Metroid Prime 3 - Do Mother Brains' Have PMS? - 9.5 From IGN!

[quote name='Tybee']That surprises and encourages me. When I saw that question, I knew 4:3 would win, but I thought it would be by a much greater margin. So Nintendo will have to pay more attention to widescreen now, and hopefully we won't get anymore debacles like Mario Party 8.[/QUOTE]

Indeed that is great new. Hopefully they pay heed to the results, and we don't get any more lame 4:3, 480i first party games.

I'm not a graphics whore by any means, but with my new TV games have to at least be 16x9 and 480p for me to bother with them. I just can't deal with the bars on the side or stretching for 4:3 games and 480i games look pretty jaggy most of the time.
 
[quote name='KingBroly']Despite what most people say, the videos, although scaled down ARE 16:9. At least on my TV.
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True, but by saying that I wanted them 16x9 and 480p so I'd know what the game would look like on my TV I was clearly implying that I wanted full screen/full resolution videos. :D
 
Just a heads-up that there are reports from IGN, GAF, etc that at least a demo, and possibly the whole game is arriving at EB/GS kiosks for your playing convenience.
 
Thanks Scrub!

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SPOILERS

Impressions from the demo via IGN -
"How is the controller & how many levels is in the demo?"

The thing is, I don't even think it was an actual demo. I think it was the full game on display, as it had save points and save profiles and everything. Each save profile was linked to a Mii.

The controls were excellent. The cursor was incredibly smooth, and I immediately switched the controls over to advanced. The turning speed was just as I expected, which was pretty dang fast. It also allows you to reverse the buttons for shooting and jumping. The default was A for shooting and B for jumping, so I just left it at that. The only thing I didn't really like was the way you changed visors, by holding - and aiming at which visor you wanted. It made scanning more of a chore than it was in the past games, but I'm sure I'll get used to it.

"Thanks for the tip.

one last question how is the difficulty level? is it easy? normal? hard? is just that I hope it doesnt turn out like Zelda TP for been easy & all."


They had two selectable difficulty levels. I don't remember what the medium difficulty was called, but the hard was called "Veteran." It seemed to me that in Veteran mode, the space pirates took a lot more damage than in past Prime games.



"How did it look in motion?"

Very, very nice. You could tell just by walking around that this games was much more detailed than the GameCube games. The textures were greatly improved, and the lighting (especially the particle effects) was excellent. The only thing that I thought looked a little iffy were the character models on the marines; some of the faces looked a little off. Still, the best looking Wii game I've played.

"Was it fun?"

Absolutely. It controlled like a dream, the AI seemed faster and smarter, and it was much more fast paced.

"How was the music and sound effects?"

The music and sound effects seemed about on par with the last two games. The voice acting was surprisingly well done though, and there was quite a bit of it.

"Did you get to try any puzzles?"

Yeah, there were quite a few basic ones. Playing around in the ship was fun, and there were several basic puzzles around, like "Find the control pannel, scan it to get the access code, find the keypad, enter the access code with the Wii Remote. It was pretty rudimentary stuff, but I could tell it would get more advanced as teh game went on.

"What abilities were you able to test out?"

Well, I started out with doing all the new interacting abilities in the ship, which were all very cool and fun to use withe the pointer enhanced finger pressing. Then on ground, I used the Scan Visor, Morph Ball, Morph Ball bombs, Morh Ball jump (Simply flick up on the Wii Remote to jump in morph ball mode - very intuitive and much improved from the old method), Jump, Double Jump, Shoot, Lock On (The new lock on with the free aim felt great, but was tough to wrap your head around initially), and the new grapple beam move (Was incredibly fun, satisfying and easy to pull off). I also used some of the new methods of interacting, with the Pull Back-Twist-Push Forward to release locks, and you can now point at companions and press A to talk to them.

"Where is this amazing video game store?"

Portland, Oregon, at the Washington Square Mall. On an unrelated not, Sarah Jessica Parker was also at that mall today promoting her new perfume.

