Mass Effect 3 Discussion Thread

I always preferred femshep as well. While I've yet to play with male shep, when I see him in youtube clips, it feels like he doesn't have the same amount of emotion that Hale has. Then again, I also play in a renegadeish way as well.
 
How about we all move on from the whole VO debate?

Because honestly, everyone has assholes, opinions, and about a million different other things. Everyone plays their own way and likes/dislikes it for their own reasons.

I've read a thousand reasons why Hale/Meer sucks/is awesome and I just don't care anymore. Yes, the topic of VO is part of the Mass Effect discussion but let's get back to gameplay or multiplayer or whatever else we all like/dislike about Mass Effect.

Except about who is the better/worse VO for Shepard.
 
Actually, no one has said anything about it all day today until you just brought it up again ;). Strangely quiet in here actually...
 
[quote name='IanKazimer']It was fun to find out that Steve "I'm in literally fucking everything" Blum voiced my one of my favorite Krogans though.[/QUOTE]
Blum did a lot of incidental voices too, like Wilson and the Blue Suns leader from Zaeed's loyalty mission.

Other places you can hear Blum perform opposite Jennifer Hale: Bulletstorm and Cowboy Bebop: The Movie.
 
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[quote name='Ryuukishi']Blum did a lot of incidental voices too, like Wilson and the Blue Suns leader from Zaeed's loyalty mission.

Other places you can hear Blum perform opposite Jennifer Hale: Bulletstorm and Cowboy Bebop: The Movie.[/QUOTE]

Haha, usually I pride myself in being able to pick Blum out of a group, but every now and then he surprises me. Grabbed him right away in the new airbender cartoon, Legend of Korra.

Also just restarted Bebop. Shit's so good.

Anyone hitting multi today? I might jump on in a bit. Been productive enough to not feel bad about it!
 
Finally finished the campaign. Enjoyed it a lot, agree with general consensus that the ending is pretty lame though.

My ending etc. was
Used renegade interrupt to shoot Illusive Man (one of few times I sed it since I did paragon playthrough). Anderson died. Choose to destroy the Reapers/synthetics. Shepard died, crew survived, earth saved.

Lots of good moments in the game, but probably still my least favorite of the series. Hated all the fetch quest sidequests (and how the log didn't update), not a big fan of the effective military strength stuff and having multiplayer impact single player. I know they say you can get the best ending without playing any MP, but I did most everything and wasn't near 5,000 (was in the high 3,000s).

Doubt I'll bother with the MP at all. Just not into MP these days, and have too much other stuff on the shelf I'd rather play.

I did like that it kicks you out to save pre point of no return. I saved that in case with DLC etc. I want to revist and go for the perfect ending later on.
 
[quote name='dmaul1114']Lots of good moments in the game, but probably still my least favorite of the series. Hated all the fetch quest sidequests (and how the log didn't update), not a big fan of the effective military strength stuff and having multiplayer impact single player. I know they say you can get the best ending without playing any MP, but I did most everything and wasn't near 5,000 (was in the high 3,000s).[/QUOTE]

It is possible to get the best ending without MP, but to do so, you had to import your save from Mass Effect 2 and Mass Effect 1, and had to have made the optimal choices too.
 
I did all that--well with the PS3 comic for ME1. Just didn't see a way to get EMS up to the 5,000 plus needed. No biggie though as I just Youtubed other endings and only minor differences. And I don't plan on gaming past this generation so I couldn't care less about whether anything affects any future ME games. Which is unlikely as I doubt they'll bother transfering saves to the next gen consoles anyway.
 
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[quote name='io']Actually, no one has said anything about it all day today until you just brought it up again ;). Strangely quiet in here actually...[/QUOTE]

We're playing Witcher 2 by CD Projekt, who know how to make choice REALLY matter in a game. :)
 
[quote name='io']I completely forgot there was even a FemShep option - just so used to running the Male Shep with my custom appearance. It freaks me the fuck out when I see videos with that beady-eyed a-hole looking "standard" Shep though. Takes me right out of the game since I'm so used to my own one - I should see if I can get a pic of him.[/QUOTE]

The problem of having a game that focuses on having a custom character, you can't put a question mark on the box. ;)
 
[quote name='Spybreak8']The problem of having a game that focuses on having a custom character, you can't put a question mark on the box. ;)[/QUOTE]
I've mixed feelings about "person walks angrily towards/away from you" and "floating face" box-art, anyway. Compare, for example, the European and American Resident Evil 4 box-arts:

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That is not to say that floating faces/people walking box-arts are inherently bad, but Jesus fuck, guys, look at that European box art.
 
[quote name='MSUHitman']We're playing Witcher 2 by CD Projekt, who know how to make choice REALLY matter in a game. :)[/QUOTE]

I have Witcher 2, but won't get to it until I finish ME3 on Insanity. 22/27 towards Unwavering.....getting into the tough battles now. What's odd is that there have been some battles that I had a hard time with on normal difficulty. Then, on Insanity, haven't had any trouble at all. Weird.
 
