MGS4 Headed to Xbox 360

I've never seen MGS3's story spoiled.

So, unless he pulls a "Raiden" on us, I wouldn't worry about that.

Just avoid the most obvious threads/webpages about the game.
 
[quote name='Graystone']MGS4 is the only reason I have for slightly wanting a PS3. If it comes to 360 that would be nice.[/quote]
I feel the exact same way. This might be a great way to keep $600 in my pocket.

Then again, there are some sony exclusives I would want, so you never know. Maybe at a price drop.
 
[quote name='zewone']I've never seen MGS3's story spoiled.

So, unless he pulls a "Raiden" on us, I wouldn't worry about that.

Just avoid the most obvious threads/webpages about the game.[/QUOTE]

Well, I remember the MGS3 bosses being leaked before release. Then a trailer that came out at TGS, I believe, confirmed that leak. The trailer also gave away the general plotline, outside of a few surprises at the end. But that wasn't the fault of fans giving away spoilers, that was Kojima Productions purposely spoiling most of the game through TGS/E3 trailers. I guess it was partly my fault for watching these trailers, but, in the past, trailers have been nothing more than a tease, and did not reveal as much as the MGS3 trailers did.
 
We can't forget that the amount of cliches, inconsistencies, and lameness in a Kojima story is directly proportional to how far "into the future" the game is set. Since Snake is so old in this one, expect something that resembles a Bruckheimer/Uwe Boll joint.
 
This was predictable but to you idiots blabbing about blu-ray and uncompressed textures are fucking tards. You got 512mb's of ram on both consoles your assets on screen are liimited to that. Using uncompressed textures leads to alot of unnecesary overhead and destroy's performance with no gain in image quality. Crysis uses compressed textures and sounds, it also looks way better than mgs4 will ever look. This is not a whack against consoles just some perspective.
 
[quote name='BULL_Ship']This was predictable but to you idiots blabbing about blu-ray and uncompressed textures are fucking tards. You got 512mb's of ram on both consoles your assets on screen are liimited to that. Using uncompressed textures leads to alot of unnecesary overhead and destroy's performance with no gain in image quality. Crysis uses compressed textures and sounds, it also looks way better than mgs4 will ever look. This is not a whack against consoles just some perspective.[/quote]

Sigh, where have you been when this was all discussed before.

Uncompressed audio and compressed audio. Ok, we know the difference.

Uncompressed textures? No one is ever going to use fully uncompressed textures. Just compressed much less.
The 512MB system memory doesn't matter anymore now that texture streaming has been developed and starting to be used on both 360 and PS3 (GoW, Lair).

So stop lurking threads, and stfu.

Hehe, that's the first time I've ever said that.

EDIT: Never mind, didn't mean to say stfu. But just be quiet.
 
Reality's Fringe;2965460]We can't forget that the amount of cliches said:
blasphemy!

anyway, the game is actually only a couple years into the future. Snake looks old due to accelerated aging, but, as you can see, the rest of the cast has hardly aged.
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[quote name='CappyCobra']MGS I know we have a forbidden love being an American gaming system and all,[/QUOTE]
The thing is, MGS is a much, much more important and popular franchise in the US than it is in Japan. So, the prospects for the series in the US are really paramount to Konami.
 
Wow thats a big surprise who didn't see that coming? :roll: I'll still get MGS4 and MGS4 SUB whatever when it comes out like I have done since MGS2. I will get the BEST version of the game, if it be on the PS3 or X360 like I do with all games that are multi platform. I could really care less what system it is on or if it's exclusive w/e. It's all about first party titles this gen and IMO Sony wins in that department. I'd love to see an Ico/SOTC game from Sony. Also I am not a fan boy as I just stated I own both a PS3/X360 I just feel Sony has better first part titles.
 
I don't understand why people think that MGS4 won't sell well on 360 because MGS2 didn't sell well on XBox. I don't think it has anything to do with the type of people that buy thier respective consoles. I owned a PS2, XBox and Gamecube, I bought MGS2 on PS2 and felt no need to rebuy it on XBox when it came out.

