Nintendo 3DS - General Discussion Thread

[quote name='dgwillia006']Cant wait for DoA Dimensions to come out, still undecided on BlazBlue 3DS (Might be good practice for the console versions)

Also, i heard from a gamestop employee who checked in the SKU system that the 3DS E-Shop cards were coming out on the 29th. (Plus theres some Nintendo Event next week)[/QUOTE]

I was able to look up this rumor thanks to that info. Looks like there's still a prospect of an eShop soon!

[quote name='RedvsBlue']Duly noted,

Meant to type:

Which will we have first?

PSN or 3DS E-Shop[/QUOTE]

I had understood what was meant earlier. I was just messing around. ;) I should've used the wink instead of the rolling eyes.
 
[quote name='dgwillia006']Cant wait for DoA Dimensions to come out, still undecided on BlazBlue 3DS (Might be good practice for the console versions)

Also, i heard from a gamestop employee who checked in the SKU system that the 3DS E-Shop cards were coming out on the 29th. (Plus theres some Nintendo Event next week)[/QUOTE]

29th falls on a Sunday so perhaps the cards come out Sunday, e-shop launches on Monday?
 
[quote name='RedvsBlue']29th falls on a Sunday so perhaps the cards come out Sunday, e-shop launches on Monday?[/QUOTE]

Seems odd to launch on Memorial Day weekend, but if its a global launch, not that weird.
 
[quote name='foltzie']Seems odd to launch on Memorial Day weekend, but if its a global launch, not that weird.[/QUOTE]

Good point, forgot about Memorial Day. Maybe we misinterpreted and they meant May 2012?
 
[quote name='RedvsBlue']Good point, forgot about Memorial Day. Maybe we misinterpreted and they meant May 2012?[/QUOTE]

Still would be Memorial Day weekend, even in 2012.
 
[quote name='foltzie']Still would be Memorial Day weekend, even in 2012.[/QUOTE]

I know but what I was saying is that if the 29th is out because of Memorial Day weekend, perhaps it won't be this May, it will be next year's May.
 
[quote name='RedvsBlue']I know but what I was saying is that if the 29th is out because of Memorial Day weekend, perhaps it won't be this May, it will be next year's May.[/QUOTE]

It would be premature to assume it is out if the launch is global and initiated by Nintendo Japan. Memorial Day is of course a US holiday.
 
So Dream Trigger was just quietly released.

This trailer posted finally shows us some gameplay. Looks better than I expected, though I feel it is too simple of a game though to purchase at full price.

With the 3D on, this game is probably mesmerizing.
 
I am sure this is extremely YMMV because its Walmart but my wife just came home with a first party travel kit that came with carrying case, two styluses, ear buds, cleaning cloth, screen protectors and a car charger for $8

Took advantage of the Target sale and picked up Pilotwings Resort and Lego Pirate of the Caribbean
 
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May Firmware update detailed, at least for Japan.

3DS Ware -- Rockman Dash, Peticom
3D Classic -- Excitebike, Legend of Zelda, Xevious
Virtual GameBoy -- Ikari no Yousai, Phantasm
Virtual Game Gear -- Sonic & Tails 2, Sonic Drift 2, Dragon Crystal, Columns
Virtual GameBoy Color -- Super Mario Land, The Legend of Zelda DX (demo)
Virtual PC -- TBA
Demos -- 3D Video Player, 3D Trailer/Preview Channel, Fuji TV & Nippon TV Previews


Can't say I'm all excited, though I may go for Xevious. No mention of the browser, not that I'm in need for it at the moment (can it be used to view online 3D content, if any?). I hope there's also a better selection of 3DS Ware over here on launch. I wonder if we will see GBA games in the future.

Also, Prepaid 3DS eShop cards showing up at select Best Buy stores in US
 
I'd buy the fuck out of 3D Legend of Zelda.

Also, Super Mario Land was never, to my knowledge, a GBC title. They did release Super Mario Bros DX, however.

