Official CAG Destiny Thread - Rise of Iron

Not all that unhappy over the weapon updates announced. That Thorn nerf was soooo overdue and I've not yet been blessed with a Gally so...whatever. The new BH and TLW restrictions hurt a bit, but that's not the end of the world either.

I'll be onboard with all of this if the changes make Hard Light and Suros relevant again.
 
[quote name="ajh2298" post="12811454" timestamp="1437138272"]I heard a rumor that is was supposed to be Gally this week from Xur but Bungie decided to remove it from the loot table rotation at the last minute.[/quote]
That's the rumor every week...
 
You gotta be shitting me.... I am now the "proud" owner of 3 fuck ing Teilhard War ships from FWC :roll:

Seriously game, you hate giving me shaders that much that I have 3 ships and 1 shader?  :bomb:

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Seems like the Destiny community is throwing a collective bitchy fit because the PvE crutch aka Gjallarhorn is getting a slight nerf.  Heaven forbid you actually have to work a little harder now in PvE :roll:

Same with Thorn.  That gun made average players above average because it was a 100% crutch gun.  Now PvP will be even more skill based and I love it.

The Black Hammer nerf is the only one I'm not pleased about.  The change will make it just like any other sniper just with an instant reload.  I don't understand why they couldn't just increase the clip size to 4-5 and make you hit all those shots to get the White Nail perk to work.  That and they could make the hit box for the gun smaller so there is more room for error.  Now next time Efrideets Spear is on for IB, I'm gonna have to get 3 and roll them for Solar because if they go through with the nerf on BH, it isn't worth it when Efrideets is the alternative.

 
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The nerfs to Gally and BH do annoy me... just because it's Bungie telling me I'm playing their game wrong.

Their excuse to blame dumb fuck 'ers blacklisting people who don't have Gally is absurd, especially when you consider that they won't introduce matchmaking for raids & NF (if there was MM'g, then there wouldn't so many LFG sites and you wouldn't see so many idiots saying "must have Gally").

The real motive for the nerf goes back to the same reason why they wouldn't let Xur sell it since the early days of the game...

Gjallarhorn makes things easier.  If it's easier, then you're not spending as much time on the activity.  If you're not spending as much time in the activity then Bungie can't boast about the amount of time players spend in the game.

Black Hammer became another one of those "Easy Button" weapons.  In reality, BH  was a mistake in that it should have been an exotic, not a legendary weapon. (BH+Gally combo in PvE is devastating)

In the end this is Bungie saying we don't like to see our activities beaten sooo quickly... and we hate it when you one-man this stuff.

I will say, the likelihood that Xur sells Gjallarhorn, AFTER the patch, goes up big time (.001->1%) ;)

I can live without Gally; did for most of the game.  Only really started to abuse it once they let us carry all the Heavy synth in 100 block stacks.  Prior to that, I'd only equip it for specific boss fights.  Same goes for BH since I only had one and was usually lazy about moving it around.

This is like the Skolas fix.  They said it was unfair so they reduced his health and removed burns. But the reality of it all was that they guaranteed a drawn out fight (no more 2 minute kills) and still left in more than a few cheap-shots from Skolas and the minions.

IDK, this Bungie-logic is getting old.

 
The nerfs to Gally and BH do annoy me... just because it's Bungie telling me I'm playing their game wrong.

Their excuse to blame dumb fuck 'ers blacklisting people who don't have Gally is absurd, especially when you consider that they won't introduce matchmaking for raids & NF (if there was MM'g, then there wouldn't so many LFG sites and you wouldn't see so many idiots saying "must have Gally").

The real motive for the nerf goes back to the same reason why they wouldn't let Xur sell it since the early days of the game...

Gjallarhorn makes things easier. If it's easier, then you're not spending as much time on the activity. If you're not spending as much time in the activity then Bungie can't boast about the amount of time players spend in the game.

Black Hammer became another one of those "Easy Button" weapons. In reality, BH was a mistake in that it should have been an exotic, not a legendary weapon. (BH+Gally combo in PvE is devastating)

In the end this is Bungie saying we don't like to see our activities beaten sooo quickly... and we hate it when you one-man this stuff.

I will say, the likelihood that Xur sells Gjallarhorn, AFTER the patch, goes up big time (.001->1%) ;)

I can live without Gally; did for most of the game. Only really started to abuse it once they let us carry all the Heavy synth in 100 block stacks. Prior to that, I'd only equip it for specific boss fights. Same goes for BH since I only had one and was usually lazy about moving it around.

