My "teacher" the BITCH

CommanderKeen93

CommanderKeen93

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My final class of the day is Public Speaking (yeah i needed a credit) we had to do impromptu speeches and my question was "Three people in a pool, all drowning, who do you save, the burly man, dip shit, or old woman?" My response after a shitty day was of course "I save the old woman who helps me drown the other two at which point I drown her." And instead of a simple reprimanding she FAILS me with no way to make it up. So my question to you CAGs is:Should I confront her or let it go and just drop the class?
 
It's a public speaking class. You publicly spoke. It was an opinion question. How is it possible to fail someone on an opinion question?
 
She probably failed you because an old woman could NEVER drown a burly man...I doubt she'd even be able to drown the dipshit.

The correct answer would have been dipshit since you might have had trouble drowning the burly man yourself.

Your F was well deserved :p
 
How were you doing in the class before? Unless the teacher really is a "bitch" she can't just fail you like that, if so I would take it up with the administration.
 
I'd definitely work my way through the administration chain of command. First ask her directly and if she is still a biotch go to the Department Chair. If she is the Department Chair then it's off to the Dean and so on. If what you stated in the OP is all that happened and this is why you failed then Scorch is right and there is no reason you should fail the class. Don't just accept the F, you have to fight this.
 
[quote name='getmyrunon']I'm guessing there's more to this story than your simple retelling.[/QUOTE]

There's always more to a story then someone repeats. Its natural thing to drop certain things out of a story to make the storyteller the victim in the situation.

Confront her I guess, it was an opinion question, you gave an opinion which= A
 
sounds like youre a smart ass. my guess is you got failed because you had a stupid idea and couldnt convey any compelling reason why your idea was just.
 
You paid for the class, get your credits. She cant fail you because she doesnt like you. If she doesnt change it, go to the administration.
 
[quote name='xdl']You paid for the class, get your credits. She cant fail you because she doesnt like you. If she doesnt change it, go to the administration.[/QUOTE]This is clearly high school level.
 
Wait, so just because it's an opinion question and he gave his opinion he deserves an A? I must have taken the wrong speech class, because in mine you had to present your opinion, even if it's unpopular or shocking or whatever, in a professional and logical manner. If I had been given a "who do you save" question and my answer was, "None. In fact I'd personally kill them instead of saving them. Why? Because I'm not having a good day today," I'm pretty sure I would have been given a bad grade too. I don't really see why this is such a surprise. Just because he gave an answer to a question doesn't mean he answered it well, although I do agree that it probably shouldn't deserve an F.

I would still try to talk to her and get a second chance, but if she doesn't give you one drop the class and mark it as a lessoned learned. I just don't see the administration being on your side on this one.
 
[quote name='CommanderKeen93']My final class of the day is Public Speaking (yeah i needed a credit) we had to do impromptu speeches and my question was "Three people in a pool, all drowning, who do you save, the burly man, dip shit, or old woman?"[/quote]

OK, seems pretty reasonable so far, with a standard yet interesting question to boot although I doubt the phrase "dip shit" was used in class. If this was at a high school then it's completely and utterly unprofessional and if it was a college it's a tad bit more understandable but equally juvenile. But let's see your reasoning!

[quote name='CommanderKeen93']My response after a shitty day was of course "I save the old woman who helps me drown the other two at which point I drown her."[/quote]

Seems moderately feasible as a response, overall, at first glance. So what happened?

[quote name='CommanderKeen93']And instead of a simple reprimanding she FAILS me with no way to make it up. So my question to you CAGs is:Should I confront her or let it go and just drop the class?[/quote]

Ouch. Failure? I wonder why?

[quote name='CommanderKeen93'] ...and my question was "Three people in a pool, all drowning, who do you save, the burly man, dip shit, or old woman?"

...My response after a shitty day was of course "I save the old woman who helps me drown the other two at which point I drown her."[/quote]

Ahhh...perhaps it was because you, in essense, did not save anyone if we're going from a reasoning standpoint.
 
[quote name='xdl']You paid for the class, get your credits.[/quote]
Oh, my. You have a massively flawed understanding about how school works.

She cant fail you because she doesnt like you. If she doesnt change it, go to the administration.
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I don't see any evidence that she disliked him. The way I read the story as the OP relates it, he gave a poor speech consisting of the ten seconds it took to say what he quotes in the OP, did not use his voice to properly convince people, did not create logical and constructive arguments to persuade the class that what he was doing was the best/most rational choice, and did not use proper body language while speaking.

