Metroid Prime 3 - Do Mother Brains' Have PMS? - 9.5 From IGN!

Up to Phaaze. I copied my save file just beforehand in case I ever wanted to go back and try and get 100%.

And it looks like % completion is tied to pickups, either on a 1-1 basis, or pretty close. I have 88 pickups and sit at 88% completion going into Phaaze.
 
[quote name='The Crotch']As someone who made sure to get absolutely god damned everything in the last two Primes, this whole "Friend Voucher" thing is pissing me the fuck off. I live in a rural area, therefore I can only get 1/3 of the extras. Yeah, fuck you green tokens.

Edit: I am, however, starting to love using airstrikes on groups of enemies. If only it worked on those phazon ball bastards that show up on Bryyo and Sky Town...[/quote]

This thread is awesome. I had no idea that you could
drain energy from certain enemies (or overload them)
or that you could call airstrikes! Now to try out some more cool stuff.
 
[quote name='lebowsky']This thread is awesome. I had no idea that you could
drain energy from certain enemies (or overload them)
or that you could call airstrikes! Now to try out some more cool stuff.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I was WTF on the air strikes as well. Oh well, I'm already done. Sounds cool, though. I was wondering why I kept getting ship missile upgrades - seemed like a wierd thing for something used in only a few cutscenes.
 
The air strikes can be done by using the command visor on enemies in areas where you have open sky. I didn't even discover them until near the end of the game, myself, and then only by accident when I was killing some lizards on Bryyo. They are fun to use, though. :D
 
Well, that was a great game. Just finished with 100% in about 16 hours. Didn't use any FAQs, either, so I'm sorta pleased with myself. I never figured out the airstrikes, actually. Silly me. Wondered what those ship missile pickups were for. Anyway, great effort by Nintendo. Time to go trade it in for $38.50 credit at EB :)
 
I was expecting a cool ship battle at some point in the game where my missiles would save the day :( I mean, seriously. You've got all those controls in your ship for guns, thrusters, shields. WTF?

...and I only got $37.50 credit instead of $38.50, but it was still a nice return for a game I paid $40 for after my Edge card. Paid for most of Halo 3 :)
 
Does anyone know how to get past the Metalworks area in Bryyo, where the energy tank is? I get the tank (with the screw attack and the moving walls) but I can not figure out how to get to the other side of the room to exit it.
 
Oh, coolest attack you can do near the end of the game: sniping!

X-ray visor + nova beam = zoomed in instant kills! You can use it on various pirate commandos, and also on the Metroids!
 
[quote name='jkircos']Does anyone know how to get past the Metalworks area in Bryyo, where the energy tank is? I get the tank (with the screw attack and the moving walls) but I can not figure out how to get to the other side of the room to exit it.[/QUOTE]

You can't get to it from there, you have to go to the area outside where you had to pull the three levers while fighting the flying pirates and have the ship pick up a big battery (which can then be put in the crane in another room in Bryyo) which will open a passage that leads into the other side of the metal works room where you can spin the bridge around and make it passable.

The bridge connection is pretty pointless, but you have to put the battery in the crane to get a required item anyway.
 
You can also snipe Metroid Hatchers (the ones whose tentacles you normally have to rip off one by one). Just fill her head up with nova beam and she just blows up in about 5 shots.
 
[quote name='The Crotch']Airstrikes are fantastic for crowds. They cover such a huge area, and kill pretty much anything.

Question: Was there a point to waking up that one golem on Bryyo that was lying on its back? Aside from an annoying battle and a phazon pool?

Edit: Sniping is also awesome. It saved my ass during that "disable the shield on the Pirate planet" sequence. Killing every single enemy with one shot each = awesome.[/QUOTE]

Right, I played that whole part with the X-ray shield on. Made jumping around a bitch, but I could pick guys off fairly easily.
 