News of the Wii getting a Dragon Quest compilation w/ NES and SNES versions of 1, 2, and 3 make me very interested in that (please come to the US) and less excited about potential VC releases of the old GB/GBC carts.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']I'd buy the fuck out of 3D Legend of Zelda.

Also, Super Mario Land was never, to my knowledge, a GBC title. They did release Super Mario Bros DX, however.

News of the Wii getting a Dragon Quest compilation w/ NES and SNES versions of 1, 2, and 3 make me very interested in that (please come to the US) and less excited about potential VC releases of the old GB/GBC carts.[/QUOTE]
Weren't some original GB titles "enhanced" when played on a Game Boy Color? I remember Tetris had like 3-4 different color schemes that you could change by holding the d-pad while booting. Maybe that's what they mean?
 
[quote name='WhipSmartBanky']Weren't some original GB titles "enhanced" when played on a Game Boy Color? I remember Tetris had like 3-4 different color schemes that you could change by holding the d-pad while booting. Maybe that's what they mean?[/QUOTE]

In that case, wouldn't all GB games be listed at GBC? I suspect a mistake lost in translation.

[quote name='Strell']:][/QUOTE]

Well, not to far off from the end of May. At the very least we have a set date now.
 
[quote name='integralsmatic']meh just another week but of course it has to be E3 lol.[/QUOTE]

Maybe streaming of the Nintendo E3 press conference?
 
Ah shiiiiiiiit.. all the best things get delayed. Also, all the good stuff is coming in June I noticed. This May is feeling quite lonely..
 
Just beat Ghost Recon SW, next 3DS game I'll get will probably be Blaze Blue, and maybe OoT since I've never given Zelda a chance.
 
[quote name='GizmoGC']eShop is June 6th.

Star Fox has no online play.

Wow. Good job Nintendo. You might have your first failure on your hands.[/QUOTE]

So because the eShop update is delayed a week the 3DS is a failure? Wow, overreacting much? At least we have a solid date of when it's going to take place.

You people act so spoiled sometimes, I swear.
 
Yeah, I don't know why either is a big deal one way or the other.

I hate Starfox 64 though. I actually just read some article claiming it was the best in the series. Well first of all, if you count it, Starfox Adventures is 100,000x better than anything else in the series...though I think it's valid not to count it, since it's an almost completely different type of game. But I liked it more than Wind Waker, which I liked more than...well, most of the Zelda series.

But Starfox 64 IMO sucks. It sucks next to the SNES original. I mean I went back just to make sure I wasn't mis-remembering the original, but no, I like not only the gameplay FAR better, but the *GRAPHICS* even, which is messed up.

And then meanwhile, Starfox 2 *STILL* sounds like a great idea, *STILL* sounds like it's probably the best game in the series (excluding Adventures)...and just recently we find out that THE FREAKING GAMES WAS FINISHED, and Miyamoto just randomly canned it because he didn't want it to compete with the N64 or whatever. Yeah, because who wants another high end game towards the end of a system's life, showing off why you need to buy another system from this company?

WEIRD.

But anyway, a port of Adventures would have been awesome (since I sold my copy). Not sure if they could get it crammed onto the 3DS hardware, but maybe.

A remake of the ORIGINAL would have been cool, I'd buy that.

A remake of the second one would have been awesome too.

But no, they give us the absolute most crappy game in the series, complete with gameplay that's sinfully boring, when not broken, and graphics that manage to look worse than SNES' 3D (although come to think of it several 3D games on the SNES look better than the average blur-fest on the N6bore).

Hmm...this turned into an angry rant :lol:

Just annoyed they never remake/rerelease the games *I* want.

Oh well, I guess I'm getting OoT. I don't think it's aged all THAT well, and I think Wind Waker is the better game in every respect (save that it's not really as innovative), but still, I idiotically sold all my Gamecube stuff, so...

I always expected it to come out on the DS though, after Super Mario 64 did. Thought it was really weird that that seemed to successfully translate SM64, but there were virtually no other N64 to DS ports. Don't think the hardware was really as powerful, and I guess the polygon count was weirdly limited (like some sort of physical limit, aside from just having low performance), but still...
 