"few questions m8

how many bad guys were on the screen at once, was it loads of bad guys, or was it the normal metroid elite experiance?"

From the levels I saw, there was pretty much the typical amount of enemies.

"how was the AI compared to current 360 games? does it keep up or is it a bit stupid?"

The AI definitely seemed to have been improved from the previous Primes. The pirates would flank, and fall back and hide if they were getting owned too hard.

"how did it sound"

Pretty much exactly like MP1 and 2, but with added voice work, which were surprisingly well done.

"did Samus smell like cookies?"

More like cupcakes, lilacs, and badassery.
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"how was advanced play versus noob aiming?"

It was like night and day for me. Noob aiming was basically Red Steel, except with a smoother cursor. Advanced play was incredible though, it started turning slowly nearly instantly away from the center of the screen.

"did the game feel alot more cinematic? and did it have a faster pace compared to the others?"


It really did. The voice acting alone made it seem much more cinematic than past Prime games. But the entire game played so much more like a movie. The cutscenes were much better and more movie like, and there were a lot of almost Call of Duty-esque real time events. There was one part, where a missile collided with the outside of the space ship, ripping a hole all the way through to the hallway you are running in. It created insane amount of suction from the drop in pressure, and some Federation Troopers were sucked out in to outer space. Your screen blurred, and another trooper holds on to the wall as his feet go flying in the air being dragged out. Then a blast door shuts killing all the chaos. All in real time.
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And yes, the game seemed to be more fast paced then previous games, with faster aiming, what seems to be a faster rate of fire, and faster enemies.

"how long did you get to play for?"

I played for a good 45 min - 1 hour. I had to give it up, as quite the line was forming behind me.
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"did anything feel gimmicky while u were playing?"

Surprisingly, not really. I thought that some of the motion actions (turning switches, pressing buttons, etc.) would feel gimmicky, but they really didn't.

"does the game look stunning? how does it look being in 60FPS?"

For a Wii game, yeah, I was definitely impressed. The textures, lighting, and atmosphere was beyond anything I've played on the system before. The framerate sure helped too.

Oh, guys, can't believe I forgot to mention this, but I found this weird while playing the game. There were these little Achievment like popups throughout what I played. The said "100 kills" or "200 kills" in text in the middle of the screen, and I had never heard anything about these Achievmenty things. Thought you guys might want to know.

"how was the menu for the game set up how was the background music or how did the menu look and how was it laid out?"

The startup menu was pretty standard stuff. It started with a title screen (I think the same one as the title screen in the MP3 Preview Channel), and then went to I screen that had what I think was "New Game," "Load," and "Options." If you went to load, it had three save slots, each of which had the face of a Mii next to it. When you clikc on the save file, It allows you to select Normal or Veteran, then you start the game. All of the menu was controlled via moving a little arrow around with the pointer.

The music, again, sounded about the same from previous Primes.

The pause menu had definitely gotten an overhaul though. You pressed 1 (or maybe 2) to get into the pause menu. In the middle was the map, which you could move around with the pointer. Then around the map were different buttons, as in logbook, options, and some others.

"when you played did it seem hard did u get at a point were you were like low on life and just trying hard as hell to keep going on"

Yeah, there was one part where directly after a large space pirate battle, and these little bugs come out of everywhere, along with some bigger bugs that shoot you. I was wasting a lot of time and life trying to kill them all, until I realized they were never ending, and all I had to do was escape on a morph ball track.
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"I know I'll sound like a graphics-wh*re now but: how was the graphics? "

For a Wii game, they were incredible. The lighting was excellent, with a beautiful and realistic shine gleaming off your ship; everything had a nice healthy glow. The particle effects were phenomenal; in Prime 1 and 2, when you charged your beam, a few little beams of light would suction toward your beam, but now, bright blue and yellow particles are flying every which way on the screen, which looked fantastic. Samus' character model looked fantastic, and her animations (when transitioning into morphball and in cutscenes) looked very well done. The textures blurred much less than on the GameCube games, and everything seemed more wide open and high poly. It definitely couldn't have been done on the Cube.
 
