MMA (Mixed Martial Arts) Thread: UFC/Strikeforce

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[quote name='MillerTime2523']Meh, I didn't really like him in the first place, and that was just a bitch move. At least show some respect and stick around after the match.

And he didn't only got beat, he got dominated. Silva made him his bitch.

AND, for someone who prides himself on having heart to just beg for mercy before Silva even attempted to attack him again was dissappointing. Basically, this was not the way I was hoping the fight to end at all.

Okay fight, 4th round was good but the rest was meh. Glad Penn pulled it off.[/QUOTE]

Forrest probably left because he was embarrassed but he shouldn't be. The guy just fought the best P4P fighter, that's heart right there. Hopefully Forrest can bounce back soon.
 
[quote name='MillerTime2523']Yeah, that was awesome, great job by the aussie with the ground game, and to be honest I'm shocked roop made it out of the first round after that huge flurry of punches.

He's like what 3-0? I think he's got a great future in MMA for sure.

Also, forgot who was fighting, but I didn't hear anything from you guys on that early call. (sadollah I think his name was?) thoughts on that? Good call or bad call by the ref?[/QUOTE]

Yeah i give a lot of credit to Roop for getting out of the 1st and coming back. It just didn't go his way. I LOVED THAT FIGHT though.

The Sadollah fight was probably stopped prematurely but what can you do. The Ref is right there and he made a call.

Wish it didn't happen but I guess that's why I'm not a ref cause I'd probably let it go till someone stops breathing LOL.

[quote name='blueweltall']Forrest probably left because he was embarrassed but he shouldn't be. The guy just fought the best P4P fighter, that's heart right there. Hopefully Forrest can bounce back soon.[/QUOTE]

Dana said in the Post-Fight News conference that Forrest is an EMOTIONAL guy and thought he was gonna win.

I guess he acted similarly when he lost to Rashad. Still gotta give credit to Forrest.

Silva just makes the top fighters look BAD & that's why hes the P4P best fighter in the world.
 
[quote name='Ronzilla']Yeah i give a lot of credit to Roop for getting out of the 1st and coming back. It just didn't go his way. I LOVED THAT FIGHT though.

The Sadollah fight was probably stopped prematurely but what can you do. The Ref is right there and he made a call.

Wish it didn't happen but I guess that's why I'm not a ref cause I'd probably let it go till someone stops breathing LOL.



Dana said in the Post-Fight News conference that Forrest is an EMOTIONAL guy and thought he was gonna win.

I guess he acted similarly when he lost to Rashad. Still gotta give credit to Forrest.

Silva just makes the top fighters look BAD & that's why hes the P4P best fighter in the world.[/QUOTE]

Yeah that is true, I remember when he broke down in the cage after losing to Jardine.
 
[quote name='blueweltall']Yeah that is true, I remember when he broke down in the cage after losing to Jardine.[/QUOTE]

That's right. He broke down after that fight too. Dana said that he hasn't seen Forrest. I guess he "literally" left the building.
 
My opinion on the Sadollah stoppage is that it was a bit early, but it wouldn't have changed the outcome. Sadollah charged in like an idiot and took a couple punches. Then, he tried to clinch, and took 4-5 uppercuts without ever thinking "gee, maybe I should try blocking one of these". Finally, one of them dropped him to his knees.

Yes, he attempted to get back up, but nobody knows how together he was at that point. And with Hendricks wailing away, the fight may have only lasted another 10 seconds. To me, that's what Sadollah gets for fighting a wild fight.
 
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Silva is the fucking man. I want to watch that fight again :lol:
 
Hopefully someone has a gif up shortly of Silva "dance dodging" Griffin's punches, I have to add it to add it to the collection :cool:

EDIT: There is one, Thanks MillerTime
 
Dan Henderson vs. Anderson Silva @ 185 for his next fight says Dana White at the press confernece.

As for GSP and Penn, it should be interesting to see how that plays out.
 
[quote name='MillerTime2523']Meh, I didn't really like him in the first place, and that was just a bitch move. At least show some respect and stick around after the match.

And he didn't only got beat, he got dominated. Silva made him his bitch.

AND, for someone who prides himself on having heart to just beg for mercy before Silva even attempted to attack him again was dissappointing. Basically, this was not the way I was hoping the fight to end at all.

Okay fight, 4th round was good but the rest was meh. Glad Penn pulled it off.[/QUOTE]A few people on the sherdog forums are saying that he got a broken jaw. So assuming that really happened then he couldn't continue the fight then when it was done he left with the quickness to get some medical attention.
 
I really don't know what to make of the Forrest / Anderson fight. I'd have to see it again, but the fight seriously seemed like it was taking place at .75 speed. It didn't look like a real fight.

I obviously know better, and don't believe it was in the slightest, but it really did look fixed.
 
[quote name='Matt Young']I liked how Silva had Assassin's Creed 2 (double the double-ass) on his ass.[/QUOTE]

He's had a fairly long association with Ubisoft. He had Rainbow Six Vegas 2 on his tights a couple of years ago right before that game came out.
 