[quote name='TahoeMax']You can also snipe Metroid Hatchers (the ones whose tentacles you normally have to rip off one by one). Just fill her head up with nova beam and she just blows up in about 5 shots.[/QUOTE]

:shock: I will have to try that some day. I killed my first one before getting the snipe combo, so I never thought to try it.
 
Just beat the seed on the Pirate Homeworld. The Boss was awesome! Now I need to get those energy cells and be on my way to endgame. I only picked up 4 along the way, so I've got 5 to nab.

Might try to finish it tonight.
 
[quote name='TahoeMax']I was expecting a cool ship battle at some point in the game where my missiles would save the day :( I mean, seriously. You've got all those controls in your ship for guns, thrusters, shields. WTF?

...and I only got $37.50 credit instead of $38.50, but it was still a nice return for a game I paid $40 for after my Edge card. Paid for most of Halo 3 :)[/QUOTE]

i never understood what the deal was with the ship missiles. was there any use for them? mine sold for 37.50 as well. i was very pleased.
 
Yeah, I dunno...maybe the airstrikes do more damage or something? I never figured it out.

As far as sniping hatchers, the first one you have to fight without the snipe combo, but there's one on Norion that's potentially optional depending on how you use your energy cells on the Valhalla, and another that you actually fight on the Valhalla. The one on Norion you can fight either before or after you get the snipe combo, but the Valhalla one you definitely have it for (since it's behind a nova beam door).
 
[quote name='TahoeMax']Yeah, I dunno...maybe the airstrikes do more damage or something? I never figured it out.

As far as sniping hatchers, the first one you have to fight without the snipe combo, but there's one on Norion that's potentially optional depending on how you use your energy cells on the Valhalla, and another that you actually fight on the Valhalla. The one on Norion you can fight either before or after you get the snipe combo, but the Valhalla one you definitely have it for (since it's behind a nova beam door).[/QUOTE]

Yeah, of course I fought 2 of them before I had the Nova beam. Then on a whim I turned it on during the Valhalla one and was shocked that I disposed of that formerly pain-in-the-ass miniboss with just a few shots :lol:. I think I only turned it on because there were Metroids in the area (of course sniping works very well on them also).

[quote name='The Crotch']
Is there an item map for the Pirate Homeworld? I've got 10 more items to find between Phaaze and the Homeworld...
[/quote]
Yep, you can look back a few pages for my comment on that. I tried to get all the pickups without it because I assumed there wasn't one. You don't get it from the spiderball-accessible things at the observatory. I spent a few hours needlessly trying to find pickups on the Pirate world by sound (listening for their "buzz"). I had about 2 or 3 left when I finally figured out the map.
Go back to the observatory once you have the Nova beam/X-ray visor and shoot the little tiny blue square at the base of the observatory to open up the Pirate World scanner dealie
. By the way, there are no pickups on Phaaze, so make sure you have 100% before you go there.
 
Just beat it. 75%, 13:13 (with an hour or so of pause time I think, if it counts that).

The ending disappointed me a bit. I'd have liked to have the fight with Dark Samus to be the final thing. It seemed kinda anti-climactic fighting the AU AFTER DS, but whatever. The ending in space with the thumbs up was corny as all get out. Regardless:
The game was a great ride. Now, does it stay in the collection or move on to eBay / Amazon to be rebought at a later date?
 
[quote name='daroga']Just beat it. 75%, 13:13 (with an hour or so of pause time I think, if it counts that).

The ending disappointed me a bit. I'd have liked to have the fight with Dark Samus to be the final thing. It seemed kinda anti-climactic fighting the AU AFTER DS, but whatever. The ending in space with the thumbs up was corny as all get out. Regardless:
The game was a great ride. Now, does it stay in the collection or move on to eBay / Amazon to be rebought at a later date?[/quote]

Sell it and rebuy it later. Might as well since the value is still high. Put it towards Mario Galaxy or something.
 
