Official CAG Destiny Thread - Rise of Iron

OK, since I'm always looking this up myself, I'll just post it here (Skeleton Key chest rewards):

- Blighted Chalice

  Hood of Malok (Hunter Helmet)

- Cerberus VAE III

  Treads Upon Stars (Scout Rifle)

- Dust Palace

  Arc Flayer Mantle (Hunter Cloak)
  Solar Flayer Mantle (Hunter Cloak)
  Void Flayer Mantle (Hunter Cloak)
  Treads Upon Stars (Scout Rifle)

- Echo Chamber (PlayStation exclusive)

  Imago Loop (Hand Cannon)
  Theosylon Vibrissae Gauntlets (Warlock Gauntlets)

- Fallen S.A.B.E.R.

 Baron's Ambition (Machine Gun)
 Devouring Maw Helmet (Warlock Helmet)

- Sepiks Perfected (The Devil's Lair on 320)

  Devils Dawn (Sniper Rifle)
  Sepiks Deposed Bond (Warlock Bond)

- Shield Brothers

  Mau'ual's Maulers Gauntlets (Titan Gauntlets)
  Treads Upon Stars (Scout Rifle)

- The Abomination Heist (The Summoning Pits on 320)

   Devils Dawn (Sniper Rifle)
   Mongrel Ogres Grasp's (Hunter Gauntlets)

- The Shadow Thief

  Baron's Ambition (Machine Gun)
  Cloak of Taniks (Hunter Cloak)
  Does Not Bow (Assault Rifle)

- The Sunless Cell

  Dark Blade Helm (Titan Helmet)
  Dark Blade's Spite (Fusion Rifle)

- The Undying Mind

  Imago Loop (Hand Cannon)
  Mark of the Undying Mind (Titan Mark)

- The Will of Crota

  Grasp of Malok (Pulse Rifle)
  Omnigul Bond (Warlock Bond)

- The Wretched Eye

  Anathema Cannon Mark (Titan Mark)
  Devils Dawn (Sniper Rifle)
  Hood of Malok (Hunter Helmet)

- Winter's Run

  Stolen Will (Shotgun)

So I guess a blue artifact above your light level (and up to 385) is just a rare, random addition to these.  And as you can see, you have a pretty good chance of ending up with a class item if you aren't careful about which strike to use it on.  Blighted Chalice is obviously the one to do if you are looking for a helmet.

 
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I heard that the strikes with only one reward tied to the chest is the best places to use the skeleton keys to try and get an artifact. The chest always wants to give you two items so the blue high light artifact is more common on those chests.

I know I have used keys three times on the 320 Devils Lair strike and have got the bond and a blue artifact each time.
 
ajh2298 said:
I heard that the strikes with only one reward tied to the chest is the best places to use the skeleton keys to try and get an artifact. The chest always wants to give you two items so the blue high light artifact is more common on those chests.

I know I have used keys three times on the 320 Devils Lair strike and have got the bond and a blue artifact each time.
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Good call. I think I got my one artifact from the strike with only the Hunter Helm (which I also got). If I have any more keys I'll have to give it another shot as I want to level up the new artifact I picked up from Tyra (the one with active radar when zoomed in with primary).

 
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Iron Banner rank 5 seems like it will be much easier to reach from now on. People are already rank 5 before the end of the first day. The drops and the rewards for turning in the bounties are pretty decent also.
 
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Yea, sorry about those LFG guys, that is usually what you get when you go that route, but it was super late and I just wanted to get that exotic after getting that far so I tuned them out pretty quickly.  That is funny that they trash talked people for leaving considering they had absolutely no clue about anyone's skill level outside of how we translated binary and jumped.  I was 99% sure I was done after that, but those 2 definitely pushed it to 100%.  Oh well, it was a fun run and nice to not have to lfg for a squad.  As you could see, the raid is pretty accessible up until the last phase of the boss fight so you should be able to run up to the boss until you get up over 370.  The Ghost/Artifact drop after phase 1 of the boss is pretty important for those having trouble finding those pieces.

With the skeleton key I thought you were 'guaranteed' a drop of your lowest light item?  It worked that way for me when I needed my artifact bumped up the first time.  The 2nd time it gave me a heavy but my that was tied for my lowest item with my Artifact.  I'm saving my last one for now for the last phase of the Thorn quest.