I think Silva is a showboating asshole, Forrest still quit like a little girly man(me thinks he took a dive) I can't wait to watch hendo hold him down and knock that shit eating grin off his face. Even know he probobly won't. Oh well........ I miss PRIDE.
 
[quote name='FowlBeast']I think Silva is a showboating asshole, Forrest still quit like a little girly man(me thinks he took a dive) I can't wait to watch hendo hold him down and knock that shit eating grin off his face. Even know he probobly won't. Oh well........ I miss PRIDE.[/QUOTE]

What's wrong with showboating? Unless you don't like it when a black guy does it...
 
[quote name='rickshankshaw']What's wrong with showboating? Unless you don't like it when a black guy does it...[/QUOTE]

WTF??? What kind of piece of shit comment is this? Even referring to Silva as a "black guy" is inaccurate. He's Brazilian. So, if you're thinking you can claim him as one of "your own", you're an idiot.

Normally, I'm not a fan of the showboating, but last night, Forrest egged him on and completely brought it on himself. What I cannot understand is if Griffin was really hurt from the first couple times Silva hit him good, why the hell would he taunt him and then aggressively come after him?

The only thing I can think of is if he did really get his jaw broken early in the fight, he would know that he needed to end it soon if he wanted a chance at winning. Then, when Silva bopped him that one last time, it was just too much, and he couldn't continue. That's the only sense I can make out of Forrest's nonsensical strategy.
 
Oh, and for anyone who thinks the fight was fixed or that Forrest took a dive, you're nuts. 1. As much as a big win from Anderson Silva was a reason for Dana to puff out his chest over the whole Fedor issue, Forrest Griffin is arguably the UFC's most popular fighter in terms of brand recognition. No way you have him lose in the first round like that.

If the fight was going to be fixed, it would have been an epic war, lasting at least 2.5 rounds. Then, if Silva came out on top you could say he stood toe to toe with one of the UFC's toughest fighters and he beat him at his own game. This fight was just weird, and like I've told a lot of people, it still didn't even showcase the best of Anderson Silva. A LOT of fighters could have destroyed Forrest with the stupid strategy that he employed. 2. Anderson Silva is an extremely proud fighter and would not accept a fixed fight. No way, no how.

The UFC has never had a problem with fixed fights or fighters taking dives in its history. So, I'm not going to just start believing stupid conspiracy theories just because one fight had a very strange ending. Unless anyone can provide solid proof that such a thing took place, they're just blowing smoke up your ass. Boxing has earned a reputation for doing that shit. Don't lump their garbage in with MMA.
 
Those last few punches from Griffin were really sloppy looking. Look at the positioning and movement of his feet/legs. Was a painful fight to watch.
 
[quote name='n8rockerasu']WTF??? What kind of piece of shit comment is this? Even referring to Silva as a "black guy" is inaccurate. He's Brazilian. So, if you're thinking you can claim him as one of "your own", you're an idiot.[/QUOTE]


Being black is not a nationality. Blacks are not exclusive to the USA and Africa. By your logic, blacks cannot possibly exist in Brazil. Beyond that, to clarify, I was using "black" in terms of loose definition that consisted "darker skinned", not as a demographic comprised of a specific group of people.
 
[quote name='rickshankshaw']Being black is not a nationality. Blacks are not exclusive to the USA and Africa. By your logic, blacks cannot possibly exist in Brazil. Beyond that, to clarify, I was using "black" in terms of loose definition that consisted "darker skinned", not as a demographic representative of a specific checkmarked group of people.[/QUOTE]

If skin pigmentation is your sole basis on how people should be grouped, you're even more pathetic than I thought. It's one thing to be proud of one's heritage and where one comes from. But to make generalizations just based on somebody's skin tone is outright bigotry. My point was that there's no such thing as "black people" or "white people", considering it has nothing to do with who you are or where you're from.

I really doubt Silva thinks of himself as "a black guy". He's a Brazilian. Think whatever you want, but what you did was use a very generic term to describe Anderson Silva as though it would relate him to you in some way. You have nothing in common with Anderson Silva. But go ahead. Keep preaching your message of intolerance all over the world, and enjoy fulfilling your own prophecy.
 
So is the broken jaw thing legit or a rumor? I'm still mildly interested in what truly happened with that shit show of a performance last night from griffin.
 
[quote name='n8rockerasu']If skin pigmentation is your sole basis on how people should be grouped, you're even more pathetic than I thought. It's one thing to be proud of one's heritage and where one comes from. But to make generalizations just based on somebody's skin tone is outright bigotry. My point was that there's no such thing as "black people" or "white people", considering it has nothing to do with who you are or where you're from.

