MODS PLEASE LOCK - The Wii VC Games - Volume 1

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Looks like I need to pick up some more Wii points before Monday.

Definitely going to get Super Mario Bros., R-Type and Toe Jam and Earl.

Still on the fence about both Super Castlevania IV and Street Fighter.

I don't think I'll have the time to play Castlevania because I'm thinking about going through Symphony of the Night again soon.

With Street Fighter, I played the SNES one to death with my cousin and I know I would enjoy it. Problem is I have already downloaded the Xbox 360 version of the game (which has online support).
 
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I don't think I'll have the time to play Castlevania because I'm thinking about going through Symphony of the Night again soon.
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You can't spare two hours to play a classic?

It takes more time to play Toejam & Earl than it does CV 4.
 
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With Street Fighter, I played the SNES one to death with my cousin and I know I would enjoy it. Problem is I have already downloaded the Xbox 360 version of the game (which has online support).[/quote]

Tut tut...

Bad controls and stuttery online gaming...

I'll take the SNES version by far over the broken junk I paid for on XBL.
 
[quote name='Roufuss']You can't spare two hours to play a classic?
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NO!

Ok...yes I can.

[quote name='ajservo1']Tut tut...

Bad controls and stuttery online gaming...

I'll take the SNES version by far over the broken junk I paid for on XBL.[/QUOTE]

True, but would this SNES version be better than the SF II that is packaged in the SF Anniversary Collection for PS2/Xbox? I have that as well, and I'm trying to avoid having to pay another $8.
 
So has there been any news on the big Christmas surprise Reggie mentioned? I hope it isn't the availability (for purchase) of these new VC releases (had SMB been free that would have been a nice little present, but still not terribly amazing). If so, color me underwhelmed. It can't be the Forecast channel. Perhaps it is the beta Opera browser? I dunno, none of those seem that exciting (nice features to be sure, but hardly surprising). Or is this going to be another moment like the "there's still a big Wii secret to be revealed before launch" that turned out to be, well, nothing.
 
There better be an N64 game as a surprise. I doubt Nintendo is that nice though.

Still, Castlevania IV is nice.
 
I think Super Mario Bros., Street Fighter II, R-Type, and Castlevania IV ARE the surprises. Although we knew they already rated by the ESRB, none were originally slated to be released in 2006 at all in the U.S., let alone Christmas day. I could be wrong though.
 
fuck yes on Super Castlevania IV. Along with R-Type and maybe Toejam and Earl, some great releases to finish up the year.
 
aw man Ive still got castlevania on SNES, was playing it last night... and still love it, but I think I'll go with toejam and earl next week. maybe r-type, any impressions on r-type?
 
Well, I ended up with 3 point cards today(and a nunchuck) for less than 40 bucks due to the buy 1 get 1 free at meijer.

So I will be buying some more VC games.(to go with BM '93 & Gunstar Heroes)

I never played some of these games TJ & E, R-type, Castlevania IV .

Are they worth it?

I mainly want multi player games, that I can play with my 5 yr old who is really good at games.

I am leaning toward TJ & E .

Is R-Type 2 players?

Is it anything like the NES game Life Force?

And castlevania IV , I've played the newer ones on ps1,DS,GBA , I also like castlevania:simons quest on nes when I was younger, is it similar to that?
 
[quote name='js1']Well, I ended up with 3 point cards today(and a nunchuck) for less than 40 bucks due to the buy 1 get 1 free at meijer. [/QUOTE]

Whoa whoa whoa...you can do the buy one, get one free on WII POINTS CARDS?! REALLY? I'll head straight to Meijer if that's true...

As for R-Type, it's a great shooter, one player only. I've never played the TG16 version, but the arcade original was awesome.

RD
 
They are all excellent games

R Type isn't two player from what I can remember. I guess I would compare it to the Gradius series somewhat.

Castlevania IV isn't anything like Simon's Quest. It's more linear but it's still good. Not much for exploration, though.
 
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Whoa whoa whoa...you can do the buy one, get one free on WII POINTS CARDS?! REALLY? I'll head straight to Meijer if that's true...


