Official Gears of War 2 Discussion Thread

Are some of the achievements not even achieveable right now?

To get the submission achievement it has to be public and for some reason I can only select it on private. And I think the King of the Hill achievement is the same way.

Are we just supposed to wait for the patches for matchmaking?
 
[quote name='defmonkey05']Are some of the achievements not even achieveable right now?

To get the submission achievement it has to be public and for some reason I can only select it on private. And I think the King of the Hill achievement is the same way.

Are we just supposed to wait for the patches for matchmaking?[/QUOTE]

You have to get it on the playlist. Select your playlist and make sure it includes the game type you wanna play.
 
i connect to live then as im waiting for match making i get disconnected from live i can't join a multiplayer game is it just me?

its been like this all day
 
[quote name='GenDV138']I'm on Act 5 (Hardcore) right now, so far I've been loving the campaign and online. Cole Train's been pretty funny in Act 4/5. Hopefully, I'll finish up Act 5 tomorrow so I can start Insane. I haven't started Horde yet, so if anyone else wants to go through 1-50 sometime, send me a request/message! I'll probably be on late tonight around 1 AM Eastern.[/quote]

"You'll be running back to her saying don't let the bad men hurt me. Well fuck you! WHOOOOO!"
 
One one else having weird mic problems in random games? I can hear select people, but other guys I just see the blip light up but no voice.
 
[quote name='help1']One one else having weird mic problems in random games? I can hear select people, but other guys I just see the blip light up but no voice.[/QUOTE]

That was happening to me yesterday in matchmaking, it eventually went away.
 
Just beat the game,
felt that the giant brumack was a let down. He was defeated so easily but I did enjoy using the hammer of dawn again. Also the radio transmission at the end of the credits, do you think his father is human or a hybrid or something

I thought Cole was hilarious in his spot light moments in the campaign and Baird has a sense of humor if you read the reports he does on artifacts and such.
 
[quote name='Spybreak8']Just beat the game,
felt that the giant brumack was a let down. He was defeated so easily but I did enjoy using the hammer of dawn again. Also the radio transmission at the end of the credits, do you think his father is human or a hybrid or something

I thought Cole was hilarious in his spot light moments in the campaign and Baird has a sense of humor if you read the reports he does on artifacts and such.[/quote]

I also think the Brumack was a bit of a letdown. I was expecting another full battle with the Queen's bodyguard or even the Queen herself. Guess that will have to wait for another game.

As for Adam Phoenix, we know that he has human and locust dealings. His plan was to drown the city in water to save the locusts from the mutant locusts. Is he a good guy or a bad guy?

In Gears 1, Marcus and crew have to go back to Adam's old mansion to find the large map after they figure out their first map was a letdown. The fact that Adam has so much connection with the bad guys makes one think...

Also, what did Marcus do with his father to land him in jail for four years before Gears 1 starts?

And finally, what is the deal with the mutant locusts, I forget thier proper term.
 
[quote name='soccerstud652']
As for Adam Phoenix, we know that he has human and locust dealings. His plan was to drown the city in water to save the locusts from the mutant locusts. Is he a good guy or a bad guy?

In Gears 1, Marcus and crew have to go back to Adam's old mansion to find the large map after they figure out their first map was a letdown. The fact that Adam has so much connection with the bad guys makes one think...

And finally, what is the deal with the mutant locusts, I forget thier proper term.
[/quote]

Where or when did it say that Adam planned to drown the city to stop the mutant locusts? If anything based off what the chairman was saying in Act 5 , Adam had already proposed to the COG the idea of sinking the city to stop the locusts but rejected it cause they thought he was crazy/thought they could beat the locusts traditionally.

Again I'm not sure how finding out about the map information from the Fenix estate = him having connections with the locusts. He could have been doing the research on his own and kept it secret since the COG seemed to not trust or believe him.

The mutant locusts are called the lambient.

Also I plan on reading the GOW book that just came out , Aspho Fields , and see what backstory it fills in regarding Marcus's past , as well as maybe some info on his father.
 
[quote name='StarKnightX']
Where or when did it say that Adam planned to drown the city to stop the mutant locusts? If anything based off what the chairman was saying in Act 5 , Adam had already proposed to the COG the idea of sinking the city to stop the locusts but rejected it cause they thought he was crazy/thought they could beat the locusts traditionally.