I really doubt Silva thinks of himself as "a black guy". He's a Brazilian. Think whatever you want, but what you did was use a very generic term to describe Anderson Silva as though it would relate him to you in some way. You have nothing in common with Anderson Silva. But go ahead. Keep preaching your message of intolerance all over the world, and enjoy fulfilling your own prophecy.[/QUOTE]

You clearly don't know what you're talking about. It's kinda' sad. But whatever. I'm happy to have your permission to keep preaching my message of intolerance all over the world, and enjoy fulfilling my own prophecy.

What country should I start with?
 
Good. Silva needs to stay at 205. Who's he going to fight at 185? Henderson? Franklin? Marquardt? Been there, done that. The only possible fight I can think of is Spider-Belfort.

By the way, anyone watching WEC tonight? I'm pumped.
 
I knew damn well that Forrest would be put down in that fight, but I still can't believe how easily Anderson did it. I am a huge fan of Silva.He is amazing. I need to see him vs Machida. Make it happen!
 
[quote name='Pavel6969']I knew damn well that Forrest would be put down in that fight, but I still can't believe how easily Anderson did it. I am a huge fan of Silva.He is amazing. I need to see him vs Machida. Make it happen![/QUOTE]


I like how when Silva and hit trainer were saying he would not fight Machida, because of their friendship and Dana pops in and says, if he keeps on doing this in the LHW division he was going to make it happen. Then he was like what were you saying, hahaha.

Good stuff in WEC tonight, I think Mir had some brain damage from that Lesnar fight, he sucks at being a commentator, hahaha
 
Idk though I always liked Forrest, but have lost some respect for him if its true. Anyways Torres fight is about to start. This weekend was bad ass, football and UFC/WEC, good shit.
 
Yeah, I like Forrest a lot too, but if he wasn't injured, then my respect for him just went down tenfold. Hell yeah man, awesome weekend. 101 was pretty good, WEC has been awesome, preseason kicked off.
 
The Prodigy is back! Ha! Yes! Wee! And he finished Florian with a rear-naked choke to boot! It was hard to not erupt with joy. Penn had a lot to prove to himself after his brutal loss to St-Pierre, and, tonight, he proved that he's back to taking his training seriously. His cardio seemed much improved, and against someone with super-cardio like KenFlo, that means something.

Forrest's loss was devastating to see. Anderson Silva is just in another echelon of athlete. Forrest lives at the gym, has super-cardio, and is big and strong, but Silva seemed to be toying with Griffin the entire fight. Silva helped up Forrest, and even offered him free shots, yet Forrest was unable to do anything--at all.

Considering how Silva decimated James Irvin and now Forrest Griffin, I think perhaps Silva could very well dent the Light Heavyweight division. I mean, damn, the way he toyed with Forrest just boggles the mind. Forrest is no slouch, by any means (he defeated Rampage and Shogun, for goodness sake), and Silva just played him like a fool.

Griffin has to pull a BJ Penn and redeem himself in his next fight. Honestly, Griffin has a lot more to prove than Penn did, as at least Penn gave it his all and never quit. Seeing how hard he trains and how passionate he is about fighting, I know he'll come back better than ever, and willing to prove to himself and to us fans that he is not a quitter.

[quote name='blueweltall']I don't know if Silva vs. Machida will be a great match to watch...[/QUOTE]


I too have my doubts about the excitement of watching such a fight. However, I think it could be a fun fight. Both may use counter-striking as their primary tactic, but Silva can be aggressive if he wants. I honestly have no idea what would happen if they fought. I could see Machida getting overwhelmed or Machida counter-kicking Silva in the temple then following up with strikes. It would definitely be interesting to watch, though.
 
Ya know what would be an incredible fight even though they're mismatched in size? Silva vs Lesnar. See if pure skill can overcome brute force.
 
[quote name='Maklershed']Ya know what would be an incredible fight even though they're mismatched in size? Silva vs Lesnar. See if pure skill can overcome brute force.[/QUOTE]

if thats the case id rather see machida vs lesnar. silva embarassed that guy especially with that last hit in the end id guess he either didnt prepare enough for the fight or he did and even after al his preparation he wasnt up to the challenge and knew it and that may be why he left. itll be interesting to hear what he will say about it in the future.
 
Don't think it would happen anymore since Silva wants to fight in the Light Heavyweight division, but a catchweight fight between GSP and Silva would be amazing
 
WEC was good last night, I wasn't expecting much from it (never watched it before) but it was pretty good. Torres getting knocked out was a bit of a shocker.
 
I don't know. From that article it doesn't seem like Diaz is a moron. Seems like the officials are dicks for changing the rules without notice.
 
No, Diaz is a moron. He's been fully adamant about his pot smoking in the past, going as far as to say that smoking doesn't get in the way of his fighting, fighting gets in the way of his smoking. I have no problem with people smoking pot, but in this situation it's just stupid.
 
[quote name='Matt Young']I just watched the WEC show. Much, much better than the previous night's UFC. It was my first WEC show, but I'll be watching again.[/QUOTE]

Yeah it was better for sure. The WEC events are almost always good, a lot of the times they are better than the UFC events.
 
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