RD

Yeah , at the one here in toledo, it worked on accessories that were 19.99 .
 
[quote name='FriskyTanuki']http://www.gamespot.com/news/6163549.html?part=rss&tag=gs_news&subj=6163549

Seems like R-Type's the first VC title to take advantage of the "starting at X points" statements with it coming out at 800 instead of the normal 600 points that the other TG-16 titles have cost.[/quote]Gah... I was just commenting that I was pleasantly surprised that that wording hadn't been exploited in the US yet (LttP was bumped 100 points in Japan, I believe). But for R-Type? No one - figuratively - in the US played TG-16 games, not sure why they would bump those up. 20 year old game or not, I would have figured SMB would be the more likely culprit in this group. Or CV4 for that matter.
 
Damit they bumped up R-Type to 800. I am not buying it now. Although I am really happy for Castlevania IV because I never played it and it would compliment my portrait of ruin christmas gift nicely :D
 
[quote name='js1']Yeah , at the one here in toledo, it worked on accessories that were 19.99 .[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the heads up! I ran over to the Meijer 5 minutes from the house, they had two points cards left. Went to the U-Scan, and sho' nuff, they were BOGO. Going to check the one by work tomorrow, apparently the sale runs until Christmas Eve. What a deal!

RD
 
[quote name='botticus']Gah... I was just commenting that I was pleasantly surprised that that wording hadn't been exploited in the US yet (LttP was bumped 100 points in Japan, I believe). But for R-Type? No one - figuratively - in the US played TG-16 games, not sure why they would bump those up. 20 year old game or not, I would have figured SMB would be the more likely culprit in this group. Or CV4 for that matter.[/quote]
Yeah, I was wondering what was so good about this game that they'd charge more for it on the VC.
 
[quote name='FriskyTanuki']Yeah, I was wondering what was so good about this game that they'd charge more for it on the VC.[/quote]Well the only thing I could think of is it did get a remake on the GBC called R-Type DX. Maybe that has something to do with it. Maybe it was that popular.
 
[quote name='io']So has there been any news on the big Christmas surprise Reggie mentioned? I hope it isn't the availability (for purchase) of these new VC releases (had SMB been free that would have been a nice little present, but still not terribly amazing). If so, color me underwhelmed. It can't be the Forecast channel. Perhaps it is the beta Opera browser? I dunno, none of those seem that exciting (nice features to be sure, but hardly surprising). Or is this going to be another moment like the "there's still a big Wii secret to be revealed before launch" that turned out to be, well, nothing.[/QUOTE]

i think the suprise is that there are a lot of nice vc games being released. but i still wouldnt count out super mario brothers being free, or another big game that will just show up when you log in monday.
 
Can anyone confirm if Raiden is only 1 player... I was going to buy it (even at 800) because I love this game, but it's way more fun with the 2-player simultaneous. That's the only way I have ever played it, but never tried it on TG before.
 
I havent been paying attention much to the VC games , but can anyone tell me if Gunstar Heroes is out yet?

Ill get some points this weekend if it is...
 
[quote name='JokerCard']I havent been paying attention much to the VC games , but can anyone tell me if Gunstar Heroes is out yet?

Ill get some points this weekend if it is...[/quote]Check my sig, lol. Yeah it is out and still as awesome as it was 13 years ago.
 
I love the Virtual Console. One of the main reasons I bought a Wii. So far I have bought Sonic, Wario Woods, F-Zero, and Bonk's Adventure. I'm thinking of buying Zelda (I have never played a Zelda game, believe it or not, and don't own it for Wii), and I am definitely hitting up Super Mario Brothers on Christmas morning.

One thing I don't get however, is how people are complaining about how Nintendo is not realesing everything right away. Now, come on, obviously they would not do that, and it makes perfect sense. If they released all the good stuff now, what would we have to look foward to in the coming weeks, months, and years? And if they did, would we honestly have even bothered buying some of the other games? I know I would have gone and right away bought N64 Mario Kart and Super Mario World, and never have bothered with anything else. Instead, I am having an absolute blast playing Bonk's Adventure (what a fun game! I had never heard of it) and Wario's Woods. Stop complaining and check out some of the titles. I admit games like "Pinball" don't look fun at all, but there are lot of really good games on the Virtual Console that people don't want to give a chance, because it's not Mario.