Again I'm not sure how finding out about the map information from the Fenix estate = him having connections with the locusts. He could have been doing the research on his own and kept it secret since the COG seemed to not trust or believe him.

The mutant locusts are called the lambient.

Also I plan on reading the GOW book that just came out , Aspho Fields , and see what backstory it fills in regarding Marcus's past , as well as maybe some info on his father.[/QUOTE]

It's either the beginning of chapter 4 or 5? They find that terminal with Adam Fenix's voice recording on it talking about the Locust and the plan to flood the hollows, but I don't think they he ever mentions how that plan was rejected by the COG (I think? I may be wrong) There's also that piece of dialogue where the Queen Locust knows exactly who Adam Fenix is and mentions how Marcus is nothing like him. Then there's part after the credits where you hear Adam Fenix speak and sounding pissed off that they had sunk the city. I think you may have misheard that portion. To me it seems pretty likely that Adam Fenix has dealings with the Locust.

They're also called the lambent, no "i"
 
[quote name='A Happy Panda']
It's either the beginning of chapter 4 or 5? They find that terminal with Adam Fenix's voice recording on it talking about the Locust and the plan to flood the hollows, but I don't think they he ever mentions how that plan was rejected by the COG (I think? I may be wrong) There's also that piece of dialogue where the Queen Locust knows exactly who Adam Fenix is and mentions how Marcus is nothing like him. Then there's part after the credits where you hear Adam Fenix speak and sounding pissed off that they had sunk the city. I think you may have misheard that portion. To me it seems pretty likely that Adam Fenix has dealings with the Locust.

They're also called the lambent, no "i"[/quote]

My thoughts exactly. Thanks for the clarification. I like that the storyline has gone from relatively weak (Gears 1) to an interesting concept that will evolve in further games. The inclusion of Adam Phoenix (especially as a villan) is genious.

Plus the Maria sequence!!! I felt terrible for Dom, and I still do. I did not think Tai's death had an important role other than to signifiy the torture by the Locust. The fact that it wasn't half of what happened to Maria really made me think...

Also, as far as the Lambent go, I believe that they are Locust infected by Imulsion (resulting from the water evaporation caused by the detonation of the first lightmass bomb in Gears 1), similar to the rust lung the underground humans are infected with. This causes them to mutate / become crazy, and they fight off the normal Locust -- leading to civil war.

Edit: Does anyone see a parallel to Halo here? Marcus + Cog Army = Master Chief + Humans, Locust = Covenant, Lambent = Flood
 
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[quote name='A Happy Panda']
It's either the beginning of chapter 4 or 5? They find that terminal with Adam Fenix's voice recording on it talking about the Locust and the plan to flood the hollows, but I don't think they he ever mentions how that plan was rejected by the COG (I think? I may be wrong) There's also that piece of dialogue where the Queen Locust knows exactly who Adam Fenix is and mentions how Marcus is nothing like him. Then there's part after the credits where you hear Adam Fenix speak and sounding pissed off that they had sunk the city. I think you may have misheard that portion. To me it seems pretty likely that Adam Fenix has dealings with the Locust.

They're also called the lambent, no "i"[/quote]

I know about the recording in the locust stronghold , but I never got the impression that sinking Jacenta and flooding the hollows was intended as a means to stop the lambent. Since it's mentioned that the locusts already realize that sinking the city would flood the hollow so most likely they had planned to evacuate before that happened. Although since it was Adam talking about the plan to sink the city , the idea that sinking the city was meant to stop the lambent does make sense.

The part about the COG rejecting Adams plan was implied I believe when you get back to Jacenta and speak to the chairman. Without going back and double checking , I think he mentions something like "So he was right after all". Which would mean that most likely Adam had suggested the plan before , but I could be wrong about that.

As for the dialogue with the queen and the comm link with Adam after the credits , I don't doubt that he had some dealings with the locusts and maybe even was an ally with them. But for what means? Was he a traitor to his people? I get the impression that he was trying to make a pact with the locusts , knowing that perhaps the lambent would become a far greater threat. Maybe get the humans and locusts to align against them?

Only other thought that comes to mind is that there is something about the immulsion. Something that maybe Adam , the Queen and maybe even the Chairman knows about.
 
