Official 2011-2012 NBA Season thread

With a distributing PG like Lin, not a bad thing having a ton of shooters/scorers for him to dish to. Do have to worry about chemistry issues if players start bitching and moaning about not getting enough shots though I suppose.
 
[quote name='bigdaddybruce44']Ugh...Knicks looking to get JR Smith. They are gonna need two basketballs to get everyone enough shots...[/QUOTE]

If they plan to have him come off the bench like in Denver, might not be too bad. If they think he's going to start however.....
 
[quote name='docvinh']If they plan to have him come off the bench like in Denver, might not be too bad. If they think he's going to start however.....[/QUOTE]

He's coming off the bench. At least according to the local sports talk radio. I'm happy with the signing. Although, I was hoping to sign Kaman instead, assuming NOLA bought him out. I really don't want Kaman ending up with Miami.
 
I hope its just for 1 year otherwise NY really doesnt want to keep anyone do they, they need to free up all the money they can,otherwise good bye fields, see you later Fields.

Also, Orlando is not getting deron they're in no posistion to get him according to multiple articles. Dwights gone
 
[quote name='renique46']I hope its just for 1 year otherwise NY really doesnt want to keep anyone do they, they need to free up all the money they can,otherwise good bye fields, see you later Fields.

Also, Orlando is not getting deron they're in no posistion to get him according to multiple articles. Dwights gone[/QUOTE]

I think the Knicks intend to retain Fields but it will depend on what kind of offers he gets. They'll have to pay Lin a nice chunk of change this summer.
 
[quote name='bigdaddybruce44']It's too bad that Wilson Chandler decided to stick with Denver when his contract in China is up. I would have much preferred him over JR Smith.[/QUOTE]

Agreed except Chandler is a restricted free agent so Denver can match any offer he gets. They already said as much.
 
These rumors/interviews about LeBron maybe wanting to go back to Cleveland after his contract with Miami is up is weird. I'm not sure how he'd be received here in a few years especially if he ends up with no titles in Miami.

Varejao's out for 4-6 weeks, which will be a huge hole to have when none of the big men on the bench have shown any ability to be nearly as consistent and reliable as he's been this year. At least they got off to a good start with Kyrie's return from the concussion, though Indy was in a slump with their own injury problems, as well.
 
[quote name='kill3r7']Agreed except Chandler is a restricted free agent so Denver can match any offer he gets. They already said as much.[/QUOTE]

Which would have mattered if Chandler didn't say he was already going back to Denver. Go back to thinking the Melo trade was good.
 
Jr would be stupid to goto Knicks vs maybe the clips he would be just riding the tebow esque hype train at this point
 
[quote name='bigdaddybruce44']Which would have mattered if Chandler didn't say he was already going back to Denver. Go back to thinking the Melo trade was good.[/QUOTE]

So what the fuck was your point then?
 
that got a good laugh out of me, but yeah, not something a professional outlet should be writing.

they're having way too much fun in the office.
 
For at least one day, the Knicks definitely showed they can run with the NBA's best. And the Linsanity continues.

I won't harp on my dislike for Melo, but his return will unfortunately cut into the minutes of unsung heroes like Steve Novak and (gulp, can't believe I'm saying this) Jared Jeffries, more so Novak, who has been getting a ton of minutes at small forward. I hope D'Antoni can find a way to keep everyone in heavy rotation.
 
[quote name='bigdaddybruce44']For at least one day, the Knicks definitely showed they can run with the NBA's best. And the Linsanity continues.

I won't harp on my dislike for Melo, but his return will unfortunately cut into the minutes of unsung heroes like Steve Novak and (gulp, can't believe I'm saying this) Jared Jeffries, more so Novak, who has been getting a ton of minutes at small forward. I hope D'Antoni can find a way to keep everyone in heavy rotation.[/QUOTE]

It would help if D'Antoni can use more than 8 players in a regular season game
 
Yeah, well, you're right. He's got a massive hard-on for an 8-man rotation. Maybe, someone will point out that they actually have more than 8 legitimate contributors, and that he should perhaps take advantage of it.
 