If I hadn't bought it on PS2, I would have bought it on XBox

The biggest problem is affordability this generation. Last generation it cost me about $550 to have all 3 consoles within a year or so of thier launches. It costs $600 alone for a fucking PS3 and $400 for a 360. Gamers can really only afford to have a 360 or a PS3, the prices are too much at this point to have both.

Since many gamers had multiple systems last gen, with an outrageous amount of people having a PS2, it wasn't shocking that the XBox version of MGS2 didn't sell nearly as well as the PS2 version since it came out a year later.

WHEN MGS4 comes out on 360, it will sell like hotcakes.
 
I've never bought a hotcake.

Also, I've just read some rumors that Uncharted is being ported to 360 sometime in Fall 08.
 
[quote name='ChaoticClimax']I don't understand why people think that MGS4 won't sell well on 360 because MGS2 didn't sell well on XBox. I don't think it has anything to do with the type of people that buy thier respective consoles. I owned a PS2, XBox and Gamecube, I bought MGS2 on PS2 and felt no need to rebuy it on XBox when it came out.

If I hadn't bought it on PS2, I would have bought it on XBox

The biggest problem is affordability this generation. Last generation it cost me about $550 to have all 3 consoles within a year or so of thier launches. It costs $600 alone for a fucking PS3 and $400 for a 360. Gamers can really only afford to have a 360 or a PS3, the prices are too much at this point to have both.

Since many gamers had multiple systems last gen, with an outrageous amount of people having a PS2, it wasn't shocking that the XBox version of MGS2 didn't sell nearly as well as the PS2 version since it came out a year later.

WHEN MGS4 comes out on 360, it will sell like hotcakes.[/QUOTE]
HA HA I don't get your logic ^___^
 
[quote name='dallow']I've never bought a hotcake.

Also, I've just read some rumors that Uncharted is being ported to 360 sometime in Fall 08.[/quote]

Come to think of it, I don't even know what a hotcake is. I've always thought of it as some sort of pancake or a funnel cake maybe. I dunno why those would sell well though, what a stupid old saying.
 
[quote name='dallow']I've never bought a hotcake.

Also, I've just read some rumors that Uncharted is being ported to 360 sometime in Fall 08.[/QUOTE]
It happened because the PS3 has already failed. Soon Sony will start selling hotcakes instead of PS3's since those seem to sell better.
 
I'm glad and sad about this at the same time. On the one hand, I recently came to terms with the fact that I'll probably eventually buy a PS3 so this kind of throws that into flux some. On the other hand, I wuv my 360 and I see MGS4 going multiplatform as a good thing. Now, if Uncharted actually were to come to 360 (I personally doubt that, but who knows anymore?) then I have literally no reason I can think of to buy a PS3. I mean, FFXIII looks nice, but I've lived without all the previous FF games, I think I can suffer through missing another one (well, more like 10 with the same name).
 
[quote name='graf1k']Now, if Uncharted actually were to come to 360 (I personally doubt that, but who knows anymore?) then I have literally no reason I can think of to buy a PS3.[/QUOTE]
It was a joke. Uncharted will never be on 360. Ever.

It is being made by Naughty Dog and I'm pretty sure Sony owns them.
 
[quote name='whoknows']It was a joke. Uncharted will never be on 360. Ever.

It is being made by Naughty Dog and I'm pretty sure Sony owns them.[/quote]

Yeah, I thought as much (I wasn't sure Sony owns them but knew they were closely linked like Insomniac) but your right, Sony owns them. Still, I think I require more than Uncharted right now to get me to buy a PS3 and, at least for me, Lair and Heavenly Sword do absolutely nothing. Now, if we were to see a next-gen Twisted Metal or when the inevitable God of War 3 hits, that changes things slightly.
 
I'm not buying a PS3 till it drops to $200 or less. Thanks for the info as this will save me a good $300+ investment time.
 
[quote name='Monsta Mack']I'm not buying a PS3 till it drops to $200 or less. Thanks for the info as this will save me a good $300+ investment time.[/QUOTE]
What are you sucking ohhh I mean smoking ?
 
[quote name='jhaymond1']Good luck with 200 or less buddy..gonna wait until PS4 is out?[/QUOTE]

At this rate? Probably. My PS2 serves all my needs right now, and the 360 has all the must haves (atleast for me) next gen wise. I also have a Wii for the obscure games. I don't have a high def TV and I don't want to blow money on blue ray DVDS when I'm content with normal DVDS. Yeah, so I am content without a PS3.