[quote name='soccerstud652']
My thoughts exactly. Thanks for the clarification. I like that the storyline has gone from relatively weak (Gears 1) to an interesting concept that will evolve in further games. The inclusion of Adam Phoenix (especially as a villan) is genious.

Plus the Maria sequence!!! I felt terrible for Dom, and I still do. I did not think Tai's death had an important role other than to signifiy the torture by the Locust. The fact that it wasn't half of what happened to Maria really made me think...

Also, as far as the Lambent go, I believe that they are infected by Imulsion (resulting from the water evaporation caused by the detonation of the first lightmass bomb in Gears 1), similar to the rust lung the underground humans are infected with. This causes them to mutate / become crazy, and they fight off the normal Locust -- leading to civil war.

Edit: Does anyone see a parallel to Halo here? Marcus + Cog Army = Master Chief + Humans, Locust = Covenant, Lambent = Flood[/quote]

As I just mentioned in my post above , how do we know for sure that Adam actually is a villian? Your right about the Maria and Tai sequences though.

The lambent infection couldn't have been caused by the lightmass bomb since you fought some of them in the first game. Plus that wouldn't explain what happend with the bromak at the end of the game. I think that the immulsion
might be alive or have a mind of it's own , like a virus or something
. Good point in bringing up the thing with the rust lung. I had completly forgotten about that , and kinda dissappointed that they didn't really go into much detail about what it was or where it came from.

Yeah , I kinda noticed the similarities as well. But only because of the thing with the lambent. Otherwise you could say that about any war game really.
 
[quote name='StarKnightX']
I know about the recording in the locust stronghold , but I never got the impression that sinking Jacenta and flooding the hollows was intended as a means to stop the lambent. Since it's mentioned that the locusts already realize that sinking the city would flood the hollow so most likely they had planned to evacuate before that happened. Although since it was Adam talking about the plan to sink the city , the idea that sinking the city was meant to stop the lambent does make sense.

The part about the COG rejecting Adams plan was implied I believe when you get back to Jacenta and speak to the chairman. Without going back and double checking , I think he mentions something like "So he was right after all". Which would mean that most likely Adam had suggested the plan before , but I could be wrong about that.

As for the dialogue with the queen and the comm link with Adam after the credits , I don't doubt that he had some dealings with the locusts and maybe even was an ally with them. But for what means? Was he a traitor to his people? I get the impression that he was trying to make a pact with the locusts , knowing that perhaps the lambent would become a far greater threat. Maybe get the humans and locusts to align against them?

Only other thought that comes to mind is that there is something about the immulsion. Something that maybe Adam , the Queen and maybe even the Chairman knows about.
[/quote]

See my earlier post on the Lambent. I am unsure of the "true" history of the Imulsion, but I am pretty sure some of the collectibles explain part of the history of the rust lung, which is a direct effect of the lightmass bomb.
 
[quote name='smarkbran']I am probably picking this up tomorrow or Tuesday! Anyone up for some Newb multiplayer? :lol:[/quote]

Before you go on, try out training grounds, and play some of the maps with bots, that way you know where the weapons are before people on XBOX live try to coordinate strategies around the weapon placement and you are the weakest link who has no clue where anything is.
 
[quote name='help1']Before you go on, try out training grounds, and play some of the maps with bots, that way you know where the weapons are before people on XBOX live try to coordinate strategies around the weapon placement and you are the weakest link who has no clue where anything is.[/quote]

Awesome Thanks for the advice, I didnt even know you could play with bots.
 
[quote name='soccerstud652']See my earlier post on the Lambent. I am unsure of the "true" history of the Imulsion, but I am pretty sure some of the collectibles explain part of the history of the rust lung, which is a direct effect of the lightmass bomb.[/QUOTE]

It's strongly hinted in the game that it was the lightmass bomb that has been causing the rustlung, Tai says so in the first Chapter in the hospital and yeah, there are some collectibles from doctors re-stating that notion.
 
[quote name='StarKnightX']
I know about the recording in the locust stronghold , but I never got the impression that sinking Jacenta and flooding the hollows was intended as a means to stop the lambent. Since it's mentioned that the locusts already realize that sinking the city would flood the hollow so most likely they had planned to evacuate before that happened. Although since it was Adam talking about the plan to sink the city , the idea that sinking the city was meant to stop the lambent does make sense.