This is like the Skolas fix. They said it was unfair so they reduced his health and removed burns. But the reality of it all was that they guaranteed a drawn out fight (no more 2 minute kills) and still left in more than a few cheap-shots from Skolas and the minions.

IDK, this Bungie-logic is getting old.
And the part that gets me is that if they want us to spend more time, give us some more fucking variety for christ sake. I've become numb doing the same old bounties day in and day out. Make a compromise of some type and give us some new weekly events for free. That would get people playing more. The original Queen's Guard event was cool. Now we only have Iron Banner grind fest to look to event wise.

I agree BH should probably have been exotic and they should have the stupid Necrochasm be legendary. It would have been gratifying to put in all the work you did for the Necro and it be towards Black Hammer. That would have been rewarding!

 
And the part that gets me is that if they want us to spend more time, give us some more fucking variety for christ sake. I've become numb doing the same old bounties day in and day out. Make a compromise of some type and give us some new weekly events for free. That would get people playing more. The original Queen's Guard event was cool. Now we only have Iron Banner grind fest to look to event wise.

I agree BH should probably have been exotic and they should have the stupid Necrochasm be legendary. It would have been gratifying to put in all the work you did for the Necro and it be towards Black Hammer. That would have been rewarding!
Wow, yes... 100% yes! While the original QW event stuck around too long, I sorely miss it now. They obviously have the blueprint to implement it again, which is why it's sooo odd that they won't bring it back. Hell, they could've left the rewards the same just because I really wanted those Queen armor pieces for my warlock and hunter.

The current Queen bounties are boring. Seems like they introduce new enemies just to take us to other areas where dead ghosts are located. If I want all the ghosts, I'll go online and use a guide. I don't need Bungie to hold my hand

And it would have been epic if they had done to Black Hammer what they did to Necro. Would have put it right up there with the weapon progression to acquire Thorn. As it is, Necro is just a checkmark on my grimoire list.

 
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Got my easiest etheric light yet.  I just hopped on quickly last night with all three characters to get the weekly Variks package and see what armor he had this week.   One of the three packages gave me an etheric light.  Then I ran one Queen's bounty to get the weekly key and that took much longer.  I decided to do the only new one (Silent Fang) even though I already had the Grimoire card for it.  That one is bizarre - I had to go to orbit and back to the grottos 2 more times because there was only ever just one there and it is a kill 3 bounty.  Anyone else have that problem?  I looked all over for more of them - went all the way into the caverns and everything.

 
Got my easiest etheric light yet. I just hopped on quickly last night with all three characters to get the weekly Variks package and see what armor he had this week. One of the three packages gave me an etheric light. Then I ran one Queen's bounty to get the weekly key and that took much longer. I decided to do the only new one (Silent Fang) even though I already had the Grimoire card for it. That one is bizarre - I had to go to orbit and back to the grottos 2 more times because there was only ever just one there and it is a kill 3 bounty. Anyone else have that problem? I looked all over for more of them - went all the way into the caverns and everything.
I had to do it the same way also. When I looked up the location on youtube the guy who made the video did to. So I think its either the way it supposed to be or Bungie had another quality control slip up and never noticed.

 
All right, now I'm getting itchy to get the Flawless Raider achievement again.  I'm looking into formally organizing something to get this before TTK comes out.  Anyone want in or have any tips for getting a dedicated group together?  I'm also part of Dads of Destiny and I just joined Federation of Fathers (thanks for the tip, LInkin), but I'm not active in either (yet). 

I figure, it'll take a couple attempts, so we'll need an agreed upon regular schedule to have at it.  Plus, I'm thinking Crota Normal is the easiest way to go and having a team of mostly 34's should be good. 

 
Been Thinking about breaking down old raid guns like fang of ir yut and praedyth's timepiece, any reason to keep these guns and others that are kinda useless now?

 
Been Thinking about breaking down old raid guns like fang of ir yut and praedyth's timepiece, any reason to keep these guns and others that are kinda useless now?
With ongoing buffs and nerfs, you never know what to expect. If you enjoy a weapon, even if it's kind of underpowered now, I say hold onto it.
 
Last night I successfully ran the lamps in CE solo on both normal and hard for the first time. I haven't tried that in a long time. Didn't get any good drops tho.
 