Also, anyone know, is R-Type on the TurboGrafix system the same as the R-Type game on SNES? I remember playing the SNES one when I was a kid. That might explain the 800 point price, since it is essentially an SNES game as well.
 
I'm all over Toejam and Castlevania. Never owned either one, and actually only played 'Vania on a slowdown-filled rom on PSP (Symphony was my first 'Vania, and have owned every original one since). Toejam was a lot of fun, from what I remember; best part was flying down to the secret hot tub floor and making the girlies go "titter!"

Maybe while I'm all VCin' it, I'll pick up some old faves Bonk and Military Madness. I owned a Turbo back in the day, and it was the only console I sold and never rebought -- but even then I never owned either game, only rented. Still, that'll run about $28 all told -- kind of pricey for four retro games that I won't even tangibly own.

[quote name='Blind the Thief']Interesting...Metroidvania was nice at first, but I'd like to see Castlevania go back to level-based games at some point.[/QUOTE]
I disagree. Like I said, I never got into the oldschool Castlevanias, but damned if Super Metroid/Castlevania: SotN aren't two of my fave games of all time, and all their true sequels rocked. I don't think I'll ever get tired of that style when done right. To me, they're better than straight-up action/platformers in every conceivable way.
 
[quote name='MAH4546']One thing I don't get however, is how people are complaining about how Nintendo is not realesing everything right away. Now, come on, obviously they would not do that, and it makes perfect sense. If they released all the good stuff now, what would we have to look foward to in the coming weeks, months, and years? And if they did, would we honestly have even bothered buying some of the other games? I know I would have gone and right away bought N64 Mario Kart and Super Mario World, and never have bothered with anything else. Instead, I am having an absolute blast playing Bonk's Adventure (what a fun game! I had never heard of it) and Wario's Woods. Stop complaining and check out some of the titles. I admit games like "Pinball" don't look fun at all, but there are lot of really good games on the Virtual Console that people don't want to give a chance, because it's not Mario.[/QUOTE]

I do acquiesce to Nintendo's assumed plan even if it disappoints personally. But for all the talk about a staggered schedule and why it makes so much sense, why then are Japanese gamers getting a veritable who's who list for the launch window?
 
[quote name='rapsodist']I do acquiesce to Nintendo's assumed plan even if it disappoints personally. But for all the talk about a staggered schedule and why it makes so much sense, why then are Japanese gamers getting a veritable who's who list for the launch window?[/quote]1) Status quo; 2) Unless we can have someone chime in on the gaming tastes of the Japanese public, I'm sure some of the games that they're getting that we think are hot shit are to the Japanese what NES Baseball is to us. As one possibly relevant example, Twilight Princess had an 80% attach rate to the Wii in the US, and well under 50% in Japan. So I have a feeling Link to the Past will be a much bigger sell in the US than Japan (where it is already released).

I just want Fire Emblem for the SNES. :whistle2:(
 
[quote name='botticus']1) Status quo; 2) Unless we can have someone chime in on the gaming tastes of the Japanese public, I'm sure some of the games that they're getting that we think are hot shit are to the Japanese what NES Baseball is to us. As one possibly relevant example, Twilight Princess had an 80% attach rate to the Wii in the US, and well under 50% in Japan. So I have a feeling Link to the Past will be a much bigger sell in the US than Japan (where it is already released).

I just want Fire Emblem for the SNES. :whistle2:([/quote]Also, I think were seeing two drastically differnet plans coming from NCL and NoA. NCL was content to launch the system with Wario Ware, Wii Play, Wii Sports, and Zelda, and just totally stomped on the "competition" in their 3rd party publishers. NoA is staggering those Wii releases so that third parties have a better shot and there's no drought from Nintendo. The same seems to be true of the VC. I don't think I'd have bought any Genesis or TG-16 games (save for Sonic) if Mario 1, Mario 3, LttP, OoT, Castlevania IV, Contra III, etc. were all released at the same time.