Let's be clear: "public speaking" is more than talking, any way you want, about anything you want, in front of people you don't know, so drop the bullshit sympathy for the OP that that's all he has to do to get an "A."

Moreover, if you don't get a second chance, well, tough shit. Check the syllabus: if it says she offers extra credit opportunities, then I'd mention that to her. If it doesn't say anything, or if it says something along the lines of "I do not offer extra credit," well, what are you shocked by? She told you this quite some time ago, and chances are you didn't read the syllabus, so whose fault is that? The "bitch's"? Or the lazy bastard who doesn't know how to read the syllabus, didn't feel like leaving his personal life at home when it comes to in-class participation, and didn't apply anything they learned in class to their in-class work?

If I had a fucking nickel for each and every person who somehow thought that their sheer inability to do the basic work asked of them in class would translate into the teacher wanting to give them *more work* to do, I'd be independently wealthy. As far as I'm concerned, if you can't do the work everyone else does, you don't deserve a single fucking chance to get extra credit. Your bad attitude and laziness should NOT be rewarded.
 
You should be graded on your ability to publicly speak. Unless otherwise stated in your syllabus. (I would check to see what you are graded on in there to be sure). Maybe you are just bad at public speaking and it didnt matter what you said though.

If this was an English class then you would deserve an F, it is not though. If you feel you were wronged, and graded on the fact that she just didnt like your comment and was not based on how well you spoke in public, then I would see an administrator or your counselor and complain.

Or better yet, if youre a minority of some sort (black, hispanic, gay) or an alcoholic (its a disease you know...=-|) just use those as the REAL reason she failed you. Get her fired, thrown in jail, and then go drown some old people.
 
Sounds like you mocked the assignment and she didn't want to take your shit. TFB. Seriously that is a pretty easy thing to just BS something acceptable.

My advice would be to either drop the class if it's early. (But isn't this mid-semester most places?) Or go to her and apologize for being a douche.
 
Saying you should "drown her" in attempt to be funny only shows how immature you are. You should be more careful too cuz that shit'll get you expelled this day and age.

[quote name='CommanderKeen93']instead of a simple reprimanding she FAILS me with no way to make it up. [/QUOTE]
What is this kindergarden? You want her to hold your hand across the street too? You are on college....ACT LIKE IT! The biggest failure here is the school you went to that showed you its ok to act like an asshole because nothing will come of it and everyone will get a kick out of it.
 
"You paid for the class, get your credits."

I hate it when people think paying for classes means you are entitiled to passing them no matter what.

You are not paying for passing grades, you are paying for the CHANCE to go to class and earn a passing grade. Whether you do that or not is up to you.
 
The correct answer in these "What If" questions are to save the youngest person.

I had the same question years ago in high school, but it was a bomb shelter with 15 people, but it can only hold 10 people.

The "correct" answer was to send the priest outside into the radiation (because he would have given himself up), send the sick people outside, send the fat people outside (takes too much room and eats too much supplies) save the families and the youngest people (because they have their whole lives ahead of them).
 
Sounds a lot different from when I had a public speaking class last year...then again my teacher helped write speeches for people such as Colin Powell and the president of Liberia, so sounds like you are getting off easy.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']Oh, my. You have a massively flawed understanding about how school works.


I don't see any evidence that she disliked him. The way I read the story as the OP relates it, he gave a poor speech consisting of the ten seconds it took to say what he quotes in the OP, did not use his voice to properly convince people, did not create logical and constructive arguments to persuade the class that what he was doing was the best/most rational choice, and did not use proper body language while speaking.

Let's be clear: "public speaking" is more than talking, any way you want, about anything you want, in front of people you don't know, so drop the bullshit sympathy for the OP that that's all he has to do to get an "A."

Moreover, if you don't get a second chance, well, tough shit. Check the syllabus: if it says she offers extra credit opportunities, then I'd mention that to her. If it doesn't say anything, or if it says something along the lines of "I do not offer extra credit," well, what are you shocked by? She told you this quite some time ago, and chances are you didn't read the syllabus, so whose fault is that? The "bitch's"? Or the lazy bastard who doesn't know how to read the syllabus, didn't feel like leaving his personal life at home when it comes to in-class participation, and didn't apply anything they learned in class to their in-class work?

