*Official* NBA PLAYOFFS 2007 discussion

[quote name='postaboy']the heats are losers, paying shaq 5 yr 100 million. shaq should of got more touches. oh yeah, wade is so over-waded...he's nothing w/o the refs.

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thanks for your useless opinion
 
[quote name='guyver2077']nooooooo...... anyone but detroit or dallas!!![/quote]

Yessssss!!! There's no one in the east with any chance of derailing the Pistons, bwa ha ha ha. Hell, outside the Spurs (and of course those crazy Warriors) I don't think there's any team in the league that'll beat Detroit, seeing how Dallas is working on losing in the first round and Steve Nash gets torn apart every time he goes up against Billups.

Pistons vs Spurs is probably the finals.
 
:lol: look closer at the box score for the first game, mainly next to Billups' name, what do you see?

Now the second game, how much did the still injured Billups play?

Regardless the margin of victory, is what it is.

Now, the last 2 actual meetings, when both players were healthy:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=251110021
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=260402008

Not even close... Billups dominates Nash. Don't feel too bad, Billups is pretty much the only guy in the NBA that Nash has no answer for whatsoever.
 
I can't wait for the next round probable match up between PHX vs. SA. Duncan vs Amare, and seeing if SA decides to go fastbreak or half court offense.

Not really sure why people think SA are boring to watch, Timmy is Timmy, Ginobili is nothing but elbows and knees making crazy shots, parker with his floaters, and finely drinking what ever eddie jones drank late this season to find new life at the 3pt line, and the rest of the crew doesnt seem to be that much different from other teams.
 
What the hell is up with the matchups? I thought the #1 seed automatically gets the lowest seed left each round? If thats the case, and the Nets handle the Raptors, wouldn't it be Pistons/Nets and Bulls/Cavs? And same out west, wouldn't the Suns get the Warriors and the Spurs get the winner of the Rockets/Jazz series?
 
[quote name='Zenithian Legend']Don't worry Detroit will take care of Chicago for you. F*CK THE FRO![/quote]

Lmao, don't be so quick to judge when the Bulls just derailed the heat in 4.

And the couple Bulls fans who were at the heat game including myself had all the right to talk shit not saying I did but we did just sweep the heat.

Also the Bulls went 3-1 against the Pistons this year so this 2nd round might be one of the best yet. But I am praying the Bulls can take them out in 4 games.

/end rant

Anyways, go Bulls!! and warriors :)
 
[quote name='craven_fiend']What the hell is up with the matchups? I thought the #1 seed automatically gets the lowest seed left each round? If thats the case, and the Nets handle the Raptors, wouldn't it be Pistons/Nets and Bulls/Cavs? And same out west, wouldn't the Suns get the Warriors and the Spurs get the winner of the Rockets/Jazz series?[/QUOTE]

The 1 vs. 8 winner always plays the 4 vs 5 seed winner. Same with 2 vs 7 plays the winner of 3 vs 6.
 
I think Mavs are over-rated, I highly doubt they'll make it to Finals. And Heat are more over-rated. The only reason why they won last year was because of the refs, anyone denying it is a fool.

I'm betting its Spurs and Pistons again.
 
[quote name='Prepster']Lmao, don't be so quick to judge when the Bulls just derailed the heat in 4.

And the couple Bulls fans who were at the heat game including myself had all the right to talk shit not saying I did but we did just sweep the heat.

Also the Bulls went 3-1 against the Pistons this year so this 2nd round might be one of the best yet. But I am praying the Bulls can take them out in 4 games.

/end rant

AnywaAnyways, go Bulls!! and warriors :)[/QUOTE]
So the Bulls beat the number six seed, a team that rarely played with a healthy roster during the season and underperformed pretty much the whole season... Big whoop.
 
[quote name='gokou36']I think Mavs are over-rated, I highly doubt they'll make it to Finals. And Heat are more over-rated. The only reason why they won last year was because of the refs, anyone denying it is a fool.