While I long for many of those games, I appreciate that NoA seems to be allowing the "unknowns" to have some of the spotlight initally. :)
 
[quote name='Sir_Fragalot']Check my sig, lol. Yeah it is out and still as awesome as it was 13 years ago.[/quote]

Sorry, cant see your sig cause my internet has been slow the past week.
But thanks for the info, definetly getting a card this week. I still have the game for the Genesis and sometimes still play it.....when I feel like hooking up my sega....
 
Wanna give props to the OP for keeping the first post up to date! Keeps me from having to go hunting all over to see what's out or coming out!
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-G
 
[quote name='botticus']Unless we can have someone chime in on the gaming tastes of the Japanese public, I'm sure some of the games that they're getting that we think are hot shit are to the Japanese what NES Baseball is to us.[/QUOTE]
That is a bold statement.

For instance, you're claiming that SNES Super Mario World (JAP) = NES Baseball (US). I realize you qualify it with "some," but the point stands: arguments that Nintendo is "spacing out" quality VC titles don't agree with releases in Japan, even with differences in regional gaming tastes taken into account.

I guess this is yet another NOA vs. NOJ thing. NOA is just taking their sweet ass time preparing the localized versions of these games. I don't know why it has taken this long to get the Mario library on the map--I would have thought the entire Mario platformers would have been front and center from the get-go to give sales a big boost at those tasty prices. Guess that's why Reggie's the one kicking this and taking that, and I'm the one posting.
 
I think the surprise is how uninterested I am in the VC. When I first heard of it I thought it was going to be great but I just can't bring myself to spend money on games I already bought years ago and can now play on my computer for free. If they added new content - even if it was just an achievements type system - then it might be worth the money but right now I'm going to have to pass on this stuff...
 
Why is everyone so shocked they aren't releasing their entire library in one shot? Theyre strategically releasing titles to compensate for game droughts and whatnot.
 
[quote name='dothog']That is a bold statement.

For instance, you're claiming that SNES Super Mario World (JAP) = NES Baseball (US). I realize you qualify it with "some," but the point stands: arguments that Nintendo is "spacing out" quality VC titles don't agree with releases in Japan, even with differences in regional gaming tastes taken into account.

I guess this is yet another NOA vs. NOJ thing. NOA is just taking their sweet ass time preparing the localized versions of these games. I don't know why it has taken this long to get the Mario library on the map--I would have thought the entire Mario platformers would have been front and center from the get-go to give sales a big boost at those tasty prices. Guess that's why Reggie's the one kicking this and taking that, and I'm the one posting.[/QUOTE]

I think that it's not so much an issue of Super Mario World (Jap) = NES Baseball (US) as it is that the Japanese will spend small amounts of money like something was free. That's why we see them getting so much simply because they'll buy more out of the gate, good, bad, whatever. If you look at what's come out in the US so far it has a degree of appeal across the board. It's really been three types of games so far on the VC for the US: cult classics (Gunstar, Solomon's Key, Bonk), well known IPs (Mario, F-Zero, Bomberman, Donkey Kong), or games that seem to have universal appeal (Golf, Tennis, Sim City, Columns). There's not a single game on that list so far that doesn't appeal to at least one significant cross section of people who would buy a Wii. In fact, the first game I don't see anyone buying is Urban Champions (and even then, it has that "first fighting game" appeal).
 
[quote name='MAH4546']One thing I don't get however, is how people are complaining about how Nintendo is not realesing everything right away. Now, come on, obviously they would not do that, and it makes perfect sense. If they released all the good stuff now, what would we have to look foward to in the coming weeks, months, and years? And if they did, would we honestly have even bothered buying some of the other games? I know I would have gone and right away bought N64 Mario Kart and Super Mario World, and never have bothered with anything else. Instead, I am having an absolute blast playing Bonk's Adventure (what a fun game! I had never heard of it) and Wario's Woods. Stop complaining and check out some of the titles. I admit games like "Pinball" don't look fun at all, but there are lot of really good games on the Virtual Console that people don't want to give a chance, because it's not Mario.