Good win for the Cavs tonight to stay in contention near the end as Sacremento crapped the bed with huge penalties to give the Cavs easier opportunities to get the lead. The great stat that I heard was that they're 11-5 after a loss so far this season, which is a big improvement over last season when they were something like 14-49 after losses due to two huge losing streaks.
 
It's going to be fun watching the trainwreck Carmelo will bring to New York. Half of the success of Jeremy Lin has been the Knicks putting guys (especially Novak at the 4) on the floor who run to the three point line on the fast break and bomb away. In essence, D'Antoni has been able to run his system from Phoenix to a degree. With Melo, Stoudemire, and Chandler on the floor with Lin, who is running to the 3 PT line, drawing a big away from the basket or getting an uncontested shot over a smaller guard?

You could start Smith, but if there's only one guy running to the 3PT line it doesn't really work.
 
In all fairness to Melo (and we've seen how hard I've knocked him in this thread), he was actually working in the system last season after the trade. He hit an abnormally high percentage of 3's for him (well over 40%), and he was hitting more than 2 game, so it wasn't like a small sample size. Yeah, this year he is back to shooting around 30%, but let's see what happens now that there is gonna be someone like Lin on the floor. He may very well get back up to around 35%.
 
[quote name='Feeding the Abscess']It's going to be fun watching the trainwreck Carmelo will bring to New York. Half of the success of Jeremy Lin has been the Knicks putting guys (especially Novak at the 4) on the floor who run to the three point line on the fast break and bomb away. In essence, D'Antoni has been able to run his system from Phoenix to a degree. With Melo, Stoudemire, and Chandler on the floor with Lin, who is running to the 3 PT line, drawing a big away from the basket or getting an uncontested shot over a smaller guard?

You could start Smith, but if there's only one guy running to the 3PT line it doesn't really work.[/QUOTE]

Melo is capable of doing all the things you mentioned. Plus, he is still the Knicks' best weapon in the half court. I think the media has been unkind to him so far, but this is NYC... so as long as you win, they'll show you plenty of love. IMO, Melo will help Lin's game and they'll thrive together.
 
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[quote name='FriskyTanuki']Good win for the Cavs tonight to stay in contention near the end as Sacremento crapped the bed with huge penalties to give the Cavs easier opportunities to get the lead. The great stat that I heard was that they're 11-5 after a loss so far this season, which is a big improvement over last season when they were something like 14-49 after losses due to two huge losing streaks.[/QUOTE]
Barely hanging on. I'm expecting 9th or 10th in the east this year, but I'm impressed with how they've been playing so far. Kyrie Irving is going to be something special.
 
[quote name='MillerTime2523']Barely hanging on. I'm expecting 9th or 10th in the east this year, but I'm impressed with how they've been playing so far. Kyrie Irving is going to be something special.[/QUOTE]
They've had the time to gel and become a team this year compared to the injury-plagued and chaotic year they had last year. Varejao's sorely missed when you see how many plays Sacremento extended due to rebounds, but Kyrie and Ramon are keeping the ship moving along well enough in his absence.
 
I think Melo will fit in fine with Lin.

He'll benefit from getting kick outs for 3's, and dishes for layups off of his drives just like other players have.

And being able to run some half court sets for Melo to go iso will help cut down on Lin's turnovers some as he doesn't have to be the sole generator of offense now. They can run some plays for Melo, and have him give it back to Lin to make something happen if there's nothing there.
 
It's a really good point. Lin obviously has to learn how to take better care of the ball, but it's been tough, because he's been the sole person generating anything on offense for the Knicks. Whenever he sits, the offense looks beyond stagnant. Being to make a simple pass to Melo and let him go one-on-one will definitely help Lin as he continues to learn on the fly.
 
[quote name='perdition(troy']If I was the bulls I would take Gasol over the lump on the court known as Boozer any day of the week.[/QUOTE]

Well, I agree with that, but I don't think we're looking at a straight across trade.
 
Well right, but look. Even if it was a Boozer and CJ Watson trade, I still think the bulls will be a better team for it. I constantly hear about the depth the bulls have, but I'm sorry, depth doesn't win you championships. If we want to bring the title back to Chicago, we have to have a better starting 5.
 