I'm not too upset about the eShop update being delayed. Honestly, any of us who picked a 3DS up between launch and June really sort of knew going into it that it was effectively a 'soft launch' of the system. Looking at the months ahead, it was pretty clear that May/June would be (or should've been) the true launch of the 3DS, with both the eShop functionality and Zelda rearing their heads. Again, anyone who bought a 3DS early should've known what they were getting into, especially if they spent any time on here.

Which, really, is why I find it weird that people are already claiming this system as a failure. It's underperformed, but coming on the heels of the (absolutely runaway) most successful console and handheld of the past few years, even a good-to-great launch would've seemed lacking. Plus, at the end of the day, Nintendo has wiggle room, and they won't let this thing wither on the vine. Worst case scenario, they discontinue the DS and drop the 3DS by $50-100. That's like the nuclear option, but it would effectively take care of the problem.

The non-nuclear option? Aggressive marketing campaign alongside Zelda. Commericials and print media that highlight Zelda, other upcoming games (Star Fox, Mario, MGS, RE, Mario Kart), and the eShop. This push also needs to find a way to make it abundantly clear that these experiences are *only* on the 3DS, because it's a BRAND NEW SYSTEM. In fact, and this is just a personal opinion, I'd actually back away from relying too heavily on touting the 3D capability, since there's simply no way to explain or show it effectively. They do this, I'd imagine the slow sales will begin to pick up a bit.
 
[quote name='007']I'm not too upset about the eShop update being delayed. Honestly, any of us who picked a 3DS up between launch and June really sort of knew going into it that it was effectively a 'soft launch' of the system. Looking at the months ahead, it was pretty clear that May/June would be (or should've been) the true launch of the 3DS, with both the eShop functionality and Zelda rearing their heads. Again, anyone who bought a 3DS early should've known what they were getting into, especially if they spent any time on here.[/quote]

And considering Nintendo had tons of hardware out there, and actually there's quite a bit of software, I'm 100% in support of them launching when they did.

Which, really, is why I find it weird that people are already claiming this system as a failure. It's underperformed, but coming on the heels of the (absolutely runaway) most successful console and handheld of the past few years, even a good-to-great launch would've seemed lacking. Plus, at the end of the day, Nintendo has wiggle room, and they won't let this thing wither on the vine. Worst case scenario, they discontinue the DS and drop the 3DS by $50-100. That's like the nuclear option, but it would effectively take care of the problem.

And they could drop the price to $150 tomorrow if they needed to, without losing money on it. And the DS wasn't that successful until the Lite came out. The PSP was trouncing it for the first year or two. (not that it's ended up doing badly either)

The non-nuclear option? Aggressive marketing campaign alongside Zelda. Commericials and print media that highlight Zelda, other upcoming games (Star Fox, Mario, MGS, RE, Mario Kart), and the eShop.

Hmm, looking at those, I've got to say that's really disappointing. Mario Kart is always kind of the same, and I don't like it that much. Star Fox 64 is a terrible game. Metal Gear Solid 3 was the worst one IMO. Resident Evil isn't actually Resident Evil (although a real one is coming), and could hurt the brand, if anything (along with the lame current gen version too). And Zelda is a not-100% remake of a game surely everyone's played, though at least it is very good

Now the Galaxy Team's upcoming game, the Paper Mario game, the ACTUAL Resident Evil game...that's some exciting stuff!

This push also needs to find a way to make it abundantly clear that these experiences are *only* on the 3DS, because it's a BRAND NEW SYSTEM. In fact, and this is just a personal opinion, I'd actually back away from relying too heavily on touting the 3D capability, since there's simply no way to explain or show it effectively. They do this, I'd imagine the slow sales will begin to pick up a bit.