Sounds great! Glad to hear that the graphics are noticeably better than the GC games as that didn't come through in the crappy preview videos.
 
[quote name='prisonerac']Saw this at gamefaqs posted by Emir_Parkreiner:

Nintendo power Metoid Prime 3 Review 10/10:
http://img147.imageshack.us/my.php?image=picture005xr5.jpg

Nice to see, but not exactly a surprise given the namesake of the magazine.[/quote]I'm investigating further, but it looks like that is the first 10 Nintendo Power has ever given. In which case, it's definitely a surprise.

Edit: GameRankings shows a 5 out of 5 for the GC RE4, so maybe not the first.
 
[quote name='botticus']I'm investigating further, but it looks like that is the first 10 Nintendo Power has ever given. In which case, it's definitely a surprise.

Edit: GameRankings shows a 5 out of 5 for the GC RE4, so maybe not the first.[/quote]

I'm sure Ocarina of Time got a 10 also.
 
[quote name='Zen Davis']I'm sure Ocarina of Time got a 10 also.[/quote]I seem to recall that as well. Looks like it's been handed out a few times. So, good, but not unprecedented.
 
Actually, Ocarina of Time got a 9.5 when it came out, same as Twilight Princess. The last 10 given out by Nintendo Power was Resident Evil 4 over two years ago.

From what I hear, most people are VERY disappointed in Nintendo's marketing of this game. Not just IGN. Is Prime 3 going to be the next Okami?
 
[quote name='KingBroly']Actually, Ocarina of Time got a 9.5 when it came out, same as Twilight Princess. The last 10 given out by Nintendo Power was Resident Evil 4 over two years ago.

From what I hear, most people are VERY disappointed in Nintendo's marketing of this game. Not just IGN. Is Prime 3 going to be the next Okami?[/quote]

So at the very least, Prime 3 is as good as RE4 according to Nintendo Power. Not bad company if I do say so myself. I will say that out of all the forthcoming reviews, I expect EGM to blast the game simply for not existing on a HD console and a high 8 mark from Gamespot.
 
I guess the thing with the marketing is:

1. It can't be a system seller as there are no systems in stores for it to sell.
2. All the Nintendo fanboys that own the system are no doubt well aware of it and will buy it right away.
3. The casual owners who only play Wiisports aren't going to buy an FPS (or FPA whatever you want to call it) anyway.

So in the end, they probably wouldn't get a lot more sales out of spending millions on TV ads etc. right now anyway.
 
[quote name='dmaul1114']
3. The casual owners who only play Wiisports aren't going to buy an FPS (or FPA whatever you want to call it) anyway.
[/QUOTE]

This is an extraordinary claim to back up with anything more than opinion.

Of course, one might say it would be just as difficult to prove it wrong.

But hey, all those frat boys that didn't play games before Halo had to come from somewhere....
 
I think the corollary to the casual marketing argument is... yeah, it's on the Wii, but if they weren't awed by the Halo 2 marketing in 200X, are they gonna be awed by any MP3 marketing in 2007? Preview channel covers that aspect well enough, I think.
 
[quote name='KingBroly']Actually, Ocarina of Time got a 9.5 when it came out, same as Twilight Princess. The last 10 given out by Nintendo Power was Resident Evil 4 over two years ago.
[/quote]

Yeah, that's true. Mario Sunshine also got a 10 from NP, and while even though it is a Nintendo magazine, it's not like they give 10s out all the time. If a game gets a 10 from Nintendo Power, then it's gotta still be really good.
 
[quote name='dmaul1114']I guess the thing with the marketing is:

1. It can't be a system seller as there are no systems in stores for it to sell.
[/quote]
I saw several Wiis at my local Walmart and my local Toys R Us on Wednesday afternoon, which is the first time I've ever seen one in a store besides the day I got mine on launch day.
 