I'mI'm betting its Spurs and Pistons again.[/QUOTE]
Sorry to double post, but... how can a team that won 67 games and has a likely MVP winner be over-rated?
 
[quote name='Prepster']Lmao, don't be so quick to judge when the Bulls just derailed the heat in 4.

And the couple Bulls fans who were at the heat game including myself had all the right to talk shit not saying I did but we did just sweep the heat.

Also the Bulls went 3-1 against the Pistons this year so this 2nd round might be one of the best yet. But I am praying the Bulls can take them out in 4 games.

/end rant

Anyways, go Bulls!! and warriors :)[/quote]


:lol: dream on, dream on. The Pistons didn't even have Billups for all those games, but look at it how you want. Chicago will be lucky to play more than another 5 games this season.
 
[quote name='sleepwalkers']Sorry to double post, but... how can a team that won 67 games and has a likely MVP winner be over-rated?[/QUOTE]


And look who's trailing? Besides, Dirk is inconsistent in playoffs.
 
[quote name='sleepwalkers']Sorry to double post, but... how can a team that won 67 games and has a likely MVP winner be over-rated?[/quote]

They became over-rated when those crazy ESPN analysts started comparing them to the Bulls team that won the second batch of 3 titles. No team, at least that I've ever seen, can compare to that team. Maybe the old Celtics or Lakers teams, but I wasn't alive for those runs.

Point being the Mavs were good, but not 90s Chicago good.
 
[quote name='Mike23']Foot, enter mouth.[/quote]

Heh, kinda rough today, eh? Poor Raptors. They did make it to the play-offs this year though, and all they really have to do is defend their home court and win 1 game in Jersey. While I never thought Toronto would win this series, they're not completely out. Don't lose faith!
 
[quote name='Prepster']Dont give up just yet, they can easily make a 30 point turnaround in the 4th...lmao. I was really pulling for the raptors to.[/quote]

I was talking about not being completely out of the series (game 5 is in Toronto, so is 7 if there is a game 7), you would think someone that thinks they know everything would've known that... :roll:
 
Charles Barkely is the worst NBA analyst. He predicts a sweep, then we win game one, bashes the W's, Game 2 we lose, he says Mavs sweep out, Game 3 we win, and what does he say? A fluke.

So the W's fans make a shit load of posters bagging on him, what does he do? Acts like a little whiny bitch.
 
[quote name='ph33r m3']Charles Barkely is the worst NBA analyst. He predicts a sweep, then we win game one, bashes the W's, Game 2 we lose, he says Mavs sweep out, Game 3 we win, and what does he say? A fluke.

So the W's fans make a shit load of posters bagging on him, what does he do? Acts like a little whiny bitch.[/quote]
Entertainment wise I love the guy. I'm surprised that Sam Cassell decided to be a co-analyst a couple of days ago considering Barkley blasted his looks. Couple of years ago, Sam Cassell was in an interview and Charles was like, "Pause the tape. Look at that guy. Is there anyone uglier in the NBA?" After Ernie and Kenny chastised him for his comments, he responded with "Don't blame me. Blame God." :lol:

Oh and I owe an apology to the Bulls fans. I thought they would barely make a dent in the playoffs due to their inexperience but I was definitely proven wrong.
 
[quote name='gokou36']And look who's trailing? Besides, Dirk is inconsistent in playoffs.[/quote]
Remind me again what that has to do with being over-rated?

Dallas looks like they're controlling the tempo of the game so far in the first quarter with a small lead... Golden State isn't playing with any sense of urgency or passion. I thought they'd be so eager and anxious they'd be too wound up, but it doesn't seem like there's any passion there. This is the Warriors time to strike, and they're not doing anything yet. They continue playing like this for the second quarter and this game could start to get out of their reach.
 