I kind of don't like these changes to iron banner, since your points earned are now the same every day.  Old format let you just dabble first part of the week, do your daily bounties, then focus on the raid or any of the other modes after reset.  Now people will max level in a day or two.   oh well, I guess if the drop rates are good it will keep people playing.  

 
GLOCKGLOCK said:
Yea, sorry about those LFG guys, that is usually what you get when you go that route, but it was super late and I just wanted to get that exotic after getting that far so I tuned them out pretty quickly. That is funny that they trash talked people for leaving considering they had absolutely no clue about anyone's skill level outside of how we translated binary and jumped. I was 99% sure I was done after that, but those 2 definitely pushed it to 100%. Oh well, it was a fun run and nice to not have to lfg for a squad. As you could see, the raid is pretty accessible up until the last phase of the boss fight so you should be able to run up to the boss until you get up over 370. The Ghost/Artifact drop after phase 1 of the boss is pretty important for those having trouble finding those pieces.

With the skeleton key I thought you were 'guaranteed' a drop of your lowest light item? It worked that way for me when I needed my artifact bumped up the first time. The 2nd time it gave me a heavy but my that was tied for my lowest item with my Artifact. I'm saving my last one for now for the last phase of the Thorn quest.

I kind of don't like these changes to iron banner, since your points earned are now the same every day. Old format let you just dabble first part of the week, do your daily bounties, then focus on the raid or any of the other modes after reset. Now people will max level in a day or two. oh well, I guess if the drop rates are good it will keep people playing.
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I played five matches and got two IB gear drops, I'll probably be putting off everything (maybe even raiding) this week I think...

 
chnandler_bong said:
I played five matches and got two IB gear drops, I'll probably be putting off everything (maybe even raiding) this week I think...
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Higher light gear, I suppose?

Edit - what are people spending marks on? Any must have weapons from vendors? I usually prefer scout rifles.

 
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chnandler_bong said:
Indeed, the crawl is real. Granted I can't get enough gear to rocket to the top, but I can at least get better than LL gear and have my choice of perks. Plus, Artifacts and Ghost Shells. :)
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Artifacts and ghost shells are random drops? shoot...

Also, if anyone is not using the Destiny Item Manager extension for Chrome I highly recommend it. You can do everything you can in the app, but you can also set your character to "farm" engrams when raiding or doing other activities and it will auto manage your inventory and always leave one spot open to let you easily pick up engrams. You still have to s hard the greens but it lets you spend less time managing that stuff.

 
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Edit - what are people spending marks on? Any must have weapons from vendors? I usually prefer scout rifles.
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I hear the hand cannon from the Crucible vendor is pretty good.

GLOCKGLOCK said:
Artifacts and ghost shells are random drops? shoot...

Also, if anyone is not using the Destiny Item Manager extension for Chrome I highly recommend it. You can do everything you can in the app, but you can also set your character to "farm" engrams when raiding or doing other activities and it will auto manage your inventory and always leave one spot open to let you easily pick up engrams. You still have to s hard the greens but it lets you spend less time managing that stuff.
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I didn't know artifacts dropped - will be playing in a bit!

The item manager still needs space in the Vault to do that, though, right? I may have lost some of my Raid drops last night because my post was full (all just from the Raid - I had emptied it prior). It is really asinine that green class items end up there. I had 3 or 4 green bonds in my post. I had been deleting blues left and right to make space in my inventory but a few slots I had legendaries or exotics in and I couldn't clear space there.

As for the Raid, we'll get it done sooner or later (exotic quest and all). But yeah, it will probably take a few more runs before we can get the final boss killed. It isn't too bad except for two things: 1) Deaths can really screw things up since you need 3 firing cannons and 3 chucking bombs. 2) When half the team gets the blue goo (whatever it is called) and has to slam the boss after he teleports you have to be in position and do it quickly. Then it all changes and different people have it and you have to shift around. One little screw-up there and you can be hosed. But like you said everything up to that point we should be able to clear pretty easily especially since the new guys have seen it now.