[quote name='WiiGame']i can't wait for this game![/quote]

Me neither, Bioshock one week then MP3 the next. Possibly two of the best games this generation coming out back to back.
 
I am playing Prime (1) right now, and I haven't played it since 2005 because I got frustrated and stuck, but now that I went back to it, I realized that this game is fucking sick!
 
[quote name='Kaijufan']I saw several Wiis at my local Walmart and my local Toys R Us on Wednesday afternoon, which is the first time I've ever seen one in a store besides the day I got mine on launch day.[/QUOTE]

I've still yet to see one. I'm sure some places have them on shelves for a day or two when a shipment comes in. But the point remains that they don't need a system seller game at the moment. It's flying off store shelves as is, with (IMHO) a terribly weak game library thus far.
 
[quote name='Strell']This is an extraordinary claim to back up with anything more than opinion.

Of course, one might say it would be just as difficult to prove it wrong.

But hey, all those frat boys that didn't play games before Halo had to come from somewhere....[/QUOTE]


I'm talking the non-gamers Nintendo has lured to the Wii with stuff like Wiisports and to the DS with crap like Brain Age.

Not that frat boys that only play Madden and Halo.

The non-gamers aren't going to buy Metroid. Otherwise they would have been gamers before Wiisports or Brain Age. i.e. the huge Halo 2 hype would have got them as Botticus noted above. Or any of the other hugely hyped FPS games over the years.
 
[quote name='SilverPaw750']anyone?[/QUOTE]

Not coming up for me, but you didn't miss much. I saw it earlier and you could read anything other than the title which was something like "Metroid Prime 3: Incorruptible" and barely make out the score of 10.
 
[quote name='dmaul1114']
The non-gamers aren't going to buy Metroid. Otherwise they would have been gamers before Wiisports or Brain Age. i.e. the huge Halo 2 hype would have got them as Botticus noted above. Or any of the other hugely hyped FPS games over the years.[/QUOTE]

Not necessarily something you can prove. Sorry.

Again, probably even harder to disprove.
 
[quote name='Strell']Not necessarily something you can prove. Sorry.

Again, probably even harder to disprove.[/QUOTE]

True, not worth arguing over. But it's hard to imagine grandparents who love brain age wanting to play a shooter.

At any rate, the Metroid series has never been some huge, system selling game series.


For instance, MP1 was the 10th best selling GC game at 1.49 million, and MP2 didn't break 1 million.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_video_games#Nintendo_GameCube

So it's hard to see MP3 having much potential at bringing in non-gamers or casual gamers even if it was massively hyped.
 
The scan linked to earlier was of the whole review page, rather than just the score/title.

But that is legit, as that matches with the earlier one (though the earlier one was less zoomed in and clearer).
 
[quote name='dmaul1114']True, not worth arguing over. But it's hard to imagine grandparents who love brain age wanting to play a shooter.

At any rate, the Metroid series has never been some huge, system selling game series.


For instance, MP1 was the 10th best selling GC game at 1.49 million, and MP2 didn't break 1 million.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_video_games#Nintendo_GameCube

So it's hard to see MP3 having much potential at bringing in non-gamers or casual gamers even if it was massively hyped.[/quote]

You'll be surprised what two small Japanese men holding a Wii-mote and speaking ENGRISH can do.
 
I think those numbers were for just the States.

Metroid Prime
Japan 0.12
America 1.92
Others 0.73
Total 2.77
Metroid Prime 2: Echoes
Japan0.07
America 0.82
Others 0.37
Total 1.26

http://vgchartz.com/

Because Metroid Prime 1 sold almost 3 million according to these numbers.

Don't immediatly trust wikipedia.

And I think Metroid Prime will sell very well. Look at Mario Party 8 being the best selling game in the series.

Same With Zelda TP with Cube and Wii sales stacked. It outpaced Windwaker back in like February. And a million or so of Windwakers sales came in year 2 or 3 when it dropped to $20.
 