[quote name='2Fast']Yeah, I definitely don't think Sir Charles is there for insightful analysis.[/quote]

He usually gets most of it right, but he MAKES Inside the NBA worthwhile
 
[quote name='Kendro']Entertainment wise I love the guy. I'm surprised that Sam Cassell decided to be a co-analyst a couple of days ago considering Barkley blasted his looks. Couple of years ago, Sam Cassell was in an interview and Charles was like, "Pause the tape. Look at that guy. Is there anyone uglier in the NBA?" After Ernie and Kenny chastised him for his comments, he responded with "Don't blame me. Blame God." :lol:

Oh and I owe an apology to the Bulls fans. I thought they would barely make a dent in the playoffs due to their inexperience but I was definitely proven wrong.[/quote]

Well, in Charles' defense, I think Sam knows that he is indeed an alien.
 
[quote name='sleepwalkers']Sorry to double post, but... how can a team that won 67 games and has a likely MVP winner be over-rated?[/QUOTE]


Exactly why they are over-rated. A 67 win team should be dominating the first round, not trail. Don't get me wrong I like the mavs but I really doubt they'll make it to the finals this year.
 
BARON DAVIS! WHAT NOW CHUCK?

That idiot just called Golden State a "city", suck it chuck. This game is so close to being the W's.....
 
[quote name='gokou36']Exactly why they are over-rated. A 67 win team should be dominating the first round, not trail. Don't get me wrong I like the mavs but I really doubt they'll make it to the finals this year.[/quote] So you discount 67 wins because they've lost two out of three?
I understand where your coming from, but the logic doesn't make sense. The playoffs, while they technically award the "best" team, do not determine the actual best team. Rather, they award the team that's playing the best over the course of a handful of games. I mean, it does say something that Dallas is struggling, but you can't say a team that won 67 games in the regular season and has a certain MVP candidate is over-rated simply because they've lost two out of three. You can say they're over-rated by analysts who want to compare them to the Bulls team that won 70 games, but you can't say they're over-rated because they've lost 2 games in the first round.
 
[quote name='thamaster24']I didn't know Mickael Pietrus was capable of what he just did[/quote]

Trust me, this isn't the actual Pietrus, it's his contract year and he's trying to pull a Tim Thomas. He's an athletic freak his nickname in the bay is "Air France". But, he's easily the dumbest basketball player ever.

Oh yeah, bench Baby Al Harrington, he's in a slump majorly, and we don't need that in this game. Go with:

B.Diddy
J-Rich
SJax
Barnes
Beads
 
[quote name='sleepwalkers']So you discount 67 wins because they've lost two out of three?
I understand where your coming from, but the logic doesn't make sense. The playoffs, while they technically award the "best" team, do not determine the actual best team. Rather, they award the team that's playing the best over the course of a handful of games. I mean, it does say something that Dallas is struggling, but you can't say a team that won 67 games in the regular season and has a certain MVP candidate is over-rated simply because they've lost two out of three. You can say they're over-rated by analysts who want to compare them to the Bulls team that won 70 games, but you can't say they're over-rated because they've lost 2 games in the first round.[/quote]
Overrated simply means that the team is not as good as their record indicates, which could be true of the Mavs. They have the best record in the NBA yet I don't think any team in the NBA fears playing them in a series. Most analysts, gamblers, etc. would probably put the Mavs as the underdog against the Spurs (who has a worse record). Wouldn't that classify a team as being overrated?
 
[quote name='Kendro']Overrated simply means that the team is not as good as their record indicates, which could be true of the Mavs. They have the best record in the NBA yet I don't think any team in the NBA fears playing them in a series. Most analysts, gamblers, etc. would probably put the Mavs as the underdog against the Spurs (who has a worse record). Wouldn't that classify a team as being overrated?[/quote]
Yeah, you certainly have a point there, but just like the Warriors winning their last 7 out of 8 against the Mavs (or something like that), winning 67 games in the regular season isn't a fluke, especially in a strong Western Conference.