I totally agree with both of those. I'm amazed people don't understand it's a new system (and unfortunately I've heard people in person being confused by that even with the PS2, the GBA, etc., but this is worse, probably because it's had less hype than most systems, has almost the same name, they've already released three new DS systems that ARE the same system, the boxes look almost the same, and I can sort of understand people just thinking "oh, it's a DS that does a 3D effect".

And since a lot of people (like me) don't WANT "3D", emphasizing that this is a new, more powerful system is important-they should even have SOMEWHERE in advertising that you don't even have to use the "3D".
 
they need to have a commercial where someone is playing a game and another guy goes "hold on, you're gonna want to switch to 3D for this part."

showcasing both 2D and the ability to switch to 3D.
 
[quote name='GizmoGC']eShop is June 6th.

Star Fox has no online play.

Wow. Good job Nintendo. You might have your first failure on your hands.[/QUOTE]

Virtual Boy was so bad, it didn't even count?

P.S. Star Fox Adventures was a P.O.S.
 
[quote name='Wolfpup']P.S. No it wasn't. Unless you hate great games.

Seriously, what was supposedly bad about it?[/QUOTE]
Your opinions stink. Starfox 64 was the best in the entire gorram series.
 
Starfox Adventures is my most hated game of all time. Total steaming pile of SHIT. I spent $10 on it like 8 years ago or however long it has been and I STILL feel ripped off. Eff that entire series of games. Starfox64 was OK for the time but I doubt it still holds up. The characters are awful and the game play is super basic - especially by today's standards. /endrant.
 
[quote name='Strell']:][/QUOTE]

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What are we talking about, a 1-2 week delay for the eShop?

Big deal. Given what we get on that first week, I'd like to see the Wii and DSi get such treatment. Would you rather see hella good releases every three weeks or a shitshow every Monday at 8AM EST?

(I know we won't get pickin' this good each release for eShop, but I'm just sayin' - it's not like they're releasing with a 3D Mario Clock or some Gameloft fuckware.)
 
[quote name='WhipSmartBanky']Your opinions stink. Starfox 64 was the best in the entire gorram series.[/QUOTE]

WHY? Oh god, it is such a terrible game.

[quote name='Javery']Starfox Adventures is my most hated game of all time. Total steaming pile of SHIT. I spent $10 on it like 8 years ago or however long it has been and I STILL feel ripped off. Eff that entire series of games. Starfox64 was OK for the time but I doubt it still holds up. The characters are awful and the game play is super basic - especially by today's standards. /endrant.[/QUOTE]

Well, you're half right. I don't see how you could possibly think Adventures is even an average game if you've played it. IGN game it a 9, the reviews are mostly great. WHAT about it is supposedly bad? The idea of calling that a bad game is just bizarre.
 
[quote name='Wolfpup']IGN game it a 9, the reviews are mostly great. WHAT about it is supposedly bad? The idea of calling that a bad game is just bizarre.[/QUOTE]

And Golden Eye (64) has a 96 on Metacritic. What's your point?
 
What do you mean what's my point? I'm asking how SPECIFICALLY someone can think THAT is a bad game? It was one of the highlights of last gen.
 
[quote name='Wolfpup']What do you mean what's my point? I'm asking how SPECIFICALLY someone can think THAT is a bad game? It was one of the highlights of last gen.[/QUOTE]

I don't want to get involved with half ass arguments... but.... Star Fox Adventures, while good, is not a highlight of any system. It is too copy and paste... while not being as engaging as what the source material is (i.e. Zelda). Star Fox 64 though, is awesome. It basically defined the genre when it came out. Also, it was the first N64 game with Rumble!
 
Well, at least those are points I can agree or disagree with.

Obviously I disagree. I don't think it's copy and paste at all. It's obviously inspired by Zelda, Rare's own platformers, and Starfox, but claiming it's too copy and paste would pretty much rule out ...well, most any game. Most games are heavily influenced by other games. It's also it's own thing, more so I'd argue than Starfox 64 is as a shooter, or Wind Waker is as a Zelda-esque game in fact.

