're going to make some for Garrus, Jack, and Thane) and other lesser scale packs.

I really want BioWare to take their sweet time with ME3. As epic as I want ME3 to be, I don't want the devs to feel like they have to get the game out next year or else. Take all the time in the world to make this game what it ought to be.
 
[quote name='Tha Xecutioner']I'm probably in the super-minority amongst BioWare/Mass Effect fans, but I'd personally rather see a huge Lair of the Shadow Broker-esque mission set released as DLC for at least each quarter/season next year and have ME3 released in 2012. Of course, between those huge DLC packs there would be plenty of armor packs (please give the rest of the Dirty Dozen some cool new armor if you're going to make some for Garrus, Jack, and Thane) and other lesser scale packs.

I really want BioWare to take their sweet time with ME3. As epic as I want ME3 to be, I don't want the devs to feel like they have to get the game out next year or else. Take all the time in the world to make this game what it ought to be.[/QUOTE]I'm more than happy to wait out ME3 into 1Q 2012 if it allows them to put the polish on it to make a truly epic end to the trilogy.

A couple more LoTSB-sized DLC packs would be nice, around the end of this year / beginning of next wear and another one around the middle of the year would be nice. A third one at the end of next year as bridge DLC into ME3 would be perfect.
 
Don't get me wrong, I'd love more DLC, especially if it's tied to main story points like the Shadow Broker one.

I just wish they'd clearly state that more was coming (and not just weapon/armor packs) so I know it's worth holding onto vs. trading while the Goozex value is still high.
 
[quote name='Ryuukishi']And yeah, I'm going to be peeved if there is exclusive DLC for PS3, even if it's just weapon or armor packs. There's absolutely no reason not to give it to us too.[/QUOTE]
Apparently one of the mods on the BioWare board has said that there won't be any content for the PS3 version that wasn't or won't be available on the 360 as well. Maybe this "Recon Operations Pack" is a repackaging of the Dr. Pepper promo items?
 
[quote name='Ryuukishi']Apparently one of the mods on the BioWare board has said that there won't be any content for the PS3 version that wasn't or won't be available on the 360 as well. Maybe this "Recon Operations Pack" is a repackaging of the Dr. Pepper promo items?[/QUOTE]

Exactly. Go back and re-read that thread, at least the first three pages. Jesse edits the post to state that while he can't make explicit statements on what is or isn't included in the packs, they are working hard to make sure the releases are unilateral. You have PS3, 360 and PC players. They don't want to leave anyone out of anything.

The exact quote is:
"Edit: While I can't go into details all of this content is or was available to Xbox/PC Owners but otherwise wouldn't be available to PS3 owners."

That's an indirect statement towards the Dr. Pepper DLC (it included the Recon Mask) and I'm guessing some of the pre-order DLC. The members of that forum made it known that they shouldn't bite that hand that feeds them. Exclusive DLC would definitely cause a backlash. Something like the motion comic backstory? Whatever. PC/360 players had the full first game.

Now, let's get a big DLC pack and the rest of the Armor Packs. It feels silly to have 3 squad members with these extra costumes.
 
I'd love it if they would release more appearance packs to cover the rest of the squad, but I'm not very optimistic at this point.

I have a feeling that the first pack crashed and burned sales-wise, otherwise they would have made more of them available by now. It must take way less effort to create than any other form of DLC they could produce (that's not a slam on BioWare's artists or modelers BTW, just an observation). Easy money-- as long as it actually sells. So why haven't they made any more?
 
Probably poor sales as you note.

I bought Katsumi, Overloard and Shadow Broker, but would never buy a weapon/armor pack--much less a simple appearance pack. Not worth the money to me since I'm not doing any more playthroughs etc.--and even if I did I only play on normal so I don't need better weapons or armor.
 
[quote name='Arikado']
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You know how when you finish out the personal dialogue option with Jacob and he just says, "We'll be spilling drinks back on the Citadel"? Well I was playing the other day and he said that and my wife was like, "Wow, that's racist. If one of your crew actually dies do they show him pouring out some of his 40?"