[quote name='schuerm26']Sell it and rebuy it later. Might as well since the value is still high. Put it towards Mario Galaxy or something.[/quote]I thought about it, but it's only gouing to pull in low $30s after fees on either eBay or Amazon now. Considering I only paid $9 cash for it (after free credit was spent) I might just keep it on my shelf.
 
[quote name='io']Yep, you can look back a few pages for my comment on that. I tried to get all the pickups without it because I assumed there wasn't one. You don't get it from the spiderball-accessible things at the observatory. I spent a few hours needlessly trying to find pickups on the Pirate world by sound (listening for their "buzz"). I had about 2 or 3 left when I finally figured out the map.
Go back to the observatory once you have the Nova beam/X-ray visor and shoot the little tiny blue square at the base of the observatory to open up the Pirate World scanner dealie
. By the way, there are no pickups on Phaaze, so make sure you have 100% before you go there.[/quote]

I have 99 out of 100 pickups and I can't for the life of me figure out where the last one is. I've checked all of my maps and I don't see an item anywhere. The only thing I haven't done is
killed the phazon plant on Pirate Homeworld because I don't have the hyper grapple yet (looked that up on GameFAQs after trying to destroy it every way possible. I know there is a door behind that plant.
I'm hoping that is the last little puzzle I have to solve to get 100% because I'm too close to give up now.
 
[quote name='clockworkgreen']I'd think the item you mention will complete things.[/quote]Exactly. Those suit upgrades count as pickups unless I'm mistaken.

Anyone looking for a cheapish copy of the game, let me know. :)
 
[quote name='daroga']I thought about it, but it's only gouing to pull in low $30s after fees on either eBay or Amazon now. Considering I only paid $9 cash for it (after free credit was spent) I might just keep it on my shelf.[/quote]That's it? Well, mine only cost me $30 in the first place, so I'll just keep it then, unless I decide to go with $37.50 at EB.

Took out the Leviathan on the Pirate Homeworld, good times there. Strangely, the fight leading to that one was about 5 times harder (I ended with 71 energy in my last tank out of 8 or 9, whatever I have now).

Suppose I should ask again, for clarification - will I be required to visit Valhalla soon, or should I go there before progressing?
 
Yeah, you'll need to go there. Dunno how many energy cells you have, but you can finish the game with 5 of them if you put them in the right places. The other 4 are used to get 2 pickups.
 
[quote name='TahoeMax']Yeah, you'll need to go there. Dunno how many energy cells you have, but you can finish the game with 5 of them if you put them in the right places. The other 4 are used to get 2 pickups.[/quote]I think I have 5, so that'll probably do it. I do need two more pickups to hit 75% though. Might need to take care of that.
 
Did someone mention in this thread that one time they saved, and it reset the game?

That happened to me recently. It still saved, even though the animation didn't complete.

Really liking this game.
 
I'm playing Metroid Prime 3-two or three hours in, I'm on the surface of the (first?) planet. So far I hate it. The control is hideous, and it's just a completely generic FPS. There isn't the slightest bit of what made the Metroid games (including Metroid Prime) fun---it's just completely straight forward "shoot stuff, move to another room", only with the worst controls I can recall playing in an FPS (made even more fun during the day when I spin in circles or the view randomly jumps around because of sunlight).

So...does this actually get fun at some point? Turn into an actual Metroid game? The combat stinks, and exploration (if there was any) isn't much fun since movement's so hard. Really glad I didn't buy it...

So far it actually reminds me of Metroid Prime Hunter for the exact same reasons...

Just wondering if this is worth sticking with, or if I don't like it yet, I'm never going to like it. (I've never not loved a Metroid game instantly...aside from Hunters, which IMO ISN'T a Metroid game).
 
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There's a thread already: http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=142432
 
[quote name='McNutsack']The short answer:
No.