Unfortunately I just found out I'll have to do a lot of travelling the next few weeks so I may not be around during the week and may only be home for a short time on the weekends. So I'm not sure how much I'll be able to play. Because of that, though, I want to make sure I get a lot of IB, all 3 Raids, all 3 Nightfalls, and maybe even some Trials in this week.

 
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io said:
Yeah no kidding the drops are ridiculous now. I got the shotgun on my very first match.
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I did to and it had a very decent roll only thing it sucks is it dropped at my LL.

I played 4 rounds last night got an exotic engram, shotgun, and auto rifle to drop at end of matches. Than I finished two bounties and got a pair of legs and a chest piece.

My only issue is I hate supremacy, I could never use shotguns in the crucible very well I'm more of a fusion rifle guy.
 
Yea, I got a ghost and artifact upgrade after my 2nd game last night.  Had a number of other drops as well, unfortunately didn't swap back to my high light gear in time for one of them resulting in a lower light item drop.  Really enjoying this game type as well.  Finished all the bounties for the week in 10 or so games.  Last thing I needed was primary kills for the weekly shaxx bounty plus  I'm about 75% of the way through the thorn bounty too.  

Of course after my rank ups with factions my artifact is once again my lowest item.  Guess I'll have to hope for another iron banner drop or grind court of oryx.

 
It seems that the drops in IB are mostly only 1-2 LL higher than you are, or at least that's my observation.  I think the rewards from the IB bounties are much better.

 
let's figure out a time when everyone is free to do the raid (at least up through Aksis phase 1, 2 hours should be enough) this weekend?

 
I'll be up to do the raid this weekend. I haven't played much lately though so I'm still 356. I gonna try to make it to 365+ by this weekend. 

 
I ran IB today from 9:00 am to 11:30 am and didn't win one match. I did finish all four bounties pretty quickly and got some decent LL items as rewards. I did screw up the one time and didn't max my LL out before I claimed the one bounty.
 
io said:
I hear the hand cannon from the Crucible vendor is pretty good.

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As for the Raid, we'll get it done sooner or later (exotic quest and all). But yeah, it will probably take a few more runs before we can get the final boss killed. It isn't too bad except for two things: 1) Deaths can really screw things up since you need 3 firing cannons and 3 chucking bombs. 2) When half the team gets the blue goo (whatever it is called) and has to slam the boss after he teleports you have to be in position and do it quickly. Then it all changes and different people have it and you have to shift around. One little screw-up there and you can be hosed. But like you said everything up to that point we should be able to clear pretty easily especially since the new guys have seen it now.
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Crucible sniper is another one you can check out, that is worthwhile.

The cannon-carriers & bomb-throwers can cover for each other, in case someone dies. As in... one cannon-carrier can pick up another cannon to kill a different servitor and one bomb-thrower can throw the other bombs.

Also, we learned that if you're empowered (blue goo dudes), you can still slam the boss while carrying the cannon; no need to drop the cannon before you go to slam

 
ajh2298 said:
My only issue is I hate supremacy, I could never use shotguns in the crucible very well I'm more of a fusion rifle guy.
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Hah, see I love it. It devalues sniping and encourages shotgunning which is right up my alley. But I'm getting killed by plenty of fusion rifles too, so I think they are also good for this. I remember back to my first month or so of playing Crucible, which was my first ever multiplayer shooter experience. I don't think I even bothered to use my secondary weapon at all. It took a while for me to get used to switching.

ZeroNightmare said:
Need people to play destiny with D:
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I'm on just about every night. Hell, what am I saying - I am on EVERY night (and will be at least until I have to go out of town for work in a week).

GLOCKGLOCK said:
Yea, I got a ghost and artifact upgrade after my 2nd game last night. Had a number of other drops as well, unfortunately didn't swap back to my high light gear in time for one of them resulting in a lower light item drop. Really enjoying this game type as well. Finished all the bounties for the week in 10 or so games. Last thing I needed was primary kills for the weekly shaxx bounty plus I'm about 75% of the way through the thorn bounty too.

Of course after my rank ups with factions my artifact is once again my lowest item. Guess I'll have to hope for another iron banner drop or grind court of oryx.
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I'm still looking for a ghost. I did get an artifact which went straight into that active radar one. Now I switch between that when I'm using my auto rifle and the reduced damage over time one when I use Mida (which comes with active radar itself).