[quote name='Tha Xecutioner']I'm probably in the super-minority amongst BioWare/Mass Effect fans, but I'd personally rather see a huge Lair of the Shadow Broker-esque mission set released as DLC for at least each quarter/season next year and have ME3 released in 2012. Of course, between those huge DLC packs there would be plenty of armor packs (please give the rest of the Dirty Dozen some cool new armor if you're going to make some for Garrus, Jack, and Thane) and other lesser scale packs.

I really want BioWare to take their sweet time with ME3. As epic as I want ME3 to be, I don't want the devs to feel like they have to get the game out next year or else. Take all the time in the world to make this game what it ought to be.[/QUOTE]

What he said, both for your reasons and because I have a massive backlog (including Dragon Age and Fallout 3) to keep me occupied in the meantime.

[quote name='dmaul1114']Probably poor sales as you note.

I bought Katsumi, Overloard and Shadow Broker, but would never buy a weapon/armor pack--much less a simple appearance pack. Not worth the money to me since I'm not doing any more playthroughs etc.--and even if I did I only play on normal so I don't need better weapons or armor.[/QUOTE]

I bought almost all of the packs because it was my first playthrough and I was actually going to get the use out of them (I've been using all of the Kestrel armor pieces for most of the game, as well as several of the DLC weapons and even the alt. outfits for Garrus and Jack (though not Thane -- seeing him in sunglasses just makes me sad). I doubt I would have bought many, if any, of them if I'd already completed a playthrough. Wasn't Bioware actually polling forum members at one point to see what characters they'd like to see get alt. outfits next?

I finished the main game and all of the DLC except LotSB on Friday. About halfway through LotSB now. Loving it!

One achievement question: I bumped up the difficulty to Hardcore immediately before entering Liara's office and choosing the "Let's go get the Shadow Broker" dialog option. Is this sufficient to get that difficulty-based achievement? That seems to be the official starting point (there's even a short loading bump before Liara responds, indicating that a new part of the game is about to begin).
 
I'm starting to think that we're not going to get any new DLC before January... Since we already know what DLC is going to be included in the PS3 super edition, anything new that comes out this year for 360 would (presumably) be Day 1 paid DLC for PS3. If BioWare doesn't want to deal with the griping from PS3 people that there's paid DLC not included on their disc, they'll just hold off and release the next pack simultaneously for both consoles, after the PS3 release.

Hope I'm wrong!
 
[quote name='Tybee']You know how when you finish out the personal dialogue option with Jacob and he just says, "We'll be spilling drinks back on the Citadel"? Well I was playing the other day and he said that and my wife was like, "Wow, that's racist. If one of your crew actually dies do they show him pouring out some of his 40?"
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Wow that's not racist, Jacob wanting to party on the Citadel is called personality (and with the context of having stopped galactic invaders seems a quite decent celebration). Having the notion that Jacob will drink a 40 because he's African American is kinda racist.

Tell your wife you and Jacob will be drinking weird colored drinks that glow at the Citadel. ;)

As for the ME2 DLC, Bioware stated a while ago that they have big plans to bridge the gap between ME2 and ME3. Granted we got a big chunk of that with the Shadow Broker dlc but I think there will be more substantial dlc this year. If not I'd be happy for wherever and I agree ME3 in 2012 if it helps make it soooo EPIC!
 
Forgive the double post but wanted to share these Photoshop winners of Historic yet Video Game Related pics with the ones about Mass Effect: Put in Spoiler tag due to image's size.
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:applause: awesome
 
[quote name='Spybreak8']Wow that's not racist, Jacob wanting to party on the Citadel is called personality (and with the context of having stopped galactic invaders seems a quite decent celebration). Having the notion that Jacob will drink a 40 because he's African American is kinda racist.

Tell your wife you and Jacob will be drinking weird colored drinks that glow at the Citadel. ;)[/QUOTE]

I'm thinking they're taking the phrase "spilling drinks back" to mean "pouring out a drink for a lost one" and not "pouring drinks backwards into mouth". I seriously think the writers meant the latter and not the former. I mean, how would you pour a 40 into the ground backwards anyway? How does that work?
 