Never bothered to play past 2 hours.[/QUOTE]


Thanks, that's what I figured. I don't want to force myself to keep playing when I've got a huge backlog thanks to Toys R Us :)

[quote name='evilmax17']Did you change the control sensitivity to Expert?[/QUOTE]

No...that's the Basic/Standard/Advanced sensitivity? Looks like that changes how soon you start scrolling the screen around? I've set it to advanced, with free look off. I'll mess around a bit more. Wish you could plug in a Classic Controller!
 
[quote name='Wolfpup']No...that's the Basic/Standard/Advanced sensitivity? Looks like that changes how soon you start scrolling the screen around? I've set it to advanced, with free look off. I'll mess around a bit more. Wish you could plug in a Classic Controller![/quote]
Yeah, I meant Advanced.

If you were playing on Basic, then it might have felt a little clunky. Advanced sensitivity makes looking around and turning much smoother.

Try playing with free look on. That means that when you lock onto enemies with the Z-button, you can still aim wherever you want, but that enemy becomes your central pivot point. This way you can easily circle around them, but still shoot wherever you want.
 
[quote name='evilmax17']Yeah, I meant Advanced.

If you were playing on Basic, then it might have felt a little clunky. Advanced sensitivity makes looking around and turning much smoother.

Try playing with free look on. That means that when you lock onto enemies with the Z-button, you can still aim wherever you want, but that enemy becomes your central pivot point. This way you can easily circle around them, but still shoot wherever you want.[/quote]Bingo.

Also on Bryyo (the first real planet you hit) is where the game stops feeling like Halo and shows its Metroid heritage. It just takes a little setting up. Trust me, by the time you're done with the game you'll have played one of the better games in the Metroid series (taken not just from my limited experience with them, but from good friends who love most of the games in the franchise).

But in the end, if it's really not your cup of tea, move on. I've stopped forcing myself to play games I wasn't digging regardless of how much people on the intrawebz were praising them *cough*BioShock*cough*.
 
WDD - Wiimote Deficit Disorder

- A syndrome, usually diagnosed in sucky gamers, characterized by a persistent pattern of incompetence when handling the Wiimote.
 
I have finished Bryyo, and OP, I share your sentiments exactly. I haven't played the game in over two weeks. Very little Metroid feeling
 
Setting the sensitivity to advanced, and the freelook to off made the controls more tolerable for me, though nowhere near as good as Metroid Prime. I'm still not liking the game itself though. Still doesn't seem anything like Metroid at all. Does it eventually change? (EDIT: Sounds like some people feel that it does, others don't)

At any rate, thanks for the advice (and everyone play with the sensitivity settings if you get this game!).

I think I'm probably done-to me this seems like exactly what I was scared the first one was going to be-that it would just be an FPS, and have bad control. The completely weird thing is they nailed it so much better on their first try! I'm four hours in now, and haven't enjoyed any of it.

Good advice about just moving on. Ironically Bioshock is one of the games I hope to move on to :)

Semi-different topic, but this game is an example of why I think we have a serious issue with game critics. Even just going by the responses in this thread, it's clear there should have been a wide variety of scores for this game. If this were a movie, I bet you'd have some 1 and 2 star reviews, and some 4 star. But this game's reviews are universally positive. I've seen this kind of thing too much (in both directions). I'm not exactly sure what it means, but I do think it's some kind of an indication about the immaturity of the critical scene for games right now.

The focus on previews instead of reviews is probably another sign of an immaturity...but hey, we're still enjoying a young medium :)
 
[quote name='daroga']Just beat it. 75%, 13:13 (with an hour or so of pause time I think, if it counts that).

The ending disappointed me a bit. I'd have liked to have the fight with Dark Samus to be the final thing. It seemed kinda anti-climactic fighting the AU AFTER DS, but whatever. The ending in space with the thumbs up was corny as all get out. Regardless:
The game was a great ride. Now, does it stay in the collection or move on to eBay / Amazon to be rebought at a later date?[/QUOTE]

I don't like getting rid of games, but after I beat this one I had little attachment to it. The fact that there are a bunch of games I want to get this holiday gave me the final push to trade it in. Bought it for $40 and traded it in for $35.