I forgot I had the Thorn bounty on my Titan before I played last night. But after I finished up most of the bounties on him, I went back to start that quest and got to the Crucible portion quickly enough. How many void kills do you need? I'm thinking I won't even bother with being a bubble Titan (to get the occasional grenade kill) and will rely on my shotgun and rocket launcher. Unfortunately I don't have a good void shotgun except for a lower-level Matador I picked up last week and some older one I got last year. I'll have to infuse something into one of those before I play again. But hopefully I can get enough kills with those two things and not even need my super/grenade.

I have a hard time using anything but my trusty old Conspiracy Theory. Unfortunately it is Arc. But it seems like when I use any other shotgun I get out-ranged by other people.

I'm also with you on needing Primary kills - which will only be made worse while I try for the Thorn bounty. I think on Shaxx's bounty I'm completely done with every step except for primary kills where I'm like 19 out of 50. I had the same problem the first week too - that bounty seems really unbalanced. Like doesn't it only require you to get 20 crests or something? You can do that in one game.

gotdott said:
let's figure out a time when everyone is free to do the raid (at least up through Aksis phase 1, 2 hours should be enough) this weekend?
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Any time this weekend is bad for me prior to 10pm Pacific, but I can probably make it work. I really want to get all 3 of my runs in this week. I feel like a slacker having only done one run the first week and 1 3/4 the second week (yeah, that's all the Raiding I've done so far).

I also want to run the Nightfall - don't even know what it is. So if anyone wants to do that tonight let me know.

 
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I played two matches of IB before jumping into the raid and then quickly disbanding.  The first match I got a 375 Ghost Shell and the second match I got a 378 Artifact (which went right into the Memory of Geheleon - active radar).  Since then I've ranked up with Dead Orbit and got a 378 Ghost Shell and ranked up with Vanguard and got a 377 Ghost Shell.  I think I prayed for too much rain. :D

 
I've been watching a lot of YouTube videos on the last two parts of the raid and it's looks like it's definitely something you want to go into with friends or people you gamed with before.
 
ajh2298 said:
I've been watching a lot of YouTube videos on the last two parts of the raid and it's looks like it's definitely something you want to go into with friends or people you gamed with before.
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Yeah it certainly helps. The first part isn't too bad. Clearing the adds is easy, shooting the servitors is easy. The only issue here is that each bomb thrower needs to be accurate. They have to hit their targets (which I think in this phase are the red panels). First two rounds you just hit one each. On the third round you have to hit 2 (or is it 3?) which means that many more servitors to take down.

The trick on the second phase is the "empowered" bit. I always forget what that is called - had to look back to Frosty's post ;). You need to slam the boss immediately or you wipe. He can teleport to any of 3 locations so you have to be in position and ready. But the problem is you also need to DPS the boss at the same time. It's hard to do both. Of course the 3 un-empowered people can DPS like crazy. But they have to be careful if the empowered switches to them and know where to go (which is any spot not currently covered). So it requires a lot of communication but is not too difficult once you practice a bit.

During the initial part of phase 2, when you are killing adds and waiting for the scorch captains and then the servitors to come out, is where I had the most trouble when I was lower level though. You are getting shot by shanks and the boss if he can see you. You can hide behind pillars but then he spawns that SIVA crap which can kill you pretty quickly and if you are scoped in you can't always see it spawning behind you (and it affects an area so it can still kill you). Being higher level and taking less damage from all that is really the biggest reason to be as high light as possible for the final boss. It just gives you more margin for error.

 
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io said:
Yeah it certainly helps. The first part isn't too bad. Clearing the adds is easy, shooting the servitors is easy. The only issue here is that each bomb thrower needs to be accurate. They have to hit their targets (which I think in this phase are the red panels). First two rounds you just hit one each. On the third round you have to hit 2 (or is it 3?) which means that many more servitors to take down.