[quote name='Tybee']You know how when you finish out the personal dialogue option with Jacob and he just says, "We'll be spilling drinks back on the Citadel"? Well I was playing the other day and he said that and my wife was like, "Wow, that's racist. If one of your crew actually dies do they show him pouring out some of his 40?"
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Your wife sounds more racist then the dialouge selection.
 
I just spent $66 on an N7 hoodie from the bioware store. Didn't even have a coupon code....just some paypal funny money. But, still.....I feel like I've betrayed by CAG ways, all in the name of Mass Effect.

I really need to finish Fable 3 so I can get to another ME2 playthrough.
 
[quote name='Spybreak8']
Tell your wife you and Jacob will be drinking weird colored drinks that glow at the Citadel. ;)[/QUOTE]
"Is that Kool-Aid that he is drinking!? Wow, that's racist."
 
[quote name='chrisswiss83']I'm thinking they're taking the phrase "spilling drinks back" to mean "pouring out a drink for a lost one" and not "pouring drinks backwards into mouth". I seriously think the writers meant the latter and not the former. I mean, how would you pour a 40 into the ground backwards anyway? How does that work?[/QUOTE]

Yeah. You can't really hear what he says, and that's exactly how we interpreted it. I'm glad we were mistaken.

[quote name='yukine']"Is that Kool-Aid that he is drinking!? Wow, that's racist."[/QUOTE]

:roll: Now you're just being silly. It's Crystal Light.
 
[quote name='chubbyninja1319']I just spent $66 on an N7 hoodie from the bioware store. Didn't even have a coupon code....just some paypal funny money. But, still.....I feel like I've betrayed by CAG ways, all in the name of Mass Effect.

I really need to finish Fable 3 so I can get to another ME2 playthrough.[/QUOTE]

I have been eyeing that hoodie. I can't quite justify paying that much for it.
 
[quote name='panzerfaust']You'll probably be able to get ME2 for like $2.50 on steam in December.[/QUOTE]

...STEAM sales in December; I am already foaming at the mouth. I hope they have some bomb ass Black Friday deals too.
 
Finished up my ME1 Hardcore run with my female Renegade Adept. Ended up with Level 54 by the time I was done.
Sacrificed the Council, ended up suggesting a new all-human Council, suggested Udina for the head position. As anti-Paragon as I could get.

Now, it's on to ME2 on a Hardcore run. I kept to the same class in ME2, though I wasn't sure what to pick for the "bonus" power because I'm going through it for the second time. I went with Flash Grenade on a knee-jerk choice, though I'm right in the beginning if anyone has a better suggestion.
 
[quote name='shrike4242']Finished up my ME1 Hardcore run with my female Renegade Adept. Ended up with Level 54 by the time I was done.
Sacrificed the Council, ended up suggesting a new all-human Council, suggested Udina for the head position. As anti-Paragon as I could get.

Now, it's on to ME2 on a Hardcore run. I kept to the same class in ME2, though I wasn't sure what to pick for the "bonus" power because I'm going through it for the second time. I went with Flash Grenade on a knee-jerk choice, though I'm right in the beginning if anyone has a better suggestion.[/QUOTE]

Energy Drain is a great choice for the adept. With it, all of your bases will be covered when it comes to whatever type of protection an enemy has. Warp will handle the armor and barriers, and Energy Drain will take care of the shields.
 
[quote name='Arikado']Energy Drain is a great choice for the adept. With it, all of your bases will be covered when it comes to whatever type of protection an enemy has. Warp will handle the armor and barriers, and Energy Drain will take care of the shields.[/QUOTE]Good to know. I'll restart the character again and pick Energy Drain.

Should I also assume
that when I get to the Collector ship and can do training on a new weapon class, I should go with the Assault Rifle for the Adept?
 
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[quote name='Gamehead']I have been eyeing that hoodie. I can't quite justify paying that much for it.[/QUOTE]
I picked one up last winter. Quite possibly the most comfortable hoodie I have ever had.
Plus it deflected the bullets when I got caught in a drive-by.
 
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