Maybe when it hits budget and I have no other games to play I'll get it again.
 
I absolutely knew this was a Wolfpup thread before I came into it.

It had "worthless bitch" written all over it.

And a visit from Chris in Cali!

Gosh, we could have a tea party.
 
[quote name='The Crotch']1: Didn't a few sites complain about an "energy cell fetch-quest"? Weird. I ran into all but one of them completely on my own. This further reinforces mytheory that people that aren't me suck at videogames..[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I think they said something about a big fetch-quest near the end. Except for running around fetching all the pickups to get 100% I didn't find the game to have any (overwhelming) aspects of backtracking or fetching. There was, like, one slightly tricky energy cell and you only needed to get that for the 100%. And I enjoyed that aspect of the game (puzzle solving) more than the combat and boss fights, so I wish there had been much more of it.
 
I personally loved it and would easily rate it as my favorite of the Metroid Prime series.

Felt very much like a Metroid game once I got to Bryyo, controls were great after a couple hours to adapt.

Solid 9.5/10 for me.
 
[quote name='Wolfpup']Setting the sensitivity to advanced, and the freelook to off made the controls more tolerable for me, though nowhere near as good as Metroid Prime. I'm still not liking the game itself though. Still doesn't seem anything like Metroid at all. Does it eventually change? (EDIT: Sounds like some people feel that it does, others don't)

At any rate, thanks for the advice (and everyone play with the sensitivity settings if you get this game!).

I think I'm probably done-to me this seems like exactly what I was scared the first one was going to be-that it would just be an FPS, and have bad control. The completely weird thing is they nailed it so much better on their first try! I'm four hours in now, and haven't enjoyed any of it.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, there are a lot of things that are probably legit complaints about this game, but -- having stuck it on Advanced, with Free Look -- the controls are not one of them. There's no reason to keep plugging away at a game you're not enjoying, but I'm sorry to say, this one controls SO much better than the first Prime that if you're not feeling' it, it's probably you. Nothing wrong with that: GTA bores me to tears, and I can't stand God of War or Ninja Gaiden, but my problems with those games aren't really direct contradictions of what most people probably consider the single best aspect of the game.

[quote name='Wolfpup']Semi-different topic, but this game is an example of why I think we have a serious issue with game critics. Even just going by the responses in this thread, it's clear there should have been a wide variety of scores for this game. If this were a movie, I bet you'd have some 1 and 2 star reviews, and some 4 star. But this game's reviews are universally positive. I've seen this kind of thing too much (in both directions). I'm not exactly sure what it means, but I do think it's some kind of an indication about the immaturity of the critical scene for games right now.

The focus on previews instead of reviews is probably another sign of an immaturity...but hey, we're still enjoying a young medium :)[/QUOTE]

I don't know. Did literature or film or music need some contrarian telling everybody that Dante is a hack or Citizen Kane is heavy-handed pap or the Mozart is bombastic and unsubtle? Not really. Those media have just established (for the most part) that a genuine understanding of the form requires a tremendous amount of training and knowledge, and that just being a guy who read the last Harry Potter book doesn't necessarily give your opinion much weight when it comes to deconstructing Foucault.

That said, I totally agree about the "preview fetish" in this industry.
 
I've played all 3 primes and this one felt just as "Metroidy" as the others, besides maybe the opening part. The controls are excellent and you should have them down by the end of the opening section.
 
[quote name='daroga']
But in the end, if it's really not your cup of tea, move on. I've stopped forcing myself to play games I wasn't digging regardless of how much people on the intrawebz were praising them *cough*BioShock*cough*.[/QUOTE]

No matter how good the game is, someone will be there to dislike it.
 
I didn't like it at first either, but trust me, it does get better. In fact, I shared your exact same sentiments and almost gave up on the game entirely. Once you get used to the controls and get a little deeper into Bryyo, the game picks up and is very enjoyable.
 
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