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[quote name='dmaul1114']I did all that--well with the PS3 comic for ME1. Just didn't see a way to get EMS up to the 5,000 plus needed. [/QUOTE]
Same here, except I actually played ME1. After doing every single sidequest in ME3 I had an EMS of ~3300.

Perhaps I should have
let the council die in the first game? Would that have boosted my Alliance assets significantly?
 
[quote name='Allnatural']Same here, except I actually played ME1. After doing every single sidequest in ME3 I had an EMS of ~3300.

Perhaps I should have
let the council die in the first game? Would that have boosted my Alliance assets significantly?
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I played ME1 and ME2 on 360, but lost my saves when I ditched my old 360 in frustration over being hacked and getting shitty customer service from MS.

So I picked up ME2 on PS3 and recreated my main playthrough using the comic and just replaying ME2 making the same decisions.

As for your spoiler question, nope as I made that decision and finished with 6,559 total military strength and 3,279 after the 50% reduction.

I'm sure I missed some things--definite a system here or there not at 100% (though most were fuel depot wreckages I left when fleeing reapers, and probably missed a side quest or two from the citadel from not walking by and evesdropping to pick it up (though I think I got most). Had to see where I missed enough that I could have got up to the 4,000-5,000 EMS needed for the optimal ending without doing any MP or iOS app stuff to improve readiness rating.
 
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The thing about getting the "best" ending without playing multiplayer:

Synthesis requires higher EMS than both destroy and control to be selectable at the end, so it can be inferred that BioWare considers synthesis the "best" ending. It's possible to hit the synthesis threshold without multiplayer. The thing is, tons of people think synthesis is really shitty for a number of different reasons. I think BioWare really thought "this beam goes out and makes organics and leaves have green circuits in them" was a good idea that everyone would love. That obviously backfired.

The general consensus is the destroy ending where Shepard survives is the best ending, which isn't possible without playing multiplayer or using the iOS apps to increase your galactic readiness.

Personally, I think it's hard to call any of the choices the "best" because they all suck. Maybe the Extended Cut can patch things over some, but I'm not holding my breath.
 
[quote name='The Crotch']I've mixed feelings about "person walks angrily towards/away from you" and "floating face" box-art, anyway. Compare, for example, the European and American Resident Evil 4 box-arts:

9AUUH.jpg


That is not to say that floating faces/people walking box-arts are inherently bad, but Jesus fuck, guys, look at that European box art.[/QUOTE]

I agree that with the comparison you can definitely see it but without a customized character comparison something like this looks completely fine.
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Throw some falling flames in the background and this would work just as well.
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But then again I'm not in the marketing department lol.
 
[quote name='Arikado']The thing about getting the "best" ending without playing multiplayer:

Synthesis requires higher EMS than both destroy and control to be selectable at the end, so it can be inferred that BioWare considers synthesis the "best" ending. It's possible to hit the synthesis threshold without multiplayer. The thing is, tons of people think synthesis is really shitty for a number of different reasons. I think BioWare really thought "this beam goes out and makes organics and leaves have green circuits in them" was a good idea that everyone would love. That obviously backfired.

The general consensus is the destroy ending where Shepard survives is the best ending, which isn't possible without playing multiplayer or using the iOS apps to increase your galactic readiness.

Personally, I think it's hard to call any of the choices the "best" because they all suck. Maybe the Extended Cut can patch things over some, but I'm not holding my breath.
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A big part of the problem (and there are many, many problems...) is that I have no idea what synthesis actually does. Everybody has some glowy bits, but what does that mean for them? What does being part-biological mean for machines? Are all machines now part-biological, or just the self-aware ones? If it's only the self-aware ones, how? Is the Normandy now partly biological? Why did you need Shepard to jump into a beam of light to activate it? Since when was a machine that could rewrite the DNA of all living things - and introduce DNA into non-living things - even something that could exist in the Mass Effect universe?

And what about destroy? What qualifies as a synthetic? It kills reapers, I guess. And geth, probably. EDI dies, or just her robot body? If EDI dies proper-like, what about the Normandy itself? What about VIs? Are they destroyed? Are all machines destroyed? What was that shit about "you have cybernetic parts too, Shepard"? If the Reapers were made to prevent people from creating synthetics that would destroy everything, yet they had a device that could destroy all synthetics everywhere, why didn't they just use that instead?

And why are these all stupider versions of the ending of Deus Ex?
 
All of the Mass Effect games have terrible box art. ME3 is probably the best just because it's the simplest. (ME2 is the worst.)

You could make a case for either the Synthesis or Destroy/Shep Breathes endings as the "best." Frankly I think it's silly to talk about which ending is best or even use the word endings plural. There is one ending with some barely noticeable cosmetic variations.

As for Synthesis, I like the fan-made ending generator that casts Synthesis as adding short-range telepathic networking capabilities to organic beings. Seems to make as much or more sense than any other way to interpret that.
 