And I personally think Starfox Adventures and Beyond Good and Evil were both more engaging than Zelda, with Wind Waker coming in a bit behind them, though still exceptional. I'll certainly accept opinions throwing those games in different orders, but not claims that any of those aren't of an extremely high caliber.

And what do you think Starfox 64 defined? The original defined the series, and I think plays considerably better on top of that. There were all sorts of better looking and playing games in that genre prior to Starfox 64. The Panzer Dragoon games being obvious ones, though not the only. (For that matter, it's ultimately the descendant of Sega games from the 80's, if not going further back than that.)

And rumble...yeah, it was the first N64 game with it, but I don't think the N64's implementation of that was particularly good. I don't think it was well done until Sony did it, and I still don't think all that much of the effect, though usually leave it on. I suppose you could call that innovation, but being the first at something doesn't make it good. Even on the N64, Zelda comes to mind as doing a lot more interesting things with rumble.
 
Considering how late it was in May, I had a feeling the eShop update would be delayed. Glad to know it's not much longer and that we have an official day now.
 
[quote name='Wolfpup']Well, at least those are points I can agree or disagree with.

Obviously I disagree. I don't think it's copy and paste at all. It's obviously inspired by Zelda, Rare's own platformers, and Starfox, but claiming it's too copy and paste would pretty much rule out ...well, most any game. Most games are heavily influenced by other games. It's also it's own thing, more so I'd argue than Starfox 64 is as a shooter, or Wind Waker is as a Zelda-esque game in fact.

And I personally think Starfox Adventures and Beyond Good and Evil were both more engaging than Zelda, with Wind Waker coming in a bit behind them, though still exceptional. I'll certainly accept opinions throwing those games in different orders, but not claims that any of those aren't of an extremely high caliber.

And what do you think Starfox 64 defined? The original defined the series, and I think plays considerably better on top of that. There were all sorts of better looking and playing games in that genre prior to Starfox 64. The Panzer Dragoon games being obvious ones, though not the only. (For that matter, it's ultimately the descendant of Sega games from the 80's, if not going further back than that.)

And rumble...yeah, it was the first N64 game with it, but I don't think the N64's implementation of that was particularly good. I don't think it was well done until Sony did it, and I still don't think all that much of the effect, though usually leave it on. I suppose you could call that innovation, but being the first at something doesn't make it good. Even on the N64, Zelda comes to mind as doing a lot more interesting things with rumble.[/QUOTE]

I own Panzer Dragoon Orta (The best in the series?) and I can personally tell you that I have more fun with Star Fox. I find that the Star Fox series has a great hook, and I enjoy all of them- Adventures, and Assault included. Adventures to me is more of a spin off, than a true Star Fox game, but I enjoyed it a lot. I think the controls, on the N64 were a better fit than the SNES pad, but that makes sense due to the analog stick, Z trigger, etc.

I try not to bash games, as I own most systems (including all of the current ones) and I think many game series (that are even similar... I.E. Tomb Raider and Uncharted) can co-exist. If it is a good game, I want to play it, end of story. Super Mario Sunshine, while it may be the 'worst' Mario game in 3D, is an awesome game in its own right. I think Star Fox Adventures is like that for a lot of people. I happen to really like Star Fox adventures (it is a georgeous game too!), I find it less engaging than any of the 3D Zelda games. What makes Zelda special is everything it does, is great. Controls, Music, Gameplay, Style, etc...
 
[quote name='Wolfpup']What do you mean what's my point? I'm asking how SPECIFICALLY someone can think THAT is a bad game? It was one of the highlights of last gen.[/QUOTE]

I'd say it was the 2nd biggest dissapontment on the GC after Wind Waker, what garbage they both were.
 
[quote name='utopianmachine']Considering how late it was in May, I had a feeling the eShop update would be delayed. Glad to know it's not much longer and that we have an official day now.[/QUOTE]

For me, I will not be able to use the eShop at launch anyway... I want my 3DS to be registered on Club Nintendo after the year resets. I already hit my 600, and going over it is a waste for future platinum prizes.

Having a solid date is great though!
 
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