Dang it, I'm so torn. I really want to nab Bioshock next week, but I want Prime 3 terribly bad as well, and I'll be hard-pressed to complete one in a timely fashion, let alone 2, with school starting up on the 28th.
 
[quote name='daroga']Dang it, I'm so torn. I really want to nab Bioshock next week, but I want Prime 3 terribly bad as well, and I'll be hard-pressed to complete one in a timely fashion, let alone 2, with school starting up on the 28th.[/quote]

It's hard to argue against either.
 
Pretty easy for me. I play Bioshock on my sweet laptop before class's at college with a pair of headphones and Prime 3 at home when i'm done for the day for a little after I complete my assignments.
 
RE: WC24

That paragraph is saying this:

"Ignore the hubbub about lack of multiplayer, because who cares? We're getting a quality single player experience, which is what Metroid has always been about."

There's no multiplayer for this game. The sheer amount of hush-hush it would take to keep it under wraps a week before release would be astounding.
 
The paragraph actually says this:
"There will be murmurs about the lack of multiplayer mode and a rather light implementation of WiiConnect24-ignore them. Metroid has always been about quality single-player adventuring. To that end, Corruption exemplifies the Metroid experience better than any game before it. Deeply enjoyable and satisfying, this is the title gamers have been waiting for."

And other places are saying it has something like achievements.
http://forums.nintendo.com/nintendo/board/message?board.id=revolution&message.id=3952192
 
[quote name='j.elles']I think those numbers were for just the States.

Metroid Prime
Japan 0.12
America 1.92
Others 0.73
Total 2.77
Metroid Prime 2: Echoes
Japan0.07
America 0.82
Others 0.37
Total 1.26

http://vgchartz.com/

Because Metroid Prime 1 sold almost 3 million according to these numbers.

Don't immediatly trust wikipedia.

And I think Metroid Prime will sell very well. Look at Mario Party 8 being the best selling game in the series.

Same With Zelda TP with Cube and Wii sales stacked. It outpaced Windwaker back in like February. And a million or so of Windwakers sales came in year 2 or 3 when it dropped to $20.[/QUOTE]

I googled US numbers, as we were talking US marketing and potential sales impact I assumed (as we'd have no idea of level of marketing in other countries).

And I agree it will sell well. It's just not a huge system seller like Smash Bros which sold 6 million here etc.
 
[quote name='daroga']Dang it, I'm so torn. I really want to nab Bioshock next week, but I want Prime 3 terribly bad as well, and I'll be hard-pressed to complete one in a timely fashion, let alone 2, with school starting up on the 28th.[/QUOTE]

For what it's worth, if I had a 360 I'd go for Bioshock first. MP3 looks great, but I'm more interest in Bioshock as it just looks amazing both graphically and from a game design, atmosphere, story etc. perspective. And its something new, rather than a sequel.

But both are absolute must plays for fans of the genres, and both are single player games (so you don't have to worry about falling behind in online skills) so it really doesn't matter which to play first.
 
From what I've gathered, if anything is to be believed, here is how it goes:

- Prime 3 has achievements, but are called "Awards"
- You get 1 of 4 colored tokens (Gold was mentioned) for doing certain things and picking them up (that might be my own take on it)
- You can then show off your tokens from the game to a friend via WiiConnect 24.
- You configure WC24 settings for the game in the game's options menu

My Gamestop has a demo of Prime 3. I didn't check it, but I'll do so tomorrow.
 
Thanks to those who posted the NP review earlier - I was able to read Doomed's attachment of it without any problem.

I cannot wait for this game to come out - I hope I'm not overhyping this in my head, but if this game is as good as the first Prime (the second was great, just not quite as excellent as the first), then my faith in Nintendo still bringing games to Wii for the mainstream (Zelda: TP excluded for the port arguments) will not have been misplaced.

I am seriously more excited for this game than any other this fall, including Smash Bros, Mario Galaxy, Fire Emblem: GoD, and Halo 3. The 28th cannot come soon enough!
 
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