And does anyone else think the Warriors' playoff slogan is dumb as hell?
"WE BELIEVE!"
Couldn't be cheesier.
 
[quote name='sleepwalkers']Yeah, you certainly have a point there, but just like the Warriors winning their last 7 out of 8 against the Mavs (or something like that), winning 67 games in the regular season isn't a fluke, especially in a strong Western Conference.

And does anyone else think the Warriors' playoff slogan is dumb as hell?
"WE BELIEVE!"
Couldn't be cheesier.[/QUOTE]

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Believe it!
 
Dirk has got to be one of the biggest chokers of all time...I'm so frustrated watching this. The truly great players step up when they have to, and every game he just disappears. Luckily Stackhouse is playing great tonight and that block was nasty. I hope they can pull it out.
 
[quote name='bil4ltool']Dirk has got to be one of the biggest chokers of all time...I'm so frustrated watching this. The truly great players step up when they have to, and every game he just disappears. Luckily Stackhouse is playing great tonight and that block was nasty. I hope they can pull it out.[/quote]
Stackhouse always had balls and you are right, Dirk is a choker. He gets scared. Even a few years ago with Finley and Nash, Van Exel was the only Mav with balls to want and make big shots. Also, Davis is a warrior (no pun intended).

Man what a terrible inbound throw! They had 3 seconds which is more than enough for a short pass and to run the ball up the court. He didn't need to go for a Hail Mary.
 
An amazing game for the Warriors, and an amazingly bad one for the Mavs.
I'm surprised the Warriors survived all of those terrible 3's they were hoisting up there in the third and fourth quarter, though.
What a game.
 
This has been an awesome series; great basketball. I haven't been watching much basketball the past few years, but this is getting me back into it.

Also, those last two three-pointers be damned, Dirk fucking sucks.
 
Can't believe Golden State is up 3-1. They are playing amazing basketball. And what the hell is wrong with Dirk? He is struggling big time.
 
I'm pretty sure if the Mavs don't get out of the first round, Dirk won't be getting MVP. At least that is what happened to KG. That would make Nash a surefire MVP and one of the few to win it 3 times in a row (not even Michael Jordan or Magic had that honor bestowed upon them).
 
I thought the MVP votes are tallied at the end of the regular season and not the playoffs? I'd laugh my ass off if they had to give Dirk the MVP in Dallas when they aren't even playing, the crowd would probably boo him.
 
The Warriors aren't even playing that well, I mean Baron Davis is ridiculous amounts of good, but they're hitting tons of lucky shots. The Mavericks are just playing so awful that any team would look good playing them. Dirk is pissing me off so much. I guess I'll cheer for the Suns, I've been partial to Steve Nash ever since he was a Mav.
 
The MVP votes have already been tallied. It'll be nice to see them lose and then have to get the trophy awarded to him at a press conference instead of in front of the fans.
 
[quote name='DomLando']Can't believe Golden State is up 3-1. They are playing amazing basketball. And what the hell is wrong with Dirk? He is struggling big time.[/quote]

Well lessee... he shot 4/4 in the paint tonight, and 5/15 out of the paint, 2 of those 5 were the end of the game 3's.

Your answer: he's settling for jump shots and not taking it inside. Doesn't he realize that he's a 7' ft German, and the Warriors have been playing small ball the whole time? :lol:

Oh well, no matter, we'll see if Dallas has the courage to press on and win game 5 or if they just fold like they did after getting down 3-2 against Miami.

And how about the next round? Golden State vs Houston (or maybe that fucking asshole coach and his team from Utah) I don't think that giant Chinaman is gonna fair too well running up and down the court against Golden State. Alas, I'm sure San Antonio or Phoenix will finally bring the hammer down on them.
 
I was happy to see Golden State go 3-1, but it's only because the Mavs are playing terrible basketball. And even then, it was a close game.
 
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