[quote name='perdition(troy']Well right, but look. Even if it was a Boozer and CJ Watson trade, I still think the bulls will be a better team for it. I constantly hear about the depth the bulls have, but I'm sorry, depth doesn't win you championships. If we want to bring the title back to Chicago, we have to have a better starting 5.[/QUOTE]

The asking price for Gasol will be higher than Boozer and Watson. Think along the lines of Boozer and Deng. LA can get Scola and Martin for him. As a Knicks fan I wish we would trade A'mare for him.
 
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[quote name='perdition(troy']Well right, but look. Even if it was a Boozer and CJ Watson trade, I still think the bulls will be a better team for it. I constantly hear about the depth the bulls have, but I'm sorry, depth doesn't win you championships. If we want to bring the title back to Chicago, we have to have a better starting 5.[/QUOTE]

I agree, but I think the early rumors of Boozer and Watson are crazy, no way is L.A. taking that little for Gasol. I would rather they made a move for Howard, but who knows what's going on there.
 
This NY and MIA game is fucking good. Although Melo and Stat are hanging Lin out to dry. The guy has only been a star for 8 days you cant fully defer to yet.
 
[quote name='perdition(troy']Welcome to the big leagues Lin[/QUOTE]

Because younger players aren't supposed to have off days against a Championship favorite?
 
How the fuck did Evans win the slam dunk? He had probably the weakest dunks of the competition!

I wish the NBA would stop screwing with the format, letting fans vote is probably the worst idea since "the dunk wheel". Also, they may get more competition if there were more money up for grabs. Guys making 20 mil a year don't want to bother with winning a competition for $25k.
 
The NBA should get together with a company pimping a product, let the company put a multi-million dollar advertising contract for said product on the line, and make the dunker's do something with the product in half of their dunks. I'd be for it, I'm sure higher profile players would be willing to do it if they don't already pimp a competitors product. Makes sense to me.
 
[quote name='advanced']The NBA should get together with a company pimping a product, let the company put a multi-million dollar advertising contract for said product on the line, and make the dunker's do something with the product in half of their dunks. I'd be for it, I'm sure higher profile players would be willing to do it if they don't already pimp a competitors product. Makes sense to me.[/QUOTE]

They already did that last year with Griffin's weak ass car dunk. I've seen guys in the Gus Macker dunk over the roof of a car. That was just a large advertising ploy.
 
[quote name='Invicta 61']They already did that last year with Griffin's weak ass car dunk. I've seen guys in the Gus Macker dunk over the roof of a car. That was just a large advertising ploy.[/QUOTE]

They didn't let everybody use the product, just Blake. I'm not talking about a car either. But yeah, other than that, the same thing. That would maybe get some stars to agree to compete or at least help build stars with the advertisement blitz after.
 
I thought weak dunks last nights, I only like when evans dunked two basketball.
I'm glad my second favorite player Kevin Love won the 3 point contest.
 
fucking Scott Skiles Brooks ruined my chance to see Dirk and Nash play together for one last time.

Other than that, the All Star game was great. So much history was made with this year's game.
 
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[quote name='advanced']What did the coach of the Bucks do now? :lol:[/QUOTE]
Oops, haha. Fixed!
 
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/7...reach-golden-state-warriors-monta-ellis-trade

Magic are trying to trade for Monta Ellis as part of their effort to entice Howard to stay. Would be a great move if they could pull it off as they thing they most need is a dynamic scorer at the 2 or 3.

Looks like the Celtics are trying to trade Rondo too: http://espn.go.com/boston/nba/story...s-aggressively-trying-trade-guard-rajon-rondo



Also, another great game from Lin last night. 19 points, 13 assists, 5 boards and only 1 turnover. Novak hit 5 threes as well, so looks like they're doing a good job of keeping the guys that keyed their run involved after the return of Amare and Melo.
 
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Lakers denied trade for T-Wolves Beasley good move by us.
Kobe as a good game last night almost messed around and got a triple double, 31pt 7rbs 8ast. Sucks that T-wolves Love didn't played due to injury. Hopefully he isn't out long.
 
Because, if its one thing that the NBA definitely needs, is more expansion.

Any other news on that front, kube? Maybe a link to some news?
 
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