If I had a fucking nickel for each and every person who somehow thought that their sheer inability to do the basic work asked of them in class would translate into the teacher wanting to give them *more work* to do, I'd be independently wealthy. As far as I'm concerned, if you can't do the work everyone else does, you don't deserve a single fucking chance to get extra credit. Your bad attitude and laziness should NOT be rewarded.[/QUOTE]QFT. Jesus, what kind of person is going to college these days?
 
The initial question itself seems stupid in the first place. The "dip shit" part seems so out of place, not to mention its unnecessary vulgarity. Any strength of the question, if there ever was any, was effictively lost when a much stronger question would be stated with "jerk," "idiot," etc....Dipshit just gives off a puerile vibe.
 
[quote name='CommanderKeen93']My final class of the day is Public Speaking (yeah i needed a credit) we had to do impromptu speeches and my question was "Three people in a pool, all drowning, who do you save, the burly man, dip shit, or old woman?" My response after a shitty day was of course "I save the old woman who helps me drown the other two at which point I drown her." And instead of a simple reprimanding she FAILS me with no way to make it up. So my question to you CAGs is:Should I confront her or let it go and just drop the class?[/QUOTE]

You should go apologize to her for mocking her class and figure out that you should not treat class like a joke (professors hate that).
 
[quote name='wubb']Sounds like you mocked the assignment and she didn't want to take your shit. TFB. Seriously that is a pretty easy thing to just BS something acceptable.

My advice would be to either drop the class if it's early. (But isn't this mid-semester most places?) Or go to her and apologize for being a douche.[/quote]

QFT. Having a bad day means jack shit when it comes to coursework. Suck it up, do your shit right, and make the most of the money you're spending to be there.
 
While I have serious doubts that you are a college level student, I agree with most posters in here. Having been through public speaking myself, I can say with a great degree of certainty that you completely missed the point of the assignment. By giving a half assed, poor response, you in fact proved that you can't speak publicly without making an ass of yourself. I agree with your prof for failing you.
 
[quote name='Haggar']The correct answer in these "What If" questions are to save the youngest person.[/quote]

I don't think there's necessarily a "correct" answer to this question.

What the teacher wanted was a speech. As long as it's concise (yet of sufficient length), logical, and convincing, I doubt it matters what the answer is, even if it is "drown 'em all and let God sort it out."

The point was to make an effort. To assemble an argument, whatever it is, and convince others of its merits. Simply answering the question in a flippant way shows zero effort, and so it got a zero grade.

Rather than call your teacher names or suggest on a public forum that she be drowned, suck up your pride and apologize, and actually do the assignment. Your teacher may not still be willing to hear it, and it may not change your grade, but it might help your final grade in the class. Right now, you need to use some of those public speaking skills to convince your teacher that you are taking her and her class seriously. Telling her you made a mistake and you're sorry is a good way to start.
 
[quote name='wubb']Sounds like you mocked the assignment and she didn't want to take your shit. TFB. Seriously that is a pretty easy thing to just BS something acceptable.

My advice would be to either drop the class if it's early. (But isn't this mid-semester most places?) Or go to her and apologize for being a douche.[/quote]

Wubb is right.

You decided to be a smartass and she was one right back at you. :lol:

The whole "I expected a reprimand" thing proves you didn't take her seriously. It's really hilarious when people expect a slap on the wrist and get a boot square in the ass instead. :lol:
 
[quote name='CommanderKeen93']My final class of the day is Public Speaking (yeah i needed a credit) we had to do impromptu speeches and my question was "Three people in a pool, all drowning, who do you save, the burly man, dip shit, or old woman?" My response after a shitty day was of course "I save the old woman who helps me drown the other two at which point I drown her." And instead of a simple reprimanding she FAILS me with no way to make it up. So my question to you CAGs is:Should I confront her or let it go and just drop the class?[/quote]


lmao that was fucking brilliant. i took public speaking in college and had a dick teacher too. the guy was flaming gay and a complete douchebag. hed take points off your grade if you didnt show up to class and all sorts of other nazi bullshit not to mention making us dress up everytime we did speeches in class. so after a while i said to hell with it and made a completly comical speech ( kind of a toast of sorts) and referenced the teach by name and mentioned how he and his partener were doign something and a few other gay jabs here and there.


long story short the class cracked up throughout the speech and when class was over he held me after class and chewed me out. i remember he went off about how i noticed the rainbow on his clipboard and how dare i make fun of it and blah blah blah. long story short i failed the class and could give 2 shits about it since i changed my major and it wa sno longer necessary for my new course of study.

if you feel youre being unfairly punished go to the dean of the dept speech falls under and let them know. be sure to have documentation of all the work youve done and be sure to look over the assignment again and see if what you did wasnt allowed under her rules.
 