I liked Snake Eater and I'm glad it will go to the 360 since that's the only PS3 "exclusive" that I really wanted, besides God of War 3.
 
[quote name='dallow']So there will be online play for MGS4???[/QUOTE]
nope the dude just pull it out of his own ass. ^__^;
 
I thought they talked about having an online mode on the kojima podcast? Maybe as a possibility, but not top priority.

And I'm another that will wait to buy a Sub $200 PS3. I got my PS2 slim for $50 and I'm mighty happy with it, the PS3 will be the same way, i'll enjoy all it's exclusives years later for much cheaper.
 
[quote name='nonggame']nope the dude just pull it out of his own ass. ^__^;[/quote]

Yes I did.

There is more in there, just dig!:booty::booty::booty:

I should say instead, I hope there is online play so that I can play online with this bad boy. *Does not have PSP to play MGS online with*
 
I thought the whole thing with Subsistence was that it was a pre-test for MGS4.

MGO was pretty fun, I'd like to see it back. hopefully it'll be server hosted like other PS3 games.
 
[quote name='dpatel']..Because there is no possibility that more, better games will come in the future. I don't think any of us knew about: Ratchet, Jak, Socom, DMC, GoW, Ico, SoTC, Killzone, while we were playing Fantavision.[/quote]


no shit man people who think gams like mgs, final fantasy and dmc going to the 360 will be the end of sony are freakin idiots. those games may have done alot for sony in the past but they wont make or break the system. in the end peopel will buy either system and a ps3 price drop is coming. even without the usual exclusives sony still has alot of games in their own arsenal that will more than sell the system not to mention free net play and hopefully they wont gouge their suporters with lame online purchases the may microsoft does.



its still too early to say whats goign to happen with the ps3 they put out an espensive system that up till now we dont knwo what its fuly capable of and wont know till this fall and into next year. but they ahve all the tools there to impress in truly innovate and take gaming to new levels of realism and they have their own stable of games that will more than help them do fine in the console wars. im all for a ps3 once the price goes down as are many sony fans and gaming fans and when that happens things will change though they probably wont be in first place.


i personally cant wait to see god of war 3 ratchet and sly cooper on the ps3. they made miracles with that lillte black box in the ps2 era so who knows what will happen with the ps3.
 
1) Why does the game need so much storage? Is it for in-game video? Codec flirtations?

2) Except for the Ac!d series, Metal Gear has left me cold. I can't follow the plot, I get bored through all the dialogue, and the gameplay is often too trial and error or just plain boring micromanaging (camo colors/food/injuries in MGS3). Why was this even called a system seller?

BTW I always love the trailers leading up to the release of a MG game. The MGS4 trailer at last year's E3, up on a huge sceen with booming sound, was one of the best things there.
 
[quote name='jhaymond1']Good luck with 200 or less buddy..gonna wait until PS4 is out?[/quote]

Funny you should mention that, as my first reaction to the PS3 was always "I'll get a PS3 when the PS4 is coming out."
 
[quote name='Apossum']I thought the whole thing with Subsistence was that it was a pre-test for MGS4.[/QUOTE]
And the Subsistance servers were shut down after barely a year of operation. I took that as a bad sign in regards to it's popularity.
 
[quote name='CoffeeEdge']And the Subsistance servers were shut down after barely a year of operation. I took that as a bad sign in regards to it's popularity.[/QUOTE]

He's already said he's more than pleased with MGO's success. MGS4 will have online play, I just hope they didn't purposely leave it out of the regular edition to have it as an 'addition' to the Sub-version.
 
So is this 'announcement' legit or total bullshit?

Because the clip from cheapyD's post, which is no longer available on the original site due to the alleged "Cease and Desist" from Sony, looks like the guy just copied verbatim (with MGS2 changed to MGS4, etc.) the story on MGS2 Substance that someone else posted a link to.

And even if it is legit (I'm guessing MGS4 will definitely be coming out, in one form or another, on 360), will it be released a year after the PS3 'original' release? From the post censored ramblings in the guy's article, he seems to be stating that Konami and Sony have an exclusivity clause in whatever contract they have for Metal Gear Solid 4, which is for a year.