Last night I successfully ran the lamps in CE solo on both normal and hard for the first time. I haven't tried that in a long time. Didn't get any good drops tho.
I just ran them on hard on Friday night for my first time in a long time as well. Miss doing that, though I might be doing it more since a few of my friends need good exotics still (Gjally of course and 1 needs an IceBreaker)

Made 2 Lighthouse trips yesterday. Got 2 Scholars like I wanted but.... They were duplicates. Another Arc and another Solar. :cry:

 
All right, now I'm getting itchy to get the Flawless Raider achievement again. I'm looking into formally organizing something to get this before TTK comes out. Anyone want in or have any tips for getting a dedicated group together? I'm also part of Dads of Destiny and I just joined Federation of Fathers (thanks for the tip, LInkin), but I'm not active in either (yet).

I figure, it'll take a couple attempts, so we'll need an agreed upon regular schedule to have at it. Plus, I'm thinking Crota Normal is the easiest way to go and having a team of mostly 34's should be good.
For flawless, I suggest using these guys as they have been helping people with sessions on trueacheivements for a while now:

http://spartan1project.com/forum/index.php?topic=4699.0

They do normal Crota and cheese first 2 sections. They have all done a bunch of flawless runs so they are pretty surgical. I think it only took 25 minutes from start to finish when I ran it with them.

I think at this point there are just too few people from here playing consistently and that is your best route to get that achievement out of the way. I think I ran the raid one time since HoW came out and it was my flawless run.

Speaking of finding more people playing, are those clans you mentioned pretty active? I might have to check them out.

Also I threw a bunch of games on my gamefly queue before leaving on vacation last week and lo and behold what was waiting for me when I got home this weekend.... PS4 version of Destiny... WTF am I thinking... :beer:

 
Today is the first day in awhile that I don't have to try and squeeze some Destiny in between the time I get home from work till I pick up my son from day-camp. And I got to admit it feels pretty good not to have to. Don't get me wrong I still enjoy the game but needing to always have to find a group of randoms via destinylfg.com to run raids and PoE's gets pretty old quick.

 
For flawless, I suggest using these guys as they have been helping people with sessions on trueacheivements for a while now:

http://spartan1project.com/forum/index.php?topic=4699.0

They do normal Crota and cheese first 2 sections. They have all done a bunch of flawless runs so they are pretty surgical. I think it only took 25 minutes from start to finish when I ran it with them.

I think at this point there are just too few people from here playing consistently and that is your best route to get that achievement out of the way. I think I ran the raid one time since HoW came out and it was my flawless run.

Speaking of finding more people playing, are those clans you mentioned pretty active? I might have to check them out.

Also I threw a bunch of games on my gamefly queue before leaving on vacation last week and lo and behold what was waiting for me when I got home this weekend.... PS4 version of Destiny... WTF am I thinking... :beer:
Thanks man! I joined and posted to that page. Mighty nice of that crew to run raids to help folks.

And I'll laugh if you switch over to Destiny on PS4. Might be time for an intervention! Ha ha. At the same time, I've been thinking it'd be fun to start a new character.
 
Yeah, I can't convince myself to start up fresh on a new console.  The big drag would be re-acquiring the weapons...

though, this might be a good time to go for it, what with all the nerfs they're going to implement and the new expansion coming.

BTW, not my find but someone just posted this over on the PS thread

http://wastedondestiny.com/

you might not like what you see :whistle2:#

 
Thanks man! I joined and posted to that page. Mighty nice of that crew to run raids to help folks.

And I'll laugh if you switch over to Destiny on PS4. Might be time for an intervention! Ha ha. At the same time, I've been thinking it'd be fun to start a new character.

Yeah, I can't convince myself to start up fresh on a new console. The big drag would be re-acquiring the weapons...

though, this might be a good time to go for it, what with all the nerfs they're going to implement and the new expansion coming.

BTW, not my find but someone just posted this over on the PS thread

http://wastedondestiny.com/

you might not like what you see :whistle2:#
4 weeks, I'm surprised it is that low...

I half wanted to start the PS4 version in order to get some of the grimoire cards that I never got like the Exo and Awoken cards and some of the PS4 exclusive ones. I was hoping that somehow the grimoire would be shared between your bungie ID but no dice there. Either way, I figure I'll speed run the story and check out the exclusive content. I have never played much on the PS4 so figured it would be fun to try something familiar out there. But yea, not having the weapons will stink big time. I'm still hoping some day that they will allow you to share characters across platforms. Maybe in the future when there is no exclusive content or if they finally kill the game on last gen consoles. They would definitely sell more copies of the game if that were the case.