[quote name='lokizz']lmao that was fucking brilliant. i took public speaking in college and had a dick teacher too. the guy was flaming gay and a complete douchebag. hed take points off your grade if you didnt show up to class and all sorts of other nazi bullshit not to mention making us dress up everytime we did speeches in class. so after a while i said to hell with it and made a completly comical speech ( kind of a toast of sorts) and referenced the teach by name and mentioned how he and his partener were doign something and a few other gay jabs here and there.


long story short the class cracked up throughout the speech and when class was over he held me after class and chewed me out. i remember he went off about how i noticed the rainbow on his clipboard and how dare i make fun of it and blah blah blah. long story short i failed the class and could give 2 shits about it since i changed my major and it wa sno longer necessary for my new course of study.

if you feel youre being unfairly punished go to the dean of the dept speech falls under and let them know. be sure to have documentation of all the work youve done and be sure to look over the assignment again and see if what you did wasnt allowed under her rules.[/QUOTE]
Great Christ Almighty; do you hold a degree from that college (or any, for that matter)?
 
[quote name='lokizz']lmao that was fucking brilliant. i took public speaking in college and had a dick teacher too. the guy was flaming gay and a complete douchebag. hed take points off your grade if you didnt show up to class and all sorts of other nazi bullshit not to mention making us dress up everytime we did speeches in class. so after a while i said to hell with it and made a completly comical speech ( kind of a toast of sorts) and referenced the teach by name and mentioned how he and his partener were doign something and a few other gay jabs here and there.


long story short the class cracked up throughout the speech and when class was over he held me after class and chewed me out. i remember he went off about how i noticed the rainbow on his clipboard and how dare i make fun of it and blah blah blah. long story short i failed the class and could give 2 shits about it since i changed my major and it wa sno longer necessary for my new course of study.

if you feel youre being unfairly punished go to the dean of the dept speech falls under and let them know. be sure to have documentation of all the work youve done and be sure to look over the assignment again and see if what you did wasnt allowed under her rules.[/QUOTE]Way to take pride in wasting everyone's time and your own money. And advising the OP to do the same? Good work.
 
That's what you get for being a smart ass OP. She's not obliged to give you a good grade because you "technically" answered the question correctly and you're not slick.
 
[quote name='jmcc']Way to take pride in wasting everyone's time and your own money. And advising the OP to do the same? Good work.[/quote]

hey dumb fuck look at the last sentence and see what i told him. and then get your head out of your ass and go fuck yourself.
 
Damn. After reading this, I'm amazed I didn't get kicked out of school for giving a demonstration on how to properly cut your wrists (with a fake razor blade & blood) in my speech class.


Sure, the OP may have been a dick but it seems a little over the top for the teacher to fail him for the class.
 
[quote name='norkusa']Sure, the OP may have been a dick but it seems a little over the top for the teacher to fail him for the class.[/QUOTE]

It reads like he failed the presentation itself, not the whole class.
 
[quote name='norkusa']Sure, the OP may have been a dick but it seems a little over the top for the teacher to fail him for the class.[/quote]

It depends. If this is how he's been approaching the class the whole time, then I really would expect him to have been failed entirely.
 
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[quote name='lokizz']hey dumb fuck look at the last sentence and see what i told him. and then get your head out of your ass and go fuck yourself.[/QUOTE]You told a story about how cool it was that you acted like a moron in class and got flunked for it, then advised the OP to waste a bunch of administrators' time arguing that his blowing off the final project for the course should be given a pass. Would you say that's about right?
 
[quote name='mykevermin']It reads like he failed the presentation itself, not the whole class.[/QUOTE]I'm not clear on what he's doing. If it was the last speech, I don't know how he's going to drop it at that point. But, at the same time, why would you want to drop a class just because of one bad project?
 
Dude, if you're going to be a smart arse in college, you better be good at it, and from your retelling you weren't.. And to all of those who are saying "It's opinion, he gave an opinion, = A" that's not how it worked in my neck of the woods.

No need to play the martyr role here, if you did a poor speech...you deserved a poor grade, and if one grade is the determinant, you've been placing yourself there all semester.

However, if you did an awesome speech (and left that part out) then you in turn deserve a better grade.
 
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