So most likely we will be getting a 360 version like we did for MGS2 for Xbox (or Subsistence "rerelease" for PS2), juiced up with added bits.
 
An added benefit to having MGS4 on 360 would be that with the live system, the multiplayer won't disappear in under a year.. Still bitter about subsitence, I loved the multiplayer, and it sucks that the servers were removed so soon. The joys of Sony online..
 
[quote name='jhaymond1']Good luck with 200 or less buddy..gonna wait until PS4 is out?[/quote]

Shit, I've already seen ads asking $500-550 (or less) for a PS3 premium on craigslist (often with games and accessories), probably similar on eBay.

I know I saw one just a couple of days ago in LA games n toys section, with a used Premium PS3 and either 2 or 3 games, plus extra controller and maybe the memory card trasnfer thingy or a charge kit or something, and they were asking $500 for the whole thing.

So even if it was 2 crappy games (can't remember which ones), with an extra controller and who knows what else, you are looking at paying $170 plus tax or more, let's just say that's $150 worth of stuff.

So the $500 can really be viewed as $350 for the system. And you didn't even pay the tax, which in L.A. at 8.25% is another $50 on that $600 PS3. So $500 for $800+ retail. Give it a year or two and I'm sure you will see used PS3's for $250 or even sub $200.

On a side note, I'm just really happy with the price I paid, $0, extra controller, $0. Plus I've been picking up games for cheap via craigslist...paid $25 tops for each of 3 games (Resistance, Marvel UA, and Motorstorm). Finally set the system up last night, and to be honest, I was pretty damn disappointed with Resistance. I'm not very far in the game, but I guess I was just expecting a LOT more visually. Maybe the online videos I've seen of the latest PC shooters or X360 has just spoiled me, but so far I'd say it's pretty bland both eyecandy-wise, story-wise and gameplay-wise.

I have a really nice Sony high def TV, max is 720p/1080i, I have it running on the official Sony component cables, and I set the PS3 to go to the max resolution of 1080i. I see the game is listed at max 720p, should I set the system to 720p instead of 1080i?

Hopefully Marvel UA will be a lot more visually appealing, as I saw the video comparing Wii/360/PS3 versions and the PS3 was clearly nicer. Not that visuals/resolution is all that important, but the way Sony and some people carry on about them religiously and how amazing the PS3 is visually, I expect it to be just a notch below freaking realistic quality 3-D holograms!
 
[quote name='karkyco']So is this 'announcement' legit or total bullshit?

Because the clip from cheapyD's post, which is no longer available on the original site due to the alleged "Cease and Desist" from Sony, looks like the guy just copied verbatim (with MGS2 changed to MGS4, etc.) the story on MGS2 Substance that someone else posted a link to.

And even if it is legit (I'm guessing MGS4 will definitely be coming out, in one form or another, on 360), will it be released a year after the PS3 'original' release? From the post censored ramblings in the guy's article, he seems to be stating that Konami and Sony have an exclusivity clause in whatever contract they have for Metal Gear Solid 4, which is for a year.

So most likely we will be getting a 360 version like we did for MGS2 for Xbox (or Subsistence "rerelease" for PS2), juiced up with added bits.[/QUOTE]

This is the original Destructoid story:

I have been waiting for many months to finally say this, and today is the day. Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots will not be a PS3 exclusive after all. It has been confirmed that it will make its way to the Xbox 360 in 2008.
There is no true date set for the release at this point, but November of 2008 has been mentioned. This is not set in stone as Konami is working with Microsoft to bring the date forward as much as possible.

MGS4 for the 360 will also come with exclusive content and gameplay that will not be in the PS3 version of the game. Some of this content is VR missions, as well as "Snake Tales" or "Snake in the Valley" (depending on where you live), which will let you go on objective based missions, some of which are very lengthy. These are the first two bonuses to emerge so far, but be ready to expect even more.