 
Doing weeklies and nightfalls tonight and nothing else.  I'm feeling the burn out now.  The only thing keeping me going is trying to get those goddamn Bones of Eao. 

Probably not playing anymore this week until my group(s) want to run 35 Skolas or Trials.  No extra bounties outside of doing 1 Petra to get a treasure key.  Taking most of the week off unless my buddies want to run Vault, which is still hands down the most fun endgame activity.

 
Ran the NFs last night.  Must say that rainbow burn makes almost any strike enjoyable, even if I am running it for what seems like the thousandth time...  :D/ .  Scored a Lucky Raspberry, Obsidian Mind and some purple weapon that I immediately sharded.

Scored an etheric light from the weekly Variks package so that was cool.  Ran some bounties for my key and to try to level up the last couple exotic weapons that I never bothered to max out (Universal Remote and No Land Beyond).

If anyone is going to do some PoE let me know. Would like to get my Variks rank up to 3

 
Ran the NFs last night. Must say that rainbow burn makes almost any strike enjoyable, even if I am running it for what seems like the thousandth time... :D/ . Scored a Lucky Raspberry, Obsidian Mind and some purple weapon that I immediately sharded.

Scored an etheric light from the weekly Variks package so that was cool. Ran some bounties for my key and to try to level up the last couple exotic weapons that I never bothered to max out (Universal Remote and No Land Beyond).

If anyone is going to do some PoE let me know. Would like to get my Variks rank up to 3
You fared much better than I. I got a shitty scout rifle, 10 strange coins and....
Another Mother fuck 'ing Pest Control Matrix.... :bomb: x1000

At least I got an Aegis of The Kell from my first 35. Granted it was arc... again for a primary... I really hope Trials is on Black Shield this week. I'm only getting on the rest of this week to do my last 2 35s and some Trials. Other than that, break time from Destiny. I put in Zombie Army Trilogy this morning and I'm digging it. Convinced my buddy to get it as well so less Destiny, which I am okay with!

 
I got an etheric light from Variks, too. Finally went flawless with my warlock in trials. Got a solar messenger. Better than a 3rd solar scholar. I definitely want flawless raider, also.

 
I may be late to this particular sword-bearing party, but I ran sword for the first time and got my first Crota kill by my own hands.  That felt kinda cool.  :lol:   My reward, you ask?  Why a No Lands Beyond, of course. 

 
I may be late to this particular sword-bearing party, but I ran sword for the first time and got my first Crota kill by my own hands. That felt kinda cool. :lol: My reward, you ask? Why a No Lands Beyond, of course.
Grats man! It is a very good feeling getting that first crota kill with the sword. And of course you get an amazing reward for doing so :lol:

As for me, 2 for 2 on getting guns in 35 Skolas. Got an Ark Wolves Leash and an Arc Aegis of The Kell. Hoping my last 35 for the week nets me another gun, hopefully of the void variety. :)

 
Ooh, I'd love an arc Wolves Leash. Count Sim and I in for a 35 this week. He needs to knock that out and I haven't do e one this week.
 
So I was in a group from destinylfg for VoG hard and had to leave to pick up my son right before the "Defeat Atheon" part. Now does that mean I have that checkpoint? When i look at the Destiny app on my phone I have 3 of the 4 nodes for VoG hard highlighted. Sorry if this a dumb question but I have never not finished the raid once I started it.

 
So I was in a group from destinylfg for VoG hard and had to leave to pick up my son right before the "Defeat Atheon" part. Now does that mean I have that checkpoint? When i look at the Destiny app on my phone I have 3 of the 4 nodes for VoG hard highlighted. Sorry if this a dumb question but I have never not finished the raid once I started it.
Yea you have it
 
Going to be on tonight or tomorrow night? I know you get on late for me, being PST, but I'm in to run Skolas with you if we're both on.

Still can't beat Skolas...4 freaking failed attempts. 5th time the charm right? :/
I'm down if you're both on. I haven't done in a while, and can use whichever class would help us be most successful. Thought I had to work this weekend, but may be off tomorrow,so I'll be up late. I'm Central time, though, so maybe 2am will be when I get off.

 
Despite my NAT issues, I had a good time with io and Sim last night.  knocked out a NF, 32 and 34.  I'm starting to get etheric light that I can have fun with and i started ascending a sent of Vanguard armor that I've always liked.  Good times.  This dumb game continues to be a lot of fun. 

 
Looks like Federation of Fathers is hosting a flawless raider run tonight at 9:30 EST tonight. If anyone wants in, let me know.