The trick on the second phase is the "empowered" bit. I always forget what that is called - had to look back to Frosty's post ;). You need to slam the boss immediately or you wipe. He can teleport to any of 3 locations so you have to be in position and ready. But the problem is you also need to DPS the boss at the same time. It's hard to do both. Of course the 3 un-empowered people can DPS like crazy. But they have to be careful if the empowered switches to them and know where to go (which is any spot not currently covered). So it requires a lot of communication but is not too difficult once you practice a bit.

During the initial part of phase 2, when you are killing adds and waiting for the scorch captains and then the servitors to come out, is where I had the most trouble when I was lower level though. You are getting shot by shanks and the boss if he can see you. You can hide behind pillars but then he spawns that SIVA crap which can kill you pretty quickly and if you are scoped in you can't always see it spawning behind you (and it affects an area so it can still kill you). Being higher level and taking less damage from all that is really the biggest reason to be as high light as possible for the final boss. It just gives you more margin for error.
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Now that we are 370-380+ it's possible to miss a stun/damage phase and still be ok

 
Yep.  I was all set to Raid at 8:30 and then run Iron Banner afterwards.  Now I'm back to doing work I need to get done.  Dammit Bungie!

 
Got my Hunter through the Raid and even got the exotic quest again.  If anyone gets the point of doing the subsequent steps and needs a Hunter let me know.

I still have 2 Raids and 3 Nightfalls to run this week.

 
io said:
Got my Hunter through the Raid and even got the exotic quest again. If anyone gets the point of doing the subsequent steps and needs a Hunter let me know.

I still have 2 Raids and 3 Nightfalls to run this week.
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The servers being down right during my prime time to play last night really set me back. I still have 3 raids, 3 nightfalls, 2 characters to IB with.... Not going to have enough time to get this all done this week. Need to at least do Raids through Aksis Phase 1, NF and Iron Banner for the rank up rewards. I'm pushing 380 with my warlock so really would like to get a raid clear in so I can at least start that quest.

I was reading online and they said that at the Aksis phase 2 fight that when you slam the boss, another empowered person can go to one of the red lit up areas (where the servitors are always going to) and you can discharge your empowerment and everyone gets full supers, which helps you dps every stun phase. Seems like the best method to cut down the amount of times you have to stun him, but that fight is awfully hectic.

 
ajh2298 said:
The streak continues 0-5 so far in IB today. All I need to do is when a match and I could be done.
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You have to have really bad luck to lose that many games in a row. Are you checking to see if you are going against full fireteams before the matches start? If so you might want to back out and search again. If you are playing with randoms it should even out eventually since the teams usually are broken up on lopsided games or mixed up each map.

I would like them to do away with the medallion system for losses. Just give 250 for a win and 100 for a loss or whatever the amount is right at the end of the match. Shouldn't make people keep playing just because of a bad mechanic like that.

If you are using 3oC for iron banner matches do you always have a chance at an exotic dropping at the end or only if you win?

 
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ajh2298 said:
The streak continues 0-5 so far in IB today. All I need to do is when a match and I could be done.
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WORD. At least, after I get one more win and go to Rank 5 I can stop carrying about winning so much. I still need the Hunter Chest Armor. :) And maybe I can claw my way to 380 in the IB.

GLOCKGLOCK said:
If you are using 3oC for iron banner matches do you always have a chance at an exotic dropping at the end or only if you win?
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Hopefully you are eligible for an exotic on losses too, because otherwise I've wasted tons of 3oC. :)

 
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Wow I suck at supremacy I will get lucky and win a game and than easily lose 10-12 games in a row always being at the bottom of my team. The games I lose aren't even close most times. At least the after match drops are decent and I'm getting exotic engram every once in awhile.
 
My team has been destroying people. First 2 days we had 2-3 losses and countless mercies. I love Supremacy for IB so much.

IO hopped in with me and my friends (not the team I've been running with) for a bit last night and we wrecked people. My friends are both really good too though.
 
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Ryuukishi said:
Do you still get more IB rep for playing later in the week? And do the IB cosmetic items still increase the rep you gain?
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Nope, but you get a buff for your alts so they gain exp faster. I probably hit rank 5 in less than 10 games on my second character (counting bounties)

 
So far I've managed to hit 371 thanks to iron banner. If I got rank up Eric's mom I'd probably be even higher with a higher level artifact. I should be very raid ready next time we run.

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