Konami is also in talks with Nintendo to bring a Metal Gear Solid game to the Wii. MGS4 would obviously have to be slimmed down if the chose to port the title to Nintendo's console. We already know that Snake will be a playable character in Super Smash Bros., so this (along with the 360 news) doesn't come as much of a surprise.
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This is the original IGN story:

At the end of 2001, one of the biggest titles to be released for any of the current generation consoles was Metal Gear Solid 2. As the follow up to the blockbuster smash hit PSX title Metal Gear Solid, it went on to sell extremely well and be played by many PS2 fans. However, sole owners of GameCube and Xbox would have to do without it. Fortunately, Konami wasn't completely blind to the fact that more gamers deserved to play the epic title, and it released Metal Gear Solid 2: Substance for the Xbox a year later in November 2002. This came with new content additions including VR missions and other bonus gameplay like Snake Tales, which lets you go on more objective-based missions -- some quite lengthy. So, there's no question that Metal Gear Solid 2: Substance comes packed with more content than the original MGS2 on PS2.

Seemingly, the Xbox Metal Gear would have been the one to buy, but Konami responded quickly by releasing the slightly beefed up Metal Gear Solid 2: Substance for PS2 this March.

There are questions that need answering then. Is the new content in the PS2 substantial (no pun intended)? How does it sound on Xbox? Which version has the best graphics? We will answer all these questions and more in the following head-to-head comparison. If you want the best version of Metal Gear, this is the place to find all the details you'll need to make that decision.
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I can see MAYBE one line of similarity. Yeah, realy copy and paste job there.:roll:
 
[quote name='evanft']
I can see MAYBE one line of similarity. Yeah, realy copy and paste job there.:roll:[/quote]

Heh, my bad. Sorry, I read them pages back and the "Snake Tales" really stood out, particularly since wasn't that portion total bullshit in the original story?

Mentioning something like that, even as a joke or homage to the original article, doesn't do wonders for credibility.

But I'm guessing we'll have confirmation in one way or another soon enough.
 
[quote name='karkyco']Heh, my bad. Sorry, I read them pages back and the "Snake Tales" really stood out, particularly since wasn't that portion total bullshit in the original story?

Mentioning something like that, even as a joke or homage to the original article, doesn't do wonders for credibility.

But I'm guessing we'll have confirmation in one way or another soon enough.[/QUOTE]

Dude, it's Destructoid. :bouncy:
 
[quote name='evanft']This is the original Destructoid story:

This is the original IGN story:

I can see MAYBE one line of similarity. Yeah, realy copy and paste job there.:roll:[/QUOTE]Oh wow, you're right. It really is true. OH WAIT! You compared the wrong article.

The post that started it all was forums.xbox.com where a member claimed that Super Play Magazine (of MGS3 fame) had said the following:

"At the end of 2007, one of the biggest titles to be released for any of the current generation consoles is Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots. As the follow up to the blockbuster smash hit PS2 title Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater, it will problably sell extremely well and be played by many PS3 fans. However, sole owners of Wii and Xbox 360 would have to do without it. Fortunately, Konami isn´t completely blind to the fact that more gamers deserve to play this epic title, and it is now confirmed that Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots for the Xbox 360 will launch a year later in November 2008. It will come with new content additions including VR missions and other bonus gameplay like Snake Tales, which lets you go on more objective-based missions -- some quite lengthy. So, there's no question that Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots for the Xbox 360 comes packed with more content than the original PS3-version.

Seemingly, the Xbox 360 Metal Gear would have been the one to wait for, but Konami respond by releasing the slightly beefed up Metal Gear Solid 4 for PS3 as well."

http://forums.xbox.com/12756627/ShowPost.aspx

Destructoid just summarized the article, as this was the source.
 
No, for the last time, those two things are unrelated. There was the copy-and-paste job, and then there was the claim by the (in the past reputable) Destrctoid writer that he has insider info.

Not that it's anymore valid, but there are two different things going on here.
 
[quote name='Thomas96']I think its a definite that day one... this game will only be on PS3.[/QUOTE]

I'd switch that to a "probably", perhaps a "most likely", but I had hoped people were smart enough to realize that by now, there is no "definite" in the VG industry until it happens.

MGS4 is going to cost Konami huge, HUGE. At this point, releasing it on PS3 alone would be devastating to Konami. You really didn't think the fact that it's releasing in 2008 was mearly because "it's not finished", right?
 
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