Update:

Woo hoo! Got flawless raider last night! Pretty easy, really. We did the trick where you get to the top of the map at the abyss/bridge. Everything else was cake. We wiped once when a guy overjumped and fell off the map at the abyss. But I can't complain because it was his first time playing Crotas End, no joke.

Now Destiny is at 100% achievements and I got Hunger of Crota to drop.
 
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Nice work getting that last achievement!  So one of the guys you were playing with got flawless on their first Crota completion?  :beer:

I think I am going to try to do some PoE runs tonight since I haven't been consistently clearing them each week.  If anyone has any left to do let me know.  should be on around 8-9pm eastern.

 
Dude, I am so happy to have that achievement.  If I'm putting this kind of time into a game, I need to 100% it. 

Our crew last night was interesting.  We had two straight up pros, two of us that I'd categorize as "really good, but not carrying a team", one more casual guy that was pretty good and the guy that got the game not too long ago.  His first time in CE was our practice run and the next time.....pop....flawless raider.  :beer: Indeed.  Dance parties ensued.  :whee:

I also saw a GH drop from the nightfall and another at Crota's end.  Made me wonder if they eased up on RNG.  I got another Truth (3rd) in addition to my Hunger of Crota.  Pretty dang productive night. 

But, I was a bit comatose at my midyear performance review this morning, lol.  Sacrifices.  They must be made for the greater good. 

 
Nice work getting that last achievement! So one of the guys you were playing with got flawless on their first Crota completion? :beer:

I think I am going to try to do some PoE runs tonight since I haven't been consistently clearing them each week. If anyone has any left to do let me know. should be on around 8-9pm eastern.
Damn, for me the last achievement is that stupid salvage one. I played a bit of that last night. I have no idea how close I am. I guess I have to log out of my profile and back in to see if it pops. Once I get that I am really toying with the idea of just being done with the game for good. It is such a time sink and the last few weeks it has stopped being fun and become more of a chore, though I did have some fun running PoE with Simo and Chubby the other day. I miss the early days of the game when the CAG crew met regularly.

Did you have to log out of your profile and back in for that for the flawless achievement Chubby? When I got it, it didn't pop until we did that, which made it kind of anticlimactic. Actually, because of that we wasted another 2 hours trying to get it again because we thought it didn't work the first time. I'm guessing from your dance party comment that you got it right away. I can't remember the last time I got an achievement right away in Destiny. I got like 7 PvP related ones all at once one time when the game kicked me from the server and I had to reconnect. And it was like 2 weeks after I did Iron Banner and should have earned them all. This wacky game...

 
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Agreed, the game is a lot more fun with the regular CAG crew. We should plan a regular gaming night each week or something.

I had to log out and back in to get it to pop. But one of the guys had it pop right away, so we knew we were good.
 
Damn, for me the last achievement is that stupid salvage one. I played a bit of that last night. I have no idea how close I am. I guess I have to log out of my profile and back in to see if it pops. Once I get that I am really toying with the idea of just being done with the game for good. It is such a time sink and the last few weeks it has stopped being fun and become more of a chore, though I did have some fun running PoE with Simo and Chubby the other day. I miss the early days of the game when the CAG crew met regularly.

Did you have to log out of your profile and back in for that for the flawless achievement Chubby? When I got it, it didn't pop until we did that, which made it kind of anticlimactic. Actually, because of that we wasted another 2 hours trying to get it again because we thought it didn't work the first time. I'm guessing from your dance party comment that you got it right away. I can't remember the last time I got an achievement right away in Destiny. I got like 7 PvP related ones all at once one time when the game kicked me from the server and I had to reconnect. And it was like 2 weeks after I did Iron Banner and should have earned them all. This wacky game...
I have only played 6 games of salvage in total so you have to be close if you have played around that many games. They say that the stat you are looking for is the deployment stat they show at the end of the game stat table. But like you said, you very well might have satisfied the requirements, but are just stuck in limbo due to the wackiness of how achievements unlock in this game.

We had that same issue when we did flawless. Didn't unlock until logging off and back on and loading back into orbit. It should be a satisfying moment when crota goes down and the achievement unlocks, but it turns into a tense waiting game as you log in and log out waiting for the game to figure out that you unlocked the achievement.

Yea, the Playstation group still seems to be going strong. Not many of us still playing daily here. Half the time I log on see nobody is playing and I end up just being too lazy to even LFG for a group. End up messing around on the laptop or ipad instead.

 
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