The part about the COG rejecting Adams plan was implied I believe when you get back to Jacenta and speak to the chairman. Without going back and double checking , I think he mentions something like "So he was right after all". Which would mean that most likely Adam had suggested the plan before , but I could be wrong about that.

As for the dialogue with the queen and the comm link with Adam after the credits , I don't doubt that he had some dealings with the locusts and maybe even was an ally with them. But for what means? Was he a traitor to his people? I get the impression that he was trying to make a pact with the locusts , knowing that perhaps the lambent would become a far greater threat. Maybe get the humans and locusts to align against them?

Only other thought that comes to mind is that there is something about the immulsion. Something that maybe Adam , the Queen and maybe even the Chairman knows about.
[/quote]

Yea I was thinking this myself, sort of like how many RTS games are designed, 2 factions fighting it out until a third one emerges and they both have to align to fight a bigger harder enemy.
The Immulsion reminded me of super mutated zombie locust, I mean how do you stop the invading force if they die and the liquid just jumps to another body! Hopefully in the third Gears we might see some actual war scenarios with tanks/ brumacks like a Call of Duty scene.
I did feel like I was partaking in a war though and I have to say that my overall run with the campaign was much appreciated.:applause: I'm also going to grab the book.
 
Thank you. At least someone points out that this story was becoming like Halo. Thats all my friend and I said throughout the game. Not that the story wasn't awesome but still, the sp borrowed a lot from Halo
 
[quote name='soccerstud652']

Edit: Does anyone see a parallel to Halo here? Marcus + Cog Army = Master Chief + Humans, Locust = Covenant, Lambent = Flood[/quote]

Yeah, I was thinking that too. Also the whole, the enemies are having a civil war and that is the only thing that gives the humans a hope to win.
 
[quote name='darthbudge']Yeah, I was thinking that too. Also the whole, the enemies are having a civil war and that is the only thing that gives the humans a hope to win.[/quote]
Absolutely. When I was playing through the campaign with my friend we were just pointing out all the halo rip offs. Its a shame to see that its so similar. As soon as the flood type monsters came out of the tubes I was just like wtf. And then the lambent came out. I was expecting a finish the fight line at the end.
 
[quote name='darthbudge']Yeah, I was thinking that too. Also the whole, the enemies are having a civil war and that is the only thing that gives the humans a hope to win.[/quote]


Ya I saw that immediately. Abit sad they couldn't have been more inventive.
 
Halo's narrative bored me though compared to Gears. Gears had characters I can give a shit about and each with their own different personalities. I Mean Dom's story alone is leagues beyond what Halo gave me.
 
[quote name='BoneMonkey80']anyone wanna do hardcore co op with me? im in act 2 already almost to 3 add me as your GT

bonemonkey80 i will play right now if you want[/QUOTE]

I would play with you later. I'd be playing on insane though. I don't think that would matter since you can still play on Hardcore
 
[quote name='help1']Before you go on, try out training grounds, and play some of the maps with bots, that way you know where the weapons are before people on XBOX live try to coordinate strategies around the weapon placement and you are the weakest link who has no clue where anything is.[/quote]

I could use this advice too, just picked it up tonight and I'll do this, thanks man.
 
Tip for everybody, on Pavilion dont be one of those guys who runs to the Mortor and gaurds the button for the whole round. The weapon is nearly useless if you just play together as a team up top.
 
[quote name='bardockkun']Halo's narrative bored me though compared to Gears. Gears had characters I can give a shit about and each with their own different personalities. I Mean Dom's story alone is leagues beyond what Halo gave me.[/quote]


^ This.

Gears has more emotion in its soundtrack than Halo has in any medium of its franchise.
 
Can someone explain the whole story behind the sires I finished the game and I still dont understand what was the point of that level.
 
I need 4 people to help me with Horde 40-45 right now. We'll start at 37 since 40's a pain in the butt. Who'll help me?
 
[quote name='Sofa King Kool']^ This.

Gears has more emotion in its soundtrack than Halo has in any medium of its franchise.[/QUOTE]

Say what you will about the narrative of the two games, but there is no comparison in scores. Halo has, arguably, one of the best scores this generation and easily top 10 of all time. While the Gears 2 score is good, it is completely forgettable once you shut the game off.
 
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