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people just like to bitch about things...they did it about xbox 360 b/c list and arcade titles release. They did it about the cost of the ps3, it was done about the cost of the wii, it just happens
 
My difficulty in understanding the differences between Nintendo's American and Japanese schedules for the Virtual Console sits mainly on this point: Even though I find the American strategy of longevity to be reasonable and even smart, if a staggered release schedule for the Virtual Console is such a necessity to bolster the sales of lesser-known games, and more importantly to maintain the viability of the Wii, why isn't Japan following this strategy?

Won't the Wii then lose its luster in Japan if gamers have to go months without a big-name Wii title, and don't even have a significant Virtual Console game to tide them over? Won't NCL's refusal to follow a staggered-release strategy cause the Wii's stock to drop in Japan?

Following that, isn't the international success of the Wii ultimately contingent upon the Wii's success in Japan? After all, Nintendo and most major third-parties are Japanese so if the Wii can't maintain a longevity in its native country, I would naturally assume that it can't maintain a longevity outside of it. Aren't non-Japanese gamers affected by NCL's decision-making, too?

Why aren't NOA and NCL on the same page here? Are there that many more Wii games releasing consistently in Japan that are simply absent from the American schedule? Or are American gamers so mercurial that we require regular bitesize Virtual Console offerings to validate our purchases whereas Japanese gamers require an all-upfront approach?

Maybe I'm just overstating the American strategy and overthinking the situation... But I'm honestly curious about this, i.e. this post isn't meant to be rhetoric.
 
There are already a large number of Wii games announced for Japan that will most likely never make it over here. I think the VC in general will probably be relied upon a lot less over there, at least in the beginning. Remember that NCL and NOA are always on the same page, regardless of how it seems to the sad American customer. NCL is the one writing the book.
 
They should have just put excitebike 64 out and not wasted everyones time with the original which is in the 64 game
 
[quote name='hupp']They should have just put excitebike 64 out and not wasted everyones time with the original which is in the 64 game[/QUOTE]

But then, they wouldn't be making as much money. Also, not everyone knows that, but it's mostly the money.
 
this should be stickied.


Picked up Columns and Gunstar Heroes. Columns was completely on accident. Don't ask, cause I don't know how I pulled that off :lol: luckily, it's a really fun puzzle game.
 
[quote name='Apossum']this should be stickied.


Picked up Columns and Gunstar Heroes. Columns was completely on accident. Don't ask, cause I don't know how I pulled that off :lol: luckily, it's a really fun puzzle game.[/quote]"Do you want to buy Columns?" Yes.

"Columns costs 600 points do you want to buy it?" Yes.

"After you buy Columns, you will have x - 600 points remaining. Do you want to buy Columns?" Yes.

Oh fuck, I bought Columns!

:lol:
 
[quote name='botticus']"Do you want to buy Columns?" Yes.

"Columns costs 600 points do you want to buy it?" Yes.

"After you buy Columns, you will have x - 600 points remaining. Do you want to buy Columns?" Yes.

Oh fuck, I bought Columns!

:lol:[/quote]

Not to mention as well that you have to physically move the pointer on the last option to select "Yes" instead of just clicking through.
 
[quote name='botticus']"Do you want to buy Columns?" Yes.

"Columns costs 600 points do you want to buy it?" Yes.

"After you buy Columns, you will have x - 600 points remaining. Do you want to buy Columns?" Yes.

Oh fuck, I bought Columns!

:lol:[/QUOTE]


that's exactly what happened. :lol: I think it's because the title screens for both games are similar colors, so I just clicked on columns. I was thinking about something completely different while pressing the buttons and didn't notice until it said "You are now downloading Columns." Then I let out a great big "Awwwwm...fuuuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhck...."
 
[quote name='simplygriff']Wanna give props to the OP for keeping the first post up to date! Keeps me from having to go hunting all over to see what's out or coming out!
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-G[/QUOTE]

Thank you kind sir. It's a pleasure.
 
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