So is Mass Effect: Deception going to be re-written or edited at all? I'm not sure if it's even salvageable, or if they need to start from scratch. I really enjoyed the first three books by Karpyshyn, so it's disappointing.
 
[quote name='ratzombie']So is Mass Effect: Deception going to be re-written or edited at all? I'm not sure if it's even salvageable, or if they need to start from scratch. I really enjoyed the first three books by Karpyshyn, so it's disappointing.[/QUOTE]

Yeah Deception sucks really hard. To me its not canon....except it does set up
Kai Leng for the upgrades I suppose and it links to Anderson saying that he an Kahlee ran into Leng on Omega.
that's The first three books are just much better in terms of continuity and simple storytelling. The thing that gets Me the most about Deception is that Dietz got the characters wrong in many cases. He rewrote Gillian from the ground up and Hendel wasn't far behind. I hope for more books in this universe, but pray they keep Dietz far away. He pissed on the Mass Effect universe and for that he's perma-shunned from my reading list!
 
That's why I haven't even bothered, I was just hoping that there would be enough Internet rage to get it fixed or something. Hopefully there will be a 5th book that isn't terrible.
 
[quote name='Ryuukishi']All of the Mass Effect games have terrible box art. ME3 is probably the best just because it's the simplest. (ME2 is the worst.)[/QUOTE]
If you're buying the right versions of the Mass Effect games, then there's no way you can say that the box art is bad :cool:

Aka:
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me2cl.png
me3s.png
 
Eh... that CE of the first one is still pretty lame. Floating people! Floating faces! In floating space! Take Shepard, Garrus, Ashley, and the Normandy out of it and it might be respectable.

The fact that everyone's feet are inexplicably covered by something, anything, reminds me of a Rob Liefeld comic, too.
 
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[quote name='Tha Xecutioner']If you're buying the right versions of the Mass Effect games, then there's no way you can say that the box art is bad :cool:

Aka:
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me2cl.png
me3s.png
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I'll definitely give you 2 and 3. ME1 is still pretty bad, though better than the regular box art.
 
[quote name='ratzombie']I was just hoping that there would be enough Internet rage to get it fixed or something.[/QUOTE]

There was and a revised edition will be released to the general public in the near future. BioWare made an official statement a while back not only apologizing to the fans for the ridiculous amount of errors, but assuring nothing from the book was considered canon as well.

Sadly everyone raging against those who hated the ending and petitioned for a change conveniently forgot any of this ever happened. :roll:
 
I was wondering if they would consider that book cannon or not. I'm also thinking that that book should have clued us all in on how the game would end. If they would let a book that bad come out then we should have all known they would have done the same with the last game.
 
[quote name='The Crotch']The fact that everyone's feet are inexplicably covered by something, anything, reminds me of a Rob Liefeld comic, too.[/QUOTE]

Good point, I'm surprised they didn't give everyone pouches.
 
Yeah the crux of the first CE is that since Mass Effect was a new IP just having a logo or the title name on the box wouldn't suffice.

I also enjoyed all of Karpyshyn's books and it's sad to see him gone now.
 
I actually like the ME1 poster and wish I bought the poster when I could have. Its classic sci-fi all the way and reminds me of the old (read: good ) star wars posters.
 
So after I deal with an Indian person that pisses me off, once they're gone, is it racist if I call them a Quarian under my breath/in my head?
 
[quote name='MSUHitman']So after I deal with an Indian person that pisses me off, once they're gone, is it racist if I call them a Quarian under my breath/in my head?[/QUOTE]

...that's racist against Quarians.
 
Looks like I missed the VO discussion. Yay! :lol:

Well, I'm close to the end. Made it through
all of the hub missions, save the ones that were live and disappeared after the Cerberus Citadel attack, all of the N7 missions, as well as Thessia and Horizon. Have the Cerberus base left to do as well as the endgame. Enjoyed all of the N7 missions, plus all of the main priority missions.

Being on Thessia with Liara and Javik was damned funny stuff.

Decided not to go any further and wait on finishing it up until Extended Cut drops, so started my second playthrough with my ME2 Renegade Adept on Hardcore. Only did about an hour of that one, so I'm just on Mars.
 
when you import ME2 > ME3 > then again to ME3 again can you change your class? I'd like to finish up as something other than a soldier (again) for the insanity PT (w/all my upgrades and armor).

when I finally got ME2 > ME3 to read I didn't notice an option to change classes even though a lot of FAQ's say you can.
 
meh.

I really wish there was an option to change classes and gender at the start of each import regardless. I suppose as an adept I can just speed through the game for cutscenes and the achievement. Only down side is lower level wpns and mods. (oi and level)
 
[quote name='The Crotch']Change class would be good, but change gender?

That would, um... kinda fuck with imported save data.[/QUOTE]

you're right, forgot about the romance option.
 
[quote name='The Crotch']Change class would be good, but change gender?

That would, um... kinda fuck with imported save data.[/QUOTE]There goes the gender bender achievement.
 
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